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#1
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hlw49
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hlw49
Today is a sad day for the state of TN and talk radio. Today renowned talk show radio host Phil Valentine passed away of the Covid19 virus. Phil hosted the Phil Valentine show on Super Talk 99.7 WTN for many years. He was my ride home from work every working day. He will be missed. May God bless his family as they move forward and heal from their loss.
#2
StarTech
StarTech
He wasn't as invincible as he thought. No one should tempt faith. I learned a long time ago to heed warnings.
What is more sad is the 10 people that just die in severe flooding in TN near Nashville. They too didn't heed the warnings.
Although I didn't know any of these 11 folks it is sad to here of their deaths from being hardheaded.
The old adage is still true. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound cure."
What is more sad is the 10 people that just die in severe flooding in TN near Nashville. They too didn't heed the warnings.
Although I didn't know any of these 11 folks it is sad to here of their deaths from being hardheaded.
The old adage is still true. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound cure."
#3
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slomo
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slomo
Was the radio guy vaccinated?
Or was he one of those Democrats that think covid is a political joke slash scam?
Or was he one of those Democrats that think covid is a political joke slash scam?
#4
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
No untimely death is a good thing but one wonders just how many of his devoted listeners took his previous advice & did not get vaccinated then died before him because they looked up to him & trusted him .
IT is the one thing that really urks me about President Trump's continued anti-vaccine , anti- face mask & anti quarrentine stance.
He got fully vaccinated himself then had the best healthcare available to any person on the planet yet he wants others to take unnecessary risks with their life .
As for floods in TN & fires in Greece ( or OZ last season for that matter ) way back in the 70's when I was in college scientists were warning & predicting that global warming could drive substantially more sever weather extremes but they got ignored.
Then vested interests turned climate change into a left - right political idology debate .
Well now it is here and note every flood suddenly has become the biggest ever recorded in that particular region , every drought is the most sever ever recorded for that region.
Hotter hot days & colder cold days which whips up a lot stronger winds .
And the worst is yet to come
IT is the one thing that really urks me about President Trump's continued anti-vaccine , anti- face mask & anti quarrentine stance.
He got fully vaccinated himself then had the best healthcare available to any person on the planet yet he wants others to take unnecessary risks with their life .
As for floods in TN & fires in Greece ( or OZ last season for that matter ) way back in the 70's when I was in college scientists were warning & predicting that global warming could drive substantially more sever weather extremes but they got ignored.
Then vested interests turned climate change into a left - right political idology debate .
Well now it is here and note every flood suddenly has become the biggest ever recorded in that particular region , every drought is the most sever ever recorded for that region.
Hotter hot days & colder cold days which whips up a lot stronger winds .
And the worst is yet to come
#5
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slomo
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slomo
Trump was the pres. He didn't want to scare, alarm or freak out the public. He did say masks and the vaccine work. He knows they all work as he gets the best briefing from top so called experts daily. Every word he said or tweet he did, someone freaked out. And the Democraps were first to attack him on his every word.
Politics aside, Trump did more for the American PEOPLE than I've ever seen. Low gas prices, border wall, stock market boomed and many more.
And our current pres "Sleepy" Joe Biden. What has he done for us? LOL Okay I DO like one thing the man has done. Pull the troops out of Afghanistan. Although he screwed it all up by removing the troops before the civilians. Step in the right direction. Next I hope he pulls out of Korea and Vietnam. What the heck are we still over there for?
Politics aside, Trump did more for the American PEOPLE than I've ever seen. Low gas prices, border wall, stock market boomed and many more.
And our current pres "Sleepy" Joe Biden. What has he done for us? LOL Okay I DO like one thing the man has done. Pull the troops out of Afghanistan. Although he screwed it all up by removing the troops before the civilians. Step in the right direction. Next I hope he pulls out of Korea and Vietnam. What the heck are we still over there for?
#6
StarTech
And here in Tennessee like Alabama most of the population associate with the Republican party. Personally I am a true independent voter, I don't vote along party lines just because I don't associate with any particular party. I do my research and vote whomever I think can do the best job.
But I can honestly says that the Republicans have made it hard for me to vote for their candidates with all the lies being told. Its just like a bunch brats fighting over a cookie. Right now I would rather vote for a rattlesnake instead of any of political candidates. At least I know what it going to do.
As for the US civilians in Afghanistan they should of had their backsides out a long time ago. They knew we were pulling out a long time before it happen fully. There is nothing like being stupid by voluntarily living in a war zone. That was their choice and now they want us to save their backsides because their stupidity.
It just like someone that has a tornado, hurricane, fire, or flood barrelling down on them that waits to the very last second to try to get to safety. They know it coming but refuse to move until it is too late.
StarTech
No he wasn't vaccinated. He once said he had less than a 1% of getting the virus.Was the radio guy vaccinated?
Or was he one of those Democrats that think covid is a political joke slash scam?
And here in Tennessee like Alabama most of the population associate with the Republican party. Personally I am a true independent voter, I don't vote along party lines just because I don't associate with any particular party. I do my research and vote whomever I think can do the best job.
But I can honestly says that the Republicans have made it hard for me to vote for their candidates with all the lies being told. Its just like a bunch brats fighting over a cookie. Right now I would rather vote for a rattlesnake instead of any of political candidates. At least I know what it going to do.
As for the US civilians in Afghanistan they should of had their backsides out a long time ago. They knew we were pulling out a long time before it happen fully. There is nothing like being stupid by voluntarily living in a war zone. That was their choice and now they want us to save their backsides because their stupidity.
It just like someone that has a tornado, hurricane, fire, or flood barrelling down on them that waits to the very last second to try to get to safety. They know it coming but refuse to move until it is too late.
#7
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
Trump got vaccinated, he also recommended you get the vaccine, but does not believe in mandating it. Personal Liberty. live with the choices you make.IT is the one thing that really urks me about President Trump's continued anti-vaccine , anti- face mask & anti quarrentine stance.
#8
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hlw49
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hlw49
No none of the aboveWas the radio guy vaccinated?
Or was he one of those Democrats that think covid is a political joke slash scam?
#9
StarTech
One thing we got to remember we all have been dying from very day we were conceived. And the very next second of life is not promised. But we all can do things that don't hasten death.
Sometimes we got to give a little to get a lot in return. It like the research I do for my business. It cost time and money now but later it more than pays for itself. I just replaced a connector housing on a JD 445 that JD want to just wanted to sell me the complete wiring harness but I did the research last year on the same connector housing and I actually had it in stock. $2.12 connector housing (customer cost) vs a $150 harness. All thanks to researching a Yanmar wiring harness connectors.
StarTech
Or die with the choices you make. It can go both ways. It just like with the kids some parents rather take a good chance that their kids will get the virus and die then try to sue the system for not doing more.Trump got vaccinated, he also recommended you get the vaccine, but does not believe in mandating it. Personal Liberty. live with the choices you make.
One thing we got to remember we all have been dying from very day we were conceived. And the very next second of life is not promised. But we all can do things that don't hasten death.
Sometimes we got to give a little to get a lot in return. It like the research I do for my business. It cost time and money now but later it more than pays for itself. I just replaced a connector housing on a JD 445 that JD want to just wanted to sell me the complete wiring harness but I did the research last year on the same connector housing and I actually had it in stock. $2.12 connector housing (customer cost) vs a $150 harness. All thanks to researching a Yanmar wiring harness connectors.
#10
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
Afghanistan was a mistake from start to finish
No foreign power has been able to rule Afghanistan for the past 300 years .
While the timing may have not been particularly sound , what happened was going to happen eventually.
The other alternative was to continue to provide air support for the regular army indefinately till every man & woman of serving age was killed .
What escapes most news rooms is that the Afghan regularly army has been loosing 14,000 soldiers a year for the past 5 years when the US ( and OZ ) pulled out regular ground troops.
Without the air support the regulars knew they would be killed before long.
Remember the Talibahn honestly believe that they are doing their Gods work , most of their troops are peasant farmers with nothing to loose , largely uneducated except for what they were taught in the mosques and in the case of the Pashtuns displaced from what they believe was the land God gave them .
And for the benefit of Slomo. it was actually President Trump who made the deal with the Talibahn all President Biden did was to do what president Trump had already committed the USA to do .
No foreign power has been able to rule Afghanistan for the past 300 years .
While the timing may have not been particularly sound , what happened was going to happen eventually.
The other alternative was to continue to provide air support for the regular army indefinately till every man & woman of serving age was killed .
What escapes most news rooms is that the Afghan regularly army has been loosing 14,000 soldiers a year for the past 5 years when the US ( and OZ ) pulled out regular ground troops.
Without the air support the regulars knew they would be killed before long.
Remember the Talibahn honestly believe that they are doing their Gods work , most of their troops are peasant farmers with nothing to loose , largely uneducated except for what they were taught in the mosques and in the case of the Pashtuns displaced from what they believe was the land God gave them .
And for the benefit of Slomo. it was actually President Trump who made the deal with the Talibahn all President Biden did was to do what president Trump had already committed the USA to do .
#11
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
Should have at least gotten the U.S. citizens out before you pull out U.S. Troops.
I read the Afghan military *had* 186,000 active "troops".... while "experts" figure close to 80,000 taliban troops in afghanistan, total.
With the help of an online calculator, that comes to 93 Afghan troops for every 4 taliban fighters...
I read the Afghan military *had* 186,000 active "troops".... while "experts" figure close to 80,000 taliban troops in afghanistan, total.
With the help of an online calculator, that comes to 93 Afghan troops for every 4 taliban fighters...
#12
StarTech
StarTech
First you may have misplace a decimal as I come up 9.3 to 4 or 2.325 to 1 with the figures you gave.
The problem Scrub was those US citizens were among some the most stubborn ones when came to having to leave until was so late. They are like Trump supporters that will not consider anything other what their leader says even if it is proven wrong. Everyone got to willing to reason or things like this happens.
As for the number of Afghans troops vs the Taliban troops. It appears most of the Afghan troops were just in it for the money and not willing put their lives on the line when needed where the Taliban were willing to put their lives on the line for their cause. The Afghans were well armed but just wasn't willing to fight for their side. If the all Afghans civilians would just stand up to Taliban things could be different but they got to be willing to die for their cause too.
The problem was and is still is the Afghans wants others to do their fighting for them while they sit back reap the benefits.
One good thing might come of this is that we have to go back in we will know the equipment we up against as it is our own so we know its weaknesses and strong points. And we probably will have go back in.
The problem Scrub was those US citizens were among some the most stubborn ones when came to having to leave until was so late. They are like Trump supporters that will not consider anything other what their leader says even if it is proven wrong. Everyone got to willing to reason or things like this happens.
As for the number of Afghans troops vs the Taliban troops. It appears most of the Afghan troops were just in it for the money and not willing put their lives on the line when needed where the Taliban were willing to put their lives on the line for their cause. The Afghans were well armed but just wasn't willing to fight for their side. If the all Afghans civilians would just stand up to Taliban things could be different but they got to be willing to die for their cause too.
The problem was and is still is the Afghans wants others to do their fighting for them while they sit back reap the benefits.
One good thing might come of this is that we have to go back in we will know the equipment we up against as it is our own so we know its weaknesses and strong points. And we probably will have go back in.
#13
StarTech
StarTech
And think the Tennessee flooding death toll is climbing.
#14
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
Yes but it is not a case of forming 2 strait lines on the field of honour and charging towards each other to the beat of the drummer.
Afghanistan is a big place with lots of steep mountain passes very little in the way of safe fast high traffic volume roads and no railway .
Most of those troops were stationed around Kabul and presidential palaces .
And as said before without the air support the regulars were sitting ducks
Add to that the regulars had everything to live for while the Taliban had everything to die for .
The West ( and that includes OZ ) should have been training helicoper & air to ground fighter pilots and supplying aircraft.
No shortage of obsolete aircraft but helicopters area bit tricky to fly due to the thinner air and massive thermals .
The government was even more corrupt than the Shar of Iran's administration so there was little public faith in it .
And add to that the very strong tribalism of the local warlords who never really were part of the government .
The Afghan's by and large do not see themselves as Afghan's rather they identify with their local tribal cultures so the country was never really united. There are better than 100 tribal groupings speaking around 60 different languages.
It is exactly the same situation as in Arabia , Iraqe , Iran , Syria etc etc etc peoples who do not see themselves as a nation being told by others that they are now a country.
And remember the Taliban came from the Mujahideen who successfully tossed out the Russians and before the West armed them with modern weapons they were quite successful against the British using hand made rifles with black powder & shot , not much more soficticated then the weaponary of the civil war .
The population by and large resented the government & the US troops that supported them which is most evident by the prevelance of IED's .
The locals would have seen them being laid so were either too scared to do anything about it or supported the actions .
For the people living a few miles from the capital cities, nothing had changed.
They had been promised a new modern Afghanistan but 5 miles from most capital cities, no roads, no water , no sewerage , no electricity , no phones , no police , no courts, no garbage collection, no schools , no medical care & no jobs apart from being in the army.
The western troops came in & burned the opium crops then told the farmers to grow food , but failed to protect the said same farmers who had been paid up front by the Taliban ( & others ) to grow opium .
IT is a mess and will probably go the same way as it did with the last Taliban government where as soon as the Russians left started fighting between each other because
" the enemy of my enemy is my friend so long as my enemy remains their enemy ".
The old disputes between Afghanistan & Pakistan will start to flare up again because like Turkey & the Kurds, the border cuts a 1/3 off the Pashtun homeland & the Pashtun's see themselves as Pashtun's , not Pakistani's or Afghans they speak their own language and practice a pre modern Islam called Pashtunwali .
So once the US is gone they will start to form seperatist movements from Pakistan probably aided by the Indians .
As an aside the word khaki comes from Pashtun which means "of the earth" and the British army officially changed from their red coats to khaki drab during their occupation of Afghanistan
because the tribal warriours had no problem seeing them & shooting the commanding officers who could easily be distinguished from the general troops .
Afghanistan is a big place with lots of steep mountain passes very little in the way of safe fast high traffic volume roads and no railway .
Most of those troops were stationed around Kabul and presidential palaces .
And as said before without the air support the regulars were sitting ducks
Add to that the regulars had everything to live for while the Taliban had everything to die for .
The West ( and that includes OZ ) should have been training helicoper & air to ground fighter pilots and supplying aircraft.
No shortage of obsolete aircraft but helicopters area bit tricky to fly due to the thinner air and massive thermals .
The government was even more corrupt than the Shar of Iran's administration so there was little public faith in it .
And add to that the very strong tribalism of the local warlords who never really were part of the government .
The Afghan's by and large do not see themselves as Afghan's rather they identify with their local tribal cultures so the country was never really united. There are better than 100 tribal groupings speaking around 60 different languages.
It is exactly the same situation as in Arabia , Iraqe , Iran , Syria etc etc etc peoples who do not see themselves as a nation being told by others that they are now a country.
And remember the Taliban came from the Mujahideen who successfully tossed out the Russians and before the West armed them with modern weapons they were quite successful against the British using hand made rifles with black powder & shot , not much more soficticated then the weaponary of the civil war .
The population by and large resented the government & the US troops that supported them which is most evident by the prevelance of IED's .
The locals would have seen them being laid so were either too scared to do anything about it or supported the actions .
For the people living a few miles from the capital cities, nothing had changed.
They had been promised a new modern Afghanistan but 5 miles from most capital cities, no roads, no water , no sewerage , no electricity , no phones , no police , no courts, no garbage collection, no schools , no medical care & no jobs apart from being in the army.
The western troops came in & burned the opium crops then told the farmers to grow food , but failed to protect the said same farmers who had been paid up front by the Taliban ( & others ) to grow opium .
IT is a mess and will probably go the same way as it did with the last Taliban government where as soon as the Russians left started fighting between each other because
" the enemy of my enemy is my friend so long as my enemy remains their enemy ".
The old disputes between Afghanistan & Pakistan will start to flare up again because like Turkey & the Kurds, the border cuts a 1/3 off the Pashtun homeland & the Pashtun's see themselves as Pashtun's , not Pakistani's or Afghans they speak their own language and practice a pre modern Islam called Pashtunwali .
So once the US is gone they will start to form seperatist movements from Pakistan probably aided by the Indians .
As an aside the word khaki comes from Pashtun which means "of the earth" and the British army officially changed from their red coats to khaki drab during their occupation of Afghanistan
because the tribal warriours had no problem seeing them & shooting the commanding officers who could easily be distinguished from the general troops .
#15
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hlw49
And what would those lies be. Do you like the higher gas prices, taxes, higher food prices and inflation the Biden administration has bestowed upon. Oh yes and all the thousands of job he destroyed by shutting do the Keystone Pipeline. Not to mention the debacle at the border. They want to mask us and shoot us up again and do nothing about the illegals at the border bringing this virus in on us and Biden is spreading it all over the country by shipping illegals' all over the country. Not even telling the governors about. Governor Lee told Biden he did not want them but we got then anyway shipped in here in the dark of the night. I will take Trump and his MAGA agenda any day.
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hlw49
But I can honestly says that the Republicans have made it hard for me to vote for their candidates with all the lies being told. Its just like a bunch brats fighting over a cookie. Right now I would rather vote for a rattlesnake instead of any of political candidates. At least I know what it going to do.No he wasn't vaccinated. He once said he had less than a 1% of getting the virus.
And here in Tennessee like Alabama most of the population associate with the Republican party. Personally I am a true independent voter, I don't vote along party lines just because I don't associate with any particular party. I do my research and vote whomever I think can do the best job.
But I can honestly says that the Republicans have made it hard for me to vote for their candidates with all the lies being told. Its just like a bunch brats fighting over a cookie. Right now I would rather vote for a rattlesnake instead of any of political candidates. At least I know what it going to do.
As for the US civilians in Afghanistan they should of had their backsides out a long time ago. They knew we were pulling out a long time before it happen fully. There is nothing like being stupid by voluntarily living in a war zone. That was their choice and now they want us to save their backsides because their stupidity.
It just like someone that has a tornado, hurricane, fire, or flood barrelling down on them that waits to the very last second to try to get to safety. They know it coming but refuse to move until it is too late.
And what would those lies be. Do you like the higher gas prices, taxes, higher food prices and inflation the Biden administration has bestowed upon. Oh yes and all the thousands of job he destroyed by shutting do the Keystone Pipeline. Not to mention the debacle at the border. They want to mask us and shoot us up again and do nothing about the illegals at the border bringing this virus in on us and Biden is spreading it all over the country by shipping illegals' all over the country. Not even telling the governors about. Governor Lee told Biden he did not want them but we got then anyway shipped in here in the dark of the night. I will take Trump and his MAGA agenda any day.
#16
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
I miss filling up shop gas cans for less than $2.50 a gallon.But I can honestly says that the Republicans have made it hard for me to vote for their candidates with all the lies being told. Its just like a bunch brats fighting over a cookie. Right now I would rather vote for a rattlesnake instead of any of political candidates. At least I know what it going to do.
And what would those lies be. Do you like the higher gas prices, taxes, higher food prices and inflation the Biden administration has bestowed upon. Oh yes and all the thousands of job he destroyed by shutting do the Keystone Pipeline. Not to mention the debacle at the border. They want to mask us and shoot us up again and do nothing about the illegals at the border bringing this virus in on us and Biden is spreading it all over the country by shipping illegals' all over the country. Not even telling the governors about. Governor Lee told Biden he did not want them but we got then anyway shipped in here in the dark of the night. I will take Trump and his MAGA agenda any day.
#18
StarTech
And I haven't even seen the $1400 check either. They said file your 1040 and you get what is owed. Like Heck you will. I should have never invested the promised money in new stock for my business. Never will I trust the word of a politician ever again. Well they probably going to bitch like heck when I file the 1040 this coming year and don't send in a payment.
And as for gas prices I drove by a Fayetteville Shell station here that had 0.009 gas today. I wish I had my camera with me. Can't get much lower than a penny a gallon.
And that death toll is now 21.
StarTech
Two of them was the $1200 and $600 checks that Trump and the Republicans promised that I have yet to see. And another one where Trump had illegals working for him but claiming he didn't until he got caught.And what would those lies be.
And I haven't even seen the $1400 check either. They said file your 1040 and you get what is owed. Like Heck you will. I should have never invested the promised money in new stock for my business. Never will I trust the word of a politician ever again. Well they probably going to bitch like heck when I file the 1040 this coming year and don't send in a payment.
And as for gas prices I drove by a Fayetteville Shell station here that had 0.009 gas today. I wish I had my camera with me. Can't get much lower than a penny a gallon.
And that death toll is now 21.
#19
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hlw49
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hlw49
You must have been a really bad boy I got mine. Please verify the gas prices so we all can see them I think something like that would make national news if not at least state news. What state are you in Tn. or NC.
#20
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hlw49
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hlw49
Victorina Morales, Morales, who reportedly crossed the American border illegally in 1999, she didn’t have proper documentation, and she used false Social Security and permanent resident cards.
#21
StarTech
Well I didn't fall the 0.009 gimmick that the local radio station was doing at the station. I not that stupid. My time is more important to me. Like the $100 welding job did yesterday. I charged $75 but got a $25 tip. So I made the bill $100 for the rush job so the gentleman could write it off his taxes. That not my largest tip either as I got over $100 tip last year on a $200 job.
Though I can get gas free gas with my Mapco Rewards but I don't punish the local station. I did however take them up on the 0.15 off a gallon yesterday and I filled up with a little over 21.67 gallons @ 2.469 / gal. And last month I got $1.00 off a gallon @ Kroger when I got 25 gallons as I had 1000 pts to use. If I remember correctly that made the fuel 1.649 /gallon. And with Delta slowing things down again gas will probably be back under $2 soon. Really a large portion the fuel prices is taxes always so it can only get so low and then oil companies will just cut back production to keep the prices up.
And I know how to manage things. It like yesterday where I got 9 lbs of 80/20 hamburger for 1.66/lb when then the normal price lately is 4.97/lb. And I also got bone in chicken breast for 0.88 /lb when the regular price is 1.99 /lb. I actually save 38% on my total bill too so I could afford those all beef wieners. Plus I didn't pay the 9.75% sales tax either.
And yes meat prices here has gone through the roof like $11.99 for ribeye steaks through I got about 8lbs recently for 6.99 lb. Or that T-bone I seen last week for $22/lb.What a shame since I got T-bones once last year for 3.99/lb. I had a large cookout that time for my customers. Even the salad kits I buy jumped over 0.50 per package since a week ago. They just got passed up besides the diet didn't seem to be working. I will just go get some watercress instead locally. It about a 4 mile hike so that will burn off a few calories.
Most employers will just look the other way even when they know something is illegal until caught. They will lie through their teeth too when caught blaming it on the employees. I had worked for a few that did the same and that why I work for myself now. I don't make a killing working for myself but at least I am honest about my bills. One employer was so bad to cheat that I would not even bill the customer, I left that up to him as just I did the work and collected my $6.25 / hr pay. I finally had it after 8 yrs and left.
I remember one employer nearly getting caught by US Army cheating them. He was running around like a chicken with his head cut off making up work cards using everybody in the business as repairmen even though I was the only repairman. I might put in a 1/2 hour on a job but he was billing up to 8 hrs for the work. There was no in heck I could work 400 hrs a week. He wanted me to lie to cover his back side but I wouldn't do it so he made sure I wasn't around when the auditors were. I just couldn't believe the Army auditors were that gullible. but apparently they were as he got by with his con job.
StarTech
No. Its that the IRS just stand for "Idiot Ran Service". You can't even get a real person on the phone anymore so you can get things straighten out. Well it least they haven't screwed up my Social Security account yet but that is probably next.You must have been a really bad boy I got mine. Please verify the gas prices so we all can see them I think something like that would make national news if not at least state news. What state are you in Tn. or NC.
Well I didn't fall the 0.009 gimmick that the local radio station was doing at the station. I not that stupid. My time is more important to me. Like the $100 welding job did yesterday. I charged $75 but got a $25 tip. So I made the bill $100 for the rush job so the gentleman could write it off his taxes. That not my largest tip either as I got over $100 tip last year on a $200 job.
Though I can get gas free gas with my Mapco Rewards but I don't punish the local station. I did however take them up on the 0.15 off a gallon yesterday and I filled up with a little over 21.67 gallons @ 2.469 / gal. And last month I got $1.00 off a gallon @ Kroger when I got 25 gallons as I had 1000 pts to use. If I remember correctly that made the fuel 1.649 /gallon. And with Delta slowing things down again gas will probably be back under $2 soon. Really a large portion the fuel prices is taxes always so it can only get so low and then oil companies will just cut back production to keep the prices up.
And I know how to manage things. It like yesterday where I got 9 lbs of 80/20 hamburger for 1.66/lb when then the normal price lately is 4.97/lb. And I also got bone in chicken breast for 0.88 /lb when the regular price is 1.99 /lb. I actually save 38% on my total bill too so I could afford those all beef wieners. Plus I didn't pay the 9.75% sales tax either.
And yes meat prices here has gone through the roof like $11.99 for ribeye steaks through I got about 8lbs recently for 6.99 lb. Or that T-bone I seen last week for $22/lb.What a shame since I got T-bones once last year for 3.99/lb. I had a large cookout that time for my customers. Even the salad kits I buy jumped over 0.50 per package since a week ago. They just got passed up besides the diet didn't seem to be working. I will just go get some watercress instead locally. It about a 4 mile hike so that will burn off a few calories.
Most employers will just look the other way even when they know something is illegal until caught. They will lie through their teeth too when caught blaming it on the employees. I had worked for a few that did the same and that why I work for myself now. I don't make a killing working for myself but at least I am honest about my bills. One employer was so bad to cheat that I would not even bill the customer, I left that up to him as just I did the work and collected my $6.25 / hr pay. I finally had it after 8 yrs and left.
I remember one employer nearly getting caught by US Army cheating them. He was running around like a chicken with his head cut off making up work cards using everybody in the business as repairmen even though I was the only repairman. I might put in a 1/2 hour on a job but he was billing up to 8 hrs for the work. There was no in heck I could work 400 hrs a week. He wanted me to lie to cover his back side but I wouldn't do it so he made sure I wasn't around when the auditors were. I just couldn't believe the Army auditors were that gullible. but apparently they were as he got by with his con job.
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gamma_ray
gamma_ray
Yes, the warnings are clear, but the American spirit is often stubborn. I have family, some who've passed, and one currently in ICU due to the pandemic.He wasn't as invincible as he thought. No one should tempt faith. I learned a long time ago to heed warnings.
What is more sad is the 10 people that just die in severe flooding in TN near Nashville. They too didn't heed the warnings.
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Although I didn't know any of these 11 folks it is sad to here of their deaths from being hardheaded.
The old adage is still true. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound cure."
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northcreeek262
Last time I looked it was the red states being knuckleheads about the vaccine.
northcreeek262
Being a fertile bed for the Covid Delta and passing it on to others is not a personal liberty but, it is personal stupidity. Like the Doctor said "if this attitude existed in the 50's we would still have polio today"Trump got vaccinated, he also recommended you get the vaccine, but does not believe in mandating it. Personal Liberty. live with the choices you make.
Last time I looked it was the red states being knuckleheads about the vaccine.
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Bellcrank
Trump was the pres. He didn't want to scare, alarm or freak out the public. He did say masks and the vaccine work. He knows they all work as he gets the best briefing from top so called experts daily. Every word he said or tweet he did, someone freaked out. And the Democraps were first to attack him on his every word.
Politics aside, Trump did more for the American PEOPLE than I've ever seen. Low gas prices, border wall, stock market boomed and many more.
And our current pres "Sleepy" Joe Biden. What has he done for us? LOL Okay I DO like one thing the man has done. Pull the troops out of Afghanistan. Although he screwed it all up by removing the troops before the civilians. Step in the right direction. Next I hope he pulls out of Korea and Vietnam. What the heck are we still over there for?
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gwartney
Is there a <redacted> rule about talking politics? Are you all so insecure that you feel the need to talk about it on a Lawn site?
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Bellcrank
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Bellcrank
Trump was the pres. He didn't want to scare, alarm or freak out the public. He did say masks and the vaccine work. He knows they all work as he gets the best briefing from top so called experts daily. Every word he said or tweet he did, someone freaked out. And the Democraps were first to attack him on his every word.
Politics aside, Trump did more for the American PEOPLE than I've ever seen. Low gas prices, border wall, stock market boomed and many more.
And our current pres "Sleepy" Joe Biden. What has he done for us? LOL Okay I DO like one thing the man has done. Pull the troops out of Afghanistan. Although he screwed it all up by removing the troops before the civilians. Step in the right direction. Next I hope he pulls out of Korea and Vietnam. What the heck are we still over there for?
#27
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mmoffitt
oh no now it's getting way off topic....
remember to listen your Doctor,listen to mother,father, the policeman, the judge, girlfriend/wife(at least pretend to listen), the cat,the dog, your bookie,the voices in your head and or anybody who will listen...
Most importantly I listen to all the great guys who repair equipment or do it as a serious hobby...I have learned so much from you all! By just listening!
Be well all of you and thank you
Martin Moffitt new to the art of listening!
remember to listen your Doctor,listen to mother,father, the policeman, the judge, girlfriend/wife(at least pretend to listen), the cat,the dog, your bookie,the voices in your head and or anybody who will listen...
Most importantly I listen to all the great guys who repair equipment or do it as a serious hobby...I have learned so much from you all! By just listening!
Be well all of you and thank you
Martin Moffitt new to the art of listening!
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jlee4363
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jlee4363
Covid 19 wouldn't exist w/o gvmmt financing and u sheep are arguing amongst urself about it,the also gvmnt financed vaccine. They thrive on gullibility and division.Who is to believe anything the evil culprit is trying to sell you? Just realize washington dc is a group of actors in the most profitable soap opera ever to exist everything scripted. Now you have to wonder did biden get willingly written out of the play or did he get swashbuckled? Either way good riddens biden. Can't wait to see next episode unfold
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neophyte_lawn_guy
I’m sure Mr Valentine was a nice person and clearly his family and friends miss him. However, he chose to be the voice of disinformation about the covid vaccines. To the extent his arguments convinced people to not get vaccinated and some of those people died he did a dis-service to his community. My guess is that if he could have gone back and had a do-over he would have gotten vaccinated.
it’s also worth noting that no one at Fox News can work if they are not vaccinated. All those people who are talking about how bad the vaccines are and how horrible it is to be forced to take them all have been vaccinated. Just saying…
oh and even Trump at his last rally told people to get vaccinated.
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neophyte_lawn_guy
So the worst part about this is your comment “politics aside” as you then go on to make nothing but political arguments. Clearly you have a political agenda and really it would be nice if we could leave politics out of this forum. Though I suppose it’s hard to do when the topic is inherently political.Trump was the pres. He didn't want to scare, alarm or freak out the public. He did say masks and the vaccine work. He knows they all work as he gets the best briefing from top so called experts daily. Every word he said or tweet he did, someone freaked out. And the Democraps were first to attack him on his every word.
Politics aside, Trump did more for the American PEOPLE than I've ever seen. Low gas prices, border wall, stock market boomed and many more.
And our current pres "Sleepy" Joe Biden. What has he done for us? LOL Okay I DO like one thing the man has done. Pull the troops out of Afghanistan. Although he screwed it all up by removing the troops before the civilians. Step in the right direction. Next I hope he pulls out of Korea and Vietnam. What the heck are we still over there for?
I’m sure Mr Valentine was a nice person and clearly his family and friends miss him. However, he chose to be the voice of disinformation about the covid vaccines. To the extent his arguments convinced people to not get vaccinated and some of those people died he did a dis-service to his community. My guess is that if he could have gone back and had a do-over he would have gotten vaccinated.
it’s also worth noting that no one at Fox News can work if they are not vaccinated. All those people who are talking about how bad the vaccines are and how horrible it is to be forced to take them all have been vaccinated. Just saying…
oh and even Trump at his last rally told people to get vaccinated.
#30
Scrubcadet10
childrenshealthdefense.org
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this, i know of 12 people right now that were sick with covid within the last month, like sick sick..., 103 fever and all that... 8 of those people are fully vaccinated, the other 4 had their first shot...one of which is a 14 year old boy, in great health.
I already had Covid in january.. it was a walk in the park for me, i believe because I took the necessary steps to build up my immune system the previous year.
Plus, how do they know every body is getting "Delta" what is the procedure for confirming a case the "variant" instead of the "Original Covid from Wuhan"
Scrubcadet10
Being a fertile bed for the Covid Delta and passing it on to others is not a personal liberty but, it is personal stupidity. Like the Doctor said "if this attitude existed in the 50's we would still have polio today"
Last time I looked it was the red states being knuckleheads about the vaccine.
Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers
A preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.
childrenshealthdefense.org
I already had Covid in january.. it was a walk in the park for me, i believe because I took the necessary steps to build up my immune system the previous year.
Plus, how do they know every body is getting "Delta" what is the procedure for confirming a case the "variant" instead of the "Original Covid from Wuhan"
#31
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bertsmobile1
There is a rule about language but they are pretty laid back about that as well.
It is the "front Porch" section for blathering on .
Slomo is always good for some comic relief as he is a fanitical Republcan supporter ( or he is a good fisherman ) .
And no I doubt that any here are "so insecure" but it is fun to see what people actually believe and what misinformation has sunk into their heads .
People believe what they want to believe and in fact they have just found the belief gene, apparently it is on the 6th chromosome so it looks like Hawkings got it wrong .
