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[StarTech]

Well I have been fully vaccinated since May and I have only two problem which existed before and no new ones. I got high blood pressure and TB (two bellies). Which everytime someone complains about me wearing a mask I say I gladly remove it if they want a dose of my TB and they don't walk to the next exit but nearly run as I pull down my mask.

Damn blood pressure nearly killed me. I was stroking out multiple times a day and I was setting the alarms off in the ICU for three days.

 

[bertsmobile1]

Once again highly emotional reporting
So what the story really was
" Obese woman refuses medical treatment that is proven to work in favour of taking any drug that might work, got lucky "
Does not quite have the same ring to it does it?
So take out madam fatso and the rest of the story was remarkably good for something coming out of FOX who have the editorial policy of "broadcast only what our viewers want to hear regardless of the truth or accuracy " Note they sacked their entire election prediction team when they correctly forecast some Bidon state wins .

But getting back to the actual story
Ivermectin has been used to treat mainly cattle for decades and while primarily used for intestinal parrasites it has been noticed to reduce the ability of some viruses to reproduce .
THE MASSIVE DANGER HERE IS THE VIRAL PACKETS THAT DO REPRODUCE WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE DANGEROUS .
The ability to reduce the reproduction of viral packets inside the cows body is where the Covid magic Bullet theory originated from .
And if you talk to a VET they will give you the complete story, my landlord is a vet and teaches as well as doing surgery and has been fully vaccinated with AZ and is trying to get a Moderna / Phizer booster right now .
Firstly ivermectin can not be used for extended periods so taking it to "Prevent Covid Infections" is not a medically sound practice & can cause severe intestional problems including ulcers & ruptures , now if you want a painful way to die, go for a ruptured intestine .
Secondly most cattle require an intestinal innoculation after treatment to restore the gut biome after treatment .
Next doseages are very weight sensitive and has been know to kill cattle if overdosed slightly
While the parrasitic effects are long lasting the anti viral effect stops the instant you stop taking the drug so like a lot of anti-biotics a full course of yet to be determined length has to be taken .
And it gives zero resistance to reinfection, so for instance if Covid is being passed around a family , nothing to stop you getting it 15 times
It also prevents the bodies own immune system building up covid resistance as would normally happen with every other viral infection because the immune system thinks that what it has done has erradicated the virus not the ivermectin thus it promotes the occurance of the asymptomatic , super spreaders .

So yes, ivermectin potentially has a place in the treatment of Covid and potentially other viral infections.
But like every medication it has side effects and if you would rather risk spending the rest of your life emptying colostomy bags the go buy a pack & swallow them.

Finally , cattle are genetically superiour to humans as genetically inferiour cattle die shortly after birth My workshop is on a cattle farm, about 1 calf dies every second year in a breeding heard of 20 - 30 depending upon the season.
As such they have a far stronger immune system than most humans do .

As for your assertion that the ( not specified ) vaccine made all of your friends seriously ill, all I can say is you & your friends must be seriously sick to start with .
I have a very large social circle being a member of 4 international motorcycle & car clubs , 10 local groups, Neighbourhood watch, Mens Shed + my 500 or so customers .
In all that group no one has sufferred any problems with being vaccinated other than a sore arm for few days , a bit of nausia for a couple of days and increased headaches.
I had no problems myself, not even a sore arm , which has me wondering if I really got the AZ lm the first place.
My pathology nurse is very ill with a lot of immune system problems, she got Phizer and had no problems and the GP I go to is a big clinic with staff of well over 200.
All fully vaccinated , including the 20 doctors, the day surgury nurses, physiotherapists & dentists .
OTOH in the 10,000 or so in the various groups 4 have been reported to have died during covid and another 20 or have residual effects rendering them unable to ride old motorcycles probably for ever, now this is not a representative cross section of the population as people who play with vintage & veteran engines, motorcycle & cars all tend to be a touch on the not particularly young side who seemed to suffer more than younger people.


I do know some people who have opted not the get vaccinated and I respect their decision as I respect your decision .
However they have to respect my decision to no longer go to their houses to repair their mowers or not to associate with them socially .

 

[longhike]

You could not pay Me 1 million $$$ to get that jab shot.

And I’m sure you fight against wearing masks too. Freedom, liberty, rights … blah blah blah.

Same arguments in the pandemic of 1918, and seatbelts. It’s human nature that there is always a small group that will be on the wrong side of history.

 

[Scrubcadet10]

Finally , cattle are genetically superiour to humans as genetically inferiour cattle die shortly after birth My workshop is on a cattle farm, about 1 calf dies every second year in a breeding heard of 20 - 30 depending upon the season.
As such they have a far stronger immune system than most humans do .

Dang... 1 calf every second year is not good. that's usually what we get here in the states with herds in 100's+
we have almost 40 total the most we've lost is two in a year, but it was non immune related, naval hernia's that could not be repaired, guts got in the body cavity=Dead.