USA politics is rather fun to observe from a long way away in a country that has compulsory voting so every one has to vote and an independent electorial commission that runs all of the elections from local government through the state government and on to Federal government plus a for a lot of Unions as well , They also set the divisional boundaries so we at least do have some thing that you lot don't , a truely free & fair election .
Thus there is no need for the tribal frenzie that gets whipped up in the US to encourage people to get off their bums & vote, nor can the incumbent party rig an election by any means other than the timing and of course port barreling .
As for Covid, it will be here for a long time and the Colombian variant killed 8 fully vaccinated people in Brazil last week .
The report did not mention which vaccine the people had been given, just that they had the complete double dose .
So perhaps we can all have a chance of dieing in the next wave.
As I type, we are in the middle of a lock down caused by inept government officials failing to ensure that a DHL flight crew were moved from the airport in a covid safe mannar.
To deflect from their mistakes the government played the race & elitist cards which boosted the popularity of the Premier & health minister .
However they let it get away so now that 1 person's infection has spread almost nation wide , killed 79 people and infected 8000.
They poo pooed the rapid antigen tests so now all of the hospitals are about to collapse as the staff have either contracted Covid or are in isolation because they worked with an infected person.
SO rubbish governments come in all colours in all counties & with all voting systems.
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bertsmobile1
Well yes there is a rule but the mods generally let it ride if the posts remain civil.Is there a fucking rule about talking politics? Are you all so insecure that you feel the need to talk about it on a Lawn site?
There is a rule about language but they are pretty laid back about that as well.
It is the "front Porch" section for blathering on .
Slomo is always good for some comic relief as he is a fanitical Republcan supporter ( or he is a good fisherman ) .
And no I doubt that any here are "so insecure" but it is fun to see what people actually believe and what misinformation has sunk into their heads .
People believe what they want to believe and in fact they have just found the belief gene, apparently it is on the 6th chromosome so it looks like Hawkings got it wrong .
USA politics is rather fun to observe from a long way away in a country that has compulsory voting so every one has to vote and an independent electorial commission that runs all of the elections from local government through the state government and on to Federal government plus a for a lot of Unions as well , They also set the divisional boundaries so we at least do have some thing that you lot don't , a truely free & fair election .
Thus there is no need for the tribal frenzie that gets whipped up in the US to encourage people to get off their bums & vote, nor can the incumbent party rig an election by any means other than the timing and of course port barreling .
As for Covid, it will be here for a long time and the Colombian variant killed 8 fully vaccinated people in Brazil last week .
The report did not mention which vaccine the people had been given, just that they had the complete double dose .
So perhaps we can all have a chance of dieing in the next wave.
As I type, we are in the middle of a lock down caused by inept government officials failing to ensure that a DHL flight crew were moved from the airport in a covid safe mannar.
To deflect from their mistakes the government played the race & elitist cards which boosted the popularity of the Premier & health minister .
However they let it get away so now that 1 person's infection has spread almost nation wide , killed 79 people and infected 8000.
They poo pooed the rapid antigen tests so now all of the hospitals are about to collapse as the staff have either contracted Covid or are in isolation because they worked with an infected person.
SO rubbish governments come in all colours in all counties & with all voting systems.
#32
Deleted member 99482
Deleted member 99482
Not sure how this site turned into a political discussion. I'm not sure how you can say Trump did great things for the country. Low gas prices are supply and demand and other than releasing oil from the federal reserve, the president has nothing to do with it. You do realize the rise in the stock market is from the federal reserve pumping billions of dollars into the economy each week. Hence the rise in inflation. Only a small part of the border wall was completed, so I doubt there is any real benefit there. Not that I'm saying everything he did I disagreed with. There was never a serous attempt to get the border fixed before him. Now it would be great if every member of Congress would begin to control the run away spending.Trump was the pres. He didn't want to scare, alarm or freak out the public. He did say masks and the vaccine work. He knows they all work as he gets the best briefing from top so called experts daily. Every word he said or tweet he did, someone freaked out. And the Democraps were first to attack him on his every word.
Politics aside, Trump did more for the American PEOPLE than I've ever seen. Low gas prices, border wall, stock market boomed and many more.
And our current pres "Sleepy" Joe Biden. What has he done for us? LOL Okay I DO like one thing the man has done. Pull the troops out of Afghanistan. Although he screwed it all up by removing the troops before the civilians. Step in the right direction. Next I hope he pulls out of Korea and Vietnam. What the heck are we still over there for?
#33
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ScooterBob
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ScooterBob
F*cked around and found out, didn't he? I have NO sympathy for anyone who won't try to save themselves. Go down with the ship, I say .....Today is a sad day for the state of TN and talk radio. Today renowned talk show radio host Phil Valentine passed away of the Covid19 virus. Phil hosted the Phil Valentine show on Super Talk 99.7 WTN for many years. He was my ride home from work every working day. He will be missed. May God bless his family as they move forward and heal from their loss.
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Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
#1 it's almost inevitable now days. just keep it civil.Not sure how this site turned into a political discussion. I'm not sure how you can say Trump did great things for the country. Low gas prices are supply and demand and other than releasing oil from the federal reserve, the president has nothing to do with it.
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Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
Term Limits in the Congress would fix alot of issues i think....Now it would be great if every member of Congress would begin to control the run away spending.
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roadster675
And how many other people did he kill who believed his misinformation antivaxer campaign?
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roadster675
Ye reap what ye sowToday is a sad day for the state of TN and talk radio. Today renowned talk show radio host Phil Valentine passed away of the Covid19 virus. Phil hosted the Phil Valentine show on Super Talk 99.7 WTN for many years. He was my ride home from work every working day. He will be missed. May God bless his family as they move forward and heal from their loss.
And how many other people did he kill who believed his misinformation antivaxer campaign?
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juslog
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juslog
Lets start talking about small engines again. Everyone is free to believe anything and free to die for those beliefs. Just dont make others die with you. Sad that people still die because of misinformation from Phil Valentine and others spreading lies. Sorry, I have no sympathy. Karma is a real bitch!Not sure how this site turned into a political discussion. I'm not sure how you can say Trump did great things for the country. Low gas prices are supply and demand and other than releasing oil from the federal reserve, the president has nothing to do with it. You do realize the rise in the stock market is from the federal reserve pumping billions of dollars into the economy each week. Hence the rise in inflation. Only a small part of the border wall was completed, so I doubt there is any real benefit there. Not that I'm saying everything he did I disagreed with. There was never a serous attempt to get the border fixed before him. Now it would be great if every member of Congress would begin to control the run away spending.
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Searcy
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Searcy
What's really sad are all the people that will die from the misinformation Phil spread with his anti vaxxer social media and radio show campaign. I wish he had lived so he could fulfill his death bed promise to return to the air and undo that wrong. So preventable.. He will be missed.
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SHB
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SHB
Water flows from a thunder storm washed debris down a creek, where it lodged under a railroad bridge, forming a dam. Water built unnoticed behind this dam until it suddenly failed, sending a wall of water into town. There was no warning for these folks to heed.He wasn't as invincible as he thought. No one should tempt faith. I learned a long time ago to heed warnings.
What is more sad is the 10 people that just die in severe flooding in TN near Nashville. They too didn't heed the warnings.
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Although I didn't know any of these 11 folks it is sad to here of their deaths from being hardheaded.
The old adage is still true. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound cure."
#41
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
The problem is people already believe things, and look to someone that believes the same as they do and call it fact.
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Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
My god, that's terrible.Water flows from a thunder storm washed debris down a creek, where it lodged under a railroad bridge, forming a dam. Water built unnoticed behind this dam until it suddenly failed, sending a wall of water into town. There was no warning for these folks to heed.
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lefty2cox
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lefty2cox
I think the takeaway here is that if you have a problem with your lawnmower, please be sure to post the model number and engine numbers in the initial post. I think that may calm everyone down.
Thank you.
Thank you.
#45
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Stokdgs
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Stokdgs
Yes !!!! Pre- Jackin'-Joke-Biden, my gas at Costco = 2.499/gallon, After biden, same gas at Costco = 4.299/gallon.I miss filling up shop gas cans for less than $2.50 a gallon.
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GoGuard
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GoGuard
THIS is what we should be marching on state capitals and DC for. Term limits and the same federal benefits package that federal employees get. No less, no more.Term Limits in the Congress would fix alot of issues i think....
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billypumper
He was a far right conservative who didn't believe in the vaccine and thought it was a scam until he was admitted to the hospital then switched his point of view on the vaccine, I will let you decide his political status.Was the radio guy vaccinated?
Or was he one of those Democrats that think covid is a political joke slash scam?
#48
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billypumper
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billypumper
Was the radio guy vaccinated?
Or was he one of those Democrats that think covid is a political joke slash scam?
#49
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Rayjay
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Rayjay
How about telling the REAL truth. Biden has no control over the price of gasoline. Do you make over $400,000 a year? If so , then your taxes will go up. If you do make over $400,000, your taxes NEED to go up after all the huge tax breaks the wealthy received under Trump. And I seriously doubt the Biden administration had "bestowed" inflation upon us. Come on, hlw49. Keep up with the real truth. The problem with people like you is that you hear crap from the right wing media and believe everything you hear.But I can honestly says that the Republicans have made it hard for me to vote for their candidates with all the lies being told. Its just like a bunch brats fighting over a cookie. Right now I would rather vote for a rattlesnake instead of any of political candidates. At least I know what it going to do.
And what would those lies be. Do you like the higher gas prices, taxes, higher food prices and inflation the Biden administration has bestowed upon. Oh yes and all the thousands of job he destroyed by shutting do the Keystone Pipeline. Not to mention the debacle at the border. They want to mask us and shoot us up again and do nothing about the illegals at the border bringing this virus in on us and Biden is spreading it all over the country by shipping illegals' all over the country. Not even telling the governors about. Governor Lee told Biden he did not want them but we got then anyway shipped in here in the dark of the night. I will take Trump and his MAGA agenda any day.
#50
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
How is it that gas prices went up from 2008 to 2016 with a D, down from 2016 to 2020 with an R, and now with a D, they're going up.....?
#51
StarTech
If we can't get things where they need to be then nothing can get done. I was reading this week that global shipping is getting worst.
But I am doing my part to help by not ordering any surplus parts and reducing my internal inventory. It done dropped from 50K to 36K. I am making money but my vendors aren't getting any of it. Besides one vendor said they are so over worked they can't keep up with the orders so I am giving them a break from sending me anything until after the first of the year. That has only cost them a couple thousand so far in sales since June.
And just think if we keeping losing members of our work force things will only get worst too. Here is the latest forecast Death toll.
StarTech
Don't worry with Delta it coming back down...But so is our economy coming to a crashing halt too.Yes !!!! Pre- Jackin'-Joke-Biden, my gas at Costco = 2.499/gallon, After biden, same gas at Costco = 4.299/gallon.
If we can't get things where they need to be then nothing can get done. I was reading this week that global shipping is getting worst.
But I am doing my part to help by not ordering any surplus parts and reducing my internal inventory. It done dropped from 50K to 36K. I am making money but my vendors aren't getting any of it. Besides one vendor said they are so over worked they can't keep up with the orders so I am giving them a break from sending me anything until after the first of the year. That has only cost them a couple thousand so far in sales since June.
And just think if we keeping losing members of our work force things will only get worst too. Here is the latest forecast Death toll.
Now this just a drop in the bucket as we are also losing people through other death causes too.The forecast also predicts that new Covid-19 deaths will likely increase over the next four weeks, projecting a total of 651,000 to 680,000 deaths reported by September 18. The previous forecast, published August 18, predicted up to 664,000 Covid-19 deaths by September 11.
#52
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Rayjay
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Rayjay
Again, the reason gas prices are up is because of OPEC, not anything Biden did. Read about it on places other then Fox News.How is it that gas prices went up from 2008 to 2016 with a D, down from 2016 to 2020 with an R, and now with a D, they're going up.....?
#53
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
I don't watch read or watch FoxAgain, the reason gas prices are up is because of OPEC, not anything Biden did. Read about it on places other then Fox News.
#54
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Rayjay
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Rayjay
Well, evidently where you are reading is not telling the truth. Just saying.I don't watch read or watch Fox
#55
StarTech
And yes gas prices are based on demand and not who is the head of the government. And if the traffic around here is any indication the demand has fell to the floor again. I don't even see the local farmer moving much lately equipment wise.
StarTech
Gas has actually gone down lately I was paying $3/ gallon a weeks ago and now it is around $2.75.How is it that gas prices went up from 2008 to 2016 with a D, down from 2016 to 2020 with an R, and now with a D, they're going up.....?
And yes gas prices are based on demand and not who is the head of the government. And if the traffic around here is any indication the demand has fell to the floor again. I don't even see the local farmer moving much lately equipment wise.
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Nappy24
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Nappy24
I find it hard to believe that people like yourself find it necessary to make political comments about an ass such as Donald Tramp you n a lawnmower forum site. Get an f’n life sloppy.Trump was the pres. He didn't want to scare, alarm or freak out the public. He did say masks and the vaccine work. He knows they all work as he gets the best briefing from top so called experts daily. Every word he said or tweet he did, someone freaked out. And the Democraps were first to attack him on his every word.
Politics aside, Trump did more for the American PEOPLE than I've ever seen. Low gas prices, border wall, stock market boomed and many more.
And our current pres "Sleepy" Joe Biden. What has he done for us? LOL Okay I DO like one thing the man has done. Pull the troops out of Afghanistan. Although he screwed it all up by removing the troops before the civilians. Step in the right direction. Next I hope he pulls out of Korea and Vietnam. What the heck are we still over there for?
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Rayjay
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Rayjay
Well said. Here is a quote from the main page of this site "When you're done mowing, grab a seat on the Lawn Mower Forum front porch and talk about whatever comes to mind (except politics, of course!).I find it hard to believe that people like yourself find it necessary to make political comments about an ass such as Donald Tramp you n a lawnmower forum site. Get an f’n life sloppy.
#58
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AdamE
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AdamE
Just how do you square gas prices with supply and demand? It's the oil futures that drive the prices. When Biden stopped leases on federal land, the futures prices went up. When he killed the Keystone Pipeline (and up to 40,000 jobs), the futures prices went up. That's what drive gas prices. We were energy independant, now we're begging Saudi Arabia to pump more gas.Not sure how this site turned into a political discussion. I'm not sure how you can say Trump did great things for the country. Low gas prices are supply and demand and other than releasing oil from the federal reserve, the president has nothing to do with it. You do realize the rise in the stock market is from the federal reserve pumping billions of dollars into the economy each week. Hence the rise in inflation. Only a small part of the border wall was completed, so I doubt there is any real benefit there. Not that I'm saying everything he did I disagreed with. There was never a serous attempt to get the border fixed before him. Now it would be great if every member of Congress would begin to control the run away spending.
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AdamE
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AdamE
That was helpful...He was a far right conservative who didn't believe in the vaccine and thought it was a scam until he was admitted to the hospital then switched his point of view on the vaccine, I will let you decide his political status.
#60
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AdamE
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AdamE
And what you read IS the truth? Come on man!Well, evidently where you are reading is not telling the truth. Just saying.
#61
PTmowerMech
PTmowerMech
What ever is and has been going on in the middle east, with covid and almost everything else, you can bet that we don't know the half if it.
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pilotbuddy
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pilotbuddy
Except Trump would have done it properly. Not like Pedojoe!Afghanistan was a mistake from start to finish
No foreign power has been able to rule Afghanistan for the past 300 years .
While the timing may have not been particularly sound , what happened was going to happen eventually.
The other alternative was to continue to provide air support for the regular army indefinately till every man & woman of serving age was killed .
What escapes most news rooms is that the Afghan regularly army has been loosing 14,000 soldiers a year for the past 5 years when the US ( and OZ ) pulled out regular ground troops.
Without the air support the regulars knew they would be killed before long.
Remember the Talibahn honestly believe that they are doing their Gods work , most of their troops are peasant farmers with nothing to loose , largely uneducated except for what they were taught in the mosques and in the case of the Pashtuns displaced from what they believe was the land God gave them .
And for the benefit of Slomo. it was actually President Trump who made the deal with the Talibahn all President Biden did was to do what president Trump had already committed the USA to do .
#64
StarTech
StarTech
Well put...We all are mushrooms. We all are keep in the dark and fed manure.What ever is and has been going on in the middle east, with covid and almost everything else, you can bet that we don't know the half if it.
#65
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Lord_Cavendish
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Lord_Cavendish
OK mate, I'll bite. How about "correlation isn't causation".How is it that gas prices went up from 2008 to 2016 with a D, down from 2016 to 2020 with an R, and now with a D, they're going up.....?
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bertsmobile1
Every where else on the planet has taxes on fuel that makes it more expensive than the USA.
Thus EU & Asian designed cars are much more fuel efficient than US cars .
It was interesting a few years back when a "show us your truck" thread was running , just how many contractors thought they needed 200+Hp trucks to tow their mowers with .
Even more interesting was how many decided they needed massive engines in their mowers .
Back when money was tight ride ons were around 4" / hp now it ins down to around 2.5 "/ Hp grass evolved to be more more resistant ?
Considering that the world is going to hell in a hand basket from increasingly frequent & violent storms, that flood rivers & kill people . and considering that one of the big driving factors is atmospheric CO2 then forcing people to use fuel more economically is a good idea.
Only 2 ways to do that by legislation or by taxation and there is no way the good citizens of the USA would comply with the first option.
And FWIW OZ is the biggest energy exporter on the planet and a nett exporter of oil & gas but we currently pay between $ 5.50 & $ 6.00 US per US ( short ) gallon for e10 and 20% more for high octane
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bertsmobile1
One of the big, in fact the biggest problem with command capitalist economies is the massive waste of resources and the squandering of things because for you they are cheap .Yes !!!! Pre- Jackin'-Joke-Biden, my gas at Costco = 2.499/gallon, After biden, same gas at Costco = 4.299/gallon.
Every where else on the planet has taxes on fuel that makes it more expensive than the USA.
Thus EU & Asian designed cars are much more fuel efficient than US cars .
It was interesting a few years back when a "show us your truck" thread was running , just how many contractors thought they needed 200+Hp trucks to tow their mowers with .
Even more interesting was how many decided they needed massive engines in their mowers .
Back when money was tight ride ons were around 4" / hp now it ins down to around 2.5 "/ Hp grass evolved to be more more resistant ?
Considering that the world is going to hell in a hand basket from increasingly frequent & violent storms, that flood rivers & kill people . and considering that one of the big driving factors is atmospheric CO2 then forcing people to use fuel more economically is a good idea.
Only 2 ways to do that by legislation or by taxation and there is no way the good citizens of the USA would comply with the first option.
And FWIW OZ is the biggest energy exporter on the planet and a nett exporter of oil & gas but we currently pay between $ 5.50 & $ 6.00 US per US ( short ) gallon for e10 and 20% more for high octane
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bertsmobile1
If the oil went strait from the wells to the refineries then to the end user it would be about 1/2 to 1/3 of the pump price.
But futures traders buy up production that has not been made yet then set a sale price to maximumise their profits.
Because stock markets run largely on rhumours & inuendo and so many second tier investors just follow any slight market trend the scare of a possible potential shortage of oil allows the theives in the middle to jack up prices.
The big drop in fuel prices was a result of the intermediates getting it wrong to the point that every storage facility was full.
US refineries were even renting old tankers to take the excess production.
As for things like oil prices, well the stock market publish prices and the futures market publish expected supply & demand figures updated hourly .
One of the key reasons why China has become a megga power is they set up their own oil futures market to cut out the leeches in the middle so Chinese industry gets their oil inputs for about 1/3 what the same factory would in the USA .
Things that a politican does often take a very long time to show a result.
The problems of capital accumulation by a minority that hold the majority to ransom go back to the Nixon administration watering down the financial regulations and he is log time gone.
The true results of thw Trump administration will start to show during the second Biddon term, should there be one .
What you see happening the day after a proclamation is made is the hysterical reaction to it not what it is actually doing .
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bertsmobile1
Actually fuel prices move because of the actions of share market day traders , pension funds & hedge funds .Again, the reason gas prices are up is because of OPEC, not anything Biden did. Read about it on places other then Fox News.
If the oil went strait from the wells to the refineries then to the end user it would be about 1/2 to 1/3 of the pump price.
But futures traders buy up production that has not been made yet then set a sale price to maximumise their profits.
Because stock markets run largely on rhumours & inuendo and so many second tier investors just follow any slight market trend the scare of a possible potential shortage of oil allows the theives in the middle to jack up prices.
The big drop in fuel prices was a result of the intermediates getting it wrong to the point that every storage facility was full.
US refineries were even renting old tankers to take the excess production.
As for things like oil prices, well the stock market publish prices and the futures market publish expected supply & demand figures updated hourly .
One of the key reasons why China has become a megga power is they set up their own oil futures market to cut out the leeches in the middle so Chinese industry gets their oil inputs for about 1/3 what the same factory would in the USA .
Things that a politican does often take a very long time to show a result.
The problems of capital accumulation by a minority that hold the majority to ransom go back to the Nixon administration watering down the financial regulations and he is log time gone.
The true results of thw Trump administration will start to show during the second Biddon term, should there be one .
What you see happening the day after a proclamation is made is the hysterical reaction to it not what it is actually doing .
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PTmowerMech
That's why it's so hard for me to pick a side. Even when they're saying something I agree with. Sooo many times I tell someone "we this politician said this or that. And he's right. I support him for that." Then a week, a month or a year goes by, and he does just the opposite.
Trump is a good example (because it's fresh in my mind). "Lock her up." That was something that convinced people to vote for him. Or Mexico building the wall, supporting the 2nd. All those things convinced people that he was their guy.
The very day after the election, he calls Bill and Hillary his friend and say he's not going to "lock her up." And it's the same thing with the wall, and the bump stock ban.
So now a days, I watch what they do more than listen to what they say. And never EVER pick a side. I don't even support the LP anymore. They've bit me in the butt a couple of times too.
PTmowerMech
Well put...We all are mushrooms. We all are keep in the dark and fed manure.
That's why it's so hard for me to pick a side. Even when they're saying something I agree with. Sooo many times I tell someone "we this politician said this or that. And he's right. I support him for that." Then a week, a month or a year goes by, and he does just the opposite.
Trump is a good example (because it's fresh in my mind). "Lock her up." That was something that convinced people to vote for him. Or Mexico building the wall, supporting the 2nd. All those things convinced people that he was their guy.
The very day after the election, he calls Bill and Hillary his friend and say he's not going to "lock her up." And it's the same thing with the wall, and the bump stock ban.
So now a days, I watch what they do more than listen to what they say. And never EVER pick a side. I don't even support the LP anymore. They've bit me in the butt a couple of times too.
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PTmowerMech
Man, don't fall for that excuse. Fuel prices are up because the oil/gas companies are wanting to make more money. Exxon/mobil own most of the oil fields in the US. They own the trucks that deliver the oil to the refineries and the to the gas stations. They own the refineries. The prices on the stock market and OPEC is just an excuse.
Like the BS supply and demand excuse they used to use.
They dump a bunch of money into new oil fields, drilling rigs and hands. And a crap load of overhead for a while to suck up as much as possible. Then suddenly, the lay offs come. Equipment gets stored, and they sit back and reap the profits from all they've done in the last few years.
It's been the same thing since I was a kid. Boom & bust. Boom & bust. Everything they talk about, what they spew in the news, is just propaganda to justify their BS.
PTmowerMech
Again, the reason gas prices are up is because of OPEC, not anything Biden did. Read about it on places other then Fox News.
Man, don't fall for that excuse. Fuel prices are up because the oil/gas companies are wanting to make more money. Exxon/mobil own most of the oil fields in the US. They own the trucks that deliver the oil to the refineries and the to the gas stations. They own the refineries. The prices on the stock market and OPEC is just an excuse.
Like the BS supply and demand excuse they used to use.
They dump a bunch of money into new oil fields, drilling rigs and hands. And a crap load of overhead for a while to suck up as much as possible. Then suddenly, the lay offs come. Equipment gets stored, and they sit back and reap the profits from all they've done in the last few years.
It's been the same thing since I was a kid. Boom & bust. Boom & bust. Everything they talk about, what they spew in the news, is just propaganda to justify their BS.
#70
PTmowerMech
My friends wife died this morning. According to him, she had nothing else wrong with her except Covid. I think this is a real deal. I just wished so many hadn't lied about all the numbers.
Like a woman I know who was in the final stages of dementia, living in a nursing home. Couldn't eat on her own, talk or much of anything else. She slipped out of bed one night and wasn't found for 5 hours. She had a big bruise on her face where she hit the floor.
Long story short, 24 hour later she's dead. Cause of death: Covid 19.
PTmowerMech
That was helpful...
My friends wife died this morning. According to him, she had nothing else wrong with her except Covid. I think this is a real deal. I just wished so many hadn't lied about all the numbers.
Like a woman I know who was in the final stages of dementia, living in a nursing home. Couldn't eat on her own, talk or much of anything else. She slipped out of bed one night and wasn't found for 5 hours. She had a big bruise on her face where she hit the floor.
Long story short, 24 hour later she's dead. Cause of death: Covid 19.
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bertsmobile1
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Hey PT good to hear from you again , hope you are well .
Like you I vote on the platform presented don't care which side is presenting it.
However down here I can vote for neither major party and have only done so 3 times in 50 years.
Unfortunately you lot only got 2 to choose from , the thieving liars party and the lieing thieves party .
What was that quote "no matter who you vote for a politican always wins "
Cause of death is always a problem because a death certificate can only have one when in reality it is usually compound unless you got shot .
In the case you mentioned I would suggest it was done to cover the backsides of the nursing home from possible negligance suit .
Covid could not be their fault but an assult from a staff member or other patient or lack of proper supervision resulting in a deadly fall is their fault and at the minimum requires the regulator to investigate the death .
I seriously doubt that it was done to deliberately inflate the number of Covid deaths particularly when reporting it would mean the facility then had to spend a lot of money on decontamination cleaning .
As for what we get dished up as "news" yes you are right, largely theatre to divert the attention of the public from what is actually going on .
Prime example is the Chinese filling in the submerged reefs like Subi to make "islands" .
Got thousands of hours of media and to keep the hairy chested Americans happy lots of money spent flying planes over the top & sailing warships past .
Meanwhile not a word on China's increase in their gold reservers, massive purchases of US debt , creation of their own oil futures market , and massive purchases of US currency all 3 of which can & will drastically affect the value of the US dollar long term .
Long term the Chinese are buying dollars which is keeping the dollar value high which makes US products expensive on the world market & Chinese products cheaper thus destroying the US manufacturing economy and drastically increasing the whole worlds dependence on China ( they are doing the same with the Euro as well ) .
Like you I vote on the platform presented don't care which side is presenting it.
However down here I can vote for neither major party and have only done so 3 times in 50 years.
Unfortunately you lot only got 2 to choose from , the thieving liars party and the lieing thieves party .
What was that quote "no matter who you vote for a politican always wins "
Cause of death is always a problem because a death certificate can only have one when in reality it is usually compound unless you got shot .
In the case you mentioned I would suggest it was done to cover the backsides of the nursing home from possible negligance suit .
Covid could not be their fault but an assult from a staff member or other patient or lack of proper supervision resulting in a deadly fall is their fault and at the minimum requires the regulator to investigate the death .
I seriously doubt that it was done to deliberately inflate the number of Covid deaths particularly when reporting it would mean the facility then had to spend a lot of money on decontamination cleaning .
As for what we get dished up as "news" yes you are right, largely theatre to divert the attention of the public from what is actually going on .
Prime example is the Chinese filling in the submerged reefs like Subi to make "islands" .
Got thousands of hours of media and to keep the hairy chested Americans happy lots of money spent flying planes over the top & sailing warships past .
Meanwhile not a word on China's increase in their gold reservers, massive purchases of US debt , creation of their own oil futures market , and massive purchases of US currency all 3 of which can & will drastically affect the value of the US dollar long term .
Long term the Chinese are buying dollars which is keeping the dollar value high which makes US products expensive on the world market & Chinese products cheaper thus destroying the US manufacturing economy and drastically increasing the whole worlds dependence on China ( they are doing the same with the Euro as well ) .
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U are the one listening to the crap Biden said if U make less than 400k a year you will not pay one penny in taxes. Maybe it was one penny more in taxes. Hog wash the price of every thing is going up and you think you are not paying more taxes. Biden talking points. As prices go up the tax you pay goes up as well. Inflation is a tax on all people it makes the price of goods go up and like I said you pay more taxes. I hear the sound of money being taken from my bank account when I pay my bills and buy the things I need to live. Are you happy with the open borders? Illegals bringing the covid into out country unveted, untested and unvaccinated and Biden spreading it all over the country. Maybe the virus hasn't touched your life like it has a lot of people. You like what Biden is doing in Afghanistan leaving American citizens there to die. We lost 13 American Heroes today and Biden just says oh well not everyone will get out. They should have been gotten out first then the military. Like Trump said do you miss me yet. HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!How about telling the REAL truth. Biden has no control over the price of gasoline. Do you make over $400,000 a year? If so , then your taxes will go up. If you do make over $400,000, your taxes NEED to go up after all the huge tax breaks the wealthy received under Trump. And I seriously doubt the Biden administration had "bestowed" inflation upon us. Come on, hlw49. Keep up with the real truth. The problem with people like you is that you hear crap from the right wing media and believe everything you hear.
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I always find it funny when people get all hissy about paying tax then critise the government for not doing what they though the government should .
The same people who go red faced with fury when they hear that they will pay 0.5% more tax or some one else will pay less tax.
Yet they are happy to pay $ 100 to a sports shoe maker for shoes they know the company paid $ 5.00 for landed .
So OK for a filthy rich family to take them for a 2,000 % mark up when there will be no social benefit whatsoever but a crime for the government to take 30% of their income .
Inflation is run by the central bank , an authority supposedly independent of the government of the day and inflation is there to protect the wealth of the rich so that the time valve of their assets grows faster than the economy and for that you can thank Wall St not the government of the day .
As for Afghanistan it caught out every government .
However it was the Trump administration that created the problem by agreeing to close the massive Bagrahm airport first and exit via the much smaller Kabhul airport .
The Taliban wanted this because they wanted to be free from massive attack from the air .
And the Afghan regulars knew they had no hope of curtailing the Taliban without the air support from the Bagrahm air base .
The trade off was a promise, which was honoured , not to attack US forces during the wind down which is why no US troops were killed in the last year while 14,000 Afghan regulars were killed which made it look like President Trump had secured a good deal for the USA media who only looked at the situation from a USA perspective ignoring the locals .
The big failure in Afghanistan was due to home land politics where all of the external forces wanted to reduce their own casualties because that made them look bad at home.
So they trained the locals to do the most dangerous work & supplied them with ground weapons while doing the less risky air support themselves .
They should have been training the Afghans to fly the air support as a top priority .
This would have done two things
1) given the Afghan regulars continuing air support to supress waves of Taliban troops surging across the country side to a level where ground troops could have defeated or repelled them
2) reduced the ill feelings of Afghani locals who got caught in the cross fire or accidentially targeted because it would have been fellow Afghanis doing it, not the hated US imperialist .
The other thing that sealed the fate was the same problem as we have world wide with politics.
The elected government over promised then under delivered every single day so the Afghan population was in a similar situation to the Palastinians .
The government they do not want will hopefully deliver the basic necessities that they need because the government they voted for was not doing it .
If you looked at the reports from people on the ground, and in particular the bleeding heart do gooders it was quite obvious that the population were not happy with the lack of facilities .
No gas, no electricity , no water , no food , no medical care , no roads , no police , no jobs the instant you leave the cities .
Farmers had no safety so like in Vietnam they were subject to Kabhul regulations by day & Taliban / warlord rules by night .
If you took the time to read up on the history of Afghinistan over the past 300 years you would have found that no foreign power had ever managed to install peace . let alone law & order over a very tribal country.
However the British were the most successful but even then they only controlled the major cities and a strip 3 miles either side of the major highways.
after that they let the warlords & tribal chiefs have their way .
The same people who go red faced with fury when they hear that they will pay 0.5% more tax or some one else will pay less tax.
Yet they are happy to pay $ 100 to a sports shoe maker for shoes they know the company paid $ 5.00 for landed .
So OK for a filthy rich family to take them for a 2,000 % mark up when there will be no social benefit whatsoever but a crime for the government to take 30% of their income .
Inflation is run by the central bank , an authority supposedly independent of the government of the day and inflation is there to protect the wealth of the rich so that the time valve of their assets grows faster than the economy and for that you can thank Wall St not the government of the day .
As for Afghanistan it caught out every government .
However it was the Trump administration that created the problem by agreeing to close the massive Bagrahm airport first and exit via the much smaller Kabhul airport .
The Taliban wanted this because they wanted to be free from massive attack from the air .
And the Afghan regulars knew they had no hope of curtailing the Taliban without the air support from the Bagrahm air base .
The trade off was a promise, which was honoured , not to attack US forces during the wind down which is why no US troops were killed in the last year while 14,000 Afghan regulars were killed which made it look like President Trump had secured a good deal for the USA media who only looked at the situation from a USA perspective ignoring the locals .
The big failure in Afghanistan was due to home land politics where all of the external forces wanted to reduce their own casualties because that made them look bad at home.
So they trained the locals to do the most dangerous work & supplied them with ground weapons while doing the less risky air support themselves .
They should have been training the Afghans to fly the air support as a top priority .
This would have done two things
1) given the Afghan regulars continuing air support to supress waves of Taliban troops surging across the country side to a level where ground troops could have defeated or repelled them
2) reduced the ill feelings of Afghani locals who got caught in the cross fire or accidentially targeted because it would have been fellow Afghanis doing it, not the hated US imperialist .
The other thing that sealed the fate was the same problem as we have world wide with politics.
The elected government over promised then under delivered every single day so the Afghan population was in a similar situation to the Palastinians .
The government they do not want will hopefully deliver the basic necessities that they need because the government they voted for was not doing it .
If you looked at the reports from people on the ground, and in particular the bleeding heart do gooders it was quite obvious that the population were not happy with the lack of facilities .
No gas, no electricity , no water , no food , no medical care , no roads , no police , no jobs the instant you leave the cities .
Farmers had no safety so like in Vietnam they were subject to Kabhul regulations by day & Taliban / warlord rules by night .
If you took the time to read up on the history of Afghinistan over the past 300 years you would have found that no foreign power had ever managed to install peace . let alone law & order over a very tribal country.
However the British were the most successful but even then they only controlled the major cities and a strip 3 miles either side of the major highways.
after that they let the warlords & tribal chiefs have their way .
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Pineapple
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Pineapple
I’ve stared at “Write your reply...” SEETHING and thinking about the intelligent replies and all of the others (“beauty is in the eye of the beholder”).
Besides the unrest that reared it’s ugly head while Donald was in office, IMO, he did no better or worse than the majority of his predecessors.
I just couldn’t past his disrespect for John McCain. Senator McCain, IMO, a PATRIOT (not necessarily a hero-a term used too freely). He didn’t choose to avoid his ‘conflict’ because of tennis elbow or some other debilitating condition.
Besides the unrest that reared it’s ugly head while Donald was in office, IMO, he did no better or worse than the majority of his predecessors.
I just couldn’t past his disrespect for John McCain. Senator McCain, IMO, a PATRIOT (not necessarily a hero-a term used too freely). He didn’t choose to avoid his ‘conflict’ because of tennis elbow or some other debilitating condition.
#75
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Pineapple
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Pineapple
$;#** I sent my response before I finished...typing this with my thumb. I voted for Tricky Dick, fan of the 1st Bush until “read my lips, no new taxes”.. they’re an evil necessity. .I’m not a die-hard party member of any party.
I do enjoy the lawnmower forum.
Thanks to all contributors. Just a grunt.
I do enjoy the lawnmower forum.
Thanks to all contributors. Just a grunt.
#76
PTmowerMech
My back finally got well enough to come to the shop for a couple of days. Not working. Packing and moving back to Arkansas. But this time, in a nice house, garage, carport and a work area around back All concrete. Texas, for some reason got greedy. Rent has gone sky high. Same as house prices. They got storage buildings they put in a bathroom, kitchen counter and used appliances and renting them for like $750 USD per month. I was looking at retiring in MX. It's a lot safer down there than our fake media portrays. But it's like anywhere, there's certain places no decent man goes.
But I decided I would just be another gringo down there who barely knew the language. No friends. No family. And $1000 miles away from anyone I knew.
So I chose Arkansas. Cheaper cost of living. Even with the state income tax being $2 more per hour than Texas, the cost of living is still cheaper. The house is a 3/2. Probably around 1800sq ft. Much more than I need. But I'm sure I'll fill it up soon enough. Maybe make a game room or something. One thing about this little town in Arkansas, not very many armchair politicians. They still have an old fashion way of never discussing politic or religion around friends. I like that.
That whole USD value is a spiderweb of lies and deceit. IMO, it's extremely over inflated. Here in the US, $10hr is a poverty wage. But just south of us, that same $10hr is an upper class wage. For $50 down there, you can buy a lot of groceries. More than enough to last a couple of weeks. I'm sure it won't be long before the $15hr will be a poverty wage here.
But I don't disagree with the minimum wage increase. It's only a symptom of the real problem. One that our liberals and so called conservatives will never admit to. Considering the fact that the Government and the Fed knows the government can never pay the Fed back, the Fed (Federal Reserve) still loans them money. Even though the US Congress has a constitutional authority to create our own (without interest). But they still borrow from the fed, with interest.
And they still have the gawl to lie to us and say there's a national debt. Sorry, but the last I I checked, if you didn't have to actually pay a loan off, it wasn't really a debt.
But none the less. Enough people still fall for those lies. And way too many others. Republicans, democrats and now Libertarians. Personally, I think the R & D's propped up the LP to keep people on a chain that's just a little longer than the R & D. Sort of give those R & D opposers something to look at. Because the LP doesn't seem very interested in winning elections.
My last R vote was for an actual conservative. But the R's threw him under the bus. I had high hopes of a democrat last election, Tulsi Gabbard. She was more of an old fashion liberal. Honest, and had a good military background. Didn't believe in spending more than they took in. I'll admit, I didn't care for a lot of what she supported. But thought she'd be the kind to negotiate the good. And expose the bad. But the DNC threw her under the bus.
LMAO.. So hear I am. A conspiracy theorist who don't even believe the conspiracies. But it's all good. Nothing I can do about it. I'm sure they won't miss my one little vote.
PTmowerMech
Hey PT good to hear from you again , hope you are well .
Like you I vote on the platform presented don't care which side is presenting it.
However down here I can vote for neither major party and have only done so 3 times in 50 years.
Unfortunately you lot only got 2 to choose from , the thieving liars party and the lieing thieves party .
What was that quote "no matter who you vote for a politican always wins "
Cause of death is always a problem because a death certificate can only have one when in reality it is usually compound unless you got shot .
In the case you mentioned I would suggest it was done to cover the backsides of the nursing home from possible negligance suit .
Covid could not be their fault but an assult from a staff member or other patient or lack of proper supervision resulting in a deadly fall is their fault and at the minimum requires the regulator to investigate the death .
I seriously doubt that it was done to deliberately inflate the number of Covid deaths particularly when reporting it would mean the facility then had to spend a lot of money on decontamination cleaning .
As for what we get dished up as "news" yes you are right, largely theatre to divert the attention of the public from what is actually going on .
Prime example is the Chinese filling in the submerged reefs like Subi to make "islands" .
Got thousands of hours of media and to keep the hairy chested Americans happy lots of money spent flying planes over the top & sailing warships past .
Meanwhile not a word on China's increase in their gold reservers, massive purchases of US debt , creation of their own oil futures market , and massive purchases of US currency all 3 of which can & will drastically affect the value of the US dollar long term .
Long term the Chinese are buying dollars which is keeping the dollar value high which makes US products expensive on the world market & Chinese products cheaper thus destroying the US manufacturing economy and drastically increasing the whole worlds dependence on China ( they are doing the same with the Euro as well ) .
My back finally got well enough to come to the shop for a couple of days. Not working. Packing and moving back to Arkansas. But this time, in a nice house, garage, carport and a work area around back All concrete. Texas, for some reason got greedy. Rent has gone sky high. Same as house prices. They got storage buildings they put in a bathroom, kitchen counter and used appliances and renting them for like $750 USD per month. I was looking at retiring in MX. It's a lot safer down there than our fake media portrays. But it's like anywhere, there's certain places no decent man goes.
But I decided I would just be another gringo down there who barely knew the language. No friends. No family. And $1000 miles away from anyone I knew.
So I chose Arkansas. Cheaper cost of living. Even with the state income tax being $2 more per hour than Texas, the cost of living is still cheaper. The house is a 3/2. Probably around 1800sq ft. Much more than I need. But I'm sure I'll fill it up soon enough. Maybe make a game room or something. One thing about this little town in Arkansas, not very many armchair politicians. They still have an old fashion way of never discussing politic or religion around friends. I like that.
That whole USD value is a spiderweb of lies and deceit. IMO, it's extremely over inflated. Here in the US, $10hr is a poverty wage. But just south of us, that same $10hr is an upper class wage. For $50 down there, you can buy a lot of groceries. More than enough to last a couple of weeks. I'm sure it won't be long before the $15hr will be a poverty wage here.
But I don't disagree with the minimum wage increase. It's only a symptom of the real problem. One that our liberals and so called conservatives will never admit to. Considering the fact that the Government and the Fed knows the government can never pay the Fed back, the Fed (Federal Reserve) still loans them money. Even though the US Congress has a constitutional authority to create our own (without interest). But they still borrow from the fed, with interest.
And they still have the gawl to lie to us and say there's a national debt. Sorry, but the last I I checked, if you didn't have to actually pay a loan off, it wasn't really a debt.
But none the less. Enough people still fall for those lies. And way too many others. Republicans, democrats and now Libertarians. Personally, I think the R & D's propped up the LP to keep people on a chain that's just a little longer than the R & D. Sort of give those R & D opposers something to look at. Because the LP doesn't seem very interested in winning elections.
My last R vote was for an actual conservative. But the R's threw him under the bus. I had high hopes of a democrat last election, Tulsi Gabbard. She was more of an old fashion liberal. Honest, and had a good military background. Didn't believe in spending more than they took in. I'll admit, I didn't care for a lot of what she supported. But thought she'd be the kind to negotiate the good. And expose the bad. But the DNC threw her under the bus.
LMAO.. So hear I am. A conspiracy theorist who don't even believe the conspiracies. But it's all good. Nothing I can do about it. I'm sure they won't miss my one little vote.
#77
PTmowerMech
Oh yeah. This forum is better than the political forum I've joined. They're mostly full of the woke crowd. Racist BLM members. And people who would probably die for Trump. You know, the ones that said Trump was sent from heaven.
I'd rather read how to fix something. Had it not been for the guys on this forum, honestly I think I would've been homeless. I was forced out of trucking because of health problems. I got into this with only some common sense and the help of these guys. 4 or 5 years later, there's a lot about small engines and mowers that I don't have to look up or ask.
@bertsmobile1 Actually, I stopped posting because I wanted y'all to think I was so good, I didn't have to ask questions any more. LOL.....
I'm kidding.
PTmowerMech
$;#** I sent my response before I finished...typing this with my thumb. I voted for Tricky Dick, fan of the 1st Bush until “read my lips, no new taxes”.. they’re an evil necessity. .I’m not a die-hard party member of any party.
I do enjoy the lawnmower forum.
Thanks to all contributors. Just a grunt.
Oh yeah. This forum is better than the political forum I've joined. They're mostly full of the woke crowd. Racist BLM members. And people who would probably die for Trump. You know, the ones that said Trump was sent from heaven.
I'd rather read how to fix something. Had it not been for the guys on this forum, honestly I think I would've been homeless. I was forced out of trucking because of health problems. I got into this with only some common sense and the help of these guys. 4 or 5 years later, there's a lot about small engines and mowers that I don't have to look up or ask.
@bertsmobile1 Actually, I stopped posting because I wanted y'all to think I was so good, I didn't have to ask questions any more. LOL.....
I'm kidding.
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Biggest group to die of the virus is not the elderly (who have a 75% or greater survival rate) but the obese. Obesity is the single, worst risk anyone can put themselves at. 40 percent of Americans are obese and 99% of Americans are overweight.
With obesity comes diabetes, which is also epidemic in America. Covid loves those with diabetes.
Being a lung illness, one could expect smokers to be at risk and they are.
Finally, the elderly (> 75% survival rate).
So.....what's the advice? It's not "go on a diet America, exercise, lose weight, reverse and prevent diabetes, stop smoking."
Instead it's "stay home, don't work or even leave your house, take experimental drugs, and wear a mask for the rest of your life."
It's not about your health, clearly not.
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With obesity comes diabetes, which is also epidemic in America. Covid loves those with diabetes.
Being a lung illness, one could expect smokers to be at risk and they are.
Finally, the elderly (> 75% survival rate).
So.....what's the advice? It's not "go on a diet America, exercise, lose weight, reverse and prevent diabetes, stop smoking."
Instead it's "stay home, don't work or even leave your house, take experimental drugs, and wear a mask for the rest of your life."
It's not about your health, clearly not.
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bertsmobile1
Covid has just about bankrupted me
I can fix mowers, but only if the customer delivers them.
Most of my contractors can not work so are doing their own repairs
Two of them who did not qualify for aid have just had serious single vehicle collisions in the rain we had a couple of days ago .
Almost none of my domestic customers have a trailer.
And the inept pollies who have never worked so have no concept of reality keep on making idiot decisions.
I have black friends who live in Wilcannia a totally black town that is being devistated by Covid.
The deputy Prime Minister gave them a blast because it was all their own fault because of a "big" illegal funeral ( they call it sorry business ) .
When it was pointed out that the funeral was not only legal but approved by the government authorities who wrote travel permits for many of them , he had to make a hasty 1/2 hearted appology . About 200 people came into town for the funeral which had a normal population of around 500, 1 food store & 1 take away at the fuel station.
Then he derided them for not isolating which is a bit hard when you have 2 or 3 families of 4 to 8 living in each house because the housing service was defunded .
Next they got abused for not getting tested in the pop up drive through test clinic.
That is a bit difficult when less than 5% of the population own motor vehicles and most of those are tray tops so only hold 2 or 3 people .
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bertsmobile1
Well I hope it all goes well.Oh yeah. This forum is better than the political forum I've joined. They're mostly full of the woke crowd. Racist BLM members. And people who would probably die for Trump. You know, the ones that said Trump was sent from heaven.
I'd rather read how to fix something. Had it not been for the guys on this forum, honestly I think I would've been homeless. I was forced out of trucking because of health problems. I got into this with only some common sense and the help of these guys. 4 or 5 years later, there's a lot about small engines and mowers that I don't have to look up or ask.
@bertsmobile1 Actually, I stopped posting because I wanted y'all to think I was so good, I didn't have to ask questions any more. LOL.....
I'm kidding.
Covid has just about bankrupted me
I can fix mowers, but only if the customer delivers them.
Most of my contractors can not work so are doing their own repairs
Two of them who did not qualify for aid have just had serious single vehicle collisions in the rain we had a couple of days ago .
Almost none of my domestic customers have a trailer.
And the inept pollies who have never worked so have no concept of reality keep on making idiot decisions.
I have black friends who live in Wilcannia a totally black town that is being devistated by Covid.
The deputy Prime Minister gave them a blast because it was all their own fault because of a "big" illegal funeral ( they call it sorry business ) .
When it was pointed out that the funeral was not only legal but approved by the government authorities who wrote travel permits for many of them , he had to make a hasty 1/2 hearted appology . About 200 people came into town for the funeral which had a normal population of around 500, 1 food store & 1 take away at the fuel station.
Then he derided them for not isolating which is a bit hard when you have 2 or 3 families of 4 to 8 living in each house because the housing service was defunded .
Next they got abused for not getting tested in the pop up drive through test clinic.
That is a bit difficult when less than 5% of the population own motor vehicles and most of those are tray tops so only hold 2 or 3 people .
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MowManWV
Covid is not "devastating anyone," the lockdowns are.
Odd how there is a "moratorium" on evictions and paying rent, but no moratorium on landlords paying property taxes and paying the loans they took out to buy the house their renters are not paying to live in.
Very odd how McDonald's is "essential" but the small restaurant owned by the family down the street was shut down by government.
Odd how Walmart, pharma companies, Amazon, McDonald's, etc. have made the most money they ever have in all of human history while 400,000+ small business in America are now bankrupt and will never reopen.
Odd how "masks are so effective there were no flu cases last year!" but not so effective that there were 660K Covid deaths (in USA) last year.
Odd how a local man was literally decapitated in a motorcycle crash but his death certificate lists "Covid death." Odd how I know people whose family members died of strokes and their death certificates say the same thing. Odd how my niece, a hospital nurse, said "if my hospital can possibly---any way they can---list a death as 'Covid' they do.
Odd how the CDC changed the definition of the word "vaccine."
Odd how the PCR test cannot differentiate between Covid and the flu but can differentiate mutations of Covid.
Odd how the very pharma companies that were sued due to the addiction of drugs like Oxycontin cannot be sued for side effects with these "vaccines."
Very odd how governors will reward taking experimental drugs with contests to win trucks, guns, lifetime hunting licenses, college tuition, and million dollar awards but not reward anyone that can prove they quit smoking, reversed their diabetes, or lost 100 pounds.
Odd how leaked CDC emails show they based "lockdown recommendations" on orders from the teachers unions.
Just coincidences!
Now go home, watch TV, play on your phones, do not exercise or play outside, wear that mask whose weave is thousands of times bigger than the size of the virus itself, take that booster, and still get Covid, still transmit Covid,
Odd how there is a "moratorium" on evictions and paying rent, but no moratorium on landlords paying property taxes and paying the loans they took out to buy the house their renters are not paying to live in.
Very odd how McDonald's is "essential" but the small restaurant owned by the family down the street was shut down by government.
Odd how Walmart, pharma companies, Amazon, McDonald's, etc. have made the most money they ever have in all of human history while 400,000+ small business in America are now bankrupt and will never reopen.
Odd how "masks are so effective there were no flu cases last year!" but not so effective that there were 660K Covid deaths (in USA) last year.
Odd how a local man was literally decapitated in a motorcycle crash but his death certificate lists "Covid death." Odd how I know people whose family members died of strokes and their death certificates say the same thing. Odd how my niece, a hospital nurse, said "if my hospital can possibly---any way they can---list a death as 'Covid' they do.
Odd how the CDC changed the definition of the word "vaccine."
Odd how the PCR test cannot differentiate between Covid and the flu but can differentiate mutations of Covid.
Odd how the very pharma companies that were sued due to the addiction of drugs like Oxycontin cannot be sued for side effects with these "vaccines."
Very odd how governors will reward taking experimental drugs with contests to win trucks, guns, lifetime hunting licenses, college tuition, and million dollar awards but not reward anyone that can prove they quit smoking, reversed their diabetes, or lost 100 pounds.
Odd how leaked CDC emails show they based "lockdown recommendations" on orders from the teachers unions.
Just coincidences!
Now go home, watch TV, play on your phones, do not exercise or play outside, wear that mask whose weave is thousands of times bigger than the size of the virus itself, take that booster, and still get Covid, still transmit Covid,
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BohoRex
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BohoRex
I find it curious that you assign Democrats to that thought line. Here in Texas - its the Republicans that are screaming about it all being a scam and are staunchly anti-vaxx - and espouse the conspiracy theories. I wonder where the regional parts of the US switch and flop on who is anti-vaxx and covid conspiracy theories.... ?Was the radio guy vaccinated?
Or was he one of those Democrats that think covid is a political joke slash scam?
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slomo
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slomo
Anti vax is silly. The thing is free to everyone. Guess if you want to become bankrupt with hospital bills and possibly die then don't get the vax. Amazing people think covid is a hoax. People die from that junk.I find it curious that you assign Democrats to that thought line. Here in Texas - its the Republicans that are screaming about it all being a scam and are staunchly anti-vaxx - and espouse the conspiracy theories. I wonder where the regional parts of the US switch and flop on who is anti-vaxx and covid conspiracy theories.... ?
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slomo
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slomo
Does everyone know who owns the lab in China where covid leaked from? And who would stand the chance to make millions if not billions from selling covid supplies like alcohol, masks and ventilators? Who owns huge portions of every vaccine known to man? Even the ones that were removed for testing? And who got/gets money for testing of these vaccines? The man's name is Bill Gates of Microsoft.
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PTmowerMech
I wouldn't say it's silly. None of us know what's really in it. There's so much conflicting information about it. Obviously, there's a lot of BS info.
With so many people who get Covid and don't even know they got it. My brother had covid, but didn't know until he was tested. Someone at his job got it, so everyone was tested. He stayed away from folks for 10 days and never had a fever. Never had any breathing problems. And he's still not vaccinated.
We were all told that if you get it and survive, then your body has the antibodies to fight it even better then next time you get it. Which is EXACTLY what the vaccines are supposed to do.
PTmowerMech
Anti vax is silly. The thing is free to everyone. Guess if you want to become bankrupt with hospital bills and possibly die then don't get the vax. Amazing people think covid is a hoax. People die from that junk.
I wouldn't say it's silly. None of us know what's really in it. There's so much conflicting information about it. Obviously, there's a lot of BS info.
With so many people who get Covid and don't even know they got it. My brother had covid, but didn't know until he was tested. Someone at his job got it, so everyone was tested. He stayed away from folks for 10 days and never had a fever. Never had any breathing problems. And he's still not vaccinated.
We were all told that if you get it and survive, then your body has the antibodies to fight it even better then next time you get it. Which is EXACTLY what the vaccines are supposed to do.
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MowManWV
For a virus with a death rate of literally 0.1 percent..........ya.......definitely need to destroy people's economic lives over that one!
My brother died this week. I got an offer of some $9,000 dollars from the funeral director if my sister-in-law will sign a document stating "he died of Covid." I doubt she will as they are not hurting for money and my brother was staunch in his integrity. Question: do you really believe there have been 600K deaths from Covid?
Yes people die from Covid but not that much worse than the flu. Some 250,000 Americans die every year from heart disease. When is the "mandate" coming to lockdown high fructose corn syrup and cigarettes? When the mandate to exercise daily and stop eating junkfood? Don't you care about people?
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MowManWV
"Two things can be true at once" (quoting Ben Shapiro). The virus can be real and it can be used for all manner of power grab, elimination of rivals, and economic gain. I read where New Zealand is locking down again for all of one new case. I seem to recall the lockdowns not about "preventing new cases" but "preventing hospitals from being over run." No one talks about deaths anymore.......it's now just "too many new cases." Surely those in power wouldn't modify the terms of the agreement........Anti vax is silly. The thing is free to everyone. Guess if you want to become bankrupt with hospital bills and possibly die then don't get the vax. Amazing people think covid is a hoax. People die from that junk.
For a virus with a death rate of literally 0.1 percent..........ya.......definitely need to destroy people's economic lives over that one!
My brother died this week. I got an offer of some $9,000 dollars from the funeral director if my sister-in-law will sign a document stating "he died of Covid." I doubt she will as they are not hurting for money and my brother was staunch in his integrity. Question: do you really believe there have been 600K deaths from Covid?
Yes people die from Covid but not that much worse than the flu. Some 250,000 Americans die every year from heart disease. When is the "mandate" coming to lockdown high fructose corn syrup and cigarettes? When the mandate to exercise daily and stop eating junkfood? Don't you care about people?
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slomo
Funny how the media doesn't report with the covid deaths, the people, with other conditions like diabetes and heart problems getting covid and THAT killing them. Or are all of these deaths, healthy people that run marathons getting covid only and die?
Most of America is fat and obese. Lots of diabetes and many other illnesses out there.
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slomo
You are all wrong. Covid is a world wide pandemic. It's killing us all off one by one. Don't you watch CNN?"Two things can be true at once" (quoting Ben Shapiro). The virus can be real and it can be used for all manner of power grab, elimination of rivals, and economic gain. I read where New Zealand is locking down again for all of one new case. I seem to recall the lockdowns not about "preventing new cases" but "preventing hospitals from being over run." No one talks about deaths anymore.......it's now just "too many new cases." Surely those in power wouldn't modify the terms of the agreement........
For a virus with a death rate of literally 0.1 percent..........ya.......definitely need to destroy people's economic lives over that one!
My brother died this week. I got an offer of some $9,000 dollars from the funeral director if my sister-in-law will sign a document stating "he died of Covid." I doubt she will as they are not hurting for money and my brother was staunch in his integrity. Question: do you really believe there have been 600K deaths from Covid?
Yes people die from Covid but not that much worse than the flu. Some 250,000 Americans die every year from heart disease. When is the "mandate" coming to lockdown high fructose corn syrup and cigarettes? When the mandate to exercise daily and stop eating junkfood? Don't you care about people?
Funny how the media doesn't report with the covid deaths, the people, with other conditions like diabetes and heart problems getting covid and THAT killing them. Or are all of these deaths, healthy people that run marathons getting covid only and die?
Most of America is fat and obese. Lots of diabetes and many other illnesses out there.
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MowManWV
It is simply asinine to take an experimental drug for a virus one has already recovered from and by default, has immunity to.
Absent an antibody test there is no way to be certain your brother had Covid.......and there is an admitted 33% false positive on the PCR test.
Since I was 18 I have had a rule: "no new drugs or vaccines until those have been in general use for at least a year." And that's with the normal 10 year+ clinical trials period which these drugs have not had. Especially not doing that for a disease with a 0.1 percent chance of killing me.
If it's as contagious as they swear it is, I've already had it and won't get it again or I've been exposed and simply didn't get it.
It's certainly not that deadly or my state, which leads the nation in obesity and cigarette smoking, would have a death toll much higher than the 3,000 the governor is claiming. As unhealthy as people are around here 3K is the best they can do?
I'll continue with my increased daily dose of Vit. C, D3, zinc, and continued daily exercise and healthy eating. The vaxxers are the "clinical trials" while I remain in "the control group." We'll see what's what in say, 5 years.
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MowManWV
I wouldn't say it's silly. None of us know what's really in it. There's so much conflicting information about it. Obviously, there's a lot of BS info.
With so many people who get Covid and don't even know they got it. My brother had covid, but didn't know until he was tested. Someone at his job got it, so everyone was tested. He stayed away from folks for 10 days and never had a fever. Never had any breathing problems. And he's still not vaccinated.
We were all told that if you get it and survive, then your body has the antibodies to fight it even better then next time you get it. Which is EXACTLY what the vaccines are supposed to do.
It is simply asinine to take an experimental drug for a virus one has already recovered from and by default, has immunity to.
Absent an antibody test there is no way to be certain your brother had Covid.......and there is an admitted 33% false positive on the PCR test.
Since I was 18 I have had a rule: "no new drugs or vaccines until those have been in general use for at least a year." And that's with the normal 10 year+ clinical trials period which these drugs have not had. Especially not doing that for a disease with a 0.1 percent chance of killing me.
If it's as contagious as they swear it is, I've already had it and won't get it again or I've been exposed and simply didn't get it.
It's certainly not that deadly or my state, which leads the nation in obesity and cigarette smoking, would have a death toll much higher than the 3,000 the governor is claiming. As unhealthy as people are around here 3K is the best they can do?
I'll continue with my increased daily dose of Vit. C, D3, zinc, and continued daily exercise and healthy eating. The vaxxers are the "clinical trials" while I remain in "the control group." We'll see what's what in say, 5 years.
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PTmowerMech
To each his own. What ever works for each individual, is THE best way to live. I don't knock people for getting it, or not. I got mine because I was planning on visiting MX. Now that I'm not going, I'm second guessing getting the 2nd shot.
PTmowerMech
It is simply asinine to take an experimental drug for a virus one has already recovered from and by default, has immunity to.
Absent an antibody test there is no way to be certain your brother had Covid.......and there is an admitted 33% false positive on the PCR test.
Since I was 18 I have had a rule: "no new drugs or vaccines until those have been in general use for at least a year." And that's with the normal 10 year+ clinical trials period which these drugs have not had. Especially not doing that for a disease with a 0.1 percent chance of killing me.
If it's as contagious as they swear it is, I've already had it and won't get it again or I've been exposed and simply didn't get it.
It's certainly not that deadly or my state, which leads the nation in obesity and cigarette smoking, would have a death toll much higher than the 3,000 the governor is claiming. As unhealthy as people are around here 3K is the best they can do?
I'll continue with my increased daily dose of Vit. C, D3, zinc, and continued daily exercise and healthy eating. The vaxxers are the "clinical trials" while I remain in "the control group." We'll see what's what in say, 5 years.
To each his own. What ever works for each individual, is THE best way to live. I don't knock people for getting it, or not. I got mine because I was planning on visiting MX. Now that I'm not going, I'm second guessing getting the 2nd shot.
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4getgto
You stand to make a lot .more than 9k.
That funeral director should be arrested..
4getgto
Did you report this to the authorities ??"Two things can be true at once" (quoting Ben Shapiro). The virus can be real and it can be used for all manner of power grab, elimination of rivals, and economic gain. I read where New Zealand is locking down again for all of one new case. I seem to recall the lockdowns not about "preventing new cases" but "preventing hospitals from being over run."
My brother died this week. I got an offer of some $9,000 dollars from the funeral director if my sister-in-law will sign a document stating "he died of Covid." I doubt she will as they are not hurting for money and my brother was staunch in his integrity. Question: do you really believe there have been 600K deaths from Covid?
You stand to make a lot .more than 9k.
That funeral director should be arrested..
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bertsmobile1
The recorded cause of death comes off the death certificate after that has been signed then it does not matter what is said done or written , it won't change the statistics .
The funeral parlour is obviously gaming the system for some sort of government benefit and if you REALLY BELIEVE you are paying too much tax then report them for benefit fraud .
The death rate is not a problem apart from finding body space
It is the hospitalization rate that has governments in a panic because it can & has overwhelmed just about every medical system on the planet.
But sensationalist media just talk about DEATH because DEATH scares people , and in particular scares people with a lot to loose.
The PCR test is over 90% accurate
where the false positives come in is people who have been exposed to viral packets but not been infected.
We are all just that little bit different .
1 packet could have me in an ICU bed on a respirator and 1000 packets could pass strait through you, that is the way of viral infections .
Secondly with any type of quality control and virus testing is a type of quality control, you need to use the most sensitive test you can to make sure you are not approving defective.
SO better to have a few uninfected people isolating than a single sick person out there spreading the infection.
So not proof of a conspiracy, sound medical practice which you are either unaware of or incapable of objective thinking about .
If you get the alpha mutation and recover then you have a level of resisance to the ALPHA variant, you can still catch the Beta, Gmma, Kappa, Delta etc etc etc mutations.
Very early on the US navy had several cases of sailors getting a second infection, just the same as you can get the flu several times in a single season.
We know exactly what it is , and there is no conflicting INFORMATION , just INFORMATION that gets updated & expanded upon
What is CONFLICTING is the OPINIONS which get manipulated by the presenter for their own gain or according to their idology .
I subscribe to several scientific journals and that information has been rock solid.
Reporters who know everything about creating mass panic & anxiety pull selected bits out of the information and report just that .
Then POLITICAL advisers put spin on it so it suddenly becomes a case of left vs right rather than fact vs fiction.
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bertsmobile1
YESMy brother died this week. I got an offer of some $9,000 dollars from the funeral director if my sister-in-law will sign a document stating "he died of Covid." I doubt she will as they are not hurting for money and my brother was staunch in his integrity. Question: do you really believe there have been 600K deaths from Covid?
The recorded cause of death comes off the death certificate after that has been signed then it does not matter what is said done or written , it won't change the statistics .
The funeral parlour is obviously gaming the system for some sort of government benefit and if you REALLY BELIEVE you are paying too much tax then report them for benefit fraud .
This shows you have been reading the wrong information and are not thinking just reacting hystericallyFor a virus with a death rate of literally 0.1 percent..........ya.......definitely need to destroy people's economic lives over that one!
The death rate is not a problem apart from finding body space
It is the hospitalization rate that has governments in a panic because it can & has overwhelmed just about every medical system on the planet.
But sensationalist media just talk about DEATH because DEATH scares people , and in particular scares people with a lot to loose.
TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE B S .Absent an antibody test there is no way to be certain your brother had Covid.......and there is an admitted 33% false positive on the PCR test.
The PCR test is over 90% accurate
where the false positives come in is people who have been exposed to viral packets but not been infected.
We are all just that little bit different .
1 packet could have me in an ICU bed on a respirator and 1000 packets could pass strait through you, that is the way of viral infections .
Secondly with any type of quality control and virus testing is a type of quality control, you need to use the most sensitive test you can to make sure you are not approving defective.
SO better to have a few uninfected people isolating than a single sick person out there spreading the infection.
So not proof of a conspiracy, sound medical practice which you are either unaware of or incapable of objective thinking about .
Wrong againIf it's as contagious as they swear it is, I've already had it and won't get it again or I've been exposed and simply didn't get it.
If you get the alpha mutation and recover then you have a level of resisance to the ALPHA variant, you can still catch the Beta, Gmma, Kappa, Delta etc etc etc mutations.
Very early on the US navy had several cases of sailors getting a second infection, just the same as you can get the flu several times in a single season.
WRONGI wouldn't say it's silly. None of us know what's really in it. There's so much conflicting information about it. Obviously, there's a lot of BS info.
We know exactly what it is , and there is no conflicting INFORMATION , just INFORMATION that gets updated & expanded upon
What is CONFLICTING is the OPINIONS which get manipulated by the presenter for their own gain or according to their idology .
I subscribe to several scientific journals and that information has been rock solid.
Reporters who know everything about creating mass panic & anxiety pull selected bits out of the information and report just that .
Then POLITICAL advisers put spin on it so it suddenly becomes a case of left vs right rather than fact vs fiction.
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bertsmobile1
Can you afford 10 days in an ICU bed ?
And I think being dead is a bit devistating to both the deceased and their family
Then there is what is being termed "Long Covid" which has symptoms similar to Ross River Fever that like Ross River Fever come & go
Proper infection hygine ( masks , washing , isolation ) have reduced the reported occurance of flu.
If we all isolated every time we thought we had been infected with a cold or flu then there would be no cold or flu because the viruses can only be spread by infected people .
If every single person stayed isolated for 21 days then the cold , flue, and even covid would die out completely.
But we make individual selfish decisions to take a hand full of pills to reduce the effect of the symptoms then go off to work for our own personal gain without a milli second of thought about the consequences of our actions to others who we will infect .
Criminal offence for writing a false death certificate .
DNA testing is what differentiates between the various strains of Covid and a PCR can differentiate between a cold & Covid it just takes longer to do and costs more.