 

[bertsmobile1]

The cattle are free range so they calf when & where they calf .
The owners try to run the heard without the bull most of the time to get calfing in sync with the available feed
They they have to contend with dogs & snakes .
No use doing a post mortem on beef cattle unless several start to die in a group.
Cows as you probably know are both stupid & curious so if for instace they stumble across a pair of brown snakes they will follow the snake around then atempt to stick their nose into it or have a lick.
A brown when threatened can produce enough venom to drop an elephant so 200 lbs of calf has no chance .
Even when we saw them doing it and being struck, the best you can do is watch them to see if they got a fatal dose.
The snake antidote is $ 1300 and a beefer pulls $ 1000 to $ 2000 at the sales yard.

Animal & human medacines are mostly the same so snake antidote is $ 1300 regardless of weather you are giving it to a person, a puppy a bull or a thorough breed .
However you have to be pragmatic about it , most dogs & cats will die regardless if they got a venemonous bite so all that happens is the owners end up with a dead pet and a vet bill around $ 2000, yet , this year to date she has treated 12 pets, 11 died & the sole survivour did not get any venom but you don't know that for a couple of days thill the pathology comes back .
And ye the same pathology labs as do people pathology
We some times forget that we are really nothing more than another animal on the planet and when it comes to medacine we are just another animal.
And here in come the problem with using animal medications on people and in particular stock medacines on people.
When a cow gets a dose of ivermectin, it is usually done in their paddock or at best an isolation paddock and the farmer dose little other than watch to see if the cow feeds normally.
It does not get checked for migrain headaches, elevated temperatures , nausea , aches, pins , stomach cramps, dehydration and all the other side effects that a human can be told to monitor themselves for , As such the emperical evidence as to weather the medication is safe is nothing more than did the cow recover and how long did it take .
Even worse is damage to internal organs is never detected on cows because they go off to slaughter in 12 to 24 months and the entrails get frozen then sent off to pet food makers .
No one does a detailed autopsy on livers, kidneys , hearts , brains or intestines so there is almost no knowledge about the long term damage because the cows don't live much past puberty let alone to a ripe old age by which time the damage done by the ivermectin ( if any ) would manifest itself .

Heard animals hide illnesses because if the heard works out one of them sick, they will hunt that animal off out of the heard for fear of sick animal drawing in predators .

There is a lot more information about the side effects of ivermectin on horses than there is on cattle but there is not that much as usually Ivermectin would not be used on horses as most horses are far more valuable so get better health care , particularly if they are race horses so a broad spectrum anti parasitic medication would not normally get used on a horse in favour of a less agressive medication specific to the actual parasite infestation.

To date there has only been 3 reports of people being hospitalised from Ivermectin overdose down here 2 of them died and the third one is still in ICU for what would be around 3 weeks now .

 

[Scrubcadet10]

Cows as you probably know are both stupid & curious so if for instace they stumble across a pair of brown snakes they will follow the snake around then atempt to stick their nose into it or have a lick.

No truer words have been spoken.....

 

[bertsmobile1]

There is a slf seeded fig growing in the middle of one of the paddocks
The entire hear will come around when lrt in and stare at it for a good 1/4 hour then one will front up and grab a leaf from the front, chew it a few times then spit it out .
Then it will walk to the side , pull another leaf, chew it a few times then spit it out .
This process gets repeated usually 4 times then it decides it does not like fig leaves and walks away .
Then the next cow will front up & do the exact same thing
Then the next cow & so on until either the whole heard have all had a chew or the tree runs out of leaves

 

[fixit1ddh]

And I’m sure you fight against wearing masks too. Freedom, liberty, rights … blah blah blah.

Same arguments in the pandemic of 1918, and seatbelts. It’s human nature that there is always a small group that will be on the wrong side of history.

Nope nothing to do with freedoms. Has to do totally with the jab is not safe. As I was saying You jab people will start dropping like flies getting hit by fly spray. I seen a report today that more people that got the jab is filling hospital's over the 50% then not. If I do not wear a mask it has to do with My age I'm old. And having COPD & ASTHMA. Did any of you people hear jan the by done Whitehouse spokesperson. Say about covid as a (plandemic)
You people watch to much mainstream media. And not doing enough of your own research. I'm retired and all I have is time to research. To this day I still know no one personally that has died of covid. But lots of Family & Friends have died of cancer.

 

[longhike]

To this day I still know no one personally that has died of covid.

I do.

…. with zero pre-existing issues, they were not vaccinated.

 

[MParr]

Pass the horse wormer! I don’t care.
Wear a mask. I don’t care.
Don’t wear a mask. I don’t care.
Get the jab. I don’t care.
Keep your hands washed.
Stay at home when sick.
Keep your sick kids at home when sick.
Last: Get off of my lawn!