When you are trying to rush test results better to record a false + than miss one
Time was critical so the bulk of the work was done on computer simulations.
Thus no phase 4 testing because we did not have time to do 12, 18, 24, 36 & 48 month clinical trials before introduction .
However they are being done as we are having this conversation but the final results will not be available till the testing has finished and been evaluated and that will be around 2030
No one holds you down and shoves 20 big macks down your gob while they stuff a fag in both nostrels .
Down here the government dose subsidize quit smoking programes and things like nicotine patches .
They also pay for eating dissorder research and metal health treatments for obease people .
So perhaps a failing of your government and in particularly a big failure of the population to act in the public good so they need indusements .
I would hate to be on the advisory panel as every lobbyist in the country would be beating them senseless .
SO before you can draw any conclusions you need to see ALL of the lobying not just the ones that support your point of view .
Unfortunately we also proved that vaccines are necessary because the quarrentine did not work.
We had successfully erradicated Covid from the entire country till lax quarrentine allowed it to get in again.
Right now we are the perfect experiment .
One filthy disease ridden American pilot ( DHL Freighter ) introduced the USA Delta variant into NSW and just about every case can be tracked back to him
You talked about "conspiracies" to protect big pharma well that works 2 ways
Should Australia sue DHL for all of the testing , deaths, hospital costs that their infected pilot caused ?
Should Australia sue the USA for allowing this disease ridden typhoid mary fly to australia ?
Should he go to gaol for 92 cases of neglegence causing bodily harm & death or be put up against a wall & shot ?
Rules are made on the basis of the best information available at the time .
The easiest to determine is always the first to be found
And droplets are easy to find , easy to test & a know mechanism for the spread of respiratory viruses .
Airesols are a lot more difficult to find and even more difficult to test so it was no surprise to people who can think for themselves ( rather than adopting whose ever opinions suit their particular preformed agendas ) that they were confirmed as a transportion mechanism quite some long time latter.
Twenty years ago we could pay a bunch of university students to stand in a long hallway while a know infected person was on a treadmill at the other end then see who got infected & who did not get infected . This generates absolute results , but ethics prevents doing this now days and ambulance chasers happily sue for damages should any of the paid volunteers get seriously affected by the experiment .
Thus controlled experiments are near impossible to do and even harder to confirm by repeating which is the scientific norm.
So the best we can do is CSI type evaluation of known controlled situations like on board a navy ship , inside a hospital / nursing home etc etc .
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bertsmobile1
Really ?Covid is not "devastating anyone," the lockdowns are.
Can you afford 10 days in an ICU bed ?
And I think being dead is a bit devistating to both the deceased and their family
Then there is what is being termed "Long Covid" which has symptoms similar to Ross River Fever that like Ross River Fever come & go
Bad government policyOdd how there is a "moratorium" on evictions and paying rent, but no moratorium on landlords paying property taxes and paying the loans they took out to buy the house their renters are not paying to live in.
Down here all are the same, take away onlyVery odd how McDonald's is "essential" but the small restaurant owned by the family down the street was shut down by government.
Again bad policy and a diversion of discressionary spending also selective data on your part, gun & ammo sales have gone through the roof, supermarket spending has gone through the roofOdd how Walmart, pharma companies, Amazon, McDonald's, etc. have made the most money they ever have in all of human history while 400,000+ small business in America are now bankrupt and will never reopen.
A small bit of truth extrapolated into BSOdd how "masks are so effective there were no flu cases last year!" but not so effective that there were 660K Covid deaths (in USA) last year.
Proper infection hygine ( masks , washing , isolation ) have reduced the reported occurance of flu.
If we all isolated every time we thought we had been infected with a cold or flu then there would be no cold or flu because the viruses can only be spread by infected people .
If every single person stayed isolated for 21 days then the cold , flue, and even covid would die out completely.
But we make individual selfish decisions to take a hand full of pills to reduce the effect of the symptoms then go off to work for our own personal gain without a milli second of thought about the consequences of our actions to others who we will infect .
You got first hand proof of that ? or did it come off Face Book ?Odd how a local man was literally decapitated in a motorcycle crash but his death certificate lists "Covid death." Odd how I know people whose family members died of strokes and their death certificates say the same thing. Odd how my niece, a hospital nurse, said "if my hospital can possibly---any way they can---list a death as 'Covid' they do.
Criminal offence for writing a false death certificate .
They do that all the time just usually it is not considered to be news worth so the lazy uninformed stay that wayOdd how the CDC changed the definition of the word "vaccine."
Wrong againOdd how the PCR test cannot differentiate between Covid and the flu but can differentiate mutations of Covid.
DNA testing is what differentiates between the various strains of Covid and a PCR can differentiate between a cold & Covid it just takes longer to do and costs more.
When you are trying to rush test results better to record a false + than miss one
Not add at allOdd how the very pharma companies that were sued due to the addiction of drugs like Oxycontin cannot be sued for side effects with these "vaccines."
Time was critical so the bulk of the work was done on computer simulations.
Thus no phase 4 testing because we did not have time to do 12, 18, 24, 36 & 48 month clinical trials before introduction .
However they are being done as we are having this conversation but the final results will not be available till the testing has finished and been evaluated and that will be around 2030
Smoking and being fat are discressionary .Very odd how governors will reward taking experimental drugs with contests to win trucks, guns, lifetime hunting licenses, college tuition, and million dollar awards but not reward anyone that can prove they quit smoking, reversed their diabetes, or lost 100 pounds.
No one holds you down and shoves 20 big macks down your gob while they stuff a fag in both nostrels .
Down here the government dose subsidize quit smoking programes and things like nicotine patches .
They also pay for eating dissorder research and metal health treatments for obease people .
So perhaps a failing of your government and in particularly a big failure of the population to act in the public good so they need indusements .
Decisions are made after consultation with ALL concerned parties and no one party can ORDER the CDC to make any findings .Odd how leaked CDC emails show they based "lockdown recommendations" on orders from the teachers unions.
I would hate to be on the advisory panel as every lobbyist in the country would be beating them senseless .
SO before you can draw any conclusions you need to see ALL of the lobying not just the ones that support your point of view .
Australia, New Zealand, Korea, Tiawan & Singapore all proved that isolation , hygine , masks & testing works.Just coincidences!
Now go home, watch TV, play on your phones, do not exercise or play outside, wear that mask whose weave is thousands of times bigger than the size of the virus itself, take that booster, and still get Covid, still transmit Covid, and still die from Covid.
Unfortunately we also proved that vaccines are necessary because the quarrentine did not work.
We had successfully erradicated Covid from the entire country till lax quarrentine allowed it to get in again.
Right now we are the perfect experiment .
One filthy disease ridden American pilot ( DHL Freighter ) introduced the USA Delta variant into NSW and just about every case can be tracked back to him
You talked about "conspiracies" to protect big pharma well that works 2 ways
Should Australia sue DHL for all of the testing , deaths, hospital costs that their infected pilot caused ?
Should Australia sue the USA for allowing this disease ridden typhoid mary fly to australia ?
Should he go to gaol for 92 cases of neglegence causing bodily harm & death or be put up against a wall & shot ?
Rules are made on the basis of the best information available at the time .
The easiest to determine is always the first to be found
And droplets are easy to find , easy to test & a know mechanism for the spread of respiratory viruses .
Airesols are a lot more difficult to find and even more difficult to test so it was no surprise to people who can think for themselves ( rather than adopting whose ever opinions suit their particular preformed agendas ) that they were confirmed as a transportion mechanism quite some long time latter.
Twenty years ago we could pay a bunch of university students to stand in a long hallway while a know infected person was on a treadmill at the other end then see who got infected & who did not get infected . This generates absolute results , but ethics prevents doing this now days and ambulance chasers happily sue for damages should any of the paid volunteers get seriously affected by the experiment .
Thus controlled experiments are near impossible to do and even harder to confirm by repeating which is the scientific norm.
So the best we can do is CSI type evaluation of known controlled situations like on board a navy ship , inside a hospital / nursing home etc etc .
#92
StarTech
StarTech
Personally I prefer to avoid direct contact the human race as much as I can. Most are disease carriers. The more I avoid them the healthier I stay. If I could I would live on a deserted island.
Now there I said it.
Now there I said it.
#93
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hlw49
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hlw49
We have term limits if the voters would be smart enough to use them. U don't think for a minute Pelosi and the rest of the swamp are going to give up their gravy train, Then she couldn't buy he expensive ice cream and fly back and forth to California on our dime. As Ernest T Worrell ( Jim Varney) said WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Term Limits in the Congress would fix alot of issues i think....
#94
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MowManWV
It reminds me of a guy I spoke with yesterday. Older guy, goes to the gym daily.
I saw him there yesterday, asked him what he did for exercise since I haven't seen him do any cardio in a while.
"I just do the machines." Me: "oh? No more cardio?"
Him: "Well I'm afraid if I breathe too hard I'll catch the virus."
Me: "Didn't you have both shots?"
Him: "Yes."
MENTAL ILLNESS BUT ON A MASSIVE SCALE.
I'll try to unpack your reply later.
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MowManWV
I cracked up reading this reply! I have laughed so much I'm not sure where to begin on the reply.YES
The recorded cause of death comes off the death certificate after that has been signed then it does not matter what is said done or written , it won't change the statistics .
The funeral parlour is obviously gaming the system for some sort of government benefit and if you REALLY BELIEVE you are paying too much tax then report them for benefit fraud .
This shows you have been reading the wrong information and are not thinking just reacting hysterically
The death rate is not a problem apart from finding body space
It is the hospitalization rate that has governments in a panic because it can & has overwhelmed just about every medical system on the planet.
But sensationalist media just talk about DEATH because DEATH scares people , and in particular scares people with a lot to loose.
TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE B S .
The PCR test is over 90% accurate
where the false positives come in is people who have been exposed to viral packets but not been infected.
We are all just that little bit different .
1 packet could have me in an ICU bed on a respirator and 1000 packets could pass strait through you, that is the way of viral infections .
Secondly with any type of quality control and virus testing is a type of quality control, you need to use the most sensitive test you can to make sure you are not approving defective.
SO better to have a few uninfected people isolating than a single sick person out there spreading the infection.
So not proof of a conspiracy, sound medical practice which you are either unaware of or incapable of objective thinking about .
Wrong again
If you get the alpha mutation and recover then you have a level of resisance to the ALPHA variant, you can still catch the Beta, Gmma, Kappa, Delta etc etc etc mutations.
Very early on the US navy had several cases of sailors getting a second infection, just the same as you can get the flu several times in a single season.
WRONG
We know exactly what it is , and there is no conflicting INFORMATION , just INFORMATION that gets updated & expanded upon
What is CONFLICTING is the OPINIONS which get manipulated by the presenter for their own gain or according to their idology .
I subscribe to several scientific journals and that information has been rock solid.
Reporters who know everything about creating mass panic & anxiety pull selected bits out of the information and report just that .
Then POLITICAL advisers put spin on it so it suddenly becomes a case of left vs right rather than fact vs fiction.
It reminds me of a guy I spoke with yesterday. Older guy, goes to the gym daily.
I saw him there yesterday, asked him what he did for exercise since I haven't seen him do any cardio in a while.
"I just do the machines." Me: "oh? No more cardio?"
Him: "Well I'm afraid if I breathe too hard I'll catch the virus."
Me: "Didn't you have both shots?"
Him: "Yes."
MENTAL ILLNESS BUT ON A MASSIVE SCALE.
I'll try to unpack your reply later.
#95
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MowManWV
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MowManWV
Personally I prefer to avoid direct contact the human race as much as I can. Most are disease carriers. The more I avoid them the healthier I stay. If I could I would live on a deserted island.
Now there I said it.
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#96
PTmowerMech
I'm sort of the same way. But not so much for disease purposes. Just a personal space thing. Shaking hands, I'll do it, if someone sticks out their hands. But If I do it first, it's a fist bump. Asians and their head bow thing is a good thing, I think. It shows respect.
But that's just me.
I'm weird.
PTmowerMech
Personally I prefer to avoid direct contact the human race as much as I can. Most are disease carriers. The more I avoid them the healthier I stay. If I could I would live on a deserted island.
Now there I said it.
I'm sort of the same way. But not so much for disease purposes. Just a personal space thing. Shaking hands, I'll do it, if someone sticks out their hands. But If I do it first, it's a fist bump. Asians and their head bow thing is a good thing, I think. It shows respect.
But that's just me.
I'm weird.
#97
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MSJim
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MSJim
Be careful with those online calculators!Should have at least gotten the U.S. citizens out before you pull out U.S. Troops.
I read the Afghan military *had* 186,000 active "troops".... while "experts" figure close to 80,000 taliban troops in afghanistan, total.
With the help of an online calculator, that comes to 93 Afghan troops for every 4 taliban fighters...
#98
PTmowerMech
The end result. We need to get Americans out of Afghanistan. Then let them work out that crap on their own. Every American that has died, and every dollar spent since Bin Laden was killed, was wasted.
So we can pull a Trump, claim victory and just leave.
PTmowerMech
Should have at least gotten the U.S. citizens out before you pull out U.S. Troops.
I read the Afghan military *had* 186,000 active "troops".... while "experts" figure close to 80,000 taliban troops in afghanistan, total.
With the help of an online calculator, that comes to 93 Afghan troops for every 4 taliban fighters...
The end result. We need to get Americans out of Afghanistan. Then let them work out that crap on their own. Every American that has died, and every dollar spent since Bin Laden was killed, was wasted.
So we can pull a Trump, claim victory and just leave.
#99
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MSJim
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MSJim
How is it that gas prices went up from 2008 to 2016 with a D, down from 2016 to 2020 with an R, and now with a D, they're going up.....?
#100
PTmowerMech
The same way it got up over $4 gallon with W. I'm not sure what happened when Trump was office. It's a fact, we seen some decent gas prices during his term. If he has something do about it, I doubt Biden will do it.
But honestly, I doubt the CEO's and big shots in the oil business, who get million $$$ bonuses are going to take orders from a president who makes what, $400K a year?
Like most politics, there's a lot of important information that we'll never know. So we can only guess at why anything is what it is, when it comes to those clowns.
PTmowerMech
How is it that gas prices went up from 2008 to 2016 with a D, down from 2016 to 2020 with an R, and now with a D, they're going up.....?
The same way it got up over $4 gallon with W. I'm not sure what happened when Trump was office. It's a fact, we seen some decent gas prices during his term. If he has something do about it, I doubt Biden will do it.
But honestly, I doubt the CEO's and big shots in the oil business, who get million $$$ bonuses are going to take orders from a president who makes what, $400K a year?
Like most politics, there's a lot of important information that we'll never know. So we can only guess at why anything is what it is, when it comes to those clowns.
#101
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hlw49
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hlw49
Trump never got us in there was in the process of getting us out. Biden took over pulled the military out and left the Americans there on their own. Now Biden can leave a bunch of Americans there just pull out and claim victory.The end result. We need to get Americans out of Afghanistan. Then let them work out that crap on their own. Every American that has died, and every dollar spent since Bin Laden was killed, was wasted.
So we can pull a Trump, claim victory and just leave.
#102
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bertsmobile1
SImple fact is the mortician is responsible for notifying the registrar of the death and registering the death certificate .
All this happens before the body leave the morgue because people like the coroner have to decide if an autopsy is required or the death certificate cause of death is acceptiable.
This is why it can take a week or so before a body is released for disposal.
IF you find this side splittingly funny well that says something about your sense of humour but nothing about the information presented .
Now death certificates can be falsified by the certifing doctor and in the case of the nursing home probably was to avoid an investigation into the nursing home if the doctor was tied to the home .
However the very idea that the funeral director would or could do it inflate the Covid numbers was absolute tosh imagined by some one with zero understanding about how the system works . I do not know what Covid benefits are in place in the USA but there very well could be a bonus paid to funeral homes to cover the extra costs associated with the handling of & disposing of a covid infected body , although again 3 days after the death, the virus would also be dead as it stops reproducing the second you stop breathing .
However once going to print it provides others who share the same ignorance & beliefs with proof of their dillusions .
There is a name for this arguing technique but it has been 50 years since I was on a debating team so I have forgotten the actual name but I have not forgotten the technique .
And FWIW since lockdowns & better hygine has been in practice down here I have not caught either a cold or a flu in fact not so much as a sore throat.
The US navy did an experiment with on board hygine that finished 2 years ago ( just before Covid ).
They modified one of the supply ships so that before you entered the mess you had to pass through a wash station and policed sailors passing through so that every single one washed their hands every single time they passed through .
The result was a 100% absence of any reported food poisoning which accounted for a 60% reduction is presentations to sick bay .
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bertsmobile1
People who are skilled at spreading misinformation reply to others who have called out their minsinfomation and shown logically that their statement was wrong by introducing something that was not in the original response then argueing against it .I cracked up reading this reply! I have laughed so much I'm not sure where to begin on the reply.
It reminds me of a guy I spoke with yesterday. Older guy, goes to the gym daily.
I saw him there yesterday, asked him what he did for exercise since I haven't seen him do any cardio in a while.
"I just do the machines." Me: "oh? No more cardio?"
Him: "Well I'm afraid if I breathe too hard I'll catch the virus."
Me: "Didn't you have both shots?"
Him: "Yes."
MENTAL ILLNESS BUT ON A MASSIVE SCALE.
I'll try to unpack your reply later.
SImple fact is the mortician is responsible for notifying the registrar of the death and registering the death certificate .
All this happens before the body leave the morgue because people like the coroner have to decide if an autopsy is required or the death certificate cause of death is acceptiable.
This is why it can take a week or so before a body is released for disposal.
IF you find this side splittingly funny well that says something about your sense of humour but nothing about the information presented .
Now death certificates can be falsified by the certifing doctor and in the case of the nursing home probably was to avoid an investigation into the nursing home if the doctor was tied to the home .
However the very idea that the funeral director would or could do it inflate the Covid numbers was absolute tosh imagined by some one with zero understanding about how the system works . I do not know what Covid benefits are in place in the USA but there very well could be a bonus paid to funeral homes to cover the extra costs associated with the handling of & disposing of a covid infected body , although again 3 days after the death, the virus would also be dead as it stops reproducing the second you stop breathing .
However once going to print it provides others who share the same ignorance & beliefs with proof of their dillusions .
There is a name for this arguing technique but it has been 50 years since I was on a debating team so I have forgotten the actual name but I have not forgotten the technique .
And FWIW since lockdowns & better hygine has been in practice down here I have not caught either a cold or a flu in fact not so much as a sore throat.
The US navy did an experiment with on board hygine that finished 2 years ago ( just before Covid ).
They modified one of the supply ships so that before you entered the mess you had to pass through a wash station and policed sailors passing through so that every single one washed their hands every single time they passed through .
The result was a 100% absence of any reported food poisoning which accounted for a 60% reduction is presentations to sick bay .
#103
PTmowerMech
He didn't get us out either. Nor did he get us out of Syria. Not all the soldiers. And both of those countries are places we shouldn't have a soldier.
The only countries we're interested in are countries with resources we want or strategic locations to protect those resources.
If this ain't a good reason to stop worshipping the right or the left, I don't know..... Well........... Come to think of it, I could probably post 20 more, just off the top of my head. Wake me up from a drunken stooper, and could give you 9.
Look bro, Trump didn't get us out of Afghanistan, after claiming we should've left after Bin Laden was killed. And in all the right or left articles I found about this, no where does Trump say anything about getting citizens out first.
And why would he or Biden? Sure, we know now. But hindsight is 20/20. Had the Taliban not come in and taken over, Biden's decision would've been what Trump said he was going to do.
But the right ain't gonna admit that Trump and Biden saw eye to eye on that.. And the left ain't gonna admit it either.
And because the two clown shows aren't going to admit it, the citizens are going to keep fighting about it.
"The government wants everybody fighting with their neighbor cause they know that if we get along we'll probably go against them."
From August 2019
PTmowerMech
Trump never got us in there was in the process of getting us out. Biden took over pulled the military out and left the Americans there on their own. Now Biden can leave a bunch of Americans there just pull out and claim victory.
He didn't get us out either. Nor did he get us out of Syria. Not all the soldiers. And both of those countries are places we shouldn't have a soldier.
The only countries we're interested in are countries with resources we want or strategic locations to protect those resources.
If this ain't a good reason to stop worshipping the right or the left, I don't know..... Well........... Come to think of it, I could probably post 20 more, just off the top of my head. Wake me up from a drunken stooper, and could give you 9.
Look bro, Trump didn't get us out of Afghanistan, after claiming we should've left after Bin Laden was killed. And in all the right or left articles I found about this, no where does Trump say anything about getting citizens out first.
And why would he or Biden? Sure, we know now. But hindsight is 20/20. Had the Taliban not come in and taken over, Biden's decision would've been what Trump said he was going to do.
But the right ain't gonna admit that Trump and Biden saw eye to eye on that.. And the left ain't gonna admit it either.
And because the two clown shows aren't going to admit it, the citizens are going to keep fighting about it.
"The government wants everybody fighting with their neighbor cause they know that if we get along we'll probably go against them."
From August 2019
Trump wants to pull all U.S. troops out of Afghanistan by 2020 election, officials say
#104
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bertsmobile1
All that President Biden can do is give the generals an absolute deadline for withdrawl.
The rest is up to the generals and even then their directives are not all that specific in the details.
Who does what and how they do it starts to happen around the level of Captains & Lieutenants .
So attributing individual actions to the White House is a sign that the person has watched one too many Hollywood movies.
The governments ( Taliban & President ) sketch out the rough terms , conditions & deadlines
So President Trump ( who should have been taking advice from his generals ) makes the deal with the Taliban.
Usually this is kept secret to all but the generals who have to "make it happen "
In this case it was in part "no US troops would be attacked if the US agree to exit by August 31 "
There may even have been other deadlines for things like abandoning the Bagram air base which has been suggested by some of the "experts"
The generals then decide the order of events , which troops to pull out in what order .
That gets passed down the chain of command and at each level more detail is added .
The next time the White hose comes into play is when the generals either report "job done" or come back & ask for extensions because the job can not be done in the time frame.
So then the President has to decide if he will order the troops to overstay the truce period & risk a wipe out or pull out on schedule and risk the fate of the remaining.
Not a decision I would like to be forced to make .
So the fact that x civilians, y troops & z citizens got left behind is not really the fault of the current President it is a failure of the analysists who provided the intellegence to the military so the military could plan a complete withdrawl .
Having said that every one should have been gone before Bagram was closed because without air support there was very little to stop a blitzcreig advance of the Taliban.
So that was a failing of the generals not the President, although as CIC the buck stops at his desk .
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bertsmobile1
No President has that sort of control over military operations.Trump never got us in there was in the process of getting us out. Biden took over pulled the military out and left the Americans there on their own. Now Biden can leave a bunch of Americans there just pull out and claim victory.
All that President Biden can do is give the generals an absolute deadline for withdrawl.
The rest is up to the generals and even then their directives are not all that specific in the details.
Who does what and how they do it starts to happen around the level of Captains & Lieutenants .
So attributing individual actions to the White House is a sign that the person has watched one too many Hollywood movies.
The governments ( Taliban & President ) sketch out the rough terms , conditions & deadlines
So President Trump ( who should have been taking advice from his generals ) makes the deal with the Taliban.
Usually this is kept secret to all but the generals who have to "make it happen "
In this case it was in part "no US troops would be attacked if the US agree to exit by August 31 "
There may even have been other deadlines for things like abandoning the Bagram air base which has been suggested by some of the "experts"
The generals then decide the order of events , which troops to pull out in what order .
That gets passed down the chain of command and at each level more detail is added .
The next time the White hose comes into play is when the generals either report "job done" or come back & ask for extensions because the job can not be done in the time frame.
So then the President has to decide if he will order the troops to overstay the truce period & risk a wipe out or pull out on schedule and risk the fate of the remaining.
Not a decision I would like to be forced to make .
So the fact that x civilians, y troops & z citizens got left behind is not really the fault of the current President it is a failure of the analysists who provided the intellegence to the military so the military could plan a complete withdrawl .
Having said that every one should have been gone before Bagram was closed because without air support there was very little to stop a blitzcreig advance of the Taliban.
So that was a failing of the generals not the President, although as CIC the buck stops at his desk .
#105
7394
7394
Vaccinated people are getting Covid as well, & yes some are dying too.
#106
PTmowerMech
Fact
PTmowerMech
Vaccinated people are getting Covid as well, & yes some are dying too.
Fact
#107
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bertsmobile1
Covid itself does not kill you it just uses nutrients from you body to reproduce itself .
Your immune system is what kills you in an attempt to kill the covid virus .
So the vaccine simply tones down your immune response to the same level as it would for a cold or flu.
You do not feel or suffer from the virus, in fact you can not even detect it being there.
But the immune system does and what you feel, watery eyes, runny nose cough fever etc is the immune system trying to get rid of the virus.
The flu vaccine does not stop you getting the flu either, it works the same way so when you do get the flu , the body just regulates it till it has passed.
Viruses can not live in your body forever unless they are a parrasitic virus .
So they infect , reproduce and unleash thousands of packets so they can infect others then they die .
Not too similar to an annual flower that flowers, sets seeds for future reproduction then it dies .
So once every one is vaccinated then every one can catch Covid but most will have little to no symptoms and eventually ( we hope ) it will become part of our DNA like reactions to the cold are .
However some will die but it will be fewer and most of those who get infected will not get as sick.
So just like the flu that causes 12,000 to 30,000 deaths every year, Covid 19 will do some thing similar .
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bertsmobile1
The vaccine does not stop you getting covid and this was the big problem with the "vaccinate out of danger " proposal.Vaccinated people are getting Covid as well, & yes some are dying too.
Covid itself does not kill you it just uses nutrients from you body to reproduce itself .
Your immune system is what kills you in an attempt to kill the covid virus .
So the vaccine simply tones down your immune response to the same level as it would for a cold or flu.
You do not feel or suffer from the virus, in fact you can not even detect it being there.
But the immune system does and what you feel, watery eyes, runny nose cough fever etc is the immune system trying to get rid of the virus.
The flu vaccine does not stop you getting the flu either, it works the same way so when you do get the flu , the body just regulates it till it has passed.
Viruses can not live in your body forever unless they are a parrasitic virus .
So they infect , reproduce and unleash thousands of packets so they can infect others then they die .
Not too similar to an annual flower that flowers, sets seeds for future reproduction then it dies .
So once every one is vaccinated then every one can catch Covid but most will have little to no symptoms and eventually ( we hope ) it will become part of our DNA like reactions to the cold are .
However some will die but it will be fewer and most of those who get infected will not get as sick.
So just like the flu that causes 12,000 to 30,000 deaths every year, Covid 19 will do some thing similar .
#108
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MowManWV
You might just be a bit of a loner-type. Lots of guys are just not very out-going. I'm so outgoing I actually feel bad if I don't talk to new people around me! Of course I make lots of new friends and that tends to benefit me although I don't do it for monetary gain, I just like being friendly.
Humans though are meant to touch each other.........hugs.......handshakes.......these have been proven to help with not only mental health but physical health. Leave a baby untouched and it will literally die or grow up unable to think or reason at a useful level. Handshakes developed from showing strangers that our hands were empty and thus, we were not a threat to each other. If I met you I'd put my hand out. I may not pick my nose afterwards but I'd shake your hand.
Just yesterday I ran into two people that I believe are mentally damaged from the scamdemic.
The first was, really, pathetic. Inside a hardware store, double vaxxed, wearing a cloth mask (useless for stopping virus particles) that clearly wasn't washed very often. During our long chat he reached inside it twice to scratch his face! When I pointed out the obvious contradiction he had a silly answer......something a child would say. He was clearly re-programmed. Simply, that. And scared.
He said "I'm not scared." Sure he is. I told him, "the mask is a security blanket, you admit you do not wash yours, you touch your face inside of it, you had both shots, yet here you are wearing it months later, when you know the weave is thousands of times bigger than the virus itself. You'll be wearing that mask until the day you die and you won't die of the virus."
I also told him this..........and I told him I am not sure if it was really a "study" and since it was apparently done in 1960's Soviet Union, good luck ever finding it! The communists tend to be secretive, especially when it comes to unethical treatment of people.
If I remember correctly "the Soviets did a test and found that if a population is kept in a state of fear for a few months and told something inaccurate and then released and shown evidence that disproves what they were taught, 75% or more will carry those lies to their grave, no matter what contradictory evidence and proof they are shown."
I think that's happened. I think a significant portion of world society has been terrified and they will believe what they were told no matter what.
The second was a lady, obese, wearing a cloth mask inside McDonald's. I asked her and to my surprise neither she nor her family were vaxxed. (Generally the only ones wearing masks now are the vaxxers......unless wearing it under duress by an employer).
She told me something shocking "I haven't hugged my mother since the whole thing started." Her mother (she told me in her 60's) has not been hugged by her family in over a year!
I told her how suicide and self mutilation ("cutting") in America is up 333 percent, a factoid I heard on the radio back in April. I told her "go home, hug your mother before it's too late. Humans were meant to touch each other.....it's essential for a healthy mind and soul."
Given that the largest group to die of the virus is the obese......anyone that is still obese is not afraid of the virus. Nobody. They've had over a year to lose the weight. She isn't scared of the virus.......her mind......her ability to think rationally.........has been damaged. And she won't hug her mother as a result.
IT'S DISGUSTING. It's a crime that has been thrust onto an ignorant and compliant world. SMH.
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MowManWV
I'm sort of the same way. But not so much for disease purposes. Just a personal space thing. Shaking hands, I'll do it, if someone sticks out their hands. But If I do it first, it's a fist bump. Asians and their head bow thing is a good thing, I think. It shows respect.
But that's just me.
I'm weird.
You might just be a bit of a loner-type. Lots of guys are just not very out-going. I'm so outgoing I actually feel bad if I don't talk to new people around me! Of course I make lots of new friends and that tends to benefit me although I don't do it for monetary gain, I just like being friendly.
Humans though are meant to touch each other.........hugs.......handshakes.......these have been proven to help with not only mental health but physical health. Leave a baby untouched and it will literally die or grow up unable to think or reason at a useful level. Handshakes developed from showing strangers that our hands were empty and thus, we were not a threat to each other. If I met you I'd put my hand out. I may not pick my nose afterwards but I'd shake your hand.
Just yesterday I ran into two people that I believe are mentally damaged from the scamdemic.
The first was, really, pathetic. Inside a hardware store, double vaxxed, wearing a cloth mask (useless for stopping virus particles) that clearly wasn't washed very often. During our long chat he reached inside it twice to scratch his face! When I pointed out the obvious contradiction he had a silly answer......something a child would say. He was clearly re-programmed. Simply, that. And scared.
He said "I'm not scared." Sure he is. I told him, "the mask is a security blanket, you admit you do not wash yours, you touch your face inside of it, you had both shots, yet here you are wearing it months later, when you know the weave is thousands of times bigger than the virus itself. You'll be wearing that mask until the day you die and you won't die of the virus."
I also told him this..........and I told him I am not sure if it was really a "study" and since it was apparently done in 1960's Soviet Union, good luck ever finding it! The communists tend to be secretive, especially when it comes to unethical treatment of people.
If I remember correctly "the Soviets did a test and found that if a population is kept in a state of fear for a few months and told something inaccurate and then released and shown evidence that disproves what they were taught, 75% or more will carry those lies to their grave, no matter what contradictory evidence and proof they are shown."
I think that's happened. I think a significant portion of world society has been terrified and they will believe what they were told no matter what.
The second was a lady, obese, wearing a cloth mask inside McDonald's. I asked her and to my surprise neither she nor her family were vaxxed. (Generally the only ones wearing masks now are the vaxxers......unless wearing it under duress by an employer).
She told me something shocking "I haven't hugged my mother since the whole thing started." Her mother (she told me in her 60's) has not been hugged by her family in over a year!
I told her how suicide and self mutilation ("cutting") in America is up 333 percent, a factoid I heard on the radio back in April. I told her "go home, hug your mother before it's too late. Humans were meant to touch each other.....it's essential for a healthy mind and soul."
Given that the largest group to die of the virus is the obese......anyone that is still obese is not afraid of the virus. Nobody. They've had over a year to lose the weight. She isn't scared of the virus.......her mind......her ability to think rationally.........has been damaged. And she won't hug her mother as a result.
IT'S DISGUSTING. It's a crime that has been thrust onto an ignorant and compliant world. SMH.
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
MASKS DO STOP DROPLETS
As such they do have a place in prevention
And I find them a PIA to wear .
Not the be all and end all.
They also have a secondary benefit, to remind people of the need for proper hygine.
As such they do have a place in prevention
And I find them a PIA to wear .
Not the be all and end all.
They also have a secondary benefit, to remind people of the need for proper hygine.
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MowManWV
1). What country do you live in? I suspect it's Australia but I don't like to make assumptions.
2). What do you do for a living?
3). Has you income been harmed by the lockdowns? Are you at risk of losing your means of sustaining yourself?
4). What is your age, fitness level, and general health state?
Once those questions are answered, I'll be better able to continue our debate.
Because I asked.
1). I live in USA, fairly rural area, not a large city.
2). I own rental property and I am expanding into landscaping. Mowing, home repairs, painting, brush removal, etc. Basically renting out the skills I learned and tools I acquired fixing up the rental properties I bought.
3). My income has been harmed by the lockdowns. Not to a great level, but the potential for losing a few hundred grand is certainly there. That would bankrupt me. I don't know anyone that has died of the virus but I do know business owners that have lost everything due to the lockdown.
4). I am in my 40's, generally fit.
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MowManWV
Before we go any further, I'd like to ask some questions.People who are skilled at spreading misinformation reply to others who have called out their minsinfomation and shown logically that their statement was wrong by introducing something that was not in the original response then argueing against it .
SImple fact is the mortician is responsible for notifying the registrar of the death and registering the death certificate .
All this happens before the body leave the morgue because people like the coroner have to decide if an autopsy is required or the death certificate cause of death is acceptiable.
This is why it can take a week or so before a body is released for disposal.
IF you find this side splittingly funny well that says something about your sense of humour but nothing about the information presented .
Now death certificates can be falsified by the certifing doctor and in the case of the nursing home probably was to avoid an investigation into the nursing home if the doctor was tied to the home .
However the very idea that the funeral director would or could do it inflate the Covid numbers was absolute tosh imagined by some one with zero understanding about how the system works . I do not know what Covid benefits are in place in the USA but there very well could be a bonus paid to funeral homes to cover the extra costs associated with the handling of & disposing of a covid infected body , although again 3 days after the death, the virus would also be dead as it stops reproducing the second you stop breathing .
However once going to print it provides others who share the same ignorance & beliefs with proof of their dillusions .
There is a name for this arguing technique but it has been 50 years since I was on a debating team so I have forgotten the actual name but I have not forgotten the technique .
And FWIW since lockdowns & better hygine has been in practice down here I have not caught either a cold or a flu in fact not so much as a sore throat.
The US navy did an experiment with on board hygine that finished 2 years ago ( just before Covid ).
They modified one of the supply ships so that before you entered the mess you had to pass through a wash station and policed sailors passing through so that every single one washed their hands every single time they passed through .
The result was a 100% absence of any reported food poisoning which accounted for a 60% reduction is presentations to sick bay .
1). What country do you live in? I suspect it's Australia but I don't like to make assumptions.
2). What do you do for a living?
3). Has you income been harmed by the lockdowns? Are you at risk of losing your means of sustaining yourself?
4). What is your age, fitness level, and general health state?
Once those questions are answered, I'll be better able to continue our debate.
Because I asked.
1). I live in USA, fairly rural area, not a large city.
2). I own rental property and I am expanding into landscaping. Mowing, home repairs, painting, brush removal, etc. Basically renting out the skills I learned and tools I acquired fixing up the rental properties I bought.
3). My income has been harmed by the lockdowns. Not to a great level, but the potential for losing a few hundred grand is certainly there. That would bankrupt me. I don't know anyone that has died of the virus but I do know business owners that have lost everything due to the lockdown.
4). I am in my 40's, generally fit.
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MowManWV
Stops droplets? Who knew???? I didn't know we had an epidemic of random people sneezing directly onto others. Too bad the virus is airborne.
So you admit, it's a "virtue signal." Thanks.
But that's what virtue signals do, they signal.
As I told the masker yesterday, "masks are the new crucifix. It's the symbol of the new religion and like a cross, it doesn't indicate devotion or merit, it's just a symbol."
"I'm good......I believe......I follow the tenants of my religion. I will be rewarded by my god."
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MowManWV
MASKS DO STOP DROPLETS
As such they do have a place in prevention
And I find them a PIA to wear .
Not the be all and end all.
They also have a secondary benefit, to remind people of the need for proper hygine.
Stops droplets? Who knew???? I didn't know we had an epidemic of random people sneezing directly onto others. Too bad the virus is airborne.
So you admit, it's a "virtue signal." Thanks.
But that's what virtue signals do, they signal.
As I told the masker yesterday, "masks are the new crucifix. It's the symbol of the new religion and like a cross, it doesn't indicate devotion or merit, it's just a symbol."
"I'm good......I believe......I follow the tenants of my religion. I will be rewarded by my god."
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7394
My mower sure ran great today, hate to mow on Sunday, but rains are expected from the Tropical Storm Ida in the Gulf & coming up.
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bertsmobile1
If you got your news from a reliable source like "Scientific America" for one , and not the mass media who intentionally sesationalise everything and deliberately try to make their consumers anxious or depressed then you would know the initial ( and for Mk I ) primary method of transfer was by what is medically called droplets and they can be so small that you can not see them by eye but can see them with a low power microscope and collect them as they only travel a few yards before they hit the ground and can contain a massive number of viral packets .
Usually they are referred to as "Gram + " by the medical profession and the lighter vapour is called " gram - "
This is why when you present to a doctor with an unknown infection you get prescribed 2 different anti-biotics .
Exhaled vapour is a different matter each water molecule can only hold 1 viral packet before it becomes too heavy and goes from being gram + to gram - .
This was the basis of the exposure time spread theory because they did not know and still don't know how many viral packets a person needs to be expose to before they become infected but they knew it had to be a large number for a vapour spread infection from contact tracing .
In reality it will be different for every person but an average can be found .
Thus if you were in an enclosed space for more than "X" minutes you got considered a casual contact and were advised simply to isolate & monitor your health for 14 days , although it looks like 21 would have been better as for some it takes longer for the packets to establish an infection.
Like a lot of respiratory viruses , Covid 19 is killed by the UV content in sunlight so it was assumed that a single packet in exhaled vapour would be killed in a few minutes thus not travel very far . This by the way is a big reason why colds & flus are worse in winter when the UV index drops significantly.
I said it was a constant reminder to practice proper hygine , it could be an elastic band on your wrist if it works for you.
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bertsmobile1
Stops droplets? Who knew???? I didn't know we had an epidemic of random people sneezing directly onto others. Too bad the virus is airborne.
If you got your news from a reliable source like "Scientific America" for one , and not the mass media who intentionally sesationalise everything and deliberately try to make their consumers anxious or depressed then you would know the initial ( and for Mk I ) primary method of transfer was by what is medically called droplets and they can be so small that you can not see them by eye but can see them with a low power microscope and collect them as they only travel a few yards before they hit the ground and can contain a massive number of viral packets .
Usually they are referred to as "Gram + " by the medical profession and the lighter vapour is called " gram - "
This is why when you present to a doctor with an unknown infection you get prescribed 2 different anti-biotics .
Exhaled vapour is a different matter each water molecule can only hold 1 viral packet before it becomes too heavy and goes from being gram + to gram - .
This was the basis of the exposure time spread theory because they did not know and still don't know how many viral packets a person needs to be expose to before they become infected but they knew it had to be a large number for a vapour spread infection from contact tracing .
In reality it will be different for every person but an average can be found .
Thus if you were in an enclosed space for more than "X" minutes you got considered a casual contact and were advised simply to isolate & monitor your health for 14 days , although it looks like 21 would have been better as for some it takes longer for the packets to establish an infection.
Like a lot of respiratory viruses , Covid 19 is killed by the UV content in sunlight so it was assumed that a single packet in exhaled vapour would be killed in a few minutes thus not travel very far . This by the way is a big reason why colds & flus are worse in winter when the UV index drops significantly.
Once again YOUR SPIN on what was said and not what was said and of course uses loaded language , another cheap argueing trickSo you admit, it's a "virtue signal." Thanks.
I said it was a constant reminder to practice proper hygine , it could be an elastic band on your wrist if it works for you.
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bertsmobile1
The answer to every question you asked is in previous posts which again shows you are argueing against an idea you have in your head and not against what was actually posted.
But to make it easy for you
1) Oz
2) Berts Mobile Mower Repairs
3) Down over 80% on the turn over that was already down 40% due to the 2017-2019 drought then down again due to the 2019 bush fires & RA But not elligable for any government assistance ( it was carefully targeted to those who would vote for the current government and those who could be encouraged to change their vote ) . Much like Star I can get by on a very small income , grow ( or swap ) about 90 % of the fruit & veggies I eat get free eggs in season and eat mostly poultry ( some raised ) & fish ( mostly caught in the river near by ) .Although I did need to sell one of the rollers ( ex- hire car ) that I was going to be driving in 2019 .
4) 69 , strong & healthy apart from the RA which had me crippled for a lot of 2019 but is now stable .
5) although not asked, rural fringe of the largest city ( Sydney ) which is quickly being built out .
Not a single reported case within 10 miles of the workshop & 20 miles from the house ( lower Blue Mountains ) .
Not that it makes a difference but I do not care how many people Covid kills in fact the more the better as there are way too many humans running around making a mess of the planet .
However do not want to be the one responsible for the death or dissability of others .
While Covid is around I am living in the workshop & my wife is living in the house, we have no seen or touched each other for better than 2 years but we phone daily & video call once or twice a week .
While I do not believe in Eugenics I do believe that evolution is real so if the unvaccinated want to run around unmasked and end up seriously ill or dead then that just goes to prove that Darwin was right all along although there is a strong belief in Eugenics in the USA so may there would believe all those who died were the substandard people who should not have been allowed to breed in the first place .
as an aside and not really related to the current discussion, Mr Hitler derived his "master race & final solution " plan from the theories he was introduced to at the Eugenics meetings that he attended while he was in the USA and he was particularly impressed by the mass steralization of defective stupid women ( naturally defects could not the the fault of the male ) and the incarceration of physically & mentally defective Americans . Apparently when he was there the US was steralizing over 200,000 women a year .
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bertsmobile1
Before we go any further, I'd like to ask some questions.
1). What country do you live in? I suspect it's Australia but I don't like to make assumptions.
2). What do you do for a living?
3). Has you income been harmed by the lockdowns? Are you at risk of losing your means of sustaining yourself?
4). What is your age, fitness level, and general health state?
Once those questions are answered, I'll be better able to continue our debate.
Because I asked.
1). I live in USA, fairly rural area, not a large city.
2). I own rental property and I am expanding into landscaping. Mowing, home repairs, painting, brush removal, etc. Basically renting out the skills I learned and tools I acquired fixing up the rental properties I bought.
3). My income has been harmed by the lockdowns. Not to a great level, but the potential for losing a few hundred grand is certainly there. That would bankrupt me. I don't know anyone that has died of the virus but I do know business owners that have lost everything due to the lockdown.
4). I am in my 40's, generally fit.
The answer to every question you asked is in previous posts which again shows you are argueing against an idea you have in your head and not against what was actually posted.
But to make it easy for you
1) Oz
2) Berts Mobile Mower Repairs
3) Down over 80% on the turn over that was already down 40% due to the 2017-2019 drought then down again due to the 2019 bush fires & RA But not elligable for any government assistance ( it was carefully targeted to those who would vote for the current government and those who could be encouraged to change their vote ) . Much like Star I can get by on a very small income , grow ( or swap ) about 90 % of the fruit & veggies I eat get free eggs in season and eat mostly poultry ( some raised ) & fish ( mostly caught in the river near by ) .Although I did need to sell one of the rollers ( ex- hire car ) that I was going to be driving in 2019 .
4) 69 , strong & healthy apart from the RA which had me crippled for a lot of 2019 but is now stable .
5) although not asked, rural fringe of the largest city ( Sydney ) which is quickly being built out .
Not a single reported case within 10 miles of the workshop & 20 miles from the house ( lower Blue Mountains ) .
Not that it makes a difference but I do not care how many people Covid kills in fact the more the better as there are way too many humans running around making a mess of the planet .
However do not want to be the one responsible for the death or dissability of others .
While Covid is around I am living in the workshop & my wife is living in the house, we have no seen or touched each other for better than 2 years but we phone daily & video call once or twice a week .
While I do not believe in Eugenics I do believe that evolution is real so if the unvaccinated want to run around unmasked and end up seriously ill or dead then that just goes to prove that Darwin was right all along although there is a strong belief in Eugenics in the USA so may there would believe all those who died were the substandard people who should not have been allowed to breed in the first place .
as an aside and not really related to the current discussion, Mr Hitler derived his "master race & final solution " plan from the theories he was introduced to at the Eugenics meetings that he attended while he was in the USA and he was particularly impressed by the mass steralization of defective stupid women ( naturally defects could not the the fault of the male ) and the incarceration of physically & mentally defective Americans . Apparently when he was there the US was steralizing over 200,000 women a year .
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PTmowerMech
No offense, but much of that sounds like it came from a psychology book. I'm not here to help improve others mental issues. Meet, greet and get down to business. If the business is friendship, then so be it. I'm down with making new friends.
You 100% on point, I am kind of a loner. A friendly one, though. I mind my business. But I'll also talk to strangers, if it's important or funny.
As far as vaccines and masks go. To each his own. I'm not going to bash either/or. It's silly to say that the virus can't get on someone's sleeve, brushed onto someone's hand. Then that person rubs his nose and bam he's got it. Or get through the mask into the persons nose or mouth.
There's no 100% on this issue, for either side. So why argue about it?
PTmowerMech
You might just be a bit of a loner-type. Lots of guys are just not very out-going. I'm so outgoing I actually feel bad if I don't talk to new people around me! Of course I make lots of new friends and that tends to benefit me although I don't do it for monetary gain, I just like being friendly.
Humans though are meant to touch each other.........hugs.......handshakes.......these have been proven to help with not only mental health but physical health. Leave a baby untouched and it will literally die or grow up unable to think or reason at a useful level. Handshakes developed from showing strangers that our hands were empty and thus, we were not a threat to each other. If I met you I'd put my hand out. I may not pick my nose afterwards but I'd shake your hand.
Just yesterday I ran into two people that I believe are mentally damaged from the scamdemic.
The first was, really, pathetic. Inside a hardware store, double vaxxed, wearing a cloth mask (useless for stopping virus particles) that clearly wasn't washed very often. During our long chat he reached inside it twice to scratch his face! When I pointed out the obvious contradiction he had a silly answer......something a child would say. He was clearly re-programmed. Simply, that. And scared.
He said "I'm not scared." Sure he is. I told him, "the mask is a security blanket, you admit you do not wash yours, you touch your face inside of it, you had both shots, yet here you are wearing it months later, when you know the weave is thousands of times bigger than the virus itself. You'll be wearing that mask until the day you die and you won't die of the virus."
I also told him this..........and I told him I am not sure if it was really a "study" and since it was apparently done in 1960's Soviet Union, good luck ever finding it! The communists tend to be secretive, especially when it comes to unethical treatment of people.
If I remember correctly "the Soviets did a test and found that if a population is kept in a state of fear for a few months and told something inaccurate and then released and shown evidence that disproves what they were taught, 75% or more will carry those lies to their grave, no matter what contradictory evidence and proof they are shown."
I think that's happened. I think a significant portion of world society has been terrified and they will believe what they were told no matter what.
The second was a lady, obese, wearing a cloth mask inside McDonald's. I asked her and to my surprise neither she nor her family were vaxxed. (Generally the only ones wearing masks now are the vaxxers......unless wearing it under duress by an employer).
She told me something shocking "I haven't hugged my mother since the whole thing started." Her mother (she told me in her 60's) has not been hugged by her family in over a year!
I told her how suicide and self mutilation ("cutting") in America is up 333 percent, a factoid I heard on the radio back in April. I told her "go home, hug your mother before it's too late. Humans were meant to touch each other.....it's essential for a healthy mind and soul."
Given that the largest group to die of the virus is the obese......anyone that is still obese is not afraid of the virus. Nobody. They've had over a year to lose the weight. She isn't scared of the virus.......her mind......her ability to think rationally.........has been damaged. And she won't hug her mother as a result.
IT'S DISGUSTING. It's a crime that has been thrust onto an ignorant and compliant world. SMH.
No offense, but much of that sounds like it came from a psychology book. I'm not here to help improve others mental issues. Meet, greet and get down to business. If the business is friendship, then so be it. I'm down with making new friends.
You 100% on point, I am kind of a loner. A friendly one, though. I mind my business. But I'll also talk to strangers, if it's important or funny.
As far as vaccines and masks go. To each his own. I'm not going to bash either/or. It's silly to say that the virus can't get on someone's sleeve, brushed onto someone's hand. Then that person rubs his nose and bam he's got it. Or get through the mask into the persons nose or mouth.
There's no 100% on this issue, for either side. So why argue about it?
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footballfan33
What is the government response? Get another shot of DNA-altering poison.
If you’re unhealthy with HBP, diabetes you’re gonna have issues. If your a tobacco user, not so much.
The not-vaccine would have probably killed this man sooner… as it has over 100,000 times to date.
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footballfan33
Let’s keep idiot WuFlu vaccinator comments off this forum. The mRNA vaccine is poison and as we have seen, numerous times, does nothing to keep one from catching it. It also doesn’t reduce hospitalizations per the CDC today.No untimely death is a good thing but one wonders just how many of his devoted listeners took his previous advice & did not get vaccinated then died before him because they looked up to him & trusted him .
IT is the one thing that really urks me about President Trump's continued anti-vaccine , anti- face mask & anti quarrentine stance.
He got fully vaccinated himself then had the best healthcare available to any person on the planet yet he wants others to take unnecessary risks with their life .
As for floods in TN & fires in Greece ( or OZ last season for that matter ) way back in the 70's when I was in college scientists were warning & predicting that global warming could drive substantially more sever weather extremes but they got ignored.
Then vested interests turned climate change into a left - right political idology debate .
Well now it is here and note every flood suddenly has become the biggest ever recorded in that particular region , every drought is the most sever ever recorded for that region.
Hotter hot days & colder cold days which whips up a lot stronger winds .
And the worst is yet to come
What is the government response? Get another shot of DNA-altering poison.
If you’re unhealthy with HBP, diabetes you’re gonna have issues. If your a tobacco user, not so much.
The not-vaccine would have probably killed this man sooner… as it has over 100,000 times to date.
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bertsmobile1
Some people can have an adverse reaction to it . Some people have an adverse reaction to sunlight.
Then again some people have adverse reactions to water on their skin or even breathing air .
If you are going to throw around numbers then quote a source or they will be naturally considerd to be invented by you .
All of the vaccines do actually do some thing to prevent you from catching Covid and even more to prevent others giving it to you.
This has been tested scientifically ( able to be repeated & get the same results ) that vaccinated people get infected at a substantially lower rate than the unvaccinated.
And when vaccinated people do get infected them most do not suffer as much and produce substantially less covid packets as unvaccinated .
But it will not make you immune and I was not happy with all of the people incorrectly banding the term "heard Immunity" around all the time because it was a convienant word and sounded good .
I do not believe in God but have no problems with others who do until they start telling everyone that this or that is Gods Will and accuse all of the scientists who explain what is happening as spreading lies.
And despite what all the God botherers prostalize we are actually all different , not all identical in his image because of the random nature of gene transfer during conseception ( or original sin if you are a Pope botherer )
Now if you have hard proof from a verifiable source then please present it
As a person who was trained in the sciences I am always very happy when some one can prove that what I have understood to be correct is wrong .
However if all you have in your armory is inuendo, hear say nand conspiracy theories then you are wasting your time blathering to some one who is capable of relatively objective thinking .
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bertsmobile1
Well actually it is not a poison under any definition of the word poison you care to use .Let’s keep idiot WuFlu vaccinator comments off this forum. The mRNA vaccine is poison and as we have seen, numerous times, does nothing to keep one from catching it. It also doesn’t reduce hospitalizations per the CDC today.
What is the government response? Get another shot of DNA-altering poison.
If you’re unhealthy with HBP, diabetes you’re gonna have issues. If your a tobacco user, not so much.
The not-vaccine would have probably killed this man sooner… as it has over 100,000 times to date.
Some people can have an adverse reaction to it . Some people have an adverse reaction to sunlight.
Then again some people have adverse reactions to water on their skin or even breathing air .
If you are going to throw around numbers then quote a source or they will be naturally considerd to be invented by you .
All of the vaccines do actually do some thing to prevent you from catching Covid and even more to prevent others giving it to you.
This has been tested scientifically ( able to be repeated & get the same results ) that vaccinated people get infected at a substantially lower rate than the unvaccinated.
And when vaccinated people do get infected them most do not suffer as much and produce substantially less covid packets as unvaccinated .
But it will not make you immune and I was not happy with all of the people incorrectly banding the term "heard Immunity" around all the time because it was a convienant word and sounded good .
I do not believe in God but have no problems with others who do until they start telling everyone that this or that is Gods Will and accuse all of the scientists who explain what is happening as spreading lies.
And despite what all the God botherers prostalize we are actually all different , not all identical in his image because of the random nature of gene transfer during conseception ( or original sin if you are a Pope botherer )
Now if you have hard proof from a verifiable source then please present it
As a person who was trained in the sciences I am always very happy when some one can prove that what I have understood to be correct is wrong .
However if all you have in your armory is inuendo, hear say nand conspiracy theories then you are wasting your time blathering to some one who is capable of relatively objective thinking .
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fixit1ddh
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fixit1ddh
No untimely death is a good thing but one wonders just how many of his devoted listeners took his previous advice & did not get vaccinated then died before him because they looked up to him & trusted him .
IT is the one thing that really urks me about President Trump's continued anti-vaccine , anti- face mask & anti quarrentine stance.
He got fully vaccinated himself then had the best healthcare available to any person on the planet yet he wants others to take unnecessary risks with their life .
As for floods in TN & fires in Greece ( or OZ last season for that matter ) way back in the 70's when I was in college scientists were warning & predicting that global warming could drive substantially more sever weather extremes but they got ignored.
Then vested interests turned climate change into a left - right political idology debate .
Well now it is here and note every flood suddenly has become the biggest ever recorded in that particular region , every drought is the most sever ever recorded for that region.
Hotter hot days & colder cold days which whips up a lot stronger winds .
And the worst is yet to come
#119
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fixit1ddh
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fixit1ddh
No he wasn't vaccinated. He once said he had less than a 1% of getting the virus.
And here in Tennessee like Alabama most of the population associate with the Republican party. Personally I am a true independent voter, I don't vote along party lines just because I don't associate with any particular party. I do my research and vote whomever I think can do the best job.
But I can honestly says that the Republicans have made it hard for me to vote for their candidates with all the lies being told. Its just like a bunch brats fighting over a cookie. Right now I would rather vote for a rattlesnake instead of any of political candidates. At least I know what it going to do.
As for the US civilians in Afghanistan they should of had their backsides out a long time ago. They knew we were pulling out a long time before it happen fully. There is nothing like being stupid by voluntarily living in a war zone. That was their choice and now they want us to save their backsides because their stupidity.
It just like someone that has a tornado, hurricane, fire, or flood barrelling down on them that waits to the very last second to try to get to safety. They know it coming but refuse to move until it is too late.
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bertsmobile1
Hydroxychloroquine is the perfect example, my wife takes it for her Lupis and it works well for her, I took it for my RA and it made me substantially ill however she also has to take other drugs & vitamins to counter act the side effects of it. If there are no side effects of any drug you are taking then the drug is not doing anything and this goes for everything from asprin & vitamin C to stuff like Methtrexate which is so toxic that the hospital staff need full PPE when treating a cancer patient with it .
Hydroxychloroquine was tested worldwide and used in Australia , Brazil , Argentina , India, the UK, Japan & Italy and each country used different doses .
The doseage level use in Brazil & India triggered so many fatal heart attacks the trials were abandoned , every other country that tried using it found it to be ineffective .
I quote from a report that aglomerated all of the available data as of May 2021
www.nature.com
If you had a heart attack while driving , crashed you car and crushed your skull into a lamp post, your cause of death is listed as a crushed skull, not a heart attack so no conspiracy there either .
From day 1 we were told the vaccine was not going to stop you getting covid-19 infections exactly the same way as a flu shot does not stop you from getting the flu .
However the numbers coming out of the UK show that the vaccine does substanially reduce the intensity of a covid infection, reduces the infection transfer rates reduce the hospitalization rate and reduces the death rate.
The numbers coming out of the USA show unvaccinated people are getting infected at a substantially higher rate and suffering more than those who have been vaccinated .
So again no deception .
Like all good conspiracy properganda there were some truths there but the lies & deceptions outweighed them massively.
The largest computer on the planet did modeling 24 hours a day for months running all potential vaccines against the known consequences and interactions with other commonly used drugs.
Most of the possible side effect of the injections are common to other vaccines including the Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) which they made a big thing about also is associated with the flu shots most older people get annually.
www.healthline.com
PCR is a process, not a test the actual test is done on what the PCR produces and in Aust at least that is DNA extraction & identification so no chance of fudging our figures .
And if you run percentages the Australian numbers are on par with the USA numbers UK numbers , French numbers , German numbers and in fact all of the numbers from countries with similar medical systems . and their percentage numbers were totally wrong . Note they used numbers with 4 decimal places which implies a great order of accuracy .
However the medical professions used deaths per hundred / per thousand / per million etc which is easier for most humans to understand.
They also totally ignored the people who get covid & never fully recover
Then there was the yuck factor
"all these are commonly found in fertilizer , well they are also found in icecream , corn chips, bacon , on your kitchen table etc etc etc .
Secret formulas = nasty things ? well then don't drink Coke a Cola or eat Kentucky Fried Chicken either ( probably not a bad idea actually )
And finally, if you go to their "information page" you will see a subscribe button and a donate button .
Any site that accepts money is a money making business there for the purpose of exploiting the public for the financial gain of the presenter & not a provider of credible public information
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Once again avery well presented production full of things that are totally wrong & have been proven so repeatidly
Hydroxychloroquine is the perfect example, my wife takes it for her Lupis and it works well for her, I took it for my RA and it made me substantially ill however she also has to take other drugs & vitamins to counter act the side effects of it. If there are no side effects of any drug you are taking then the drug is not doing anything and this goes for everything from asprin & vitamin C to stuff like Methtrexate which is so toxic that the hospital staff need full PPE when treating a cancer patient with it .
Hydroxychloroquine was tested worldwide and used in Australia , Brazil , Argentina , India, the UK, Japan & Italy and each country used different doses .
The doseage level use in Brazil & India triggered so many fatal heart attacks the trials were abandoned , every other country that tried using it found it to be ineffective .
I quote from a report that aglomerated all of the available data as of May 2021
Mortality outcomes with hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine in COVID-19 from an international collaborative meta-analysis of randomized trials - Nature Communications
Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have been investigated as a potential treatment for Covid-19 in several clinical trials. Here the authors report a meta-analysis of published and unpublished trials, and show that treatment with hydroxychloroquine for patients with Covid-19 was associated with...
www.nature.com
The video implied a conspiracy by not attributing co-morbidaties on Covid deaths but that is SOP .We found that treatment with hydroxychloroquine is associated with increased mortality in COVID-19 patients, and there is no benefit of chloroquine.
If you had a heart attack while driving , crashed you car and crushed your skull into a lamp post, your cause of death is listed as a crushed skull, not a heart attack so no conspiracy there either .
From day 1 we were told the vaccine was not going to stop you getting covid-19 infections exactly the same way as a flu shot does not stop you from getting the flu .
However the numbers coming out of the UK show that the vaccine does substanially reduce the intensity of a covid infection, reduces the infection transfer rates reduce the hospitalization rate and reduces the death rate.
The numbers coming out of the USA show unvaccinated people are getting infected at a substantially higher rate and suffering more than those who have been vaccinated .
So again no deception .
Like all good conspiracy properganda there were some truths there but the lies & deceptions outweighed them massively.
The largest computer on the planet did modeling 24 hours a day for months running all potential vaccines against the known consequences and interactions with other commonly used drugs.
Most of the possible side effect of the injections are common to other vaccines including the Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) which they made a big thing about also is associated with the flu shots most older people get annually.
What Are the Side Effects of a Flu Shot?
Side effects from the flu shot don’t always occur, but they can range from aches or fever to severe allergic reactions. Learn more.
www.healthline.com
PCR is a process, not a test the actual test is done on what the PCR produces and in Aust at least that is DNA extraction & identification so no chance of fudging our figures .
And if you run percentages the Australian numbers are on par with the USA numbers UK numbers , French numbers , German numbers and in fact all of the numbers from countries with similar medical systems . and their percentage numbers were totally wrong . Note they used numbers with 4 decimal places which implies a great order of accuracy .
However the medical professions used deaths per hundred / per thousand / per million etc which is easier for most humans to understand.
They also totally ignored the people who get covid & never fully recover
Then there was the yuck factor
"all these are commonly found in fertilizer , well they are also found in icecream , corn chips, bacon , on your kitchen table etc etc etc .
Secret formulas = nasty things ? well then don't drink Coke a Cola or eat Kentucky Fried Chicken either ( probably not a bad idea actually )
And finally, if you go to their "information page" you will see a subscribe button and a donate button .
Any site that accepts money is a money making business there for the purpose of exploiting the public for the financial gain of the presenter & not a provider of credible public information
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subjects get barred because people can become nasty & aggressive when they think some on threatens their strongly held beliefs.
However every one so far has been quite polite and recognises each others freedoms to believe what ever they like .
Censorship is the first step towards totalitarianism and tyranny .
All ideas should be free to be expressed provided the person expressing them appreciates the rights of others to either agree or dispute the idea,
Over the years I have probably been to hundreds of public lectures that I did not agree with the subject.
Some times if the arguements were sound & the evidence to support them valid then I came out with a changed mind
I think it was Einstein who said "the only way to prove you have a mind is to change it when presented with evidence to the contry .
One of the very destructive things about the modern media is the idea that ones opinions are set in concrete and if you should ever change an opinion then some how that proves you are defective and untrustworthy .
Even judges are allowed the freedom to change their mind when presented with new evidence just the same as Phil Valentine did after he contracted Covid-19 which unfortunately was too late for him
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Because people are interested in keeping it going and every one is behaving like civilised human beings .I can’t believe that this thread is still going.
Why hasn’t it been locked?
subjects get barred because people can become nasty & aggressive when they think some on threatens their strongly held beliefs.
However every one so far has been quite polite and recognises each others freedoms to believe what ever they like .
Censorship is the first step towards totalitarianism and tyranny .
All ideas should be free to be expressed provided the person expressing them appreciates the rights of others to either agree or dispute the idea,
Over the years I have probably been to hundreds of public lectures that I did not agree with the subject.
Some times if the arguements were sound & the evidence to support them valid then I came out with a changed mind
I think it was Einstein who said "the only way to prove you have a mind is to change it when presented with evidence to the contry .
One of the very destructive things about the modern media is the idea that ones opinions are set in concrete and if you should ever change an opinion then some how that proves you are defective and untrustworthy .
Even judges are allowed the freedom to change their mind when presented with new evidence just the same as Phil Valentine did after he contracted Covid-19 which unfortunately was too late for him
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What was this post originally about? Too many hijackers with not enough to do at home/work. Shoot that's me LOL.
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Pop quiz:
For advice on medical issues, listen to your doctor, or a talk show host?
For advice on lawnmowers, listen to you guys, or my doctor?
(OK, this one is a trick question because my doctor does know about lawnmowers)
/ Bert, you have a lot of patience
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Phil Valentine, a conservative radio talk show host who was a vaccine skeptic and disagreed with mask mandates up until he was diagnosed with COVID-19 last month, has died at age 61.
Pop quiz:
For advice on medical issues, listen to your doctor, or a talk show host?
For advice on lawnmowers, listen to you guys, or my doctor?
(OK, this one is a trick question because my doctor does know about lawnmowers)
/ Bert, you have a lot of patience
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So did Phil die from 19 or another diabetes like condition? THAT is never stated in all these covid deaths. Most all people have either high blood or diabetes for starters.
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Again, to each is own, brother. We can't make decisions for others.
PTmowerMech
Again, to each is own, brother. We can't make decisions for others.
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662,736 have died from Covid in a year and a half, how many people die each year from diabetes? Look it up.So did Phil die from 19 or another diabetes like condition?
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if that’s true why do so many people accept cartoon videos and Facebook posts as medical advice?We can't make decisions for others.
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A lot of this was sponsored by the advertising industry and boosted by the political parties,
USA citizens will argue this point but they are the most brainwashed people on the planet.
The success of Coke a Cola is the prefect proof of this.
Your mind is basically lazy & always takes the least energy path to any conclusion
Magic is based on this
A classic trick is the blind taste test Coke vs Pepsi .
Better than 90% will always say the first one they tried was the best , even when they are trying the same drink each time . ( try it at home at your next BBQ with whatever brew you want )
Now reading is the most brain intensive method of taking in information ( that surprised me ) , Watching is the next hardest & listening is the least energy intensive.
So the brain prioritizes stuff it hears over the other two.
Visually, you do not consciously see detail so if shown 2 identical film clips with identical dialogue, one being real actors and the other a simplified cartoon , you will retain the cartoon over the actors .
Also the simplier the image the more brain power available to store the message which is why childrens books that work well use flat colour with very simple backgrounds .
Back in the 50's research by the political parties revealed that messages spread word of mouth were retained & believed to be true better than 90% of the time while the principle mass media of the day, newspapers scored a lowly 30% while the glossy journals ( including Playboy ) got near 50% and from then on, the "social influencer" was born.
Back then it was the neighbour hosting pre election dinner parties.
Now days it is face book
the basic assumption is that person is my friend so they will not lie to me while that scientist is being paid to cover up some thing sinister .( implied in the anti-vax cartoon )
OR your friend cares about you & your health while that doctor is just making money out of you , is in the pockets of the pharmasutical industry and can not be trusted , just like the mower dealers mechanics.
Remember Brutis's speach after Ceaser was murdered FRIENDS , ROMANS , COUNTRYMEN
Three words designed forge a bond between the crowd and the guilty
Now look at the opening words of just about every speech given by every politican and a lot of social influiencers
They don't say " I am your friend and I am just like you so trust me ", but that is what is implied and what your brain hears .
Very early in the cartoon they bring up Russia
In the brainwashed minds of Americans Russia = evil so without using the word evil they have implied that the vaccine campain is evil .
And yes most Americans consider Russia the be an evil despicable enemy and communism to be the work of the devil , no other country's citizens think that way. including the South Koreans .
I really can not be bothered to go through the cartoon line by line but line by line it is mostly garbage , quotes out of context , missrepresentations , inunendo & conspiracies.
I might note while they associate the vaccine with fertilizer, one of their "know cures" ivermectin is a drug designed to remove parrasites from the gut of Ruminants not viruses from the lungs of primates and as primates don't have a rumen it is highly doubtful that it will do much for people with Covid -19 although it is being tested at the moment.
Kryptonie strikes again. So don't put fertalizer in your arm but put horse pill in your intestines ? really ?
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bertsmobile1
The mind is a very complex thing and no country has done more research on manipulating the mind than the USA. ( sorry not the evil Russians ).
if that’s true why do so many people accept cartoon videos and Facebook posts as medical advice?
A lot of this was sponsored by the advertising industry and boosted by the political parties,
USA citizens will argue this point but they are the most brainwashed people on the planet.
The success of Coke a Cola is the prefect proof of this.
Your mind is basically lazy & always takes the least energy path to any conclusion
Magic is based on this
A classic trick is the blind taste test Coke vs Pepsi .
Better than 90% will always say the first one they tried was the best , even when they are trying the same drink each time . ( try it at home at your next BBQ with whatever brew you want )
Now reading is the most brain intensive method of taking in information ( that surprised me ) , Watching is the next hardest & listening is the least energy intensive.
So the brain prioritizes stuff it hears over the other two.
Visually, you do not consciously see detail so if shown 2 identical film clips with identical dialogue, one being real actors and the other a simplified cartoon , you will retain the cartoon over the actors .
Also the simplier the image the more brain power available to store the message which is why childrens books that work well use flat colour with very simple backgrounds .
Back in the 50's research by the political parties revealed that messages spread word of mouth were retained & believed to be true better than 90% of the time while the principle mass media of the day, newspapers scored a lowly 30% while the glossy journals ( including Playboy ) got near 50% and from then on, the "social influencer" was born.
Back then it was the neighbour hosting pre election dinner parties.
Now days it is face book
the basic assumption is that person is my friend so they will not lie to me while that scientist is being paid to cover up some thing sinister .( implied in the anti-vax cartoon )
OR your friend cares about you & your health while that doctor is just making money out of you , is in the pockets of the pharmasutical industry and can not be trusted , just like the mower dealers mechanics.
Remember Brutis's speach after Ceaser was murdered FRIENDS , ROMANS , COUNTRYMEN
Three words designed forge a bond between the crowd and the guilty
Now look at the opening words of just about every speech given by every politican and a lot of social influiencers
They don't say " I am your friend and I am just like you so trust me ", but that is what is implied and what your brain hears .
Very early in the cartoon they bring up Russia
In the brainwashed minds of Americans Russia = evil so without using the word evil they have implied that the vaccine campain is evil .
And yes most Americans consider Russia the be an evil despicable enemy and communism to be the work of the devil , no other country's citizens think that way. including the South Koreans .
I really can not be bothered to go through the cartoon line by line but line by line it is mostly garbage , quotes out of context , missrepresentations , inunendo & conspiracies.
I might note while they associate the vaccine with fertilizer, one of their "know cures" ivermectin is a drug designed to remove parrasites from the gut of Ruminants not viruses from the lungs of primates and as primates don't have a rumen it is highly doubtful that it will do much for people with Covid -19 although it is being tested at the moment.
Kryptonie strikes again. So don't put fertalizer in your arm but put horse pill in your intestines ? really ?
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PTmowerMech
I have a bad habit of "overthinking" way too many things. Like when someone tells me something, My first reaction is to listen. Then understand what they're saying. Then understand their situation. And then figure out why they even said it.
All the while trashing the unimportant parts of their statements.
At least that's the way I am with having meaningful conversation. It pisses my kids off when I do that. lol
Speaking of Brainwashed... I can't stand rap. But LOVE this song. And this artist.
PTmowerMech
The mind is a very complex thing and no country has done more research on manipulating the mind than the USA. ( sorry not the evil Russians )
A lot of this was sponsored by the advertising industry and boosted by the political parties,
USA citizens will argue this point but they are the most brainwashed people on the planet.
The success of Coke a Cola is the prefect proof of this.
Your mind is basically lazy & always takes the least energy path to any conclusion
Magic is based on this
A classic trick is the blind taste test Coke vs Pepsi .
Better than 90% will always say the first one they tried was the best , even when they are trying the same drink each time . ( try it at home at your next BBQ with whatever brew you want )
I have a bad habit of "overthinking" way too many things. Like when someone tells me something, My first reaction is to listen. Then understand what they're saying. Then understand their situation. And then figure out why they even said it.
All the while trashing the unimportant parts of their statements.
At least that's the way I am with having meaningful conversation. It pisses my kids off when I do that. lol
Speaking of Brainwashed... I can't stand rap. But LOVE this song. And this artist.
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We'll keep the thread open for now because everybody has been polite. Let's keep it that way!
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bertsmobile1
I have always been quite fond of Frank Zappa as a social commentator & philosopher
His take the news we get presented with from 1960
Although it is sort of beat poetry, you could just about rap it .
Not my favourite version of it, the latter 1972 version was mucically a lot more enjoyable
Then the commentry on TV content from 76 is still quite relevent today
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bertsmobile1
Same story for a younger demographic in a media that they will understandI have a bad habit of "overthinking" way too many things. Like when someone tells me something, My first reaction is to listen. Then understand what they're saying. Then understand their situation. And then figure out why they even said it.
All the while trashing the unimportant parts of their statements.
At least that's the way I am with having meaningful conversation. It pisses my kids off when I do that. lol
Speaking of Brainwashed... I can't stand rap. But LOVE this song. And this artist.
I have always been quite fond of Frank Zappa as a social commentator & philosopher
His take the news we get presented with from 1960
Not my favourite version of it, the latter 1972 version was mucically a lot more enjoyable
Then the commentry on TV content from 76 is still quite relevent today
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Sorry I haven't been back to continue. Thanks to Bert for answering my questions (although at first I took "Oz" to mean "he isn't going to answer!") LOL.
I'll have to get back on here later and re-read the replies and reply properly.
Had bro's funeral Wednesday. Today was the first day I really felt "myself" but I haven't felt the desire to make time for this discussion.
I saw a great deal of "virus hysteria" yesterday and today, new levels of bizarre behavior and confused reasoning. I really should have majored in psychology I guess.
I have several yards to mow tomorrow, more brush to clear on Sunday, and a rather intense mowing contract to do Monday or Tuesday. I'll try to reply when I can.
I'll have to get back on here later and re-read the replies and reply properly.
Had bro's funeral Wednesday. Today was the first day I really felt "myself" but I haven't felt the desire to make time for this discussion.
I saw a great deal of "virus hysteria" yesterday and today, new levels of bizarre behavior and confused reasoning. I really should have majored in psychology I guess.
I have several yards to mow tomorrow, more brush to clear on Sunday, and a rather intense mowing contract to do Monday or Tuesday. I'll try to reply when I can.
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Last week we installed water hammer arresters in the house plumbing. Toughest part was the water line feeding the ice maker to the frig. The middle toilet was pretty easy.
Doe you guys cover your roof whirly-birds in winter time? To try and keep some heat in the attic?
Doe you guys cover your roof whirly-birds in winter time? To try and keep some heat in the attic?
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bertsmobile1
Sorry about the funeral, hope everything went well or as well as a funeral can go .
Yes there is a lot of hysteria which is no surprise considering all of the mixed messages coming from both sides . And the fact that new data comes in every day which changes things which just adds to the confusion.
This of course makes people confused and then emotion kicks in and rational thought goes right out the window.
I was at a customers place who had a swimming pool .
Out the front and back was enough santizing gear to wipe out ebola from an African village, garbage bags for used wipes disposable gloves to handle the disposable gloves after you had sanitized your hands then sprayed all your cloths with dissinfectant .
I suggested as it was summer & quite warm, it might be easier just to slip your shoes off, empty their pockets then dive into the water and do a couple of laps ensuring that their heads were fully under water .
He thought this was stupid because then he would have to drain all of the water out of the pool & sanitize that as well.
Eventually the penny dropped and after consulting both his doctor & the pool company ,he upped the chlorine level in the pool and actually rang back to thank me as he had been fighting to get the kids to go through the whole decontamination bit, but jumping into the pool fully clothed they thought was fun.
Now if you really want to get into conspiracies, you might want to think about the way popular medecine divorces people from their own bodies so one has to prepetually go bother your GP, at a price.
While the virus is dangerous, it is also very easy to kill the packets outside the body, a simple swim or lay in the sunlight will do the job just fine .
It is one case when the farmers seem to be a lot better educated than the city folk.
Most farmers know the difference between the 4 common forms of infection , Viral , Bacterial , Fungal & Parrasitic so they understand what an appropriate lever of decontamination is.
City folk just don't seem to get it .
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bertsmobile1
Sorry I haven't been back to continue. Thanks to Bert for answering my questions (although at first I took "Oz" to mean "he isn't going to answer!") LOL.
I'll have to get back on here later and re-read the replies and reply properly.
Had bro's funeral Wednesday. Today was the first day I really felt "myself" but I haven't felt the desire to make time for this discussion.
I saw a great deal of "virus hysteria" yesterday and today, new levels of bizarre behavior and confused reasoning. I really should have majored in psychology I guess.
I have several yards to mow tomorrow, more brush to clear on Sunday, and a rather intense mowing contract to do Monday or Tuesday. I'll try to reply when I can.
Sorry about the funeral, hope everything went well or as well as a funeral can go .
Yes there is a lot of hysteria which is no surprise considering all of the mixed messages coming from both sides . And the fact that new data comes in every day which changes things which just adds to the confusion.
This of course makes people confused and then emotion kicks in and rational thought goes right out the window.
I was at a customers place who had a swimming pool .
Out the front and back was enough santizing gear to wipe out ebola from an African village, garbage bags for used wipes disposable gloves to handle the disposable gloves after you had sanitized your hands then sprayed all your cloths with dissinfectant .
I suggested as it was summer & quite warm, it might be easier just to slip your shoes off, empty their pockets then dive into the water and do a couple of laps ensuring that their heads were fully under water .
He thought this was stupid because then he would have to drain all of the water out of the pool & sanitize that as well.
Eventually the penny dropped and after consulting both his doctor & the pool company ,he upped the chlorine level in the pool and actually rang back to thank me as he had been fighting to get the kids to go through the whole decontamination bit, but jumping into the pool fully clothed they thought was fun.
Now if you really want to get into conspiracies, you might want to think about the way popular medecine divorces people from their own bodies so one has to prepetually go bother your GP, at a price.
While the virus is dangerous, it is also very easy to kill the packets outside the body, a simple swim or lay in the sunlight will do the job just fine .
It is one case when the farmers seem to be a lot better educated than the city folk.
Most farmers know the difference between the 4 common forms of infection , Viral , Bacterial , Fungal & Parrasitic so they understand what an appropriate lever of decontamination is.
City folk just don't seem to get it .
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Thanks. My brother lived life the way he saw fit.....something vastly lacking these days.
Your customer is a nutcase......Cult of Covid.
Sunlight breaks the virus down in 1 minute 40 seconds due to the UV component. That was the last useful bit of information I heard from official sources and that was summer of 2020. I forget when I heard (from CDC) that "3 feet is sufficient distance" and "it's hard to catch from a surface" (also CDC) but like the benefits of sunlight, no one wants to talk about it.
Niece is a nurse and reported to me today "lots of 1-month old babies in the hospital with Covid." I asked her, "since they are all 1-month old, how many of their mothers got vaxxed while they were in the womb?" She doesn't believe the hospital will ever share that tid bit.
Your customer is a nutcase......Cult of Covid.
Sunlight breaks the virus down in 1 minute 40 seconds due to the UV component. That was the last useful bit of information I heard from official sources and that was summer of 2020. I forget when I heard (from CDC) that "3 feet is sufficient distance" and "it's hard to catch from a surface" (also CDC) but like the benefits of sunlight, no one wants to talk about it.
Niece is a nurse and reported to me today "lots of 1-month old babies in the hospital with Covid." I asked her, "since they are all 1-month old, how many of their mothers got vaxxed while they were in the womb?" She doesn't believe the hospital will ever share that tid bit.
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Phil Valentine died of covid he was in good health had good vitamin D levels like he always said was essential to fight off covid. He was my ride home for many years it saddens me greatly that he is gone. There is no way he can be replaced just someone to fill his spot.662,736 have died from Covid in a year and a half, how many people die each year from diabetes? Look it up.
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Just about all viruses are destroyed by exposure to UV rays but because the doseage of UV is yet to be determined and the actions of idiots who do not understand that UV only works on virus packets that are outside the body the health authorities are reluctant to make a big thing about it.
Down here we get near 3 times the UV that falls on the equator and of course clouds & atmospheric dust can cut that drastically .
From memory the recommendation was 15 minutes of direct sunlight. In fact sunlight kills nearly all virus packets .
And the trick is it has to be direct sunlight so if you wanted to decontaminate a carton, all 6 faces would need to be rotated so they faced the sun to guarantee efficency
It was unfortunate that when they thought that droplets was the only method of transferance , too much was reported and what was reported was done very badly .
Not a single news report mentioned that they were laboratory tests, done under safe lights ( leds in most cases ) in temperature controlled rooms at STP
All people heard was "THE KILLER VIRUS CAN LIVE FOR UP TO 4 DAYS ON SURFACES " after which surface spray sales went through the roof .
There were reports that people had been basking under UV to prevent getting covid and even people who choked after poking UV steralizing lamps down their throats .
One of my handy man customers told me he was flat chat replacing door knobs for copper ones after the surface life was widely reported.
These people will of course start suffering from copper poisoning if they don't keep the handles clean & polished and if you polish the copper it is not effective in killing viruses.
When Covid hit I was in the middle of a crippling attack of RA so could not walk for days on end so had way too much time to sit at the computer & do research .
The difference between what came from primary sites , secondary sites and what got into news and social media was astounding .
The good thing about being down here is we have a government run media organization , the ABC and despite it slowly deteriorating to commercial media standards, they still do a lot of quality work and in particular is a podcast called CoronaCast which for a while was their No 1 download and made No 30 worldwide . It was ( and still is ) good because it gave the results from lab tests , then explained what they meant, how valid the results were and what they meant to the public , although most of what got included was the answers to questions from the plulic which shows just how misinformed the general public was ( and still is ) .
Prime example was the use of chlorine as a dissinfectant , well known and used for centuries .
So from that you got idiot comments like the too widely publicised one from President Trump about injecting / injesting bleach .
This of course then prompted the idea that any drug with chlorine in it had to work, hence the hydroxychloroquine myth made worse by President Trump telling everyone he takes it daily.
I would assume this would be to counter RA or Lupus and from watching him him move he very well could have either one and by his size I doubt he would follow a low potassium & phosphorus diet to control the conditions.
From that came the chloroquinines cure myth followed buy the strait quinine treatment myths
From that came all of the idiots conflating malaria, which is a parasite infection with Covid which is a viral infection because the symptoms are very similar .
Down here we get near 3 times the UV that falls on the equator and of course clouds & atmospheric dust can cut that drastically .
From memory the recommendation was 15 minutes of direct sunlight. In fact sunlight kills nearly all virus packets .
And the trick is it has to be direct sunlight so if you wanted to decontaminate a carton, all 6 faces would need to be rotated so they faced the sun to guarantee efficency
It was unfortunate that when they thought that droplets was the only method of transferance , too much was reported and what was reported was done very badly .
Not a single news report mentioned that they were laboratory tests, done under safe lights ( leds in most cases ) in temperature controlled rooms at STP
All people heard was "THE KILLER VIRUS CAN LIVE FOR UP TO 4 DAYS ON SURFACES " after which surface spray sales went through the roof .
There were reports that people had been basking under UV to prevent getting covid and even people who choked after poking UV steralizing lamps down their throats .
One of my handy man customers told me he was flat chat replacing door knobs for copper ones after the surface life was widely reported.
These people will of course start suffering from copper poisoning if they don't keep the handles clean & polished and if you polish the copper it is not effective in killing viruses.
When Covid hit I was in the middle of a crippling attack of RA so could not walk for days on end so had way too much time to sit at the computer & do research .
The difference between what came from primary sites , secondary sites and what got into news and social media was astounding .
The good thing about being down here is we have a government run media organization , the ABC and despite it slowly deteriorating to commercial media standards, they still do a lot of quality work and in particular is a podcast called CoronaCast which for a while was their No 1 download and made No 30 worldwide . It was ( and still is ) good because it gave the results from lab tests , then explained what they meant, how valid the results were and what they meant to the public , although most of what got included was the answers to questions from the plulic which shows just how misinformed the general public was ( and still is ) .
Prime example was the use of chlorine as a dissinfectant , well known and used for centuries .
So from that you got idiot comments like the too widely publicised one from President Trump about injecting / injesting bleach .
This of course then prompted the idea that any drug with chlorine in it had to work, hence the hydroxychloroquine myth made worse by President Trump telling everyone he takes it daily.
I would assume this would be to counter RA or Lupus and from watching him him move he very well could have either one and by his size I doubt he would follow a low potassium & phosphorus diet to control the conditions.
From that came the chloroquinines cure myth followed buy the strait quinine treatment myths
From that came all of the idiots conflating malaria, which is a parasite infection with Covid which is a viral infection because the symptoms are very similar .
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hlw49
When I started this thread I had no idea it would go this long. A
And the CDC told us to stay inside and keep 6 feet apart wear a mask even in your own home around your own family. Shees what a bunch of idiots. The person responsible for all this is running the show and we are paying him over $400,000.00 a year Anthony Fauci. He started this gain of function research here under Obama. Obama realized it was too dangerous and shut him down immediately. Fauci took it to Wuhan and had it financed by us through some other research group. We have the fox guarding the hen house. He needs to be fired and tried for crimes against humanity.
All these difference variants are not mutating normally through nature they are mutating in the Wuhan lab and being turned loose on the world by China. JMHO Be Safe and God Bless
Thanks. My brother lived life the way he saw fit.....something vastly lacking these days.
Your customer is a nutcase......Cult of Covid.
Sunlight breaks the virus down in 1 minute 40 seconds due to the UV component. That was the last useful bit of information I heard from official sources and that was summer of 2020. I forget when I heard (from CDC) that "3 feet is sufficient distance" and "it's hard to catch from a surface" (also CDC) but like the benefits of sunlight, no one wants to talk about it.
Niece is a nurse and reported to me today "lots of 1-month old babies in the hospital with Covid." I asked her, "since they are all 1-month old, how many of their mothers got vaxxed while they were in the womb?" She doesn't believe the hospital will ever share that tid bit.
And the CDC told us to stay inside and keep 6 feet apart wear a mask even in your own home around your own family. Shees what a bunch of idiots. The person responsible for all this is running the show and we are paying him over $400,000.00 a year Anthony Fauci. He started this gain of function research here under Obama. Obama realized it was too dangerous and shut him down immediately. Fauci took it to Wuhan and had it financed by us through some other research group. We have the fox guarding the hen house. He needs to be fired and tried for crimes against humanity.
All these difference variants are not mutating normally through nature they are mutating in the Wuhan lab and being turned loose on the world by China. JMHO Be Safe and God Bless
#142
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bertsmobile1
Peoples ability to fight off covid, or any other virus for that matter is all about the strength of their immune system which is initally down to genes.
After that all we can do is tinker around the edges.
There is just about nothing one can do to prevent catching it apart from isolation, filtering the air you breathe etc .
What makes Covid particularly difficullt is it can also be contact transferred
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bertsmobile1
Sorry for your loss, you obviously were close & miss his company.Phil Valentine died of covid he was in good health had good vitamin D levels like he always said was essential to fight off covid. He was my ride home for many years it saddens me greatly that he is gone. There is no way he can be replaced just someone to fill his spot.
Peoples ability to fight off covid, or any other virus for that matter is all about the strength of their immune system which is initally down to genes.
After that all we can do is tinker around the edges.
There is just about nothing one can do to prevent catching it apart from isolation, filtering the air you breathe etc .
What makes Covid particularly difficullt is it can also be contact transferred
#143
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bertsmobile1
You also have no understanding of evolution & how evolution works.
And no understanding of how selective breeding , which humans have used for thousands of year in agriculture & husbandry, actually works .
Viruses mutate naturally , it is almost identical to you getting older and your body cells changing.
Now most of the mutations die out because they are weaker than the original virus, this is the basis of evolution of everything .
The odd one however will be better , stronger, able to reproduce more or earlier so this one will take over, Delta is doing exactly this.
The flu virus mutates all the time which is why the flu vaccine has to change every year .
After that is is just a matter of numbers
The more people who have covid, the more mutations that will naturally occur which is why the more virulent forms are coming out of third world countries where medical care is not as good as it is in first world countries and infection rates are substantially higher.
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bertsmobile1
If you really believe this then it shows you have little to no understanding of virology and virology researchWhen I started this thread I had no idea it would go this long. A
And the CDC told us to stay inside and keep 6 feet apart wear a mask even in your own home around your own family. Shees what a bunch of idiots. The person responsible for all this is running the show and we are paying him over $400,000.00 a year Anthony Fauci. He started this gain of function research here under Obama. Obama realized it was too dangerous and shut him down immediately. Fauci took it to Wuhan and had it financed by us through some other research group. We have the fox guarding the hen house. He needs to be fired and tried for crimes against humanity.
All these difference variants are not mutating normally through nature they are mutating in the Wuhan lab and being turned loose on the world by China. JMHO Be Safe and God Bless
You also have no understanding of evolution & how evolution works.
And no understanding of how selective breeding , which humans have used for thousands of year in agriculture & husbandry, actually works .
Viruses mutate naturally , it is almost identical to you getting older and your body cells changing.
Now most of the mutations die out because they are weaker than the original virus, this is the basis of evolution of everything .
The odd one however will be better , stronger, able to reproduce more or earlier so this one will take over, Delta is doing exactly this.
The flu virus mutates all the time which is why the flu vaccine has to change every year .
After that is is just a matter of numbers
The more people who have covid, the more mutations that will naturally occur which is why the more virulent forms are coming out of third world countries where medical care is not as good as it is in first world countries and infection rates are substantially higher.
#144
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hlw49
Just seems funny to me that none of these new mutations are getting weaker. Just stronger. How many new ones do we have now? We will never get rid of this virus will just have to learn to live with it or die of it.
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hlw49
If you really believe this then it shows you have little to no understanding of virology and virology research
You also have no understanding of evolution & how evolution works.
And no understanding of how selective breeding , which humans have used for thousands of year in agriculture & husbandry, actually works .
Viruses mutate naturally , it is almost identical to you getting older and your body cells changing.
Now most of the mutations die out because they are weaker than the original virus, this is the basis of evolution of everything .
The odd one however will be better , stronger, able to reproduce more or earlier so this one will take over, Delta is doing exactly this.
The flu virus mutates all the time which is why the flu vaccine has to change every year .
After that is is just a matter of numbers
The more people who have covid, the more mutations that will naturally occur which is why the more virulent forms are coming out of third world countries where medical care is not as good as it is in first world countries and infection rates are substantially higher.
Just seems funny to me that none of these new mutations are getting weaker. Just stronger. How many new ones do we have now? We will never get rid of this virus will just have to learn to live with it or die of it.
#145
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bertsmobile1
A lot of the people who had no symptoms, or recover very quickly could have been infected with a weaker mutation that the body's own immune system killed off inside their bodies.
People forget you get fever , runny eyes & nose because your body is trying to kill the virus which eventually it does which is why the infection only lasts 2 to 3 weeks.
This accounts for the fact that some people can infect dozens of people while others infect no one else.
But unless you do a full DNA test on each & every case you can not say that Bill got covid from Tom who got it from Mary etc etc etc.
The authorities only do DNA tests when the infected person has no known infection source so it can be linked or traced .
Now because of this the published R number is actually wrong because it is averaged out between the "super spreaders" and the non spreaders.
A simple example is a single infected person went to a funeral in Wilcannia NSW, a remote outback town of mostly native people .
At that funeral he gave it 28 people and if each of those people gave it to the same number of people the numbers of infections would have been 784 after the first 2 days.
However it was only 36 and of those 36 a lot were 4 or 5 people from the same household so most of the 28 passed it on to only one or fewer people .
This could well have been because what they exhaled were weaker than that they originally breathed in, ie an inferior mutation .
But the health department is only worried about the actual mass number which after 8 days ( 4 to 5 infection cycles for Delta ) is only just over 200 which gives you an R number of 2.3 not the 28 of the source infection. From the health department's point of view, it makes no difference between lots of small spreaders or just a couple of big spreaders, the outbreak will not be overcome till the population R number becomes < 1
The usual population of Wilcannia is around 700 but 200 or so people came into town for traditional mourning ( called sorry business )
And according to this report they are up to 12,000 mutations and counting
And according to this report only 14 are a problem so roughly only 1 in 1000 are bigger, better, stronger than what they mutated from.
But saying that will not get click throughs or sell newspapers .
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bertsmobile1
The weaker ones die out so they do not make the news because they are weak and do not infect sufficient people.Just seems funny to me that none of these new mutations are getting weaker. Just stronger. How many new ones do we have now? We will never get rid of this virus will just have to learn to live with it or die of it.
A lot of the people who had no symptoms, or recover very quickly could have been infected with a weaker mutation that the body's own immune system killed off inside their bodies.
People forget you get fever , runny eyes & nose because your body is trying to kill the virus which eventually it does which is why the infection only lasts 2 to 3 weeks.
This accounts for the fact that some people can infect dozens of people while others infect no one else.
But unless you do a full DNA test on each & every case you can not say that Bill got covid from Tom who got it from Mary etc etc etc.
The authorities only do DNA tests when the infected person has no known infection source so it can be linked or traced .
Now because of this the published R number is actually wrong because it is averaged out between the "super spreaders" and the non spreaders.
A simple example is a single infected person went to a funeral in Wilcannia NSW, a remote outback town of mostly native people .
At that funeral he gave it 28 people and if each of those people gave it to the same number of people the numbers of infections would have been 784 after the first 2 days.
However it was only 36 and of those 36 a lot were 4 or 5 people from the same household so most of the 28 passed it on to only one or fewer people .
This could well have been because what they exhaled were weaker than that they originally breathed in, ie an inferior mutation .
But the health department is only worried about the actual mass number which after 8 days ( 4 to 5 infection cycles for Delta ) is only just over 200 which gives you an R number of 2.3 not the 28 of the source infection. From the health department's point of view, it makes no difference between lots of small spreaders or just a couple of big spreaders, the outbreak will not be overcome till the population R number becomes < 1
The usual population of Wilcannia is around 700 but 200 or so people came into town for traditional mourning ( called sorry business )
And according to this report they are up to 12,000 mutations and counting
And according to this report only 14 are a problem so roughly only 1 in 1000 are bigger, better, stronger than what they mutated from.
But saying that will not get click throughs or sell newspapers .
#146
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MowManWV
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MowManWV
If anyone still believes this is "about your health" I have some beachfront property I'll let go for a fraction of market value.
However, the thing is.....well......it's a new religion. The believers can't see that of course. They see our dissent as threats to their belief system.
Excellent read on the subject. Three articles.
Cult of Covid Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
However, the thing is.....well......it's a new religion. The believers can't see that of course. They see our dissent as threats to their belief system.
Excellent read on the subject. Three articles.
Cult of Covid Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
#147
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bertsmobile1
Thanks for posting the link, it is an article that I would never have come across otherwise .
For starter I will repeat what I stated earlier
Any site with a subscribe or donate button is a money making business, not a free purveyour of the "truth" as this site presents itself .
Well I suffered through Mr Hopkings rambellings but it took a lot of effort and self control.
A beautiful piece of very well written material containing every con artists trick in the book in order to convince the apoplectic & easily led who never learned to question what they read & why it was written, right down the garden path.
Right off the start he calls up all of the undisputed nasties we all know about, Hitler , Stalin etc so your mind is preconditioned to think evil mean & nasty.
Then he sows the seed of distrust the the "fake photos" that were never published so from then all every covid related photo is considerd to be fake.
Selectively pull out what was published as an UPPER LIMIT of possible fatalities if the virus was not controlled and uses the failue to reach those levels as proof that all of the numbers are fantasy
And finally come in with th "I am your friend here to save you routine.
Thus from then on on the reader has been subconsiously told
1) Every one connected with Covid is evil
2) Every thing you get told or shown is fake
3) all of the numbers are false
4) By not complying you are some sort of hero fighting the cause of "Truth Justice & the American Way"
5) Mr Hopkins is the only person telling the truth and he is your boosom buddy .
A brilliant piece of writing
He likes to supposedly quote figures from authorities as being true if they support his view then latter says they can not be trusted when they don't and nowhere is there any means of checking what he has written is an accurate extraction, which it is not or exactly where he got it from.
I have no intention of going through it line by line but it is basically all the tricks of logic used by snake oil salesmen .
To quote Einstein once again,
" The chances of a conspiracy being maintained is inversely proportional to the number of people involved in perpetrating it "
You might like to read This article so you can try to understand how he is manipulating you .
The question I always find hard to answer is why do they do it ? fame ? notariety ? usually it is financial gain but it take a bit of digging to find the money tail
the idea that every government on the planet is spending a fortune for no good reason and are all joined in some sort of conspiracy against their own populations.is just unbelievable .
And he even fluffs the R value
If R is < 1 then you can not get an increasing number of people getting infected because if on average every person lifects less than one person , the overall infection number is going to decrease on a daily basis .
If you want to believe that every hospital , nursing home , & government are faking the covid deaths then get the overall total deaths in any year, say 2019, a number that would be hard to fake, then get the 2018 total deaths, multiply it by 1,2 ( allows for population increase year to year ) the subtract it from the total deaths for 2019.
The remaining number are extra deaths for 2019 assuming the rate of deaths from all other causes was constant between 2018 & 2019 which they wern't because a lot of them dropped drastically like Legioneers , food poisoning & flu because we were finally practicing proper hygine.
Some , like domestic violence & suiside did increase so unless you want to believe than 500,000 extra people killed themselves last year, then the number speak for themselves.
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bertsmobile1
If anyone still believes this is "about your health" I have some beachfront property I'll let go for a fraction of market value.
However, the thing is.....well......it's a new religion. The believers can't see that of course. They see our dissent as threats to their belief system.
Excellent read on the subject. Three articles.
Cult of Covid Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Thanks for posting the link, it is an article that I would never have come across otherwise .
For starter I will repeat what I stated earlier
Any site with a subscribe or donate button is a money making business, not a free purveyour of the "truth" as this site presents itself .
Well I suffered through Mr Hopkings rambellings but it took a lot of effort and self control.
A beautiful piece of very well written material containing every con artists trick in the book in order to convince the apoplectic & easily led who never learned to question what they read & why it was written, right down the garden path.
Right off the start he calls up all of the undisputed nasties we all know about, Hitler , Stalin etc so your mind is preconditioned to think evil mean & nasty.
Then he sows the seed of distrust the the "fake photos" that were never published so from then all every covid related photo is considerd to be fake.
Selectively pull out what was published as an UPPER LIMIT of possible fatalities if the virus was not controlled and uses the failue to reach those levels as proof that all of the numbers are fantasy
And finally come in with th "I am your friend here to save you routine.
Thus from then on on the reader has been subconsiously told
1) Every one connected with Covid is evil
2) Every thing you get told or shown is fake
3) all of the numbers are false
4) By not complying you are some sort of hero fighting the cause of "Truth Justice & the American Way"
5) Mr Hopkins is the only person telling the truth and he is your boosom buddy .
A brilliant piece of writing
He likes to supposedly quote figures from authorities as being true if they support his view then latter says they can not be trusted when they don't and nowhere is there any means of checking what he has written is an accurate extraction, which it is not or exactly where he got it from.
I have no intention of going through it line by line but it is basically all the tricks of logic used by snake oil salesmen .
To quote Einstein once again,
" The chances of a conspiracy being maintained is inversely proportional to the number of people involved in perpetrating it "
You might like to read This article so you can try to understand how he is manipulating you .
The question I always find hard to answer is why do they do it ? fame ? notariety ? usually it is financial gain but it take a bit of digging to find the money tail
the idea that every government on the planet is spending a fortune for no good reason and are all joined in some sort of conspiracy against their own populations.is just unbelievable .
And he even fluffs the R value
If R is < 1 then you can not get an increasing number of people getting infected because if on average every person lifects less than one person , the overall infection number is going to decrease on a daily basis .
If you want to believe that every hospital , nursing home , & government are faking the covid deaths then get the overall total deaths in any year, say 2019, a number that would be hard to fake, then get the 2018 total deaths, multiply it by 1,2 ( allows for population increase year to year ) the subtract it from the total deaths for 2019.
The remaining number are extra deaths for 2019 assuming the rate of deaths from all other causes was constant between 2018 & 2019 which they wern't because a lot of them dropped drastically like Legioneers , food poisoning & flu because we were finally practicing proper hygine.
Some , like domestic violence & suiside did increase so unless you want to believe than 500,000 extra people killed themselves last year, then the number speak for themselves.
#148
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bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
One of the massive problems with the web is the way it customizes your searches .
So if you spend a lot of time reading conspiracy theories then it will automatically send you to similar articles so it becomes a closed self feeding loop.
Just the same as because i visit a lot of mowing sits Google always sends to similar pages when I do a search ( which is why I try not to use Google .
So if you spend a lot of time reading conspiracy theories then it will automatically send you to similar articles so it becomes a closed self feeding loop.
Just the same as because i visit a lot of mowing sits Google always sends to similar pages when I do a search ( which is why I try not to use Google .
#150
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MowManWV
M
MowManWV
Bert,
You'll call out the article's author but don't seem to notice the constant propaganda from govt. and media. I type this not with anger or hate but with sadness.......I think you chose the blue pill.
What will it take? A friend believes that it will have to be the massive die out coming this year or within 5. He believes (and I suspect) there will be a lot of deaths this coming flu season due to ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement) where mRNA "vaccines" cause the body's immune system to shut down. The unvaxxed will be blamed. That's already the narrative "the vaccines are so effective the vaxxed remain at risk from the unvaxxed." R I G H T. What's being tried in Australia right now with the draconian state smashdown on personal liberty will be tried elsewhere.
However, since there is still a massive control group (the unvaxxed) it's going to be hard to keep the charade going. This explains why the cabal is getting more and more desperate to get those shots into arms.
And discussion forums are locking down the topic, just like Glocktalk.com locked down all political discussion last February when their internet host shut down AR15.com. Defensivecarry.com recently locked down Covid discussion even though the discussions were always friendly and respectful. Were they scared of being deplatformed like AR15.com was? Are the moderators worried they made the wrong decision regarding an experimental drug put into their bodies? Once in, it can never come out.
A friend's wife took the jabs, against his wishes. He tells me "she did it to be a 'good citizen' and 'so this will end.'" Now that it hasn't ended, she is still told to wear a compliance symbol, she is second guessing herself, but it's too late for her. As he put it "I can get into your boat any time but you can never get into mine."
Now I do not believe all the shots are "vaccine," I honestly believe about half are saline shots. You can't kill off 50% of the population at once, you've got to spread it out.
That might explain why the shots are so ineffective--------they were never injected in the first place. It might explain why some never notice anything, others get terribly ill, dormant shingles virus gets triggered, some develop terrible diseases, and a few tens of thousands have died.
My dad never noticed a change, nor did an aunt. Another aunt developed shingles the next day.
I can't know..........and once lied to I stop believing the liar. I will continue to pursue fitness, continue to take increased vitamins, continue to stock up on ivermectin. I will continue to speak out. I will not comply and I will not submit.
*Ivermectin isn't so much for me, I have plenty to overcome any China Virus infection.....it's mainly for family and friends that didn't prepare.
You'll call out the article's author but don't seem to notice the constant propaganda from govt. and media. I type this not with anger or hate but with sadness.......I think you chose the blue pill.
What will it take? A friend believes that it will have to be the massive die out coming this year or within 5. He believes (and I suspect) there will be a lot of deaths this coming flu season due to ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement) where mRNA "vaccines" cause the body's immune system to shut down. The unvaxxed will be blamed. That's already the narrative "the vaccines are so effective the vaxxed remain at risk from the unvaxxed." R I G H T. What's being tried in Australia right now with the draconian state smashdown on personal liberty will be tried elsewhere.
However, since there is still a massive control group (the unvaxxed) it's going to be hard to keep the charade going. This explains why the cabal is getting more and more desperate to get those shots into arms.
And discussion forums are locking down the topic, just like Glocktalk.com locked down all political discussion last February when their internet host shut down AR15.com. Defensivecarry.com recently locked down Covid discussion even though the discussions were always friendly and respectful. Were they scared of being deplatformed like AR15.com was? Are the moderators worried they made the wrong decision regarding an experimental drug put into their bodies? Once in, it can never come out.
A friend's wife took the jabs, against his wishes. He tells me "she did it to be a 'good citizen' and 'so this will end.'" Now that it hasn't ended, she is still told to wear a compliance symbol, she is second guessing herself, but it's too late for her. As he put it "I can get into your boat any time but you can never get into mine."
Now I do not believe all the shots are "vaccine," I honestly believe about half are saline shots. You can't kill off 50% of the population at once, you've got to spread it out.
That might explain why the shots are so ineffective--------they were never injected in the first place. It might explain why some never notice anything, others get terribly ill, dormant shingles virus gets triggered, some develop terrible diseases, and a few tens of thousands have died.
My dad never noticed a change, nor did an aunt. Another aunt developed shingles the next day.
I can't know..........and once lied to I stop believing the liar. I will continue to pursue fitness, continue to take increased vitamins, continue to stock up on ivermectin. I will continue to speak out. I will not comply and I will not submit.
*Ivermectin isn't so much for me, I have plenty to overcome any China Virus infection.....it's mainly for family and friends that didn't prepare.
#151
StarTech
StarTech
Well that is your option as it is your option to step in front of a freight train.
With all my closest family except one I just don't give a hoot as what others won't do to try to protect themselves. Many are just making this into a lack of freedom issue. Well for me I am vaccinated for Covid and large array of other diseases as most of them give to me when I was two years old so I could travel to Germany. I also was give two vaccines while I was in high school. I also get the lockjaw shot every few years as I deal with a lot rusty metals.
But as for others I couldn't care less that one drops dead the next second for being an idiot. I am not even a good Samaritan anymore as too many people are sue happy even when you try to help them. Matter of fact the few people around me the better.
And I just understand why someone would a deworner to try to kill a virus. They are two completely different things. Besides the dewormer is not even dosed for humans as horses and cows are huge animals. Taking something that is dose a 1000 lb animal is way too for a 200 lb human. All you are doing is making the dewormer to become a prescribe only vet med just like the nuts that caused Terramycin (oxytetracycline) to become a vet prescribe only med even when I use it on my honeybees.
With all my closest family except one I just don't give a hoot as what others won't do to try to protect themselves. Many are just making this into a lack of freedom issue. Well for me I am vaccinated for Covid and large array of other diseases as most of them give to me when I was two years old so I could travel to Germany. I also was give two vaccines while I was in high school. I also get the lockjaw shot every few years as I deal with a lot rusty metals.
But as for others I couldn't care less that one drops dead the next second for being an idiot. I am not even a good Samaritan anymore as too many people are sue happy even when you try to help them. Matter of fact the few people around me the better.
And I just understand why someone would a deworner to try to kill a virus. They are two completely different things. Besides the dewormer is not even dosed for humans as horses and cows are huge animals. Taking something that is dose a 1000 lb animal is way too for a 200 lb human. All you are doing is making the dewormer to become a prescribe only vet med just like the nuts that caused Terramycin (oxytetracycline) to become a vet prescribe only med even when I use it on my honeybees.
#152
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
That's why you don't take much of the dewormer, 1ml for 100 lbs of body weight in humans.
Japan gave it the greenlight to treat covid.
Japan gave it the greenlight to treat covid.
#153
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bertsmobile1
I could travel the 42km from home to the workshop every day but I chose to stay at the shop.
I have travelled the 22 km to my parts suppliers 6 times and they are in one of the hot spots.
However I can not drive 1 km down the road to customers house to fix their mowers but they can come here .
So yes I am not happy with the way the government is responding , I think it is badly done with way too much politicing . And I will remember that at election time .
Also they continually victim blame the ethnic & lower classes ( as President Trump did with the Mexicans ) in order to make people forget that the real criminals are the Ministers for Transport & Health because it was in their juristriction that the breech of quarrentine that lead to the whole outbreak occurred.
Even worse is the hire car driver who should have not been allowed to pick up air crew from the airport because he was neither vaccinated, nor had any PPE was in clear breach of the normal ( pre-Covid ) Public Health ( health minister) & the Public Passenger Vehicle ( transport minister ) Acts , and to top this off at the very time Typhoid Mary was being driven to his hotel there were 20 ( or more ) transport inspectors down at the domestic airport harrassing taxi & hire car drivers ( I used to be one ) in order to breech them for things like dirty ash trays or smoking inside their cabs .
It really comes down to a personal beliefs as to weather you think that your "rights" to do what you please , when you please for what ever reason you please is more important than the greater health of the community you reside in and that is unfortunately a some what personnal choice .
I would rather suffer come restrictions than be responsible for serious illness or death happening to others .
When it is all said & done, it is a virus that can not exist outside a host ( you ) for more than 4 days and within a host for more than a month.
So with proper isolation & quarrintine the entire planet could have erradicated it in a couple of months but governments decided that maintaining the dividends to Ford , Walmart etc shareholders was more important than saving the lives and jobs of millions and if you really need a conspiracy that is where to look .
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bertsmobile1
Totally unnecessary but I am considered an essential industry so it does not apply to mebert.....how are you liking that 5 km travel restriction?
Necessary?
I could travel the 42km from home to the workshop every day but I chose to stay at the shop.
I have travelled the 22 km to my parts suppliers 6 times and they are in one of the hot spots.
However I can not drive 1 km down the road to customers house to fix their mowers but they can come here .
So yes I am not happy with the way the government is responding , I think it is badly done with way too much politicing . And I will remember that at election time .
Also they continually victim blame the ethnic & lower classes ( as President Trump did with the Mexicans ) in order to make people forget that the real criminals are the Ministers for Transport & Health because it was in their juristriction that the breech of quarrentine that lead to the whole outbreak occurred.
Even worse is the hire car driver who should have not been allowed to pick up air crew from the airport because he was neither vaccinated, nor had any PPE was in clear breach of the normal ( pre-Covid ) Public Health ( health minister) & the Public Passenger Vehicle ( transport minister ) Acts , and to top this off at the very time Typhoid Mary was being driven to his hotel there were 20 ( or more ) transport inspectors down at the domestic airport harrassing taxi & hire car drivers ( I used to be one ) in order to breech them for things like dirty ash trays or smoking inside their cabs .
It really comes down to a personal beliefs as to weather you think that your "rights" to do what you please , when you please for what ever reason you please is more important than the greater health of the community you reside in and that is unfortunately a some what personnal choice .
I would rather suffer come restrictions than be responsible for serious illness or death happening to others .
When it is all said & done, it is a virus that can not exist outside a host ( you ) for more than 4 days and within a host for more than a month.
So with proper isolation & quarrintine the entire planet could have erradicated it in a couple of months but governments decided that maintaining the dividends to Ford , Walmart etc shareholders was more important than saving the lives and jobs of millions and if you really need a conspiracy that is where to look .
#154
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bertsmobile1
The Chinese economy has been the hardest hit , we feel it in Australia first because we supply China with about 20% of their premium food and 60% of their raw materials.
They currently are having a political stouch with our government and used that to mask the fact that they have nowhere to store the excess steel & aluminium they have been making.
So now they have slashed production without loosing face .
The articles you linked to also claim that Covid 19 was biological warfare which is again rubbish, it was the result of POVERTY as was the previous Covid outbreaks , MERS , Swine Flu & Avian Flu .
If there are people getting saline shots then that is most likely the results of criminal greed like all of the fake medicines being sold on line.
Down here it is not going to happen as the shots are all paid for by the government so the clinic orders 20,000 shots and they get paid for injecting 20,000 shots and we have national medical data base so they can not claim for shots that were tipped down the sink or sold into the black market .
Because you do not understand that every one is different so vaccines will offer different levels of protection to different people you have to invent a reason ( saline shots ) for the natural variations in protection level afforded and of course there is also the strength of the packets that infect people .
And I also see you refuse to believe that hundreds of thousands have died because once again it is easier for the brain to make up a conspiracey than to actually do the maths several different ways , not much divorced from throwing virgins into the volcano to apease the invented volcano God to account for what you do not understand.
Then you have adopted the defensive stance instantly making a conclusion I was attacking mr Hopkings , which I did not in fact I am in awre of his writing skills and what I refute is his conclusions .
If I wanted to attack him then I would go searching for motives appart from the 3/10 of 1¢ he made from me reading his ramblings .
Most of the problems that behest Americans ( declining standard of living , declining standard of health & declining life expecentcy ) are a direct result of the political parties.
From about the Regan Presidency there was a big shift in political campaining intended to split the population into the Reds & the Blues because once you have done that it is easy to convince those who wear red undies that everything the blue undies wearers do is evil mean & wicked , and visa versa.
Thus they no longer had to do the hard work of explaining what legislation was going to do , why it was being introduced & who would be affected by it .
Quite simple every thingthey say is a lie & everything I say s gospel truth ( always good to evoke a diety ) .
After that it was just a case of recruiting 1 more deciple into your church than the other side so you win the power or in the case of US elections make it almost impossible for the people who wear the wrong colour undies to vote because that is easier & cheaper than getting people with the right colour undies to get off their bums & vote.
Now I believe in your right to speak out with whatever misconcieptions you want to preach , but each & every time I will counter act with sufficient information to allows others who want to know to identify cheap tricks and fraudlent claims.
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bertsmobile1
Firstly , you use the derrogative term that President Trump coined "China Virus" as if it was a deliberate act.Bert,
You'll call out the article's author but don't seem to notice the constant propaganda from govt. and media. I type this not with anger or hate but with sadness.......I think you chose the blue pill.
What will it take? A friend believes that it will have to be the massive die out coming this year or within 5. He believes (and I suspect) there will be a lot of deaths this coming flu season due to ADE (Antibody Dependent Enhancement) where mRNA "vaccines" cause the body's immune system to shut down. The unvaxxed will be blamed. That's already the narrative "the vaccines are so effective the vaxxed remain at risk from the unvaxxed." R I G H T. What's being tried in Australia right now with the draconian state smashdown on personal liberty will be tried elsewhere.
However, since there is still a massive control group (the unvaxxed) it's going to be hard to keep the charade going. This explains why the cabal is getting more and more desperate to get those shots into arms.
And discussion forums are locking down the topic, just like Glocktalk.com locked down all political discussion last February when their internet host shut down AR15.com. Defensivecarry.com recently locked down Covid discussion even though the discussions were always friendly and respectful. Were they scared of being deplatformed like AR15.com was? Are the moderators worried they made the wrong decision regarding an experimental drug put into their bodies? Once in, it can never come out.
A friend's wife took the jabs, against his wishes. He tells me "she did it to be a 'good citizen' and 'so this will end.'" Now that it hasn't ended, she is still told to wear a compliance symbol, she is second guessing herself, but it's too late for her. As he put it "I can get into your boat any time but you can never get into mine."
Now I do not believe all the shots are "vaccine," I honestly believe about half are saline shots. You can't kill off 50% of the population at once, you've got to spread it out.
That might explain why the shots are so ineffective--------they were never injected in the first place. It might explain why some never notice anything, others get terribly ill, dormant shingles virus gets triggered, some develop terrible diseases, and a few tens of thousands have died.
My dad never noticed a change, nor did an aunt. Another aunt developed shingles the next day.
I can't know..........and once lied to I stop believing the liar. I will continue to pursue fitness, continue to take increased vitamins, continue to stock up on ivermectin. I will continue to speak out. I will not comply and I will not submit.
*Ivermectin isn't so much for me, I have plenty to overcome any China Virus infection.....it's mainly for family and friends that didn't prepare.
The Chinese economy has been the hardest hit , we feel it in Australia first because we supply China with about 20% of their premium food and 60% of their raw materials.
They currently are having a political stouch with our government and used that to mask the fact that they have nowhere to store the excess steel & aluminium they have been making.
So now they have slashed production without loosing face .
The articles you linked to also claim that Covid 19 was biological warfare which is again rubbish, it was the result of POVERTY as was the previous Covid outbreaks , MERS , Swine Flu & Avian Flu .
If there are people getting saline shots then that is most likely the results of criminal greed like all of the fake medicines being sold on line.
Down here it is not going to happen as the shots are all paid for by the government so the clinic orders 20,000 shots and they get paid for injecting 20,000 shots and we have national medical data base so they can not claim for shots that were tipped down the sink or sold into the black market .
Because you do not understand that every one is different so vaccines will offer different levels of protection to different people you have to invent a reason ( saline shots ) for the natural variations in protection level afforded and of course there is also the strength of the packets that infect people .
And I also see you refuse to believe that hundreds of thousands have died because once again it is easier for the brain to make up a conspiracey than to actually do the maths several different ways , not much divorced from throwing virgins into the volcano to apease the invented volcano God to account for what you do not understand.
Then you have adopted the defensive stance instantly making a conclusion I was attacking mr Hopkings , which I did not in fact I am in awre of his writing skills and what I refute is his conclusions .
If I wanted to attack him then I would go searching for motives appart from the 3/10 of 1¢ he made from me reading his ramblings .
Most of the problems that behest Americans ( declining standard of living , declining standard of health & declining life expecentcy ) are a direct result of the political parties.
From about the Regan Presidency there was a big shift in political campaining intended to split the population into the Reds & the Blues because once you have done that it is easy to convince those who wear red undies that everything the blue undies wearers do is evil mean & wicked , and visa versa.
Thus they no longer had to do the hard work of explaining what legislation was going to do , why it was being introduced & who would be affected by it .
Quite simple every thingthey say is a lie & everything I say s gospel truth ( always good to evoke a diety ) .
After that it was just a case of recruiting 1 more deciple into your church than the other side so you win the power or in the case of US elections make it almost impossible for the people who wear the wrong colour undies to vote because that is easier & cheaper than getting people with the right colour undies to get off their bums & vote.
Now I believe in your right to speak out with whatever misconcieptions you want to preach , but each & every time I will counter act with sufficient information to allows others who want to know to identify cheap tricks and fraudlent claims.
#155
StarTech
StarTech
Mentioning saline shots that did happen here with Kroger as a pharmacy that was unfamiliar with the procedure. But once caught they call the patients back in and the correct medicine injected. It was a honest mistake and it was corrected. It having a record of who got shots that is good. But the anti vaxers just grabbed on to the saline injection part and ignored that it was found and corrected.
But you are right about people rather believe a lie before the truth as a lie can be made to sound so good. It sorta like all youtube videos out there most are just plain hacks with a just a few that know what they are doing.
I rather have you to tell me the truth even if I don't like answer than be told something just to appease me. That is why two of my main suppliers are now on suspension because they straight out lied to me. It may not hurt them financially but it does make me feel better that I am not dealing with the liars for six months.
My customers has found that I tell them it straight to them about equipment even when it is bad news and most appreciate it.
BTW we got a red undies wearer down the road from us that is so paranoid that he thinks everyone is out to get him. He now got several dogs and no trespassing signs up now. Personally he can stay in his little world as long he don't bother me. I just don't need the con artist at my shop. He thinks everyone that is not in his political party are evil. I am surprised he hasn't starting shooting at those passing by yet. And there are others around with billboards in their yards looking like fools. Those I also avoid as much as I can.
It sorta like me wearing a mask in public I have gotten some questions as to why. I just tell them I got TB and they avoid me. What I me referring to is two bellies (socalled beer belly) but they assume the worst. The TB isn't as bad as you tell think but I am overweight as I prefer to be around 220-230 and not 255. I am working on it as I got to get my diet changed around as I age. I done cut out about 95% of the added sugars and the acid reflux is now mostly gone. Now I just got to get my weight down so the blood pressure get back down to normal. I hit well over 250/120 and it put me in the ICU having stroke like paralysis with my whole left side shutting down. Boy I hate taking pills everyday but it is necessary to keep walking.
But you are right about people rather believe a lie before the truth as a lie can be made to sound so good. It sorta like all youtube videos out there most are just plain hacks with a just a few that know what they are doing.
I rather have you to tell me the truth even if I don't like answer than be told something just to appease me. That is why two of my main suppliers are now on suspension because they straight out lied to me. It may not hurt them financially but it does make me feel better that I am not dealing with the liars for six months.
My customers has found that I tell them it straight to them about equipment even when it is bad news and most appreciate it.
BTW we got a red undies wearer down the road from us that is so paranoid that he thinks everyone is out to get him. He now got several dogs and no trespassing signs up now. Personally he can stay in his little world as long he don't bother me. I just don't need the con artist at my shop. He thinks everyone that is not in his political party are evil. I am surprised he hasn't starting shooting at those passing by yet. And there are others around with billboards in their yards looking like fools. Those I also avoid as much as I can.
It sorta like me wearing a mask in public I have gotten some questions as to why. I just tell them I got TB and they avoid me. What I me referring to is two bellies (socalled beer belly) but they assume the worst. The TB isn't as bad as you tell think but I am overweight as I prefer to be around 220-230 and not 255. I am working on it as I got to get my diet changed around as I age. I done cut out about 95% of the added sugars and the acid reflux is now mostly gone. Now I just got to get my weight down so the blood pressure get back down to normal. I hit well over 250/120 and it put me in the ICU having stroke like paralysis with my whole left side shutting down. Boy I hate taking pills everyday but it is necessary to keep walking.
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bertsmobile1
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One of the nice things about living on "a little white pimple on the brown bum of the planet " ( As prime Minister Keeting described Oz ) is we have technicolour undies down here. Because of the influence of US politics the majors are Red & Blue then there is the Green , people of good intention trying to save the planet without bothering to understand how it works first , then the Purples ( self ritechous God botherers ) and in this election some Yellows as well ( OZ's closest copy of Trump ) Plus a smattering of smaller parties & independents .
Having compulsory voting makes a massive difference and having a Senate that serves a double term of the reps keeps massive swings in check because only 1/2 of them get voted for in each election and every state has the same number of Senators ( 6 ) so the norm is 1 senator each for the two major parties and a minor party / independent .
It does to a point Keep the B@#*@#*# honest
Having compulsory voting makes a massive difference and having a Senate that serves a double term of the reps keeps massive swings in check because only 1/2 of them get voted for in each election and every state has the same number of Senators ( 6 ) so the norm is 1 senator each for the two major parties and a minor party / independent .
It does to a point Keep the B@#*@#*# honest
#157
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MowManWV
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MowManWV
Totally unnecessary but I am considered an essential industry so it does not apply to me
Odd how those not affected seem to be OK with such things. Human nature I suppose.
Odd how those not affected seem to be OK with such things. Human nature I suppose.
#158
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
It is hurting.
Yesterday I did the months banking $ 740 same time 4 years ago $ 7983
OTOH that would normally take about 4 hours door to door and was only 1.75 hours yesterday .
Parking spots in front of every where I had to go and no traffic so I could ride the 1927 350 into town which was fun.
Much like Star I am fairly well self sustaining with no immediate debt so I can hang on for several years like this till eventually my pension kicks in .
The only thing I really need to buy regularly is milk & bread as I know how to shop so stuff like four, rice, sugar etc which gets bought in 20kg sacks which costs about 1/4 per kg as it does buying from the "cheapest price" supermarket and same story for tinned goods, the catering tins 3 kg to 5 kg are so cheap it is not funny & I end up with another container to grow strawberries & gooseberries in.
Yesterday I did the months banking $ 740 same time 4 years ago $ 7983
OTOH that would normally take about 4 hours door to door and was only 1.75 hours yesterday .
Parking spots in front of every where I had to go and no traffic so I could ride the 1927 350 into town which was fun.
Much like Star I am fairly well self sustaining with no immediate debt so I can hang on for several years like this till eventually my pension kicks in .
The only thing I really need to buy regularly is milk & bread as I know how to shop so stuff like four, rice, sugar etc which gets bought in 20kg sacks which costs about 1/4 per kg as it does buying from the "cheapest price" supermarket and same story for tinned goods, the catering tins 3 kg to 5 kg are so cheap it is not funny & I end up with another container to grow strawberries & gooseberries in.
#159
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hlw49
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The articles you linked to also claim that Covid 19 was biological warfare which is again rubbish, it was the result of POVERTY as was the previous Covid outbreaks , MERS , Swine Flu & Avian Flu .
Guess no one saw the virologist that fled China and was on Tucker Carlson last night and verified that covid-19 was in fact developed in the Wuhan lab and released by China on the rest of the world.
Or Rand Paul on Hannity tonight revealing that Fauci is responsible for the gain of function research and we even funded it. Fauci needs to be fire and tried for crimes against humanity. He is the fox guarding the hen house and we are paying $417,608.00 a year to do it. He started the research here under Obama who saw how dangerous it was and shut him down. He took it to Wuhan and channeled the funding through another research facility and we payed for it.
Guess no one saw the virologist that fled China and was on Tucker Carlson last night and verified that covid-19 was in fact developed in the Wuhan lab and released by China on the rest of the world.
Or Rand Paul on Hannity tonight revealing that Fauci is responsible for the gain of function research and we even funded it. Fauci needs to be fire and tried for crimes against humanity. He is the fox guarding the hen house and we are paying $417,608.00 a year to do it. He started the research here under Obama who saw how dangerous it was and shut him down. He took it to Wuhan and channeled the funding through another research facility and we payed for it.
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
No one. ever releases any sort of biological weapon until they have an anti-dote , for obvious reasons .
I will believe it was human developed when there is more than one person saying it was and it can be independently verified.
Virologists have been investigating corona viruses and particular the SARS-2 corona viruses for over 40 years since the first one was identified .
Perhaps you might like to understand what a "Grain of Function" actually is .
Right now an Aussie university is doing clinical trials on the results of a "evil terrifing" grain of function research that will allow a virus to take pathogens across the blood brain barrier to "eat" tumours in peoples brains .
Like atomic research
You can make endless clan power from it or a bomb that will kill every living thing on the planet
The DNA of the current SARS-2 virus has been pulled apart by thousands of labs and all bar a few have concluded that it is NATURAL .
The few who found otherwise are all looking for more funding .
As I have been saying from the start "FOLLOW THE MONEY "
Lots of businesses and even people in the USA very willing to pay big money to any lab that can prove SARS Covid-19 was deliberately made in China
Just as many willing to fund any lab that will prove that some other nasty was made in Russia
Oh and one of the massive funders of labs doing "Grain of Function" research is your own Bill & Mellinda Gates Foundation as it looks like the only safe cure for Malaria will be deliverd by this means as Grain of Function modified viruses can be administered in massive amounts in third world countries at a price they can afford to pay.
If people want to hear some thing and are willing to pay to hear it then plenty will front up and say what people want to hear .
That is the basis of a free market demand economy that all in the USA seem to worship.
Just about every vaccine we use today is over kill .
This happens because on a cost benefit analysis , the consequences of adverse reactions is substantially lower than the consequences of it not working at all.
It is a similar thing with just about every medication we take, to get what is needed to the place where it is need we massively overdose .
Grain of function research will allow much smaller doses to be administered thus substantially less side effects .
It is very easy to make some thing that people do not under stand to appear to be sinister
Just look at all of the misguided souls who believe that G5 created Covid-19 by mutating normal flu viruses, totally unaware that G5 is not much different to G4 which was basically the same as G2 right down to G1 Ye they stand around G% towers demanding they they be pulled down.
Or all of the ignorant souls who want mobile phones banned because they know that mobile phones give you brain cancer.
They prove this because the phone gets very hot when held against your ear.
Well hold a brick against your ear as tight as people old mobile phones to their ears and both your ear & the brick will get just as hot.
And back then , the frequency used for phones was the same as used for TV & Radio so every TV & Radio station was pumping waves through every ones brains from 1% to 10,000% of the energy level as the 1/2 watt phone which is supposed to be frying the brains.
And there were even labs who proved this , funny enough most funded by landline phone companies .
I will believe it was human developed when there is more than one person saying it was and it can be independently verified.
Virologists have been investigating corona viruses and particular the SARS-2 corona viruses for over 40 years since the first one was identified .
Perhaps you might like to understand what a "Grain of Function" actually is .
Right now an Aussie university is doing clinical trials on the results of a "evil terrifing" grain of function research that will allow a virus to take pathogens across the blood brain barrier to "eat" tumours in peoples brains .
Like atomic research
You can make endless clan power from it or a bomb that will kill every living thing on the planet
The DNA of the current SARS-2 virus has been pulled apart by thousands of labs and all bar a few have concluded that it is NATURAL .
The few who found otherwise are all looking for more funding .
As I have been saying from the start "FOLLOW THE MONEY "
Lots of businesses and even people in the USA very willing to pay big money to any lab that can prove SARS Covid-19 was deliberately made in China
Just as many willing to fund any lab that will prove that some other nasty was made in Russia
Oh and one of the massive funders of labs doing "Grain of Function" research is your own Bill & Mellinda Gates Foundation as it looks like the only safe cure for Malaria will be deliverd by this means as Grain of Function modified viruses can be administered in massive amounts in third world countries at a price they can afford to pay.
If people want to hear some thing and are willing to pay to hear it then plenty will front up and say what people want to hear .
That is the basis of a free market demand economy that all in the USA seem to worship.
Just about every vaccine we use today is over kill .
This happens because on a cost benefit analysis , the consequences of adverse reactions is substantially lower than the consequences of it not working at all.
It is a similar thing with just about every medication we take, to get what is needed to the place where it is need we massively overdose .
Grain of function research will allow much smaller doses to be administered thus substantially less side effects .
It is very easy to make some thing that people do not under stand to appear to be sinister
Just look at all of the misguided souls who believe that G5 created Covid-19 by mutating normal flu viruses, totally unaware that G5 is not much different to G4 which was basically the same as G2 right down to G1 Ye they stand around G% towers demanding they they be pulled down.
Or all of the ignorant souls who want mobile phones banned because they know that mobile phones give you brain cancer.
They prove this because the phone gets very hot when held against your ear.
Well hold a brick against your ear as tight as people old mobile phones to their ears and both your ear & the brick will get just as hot.
And back then , the frequency used for phones was the same as used for TV & Radio so every TV & Radio station was pumping waves through every ones brains from 1% to 10,000% of the energy level as the 1/2 watt phone which is supposed to be frying the brains.
And there were even labs who proved this , funny enough most funded by landline phone companies .
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StarTech
Question Bert do you have a pair of Shawnwear shorts? Hope you know what I am referring to.
If you do I will need a pair of sunglasses as those some brightest handmade shorts I ever seen. <LOL>.
StarTech
Change subject sorta...One of the nice things about living on "a little white pimple on the brown bum of the planet " ( As prime Minister Keeting described Oz ) is we have technicolour undies down here. Because of the influence of US politics the majors are Red & Blue then there is the Green , people of good intention trying to save the planet without bothering to understand how it works first , then the Purples ( self ritechous God botherers ) and in this election some Yellows as well ( OZ's closest copy of Trump ) Plus a smattering of smaller parties & independents .
Having compulsory voting makes a massive difference and having a Senate that serves a double term of the reps keeps massive swings in check because only 1/2 of them get voted for in each election and every state has the same number of Senators ( 6 ) so the norm is 1 senator each for the two major parties and a minor party / independent .
It does to a point Keep the B@#*@#*# honest
Question Bert do you have a pair of Shawnwear shorts? Hope you know what I am referring to.
If you do I will need a pair of sunglasses as those some brightest handmade shorts I ever seen. <LOL>.
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
never wear shorts except when swimming or in hospital
In a very hot place with very high UV levels , exposing your skin to the sun is not a good idea
In a country with lots os things like snakes & spiders doubly not adviseable
I do have about 20 pairs of coveralls though .
In a very hot place with very high UV levels , exposing your skin to the sun is not a good idea
In a country with lots os things like snakes & spiders doubly not adviseable
I do have about 20 pairs of coveralls though .
#163
StarTech
StarTech
I don't wear shorts either except in the house as saw briars and black berry vines are plentiful here along with lots poison ivy. I have been nearly horsepitize because being completely cover in the poison ivy results.
Oh put on the blinders here is the shorts. Got to be a city guy.
Oh put on the blinders here is the shorts. Got to be a city guy.
#164
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
I got into Poison Sumac once, had large bubbles of what looked like Tar on me, itched like mad, worst 4 days of my life.
I've found that Rubbing alcohol helps with my posion ivy itching, put it on when it begins itching and it dries it out and stops the itching.
I've found that Rubbing alcohol helps with my posion ivy itching, put it on when it begins itching and it dries it out and stops the itching.
#165
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
Oh yes , no shortage of excaped roses that have reverted to briars, blackberry vines in the drainage ditches I can not get into that can grow 100' in a season, honey locust with 4" long spikes , lantana , & boganvillias , got the lot on the roadside verges that I mow.
Spent 4 years taming them then the council came along and glycoed the lots so all of the native grasses I had carefully encouraged died & all of the afore mentioned weeds came back
Spent 4 years taming them then the council came along and glycoed the lots so all of the native grasses I had carefully encouraged died & all of the afore mentioned weeds came back
#166
StarTech
StarTech
Well we just got same brainy people are too. I carefully killed all the tall grasses along a 600 ft long bank and planted centipede grass only for the county dimwits to spray it. I had a few choices for my county district supervisor. Along showing him a video of his guys spraying across a river which is a no no here. Boy did he crawl his work crew about it. I no longer in that county or state so that point is mute now.
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bertsmobile1
Googles search algorithm probably has already put you in the" right wing Republican - Democrat hating , conspiracy believer group "
Thus all you see is the articles that agree with what you are posting and nothing to the contary
You will probably have to go to the 50th page before you find any links to the cancer or malaria work if it is there at all .
Even worse is the top 20 or so will be the same event commented upon by 20 different people with opinions strongly resembling yours.
Once again I am not trying to condemn you for your opinions, in fact I appreciate them because it has sent me down some rabbit holes I would never have come across.
I clear the cashe , cookies & history in my browsers every time I open them ( automatically when I close them to be truthful ) .
That way I hope to get a more balanced search for the simple cost of having to book mark a lot of pages I regularly visit and type in account names & passwords every time I log into a lot of the web sites I regularly visit.
However the search results from Google are always much more tailored than the search results when using Bing and particularly Bing in Brave .
If you have a g.mail account it is even worse because Google reads every single email you recieve and in particular you reply to in order to learn what you believe .
Don't know if other "free" email servers do the same but I would be amazed if they didn't because creating profiles of people for sale to the highest bidder is the prime source of income for most of these companies .
To counter this I pay for my email server , and have 10 different email addresses
I also have some free email accounts that I use purely for joining forums ( like this ) and last time I checked all of their mail boxes were at full capacity and bouncing incoming emails.
Now if you really want to go down a conspiracy worm hole have a good look at what the "free" computer & phone app are actually doing to you & with you .
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bertsmobile1
I bet if you googled "grain of Function" or anything else what you see is not a balanced search but optimised according to your other searches or pages you visited .The articles you linked to also claim that Covid 19 was biological warfare which is again rubbish, it was the result of POVERTY as was the previous Covid outbreaks , MERS , Swine Flu & Avian Flu .
Guess no one saw the virologist that fled China and was on Tucker Carlson last night and verified that covid-19 was in fact developed in the Wuhan lab and released by China on the rest of the world.
Or Rand Paul on Hannity tonight revealing that Fauci is responsible for the gain of function research and we even funded it. Fauci needs to be fire and tried for crimes against humanity. He is the fox guarding the hen house and we are paying $417,608.00 a year to do it. He started the research here under Obama who saw how dangerous it was and shut him down. He took it to Wuhan and channeled the funding through another research facility and we payed for it.
Googles search algorithm probably has already put you in the" right wing Republican - Democrat hating , conspiracy believer group "
Thus all you see is the articles that agree with what you are posting and nothing to the contary
You will probably have to go to the 50th page before you find any links to the cancer or malaria work if it is there at all .
Even worse is the top 20 or so will be the same event commented upon by 20 different people with opinions strongly resembling yours.
Once again I am not trying to condemn you for your opinions, in fact I appreciate them because it has sent me down some rabbit holes I would never have come across.
I clear the cashe , cookies & history in my browsers every time I open them ( automatically when I close them to be truthful ) .
That way I hope to get a more balanced search for the simple cost of having to book mark a lot of pages I regularly visit and type in account names & passwords every time I log into a lot of the web sites I regularly visit.
However the search results from Google are always much more tailored than the search results when using Bing and particularly Bing in Brave .
If you have a g.mail account it is even worse because Google reads every single email you recieve and in particular you reply to in order to learn what you believe .
Don't know if other "free" email servers do the same but I would be amazed if they didn't because creating profiles of people for sale to the highest bidder is the prime source of income for most of these companies .
To counter this I pay for my email server , and have 10 different email addresses
I also have some free email accounts that I use purely for joining forums ( like this ) and last time I checked all of their mail boxes were at full capacity and bouncing incoming emails.
Now if you really want to go down a conspiracy worm hole have a good look at what the "free" computer & phone app are actually doing to you & with you .
#168
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bertsmobile1
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So just imagine how I feel cause I got 5 miles of verge to look after with 7 under road drains and 2 creeks .Well we just got same brainy people are too. I carefully killed all the tall grasses along a 600 ft long bank and planted centipede grass only for the county dimwits to spray it. I had a few choices for my county district supervisor. Along showing him a video of his guys spraying across a river which is a no no here. Boy did he crawl his work crew about it. I no longer in that county or state so that point is mute now.
#169
StarTech
StarTech
If you are not using No Script Google scans a lot what you do too. Even here this has scripts for advertising that do it. here are the current ones on this thread only. I am blocking three of them currently.
As far Gmail scanning my emails it going to be hard as most are encrypted and some are even password protected. The enduser must have my 256 bit decryption code. Of course with enough time they could break the code but are they really that desperate.
And Adblock is blocking 6 ads. If I turn off No Script then Adblock shows a 100+ ads that it blocks or at least that is what showed last year. I allowed the ads the site would become useless to me.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg as some sites have ten + scripts running. CNN for one has over 21 scripts on thier opening page. Other site are just as bad. Eats up your bandwidth in a hurry.
As far Gmail scanning my emails it going to be hard as most are encrypted and some are even password protected. The enduser must have my 256 bit decryption code. Of course with enough time they could break the code but are they really that desperate.
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And Adblock is blocking 6 ads. If I turn off No Script then Adblock shows a 100+ ads that it blocks or at least that is what showed last year. I allowed the ads the site would become useless to me.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg as some sites have ten + scripts running. CNN for one has over 21 scripts on thier opening page. Other site are just as bad. Eats up your bandwidth in a hurry.
#170
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
Yep
The band with problem was what got me a while back
We have the worst internet on the planet in Australia because the market is too small and the distances are too big so when telecommunications were privatised we ended up with with perfect ultra high speed connections to the few in mansionville , almost acceptable in the inner city & rubbish every where else.
I am 75km from the largest city in the country and 15 km from the new international airport but apparently it is technically impossible to connect me except by ADSL from an exchange 6 miles away ( crap speed ) or by satelite $$$$$$ .
I did not bother with add blocking because to help the sites I visit get income I regularly skimmed through some of the adds.
But when the last change was done here and they subscribed to enzoic , my entire 20Gb / month of "full speed" downloads was gobbled up in less than a week .
After that the download speed is choked so that most pages time out before they load.
Thus add blocker was enabled for this site .
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The band with problem was what got me a while back
We have the worst internet on the planet in Australia because the market is too small and the distances are too big so when telecommunications were privatised we ended up with with perfect ultra high speed connections to the few in mansionville , almost acceptable in the inner city & rubbish every where else.
I am 75km from the largest city in the country and 15 km from the new international airport but apparently it is technically impossible to connect me except by ADSL from an exchange 6 miles away ( crap speed ) or by satelite $$$$$$ .
I did not bother with add blocking because to help the sites I visit get income I regularly skimmed through some of the adds.
But when the last change was done here and they subscribed to enzoic , my entire 20Gb / month of "full speed" downloads was gobbled up in less than a week .
After that the download speed is choked so that most pages time out before they load.
Thus add blocker was enabled for this site .
Fwiw Add blocker shows 136 blocked adds on this thread
#171
PTmowerMech
I still have scars.
PTmowerMech
Here's what sumac did to my elbow. You can't really see it, but it's swelled about 1/8th of an inch high (just the red area), and it felt like carboard. It lasted about a month. Had to scrub it with alcohol until it blead. Then put baking soda paste on it.I got into Poison Sumac once, had large bubbles of what looked like Tar on me, itched like mad, worst 4 days of my life.
I've found that Rubbing alcohol helps with my posion ivy itching, put it on when it begins itching and it dries it out and stops the itching.
I still have scars.
#172
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
OW! I just itched looking at that.
#173
PTmowerMech
It was about 2.5" by 2' round. Once it festered up, it didn't really itch or hurt. Just sort of felt like the skin was dying.
FWIH, that sumac, if you burn it, like in a brush pile, and breathe in the smoke, it'll do this to your lungs.
PTmowerMech
OW! I just itched looking at that.
It was about 2.5" by 2' round. Once it festered up, it didn't really itch or hurt. Just sort of felt like the skin was dying.
FWIH, that sumac, if you burn it, like in a brush pile, and breathe in the smoke, it'll do this to your lungs.
#174
winmod21
She got huge oily bubbles on her arms too; the bubbles looked very similar to these (at the 1:04 min mark). So I thought possibly 'Giant Hogweed'?
It came from a bushy area - where all kinds of weird stuff grows - in our front yard !:-0
She still thinks was from Poison Ivy.
I tried uploading some photo's - but the site continually says "The uploaded file is too large" :~\
Even after I've compressed & deleted all file details & properties :~\ And I haven't figured-out or seen a way to resize the .jpg's. ;~\
She had to get prescrip meds. And the oil-filled looking bubbles would burst after several days of extreme pain & itchiness.
We've never seen anything like it, before, or after thankfully.
winmod21
I wonder if it was the same thing my wife got into whilst madly pulling weeds a few years ago?I got into Poison Sumac once, had large bubbles of what looked like Tar on me, itched like mad, worst 4 days of my life.
I've found that Rubbing alcohol helps with my posion ivy itching, put it on when it begins itching and it dries it out and stops the itching.
She got huge oily bubbles on her arms too; the bubbles looked very similar to these (at the 1:04 min mark). So I thought possibly 'Giant Hogweed'?
It came from a bushy area - where all kinds of weird stuff grows - in our front yard !:-0
She still thinks was from Poison Ivy.
I tried uploading some photo's - but the site continually says "The uploaded file is too large" :~\
Even after I've compressed & deleted all file details & properties :~\ And I haven't figured-out or seen a way to resize the .jpg's. ;~\
She had to get prescrip meds. And the oil-filled looking bubbles would burst after several days of extreme pain & itchiness.
We've never seen anything like it, before, or after thankfully.
#175
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
Upload them to postimages and post the links hereI wonder if it was the same thing my wife got into whilst madly pulling weeds a few years ago?
She got huge oily bubbles on her arms too; the bubbles looked very similar to these (at the 1:04 min mark). So I thought possibly 'Giant Hogweed'?
It came from a bushy area - where all kinds of weird stuff grows - in our front yard !:-0
She still thinks was from Poison Ivy.
I tried uploading some photo's - but the site continually says "The uploaded file is too large" :~\
Even after I've compressed & deleted all file details & properties :~\ And I haven't figured-out or seen a way to resize the .jpg's. ;~\
She had to get prescrip meds. And the oil-filled looking bubbles would burst after several days of extreme pain & itchiness.
We've never seen anything like it, before, or after thankfully.
#176
winmod21
But are you saying to click on the 'Insert Images' button ^ (above) instead? I'll try that. Thanks.
Yeah, doing that, it likewise shows: "Oops! We ran into some problems! The uploaded file is too big."
I compressed the .jpg plus deleted all the file property details, but I'm not seeing anyway to resize the file when I right-click in Windows10 :~\
Thanks for tryin to help ;-)
winmod21
I kept trying the 'Attach files' button (below to left) > then in Windows Explorer, I'd go to 'Pictures', then select an image .jpg ...which would then show to be actively uploading... before showing "The uploaded file is too large" every time. :~\Upload them to postimages and post the links here
But are you saying to click on the 'Insert Images' button ^ (above) instead? I'll try that. Thanks.
Yeah, doing that, it likewise shows: "Oops! We ran into some problems! The uploaded file is too big."
I compressed the .jpg plus deleted all the file property details, but I'm not seeing anyway to resize the file when I right-click in Windows10 :~\
Thanks for tryin to help ;-)
#177
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bertsmobile1
So a 2Mp phone imager looks like a 20Gp image to the computer
SO the first thing is to open the image in a photo application then " store as" or "save as" or "export as" a JPG ( JPEG on better computers )
If the app you are using does basic editing ( most do ) then "resize" to 12" on the longest side of the photo @ 72dpi
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bertsmobile1
Phones use a different file format to computersI kept trying the 'Attach files' button (below to left) > then in Windows Explorer, I'd go to 'Pictures', then select an image .jpg ...which would then show to be actively uploading... before showing "The uploaded file is too large" every time. :~\
But are you saying to click on the 'Insert Images' button ^ (above) instead? I'll try that. Thanks.
Yeah, doing that, it likewise shows: "Oops! We ran into some problems! The uploaded file is too big."
I compressed the .jpg plus deleted all the file property details, but I'm not seeing anyway to resize the file when I right-click in Windows10 :~\
Thanks for tryin to help ;-)
So a 2Mp phone imager looks like a 20Gp image to the computer
SO the first thing is to open the image in a photo application then " store as" or "save as" or "export as" a JPG ( JPEG on better computers )
If the app you are using does basic editing ( most do ) then "resize" to 12" on the longest side of the photo @ 72dpi
#178
winmod21
winmod21
Thanks Bert !;-) I'll try that now.Phones use a different file format to computers
So a 2Mp phone imager looks like a 20Gp image to the computer
SO the first thing is to open the image in a photo application then " store as" or "save as" or "export as" a JPG ( JPEG on better computers )
If the app you are using does basic editing ( most do ) then "resize" to 12" on the longest side of the photo @ 72dpi
#179
winmod21
winmod21
Saved as .JPEG ....but still getting "Oops! We ran into some problems. The uploaded file is too large."
And when I right-click the .jpg file, I do have an 'Edit' in the right-click menu, but when I click on that - it opens the .jpg file in the Microsoft Paint App > where there is a 'Resize' under the 'Home' tab, and a 'Zoom In' & Zoom Out' under the 'View' tab.
But under 'Resize'.... my only options are: 'Percentage' (horiz & vertical - currently at: 100%), or 'Pixels' (horiz & vertical - currently at: 3024 x 4032).
And when I right-click the .jpg file, I do have an 'Edit' in the right-click menu, but when I click on that - it opens the .jpg file in the Microsoft Paint App > where there is a 'Resize' under the 'Home' tab, and a 'Zoom In' & Zoom Out' under the 'View' tab.
But under 'Resize'.... my only options are: 'Percentage' (horiz & vertical - currently at: 100%), or 'Pixels' (horiz & vertical - currently at: 3024 x 4032).
#180
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fixit1ddh
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fixit1ddh
662,736 have died from Covid in a year and a half, how many people die each year from diabetes? Look it
You could not pay Me 1 million $$$ to get that jab shot. Everyone I know that has gotten it has health problems now. Down the road people will start dropping like Flys sprayed with fly spray. Real research is Your friend not the mainstream news and by done. Alot of Dr's & Nurses are quiting there job, there not getting it because they know. Do NOT TAKE THE HORSE MED IT WILL KILL YOU. Get a GOOD DR.The mind is a very complex thing and no country has done more research on manipulating the mind than the USA. ( sorry not the evil Russians )
A lot of this was sponsored by the advertising industry and boosted by the political parties,
USA citizens will argue this point but they are the most brainwashed people on the planet.
The success of Coke a Cola is the prefect proof of this.
Your mind is basically lazy & always takes the least energy path to any conclusion
Magic is based on this
A classic trick is the blind taste test Coke vs Pepsi .
Better than 90% will always say the first one they tried was the best , even when they are trying the same drink each time . ( try it at home at your next BBQ with whatever brew you want )
Now reading is the most brain intensive method of taking in information ( that surprised me ) , Watching is the next hardest & listening is the least energy intensive.
So the brain prioritizes stuff it hears over the other two.
Visually, you do not consciously see detail so if shown 2 identical film clips with identical dialogue, one being real actors and the other a simplified cartoon , you will retain the cartoon over the actors .
Also the simplier the image the more brain power available to store the message which is why childrens books that work well use flat colour with very simple backgrounds .
Back in the 50's research by the political parties revealed that messages spread word of mouth were retained & believed to be true better than 90% of the time while the principle mass media of the day, newspapers scored a lowly 30% while the glossy journals ( including Playboy ) got near 50% and from then on, the "social influencer" was born.
Back then it was the neighbour hosting pre election dinner parties.
Now days it is face book
the basic assumption is that person is my friend so they will not lie to me while that scientist is being paid to cover up some thing sinister .( implied in the anti-vax cartoon )
OR your friend cares about you & your health while that doctor is just making money out of you , is in the pockets of the pharmasutical industry and can not be trusted , just like the mower dealers mechanics.
Remember Brutis's speach after Ceaser was murdered FRIENDS , ROMANS , COUNTRYMEN
Three words designed forge a bond between the crowd and the guilty
Now look at the opening words of just about every speech given by every politican and a lot of social influiencers
They don't say " I am your friend and I am just like you so trust me ", but that is what is implied and what your brain hears .
Very early in the cartoon they bring up Russia
In the brainwashed minds of Americans Russia = evil so without using the word evil they have implied that the vaccine campain is evil .
And yes most Americans consider Russia the be an evil despicable enemy and communism to be the work of the devil , no other country's citizens think that way. including the South Koreans .
I really can not be bothered to go through the cartoon line by line but line by line it is mostly garbage , quotes out of context , missrepresentations , inunendo & conspiracies.
I might note while they associate the vaccine with fertilizer, one of their "know cures" ivermectin is a drug designed to remove parrasites from the gut of Ruminants not viruses from the lungs of primates and as primates don't have a rumen it is highly doubtful that it will do much for people with Covid -19 although it is being tested at the moment.
Kryptonie strikes again. So don't put fertalizer in your arm but put horse pill in your intestines ? really ?
#181
StarTech
StarTech
Well I have been fully vaccinated since May and I have only two problem which existed before and no new ones. I got high blood pressure and TB (two bellies). Which everytime someone complains about me wearing a mask I say I gladly remove it if they want a dose of my TB and they don't walk to the next exit but nearly run as I pull down my mask.
Damn blood pressure nearly killed me. I was stroking out multiple times a day and I was setting the alarms off in the ICU for three days.
Damn blood pressure nearly killed me. I was stroking out multiple times a day and I was setting the alarms off in the ICU for three days.
#182
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
Once again highly emotional reporting
So what the story really was
" Obese woman refuses medical treatment that is proven to work in favour of taking any drug that might work, got lucky "
Does not quite have the same ring to it does it?
So take out madam fatso and the rest of the story was remarkably good for something coming out of FOX who have the editorial policy of "broadcast only what our viewers want to hear regardless of the truth or accuracy " Note they sacked their entire election prediction team when they correctly forecast some Bidon state wins .
But getting back to the actual story
Ivermectin has been used to treat mainly cattle for decades and while primarily used for intestinal parrasites it has been noticed to reduce the ability of some viruses to reproduce .
THE MASSIVE DANGER HERE IS THE VIRAL PACKETS THAT DO REPRODUCE WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE DANGEROUS .
The ability to reduce the reproduction of viral packets inside the cows body is where the Covid magic Bullet theory originated from .
And if you talk to a VET they will give you the complete story, my landlord is a vet and teaches as well as doing surgery and has been fully vaccinated with AZ and is trying to get a Moderna / Phizer booster right now .
Firstly ivermectin can not be used for extended periods so taking it to "Prevent Covid Infections" is not a medically sound practice & can cause severe intestional problems including ulcers & ruptures , now if you want a painful way to die, go for a ruptured intestine .
Secondly most cattle require an intestinal innoculation after treatment to restore the gut biome after treatment .
Next doseages are very weight sensitive and has been know to kill cattle if overdosed slightly
While the parrasitic effects are long lasting the anti viral effect stops the instant you stop taking the drug so like a lot of anti-biotics a full course of yet to be determined length has to be taken .
And it gives zero resistance to reinfection, so for instance if Covid is being passed around a family , nothing to stop you getting it 15 times
It also prevents the bodies own immune system building up covid resistance as would normally happen with every other viral infection because the immune system thinks that what it has done has erradicated the virus not the ivermectin thus it promotes the occurance of the asymptomatic , super spreaders .
So yes, ivermectin potentially has a place in the treatment of Covid and potentially other viral infections.
But like every medication it has side effects and if you would rather risk spending the rest of your life emptying colostomy bags the go buy a pack & swallow them.
Finally , cattle are genetically superiour to humans as genetically inferiour cattle die shortly after birth My workshop is on a cattle farm, about 1 calf dies every second year in a breeding heard of 20 - 30 depending upon the season.
As such they have a far stronger immune system than most humans do .
As for your assertion that the ( not specified ) vaccine made all of your friends seriously ill, all I can say is you & your friends must be seriously sick to start with .
I have a very large social circle being a member of 4 international motorcycle & car clubs , 10 local groups, Neighbourhood watch, Mens Shed + my 500 or so customers .
In all that group no one has sufferred any problems with being vaccinated other than a sore arm for few days , a bit of nausia for a couple of days and increased headaches.
I had no problems myself, not even a sore arm , which has me wondering if I really got the AZ lm the first place.
My pathology nurse is very ill with a lot of immune system problems, she got Phizer and had no problems and the GP I go to is a big clinic with staff of well over 200.
All fully vaccinated , including the 20 doctors, the day surgury nurses, physiotherapists & dentists .
OTOH in the 10,000 or so in the various groups 4 have been reported to have died during covid and another 20 or have residual effects rendering them unable to ride old motorcycles probably for ever, now this is not a representative cross section of the population as people who play with vintage & veteran engines, motorcycle & cars all tend to be a touch on the not particularly young side who seemed to suffer more than younger people.
I do know some people who have opted not the get vaccinated and I respect their decision as I respect your decision .
However they have to respect my decision to no longer go to their houses to repair their mowers or not to associate with them socially .
So what the story really was
" Obese woman refuses medical treatment that is proven to work in favour of taking any drug that might work, got lucky "
Does not quite have the same ring to it does it?
So take out madam fatso and the rest of the story was remarkably good for something coming out of FOX who have the editorial policy of "broadcast only what our viewers want to hear regardless of the truth or accuracy " Note they sacked their entire election prediction team when they correctly forecast some Bidon state wins .
But getting back to the actual story
Ivermectin has been used to treat mainly cattle for decades and while primarily used for intestinal parrasites it has been noticed to reduce the ability of some viruses to reproduce .
THE MASSIVE DANGER HERE IS THE VIRAL PACKETS THAT DO REPRODUCE WILL BE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE DANGEROUS .
The ability to reduce the reproduction of viral packets inside the cows body is where the Covid magic Bullet theory originated from .
And if you talk to a VET they will give you the complete story, my landlord is a vet and teaches as well as doing surgery and has been fully vaccinated with AZ and is trying to get a Moderna / Phizer booster right now .
Firstly ivermectin can not be used for extended periods so taking it to "Prevent Covid Infections" is not a medically sound practice & can cause severe intestional problems including ulcers & ruptures , now if you want a painful way to die, go for a ruptured intestine .
Secondly most cattle require an intestinal innoculation after treatment to restore the gut biome after treatment .
Next doseages are very weight sensitive and has been know to kill cattle if overdosed slightly
While the parrasitic effects are long lasting the anti viral effect stops the instant you stop taking the drug so like a lot of anti-biotics a full course of yet to be determined length has to be taken .
And it gives zero resistance to reinfection, so for instance if Covid is being passed around a family , nothing to stop you getting it 15 times
It also prevents the bodies own immune system building up covid resistance as would normally happen with every other viral infection because the immune system thinks that what it has done has erradicated the virus not the ivermectin thus it promotes the occurance of the asymptomatic , super spreaders .
So yes, ivermectin potentially has a place in the treatment of Covid and potentially other viral infections.
But like every medication it has side effects and if you would rather risk spending the rest of your life emptying colostomy bags the go buy a pack & swallow them.
Finally , cattle are genetically superiour to humans as genetically inferiour cattle die shortly after birth My workshop is on a cattle farm, about 1 calf dies every second year in a breeding heard of 20 - 30 depending upon the season.
As such they have a far stronger immune system than most humans do .
As for your assertion that the ( not specified ) vaccine made all of your friends seriously ill, all I can say is you & your friends must be seriously sick to start with .
I have a very large social circle being a member of 4 international motorcycle & car clubs , 10 local groups, Neighbourhood watch, Mens Shed + my 500 or so customers .
In all that group no one has sufferred any problems with being vaccinated other than a sore arm for few days , a bit of nausia for a couple of days and increased headaches.
I had no problems myself, not even a sore arm , which has me wondering if I really got the AZ lm the first place.
My pathology nurse is very ill with a lot of immune system problems, she got Phizer and had no problems and the GP I go to is a big clinic with staff of well over 200.
All fully vaccinated , including the 20 doctors, the day surgury nurses, physiotherapists & dentists .
OTOH in the 10,000 or so in the various groups 4 have been reported to have died during covid and another 20 or have residual effects rendering them unable to ride old motorcycles probably for ever, now this is not a representative cross section of the population as people who play with vintage & veteran engines, motorcycle & cars all tend to be a touch on the not particularly young side who seemed to suffer more than younger people.
I do know some people who have opted not the get vaccinated and I respect their decision as I respect your decision .
However they have to respect my decision to no longer go to their houses to repair their mowers or not to associate with them socially .
#183
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longhike
Same arguments in the pandemic of 1918, and seatbelts. It’s human nature that there is always a small group that will be on the wrong side of history.
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longhike
And I’m sure you fight against wearing masks too. Freedom, liberty, rights … blah blah blah.You could not pay Me 1 million $$$ to get that jab shot.
Same arguments in the pandemic of 1918, and seatbelts. It’s human nature that there is always a small group that will be on the wrong side of history.
#184
Scrubcadet10
we have almost 40 total the most we've lost is two in a year, but it was non immune related, naval hernia's that could not be repaired, guts got in the body cavity=Dead.
Scrubcadet10
Dang... 1 calf every second year is not good. that's usually what we get here in the states with herds in 100's+Finally , cattle are genetically superiour to humans as genetically inferiour cattle die shortly after birth My workshop is on a cattle farm, about 1 calf dies every second year in a breeding heard of 20 - 30 depending upon the season.
As such they have a far stronger immune system than most humans do .
we have almost 40 total the most we've lost is two in a year, but it was non immune related, naval hernia's that could not be repaired, guts got in the body cavity=Dead.
#185
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
The cattle are free range so they calf when & where they calf .
The owners try to run the heard without the bull most of the time to get calfing in sync with the available feed
They they have to contend with dogs & snakes .
No use doing a post mortem on beef cattle unless several start to die in a group.
Cows as you probably know are both stupid & curious so if for instace they stumble across a pair of brown snakes they will follow the snake around then atempt to stick their nose into it or have a lick.
A brown when threatened can produce enough venom to drop an elephant so 200 lbs of calf has no chance .
Even when we saw them doing it and being struck, the best you can do is watch them to see if they got a fatal dose.
The snake antidote is $ 1300 and a beefer pulls $ 1000 to $ 2000 at the sales yard.
Animal & human medacines are mostly the same so snake antidote is $ 1300 regardless of weather you are giving it to a person, a puppy a bull or a thorough breed .
However you have to be pragmatic about it , most dogs & cats will die regardless if they got a venemonous bite so all that happens is the owners end up with a dead pet and a vet bill around $ 2000, yet , this year to date she has treated 12 pets, 11 died & the sole survivour did not get any venom but you don't know that for a couple of days thill the pathology comes back .
And ye the same pathology labs as do people pathology
We some times forget that we are really nothing more than another animal on the planet and when it comes to medacine we are just another animal.
And here in come the problem with using animal medications on people and in particular stock medacines on people.
When a cow gets a dose of ivermectin, it is usually done in their paddock or at best an isolation paddock and the farmer dose little other than watch to see if the cow feeds normally.
It does not get checked for migrain headaches, elevated temperatures , nausea , aches, pins , stomach cramps, dehydration and all the other side effects that a human can be told to monitor themselves for , As such the emperical evidence as to weather the medication is safe is nothing more than did the cow recover and how long did it take .
Even worse is damage to internal organs is never detected on cows because they go off to slaughter in 12 to 24 months and the entrails get frozen then sent off to pet food makers .
No one does a detailed autopsy on livers, kidneys , hearts , brains or intestines so there is almost no knowledge about the long term damage because the cows don't live much past puberty let alone to a ripe old age by which time the damage done by the ivermectin ( if any ) would manifest itself .
Heard animals hide illnesses because if the heard works out one of them sick, they will hunt that animal off out of the heard for fear of sick animal drawing in predators .
There is a lot more information about the side effects of ivermectin on horses than there is on cattle but there is not that much as usually Ivermectin would not be used on horses as most horses are far more valuable so get better health care , particularly if they are race horses so a broad spectrum anti parasitic medication would not normally get used on a horse in favour of a less agressive medication specific to the actual parasite infestation.
To date there has only been 3 reports of people being hospitalised from Ivermectin overdose down here 2 of them died and the third one is still in ICU for what would be around 3 weeks now .
The owners try to run the heard without the bull most of the time to get calfing in sync with the available feed
They they have to contend with dogs & snakes .
No use doing a post mortem on beef cattle unless several start to die in a group.
Cows as you probably know are both stupid & curious so if for instace they stumble across a pair of brown snakes they will follow the snake around then atempt to stick their nose into it or have a lick.
A brown when threatened can produce enough venom to drop an elephant so 200 lbs of calf has no chance .
Even when we saw them doing it and being struck, the best you can do is watch them to see if they got a fatal dose.
The snake antidote is $ 1300 and a beefer pulls $ 1000 to $ 2000 at the sales yard.
Animal & human medacines are mostly the same so snake antidote is $ 1300 regardless of weather you are giving it to a person, a puppy a bull or a thorough breed .
However you have to be pragmatic about it , most dogs & cats will die regardless if they got a venemonous bite so all that happens is the owners end up with a dead pet and a vet bill around $ 2000, yet , this year to date she has treated 12 pets, 11 died & the sole survivour did not get any venom but you don't know that for a couple of days thill the pathology comes back .
And ye the same pathology labs as do people pathology
We some times forget that we are really nothing more than another animal on the planet and when it comes to medacine we are just another animal.
And here in come the problem with using animal medications on people and in particular stock medacines on people.
When a cow gets a dose of ivermectin, it is usually done in their paddock or at best an isolation paddock and the farmer dose little other than watch to see if the cow feeds normally.
It does not get checked for migrain headaches, elevated temperatures , nausea , aches, pins , stomach cramps, dehydration and all the other side effects that a human can be told to monitor themselves for , As such the emperical evidence as to weather the medication is safe is nothing more than did the cow recover and how long did it take .
Even worse is damage to internal organs is never detected on cows because they go off to slaughter in 12 to 24 months and the entrails get frozen then sent off to pet food makers .
No one does a detailed autopsy on livers, kidneys , hearts , brains or intestines so there is almost no knowledge about the long term damage because the cows don't live much past puberty let alone to a ripe old age by which time the damage done by the ivermectin ( if any ) would manifest itself .
Heard animals hide illnesses because if the heard works out one of them sick, they will hunt that animal off out of the heard for fear of sick animal drawing in predators .
There is a lot more information about the side effects of ivermectin on horses than there is on cattle but there is not that much as usually Ivermectin would not be used on horses as most horses are far more valuable so get better health care , particularly if they are race horses so a broad spectrum anti parasitic medication would not normally get used on a horse in favour of a less agressive medication specific to the actual parasite infestation.
To date there has only been 3 reports of people being hospitalised from Ivermectin overdose down here 2 of them died and the third one is still in ICU for what would be around 3 weeks now .
#186
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
No truer words have been spoken.....Cows as you probably know are both stupid & curious so if for instace they stumble across a pair of brown snakes they will follow the snake around then atempt to stick their nose into it or have a lick.
#187
B
bertsmobile1
B
bertsmobile1
There is a slf seeded fig growing in the middle of one of the paddocks
The entire hear will come around when lrt in and stare at it for a good 1/4 hour then one will front up and grab a leaf from the front, chew it a few times then spit it out .
Then it will walk to the side , pull another leaf, chew it a few times then spit it out .
This process gets repeated usually 4 times then it decides it does not like fig leaves and walks away .
Then the next cow will front up & do the exact same thing
Then the next cow & so on until either the whole heard have all had a chew or the tree runs out of leaves
The entire hear will come around when lrt in and stare at it for a good 1/4 hour then one will front up and grab a leaf from the front, chew it a few times then spit it out .
Then it will walk to the side , pull another leaf, chew it a few times then spit it out .
This process gets repeated usually 4 times then it decides it does not like fig leaves and walks away .
Then the next cow will front up & do the exact same thing
Then the next cow & so on until either the whole heard have all had a chew or the tree runs out of leaves
#188
F
fixit1ddh
You people watch to much mainstream media. And not doing enough of your own research. I'm retired and all I have is time to research. To this day I still know no one personally that has died of covid. But lots of Family & Friends have died of cancer.
F
fixit1ddh
Nope nothing to do with freedoms. Has to do totally with the jab is not safe. As I was saying You jab people will start dropping like flies getting hit by fly spray. I seen a report today that more people that got the jab is filling hospital's over the 50% then not. If I do not wear a mask it has to do with My age I'm old. And having COPD & ASTHMA. Did any of you people hear jan the by done Whitehouse spokesperson. Say about covid as a (plandemic)And I’m sure you fight against wearing masks too. Freedom, liberty, rights … blah blah blah.
Same arguments in the pandemic of 1918, and seatbelts. It’s human nature that there is always a small group that will be on the wrong side of history.
You people watch to much mainstream media. And not doing enough of your own research. I'm retired and all I have is time to research. To this day I still know no one personally that has died of covid. But lots of Family & Friends have died of cancer.
#189
L
longhike
…. with zero pre-existing issues, they were not vaccinated.
L
longhike
I do.To this day I still know no one personally that has died of covid.
…. with zero pre-existing issues, they were not vaccinated.
#190
M
MParr
M
MParr
Pass the horse wormer! I don’t care.
Wear a mask. I don’t care.
Don’t wear a mask. I don’t care.
Get the jab. I don’t care.
Keep your hands washed.
Stay at home when sick.
Keep your sick kids at home when sick.
Last: Get off of my lawn!
Wear a mask. I don’t care.
Don’t wear a mask. I don’t care.
Get the jab. I don’t care.
Keep your hands washed.
Stay at home when sick.
Keep your sick kids at home when sick.
Last: Get off of my lawn!
#191
StarTech
StarTech
It is quite easy to make up reports on the internet. Anyone with a computer and a n internet connection can do it.
Personally the three layer mask are not that restrictive. You ought try wearing an organic vapor mask. Now they are restrictive but are necessary when working toxic organic vapors such as automobile paints and drylock water proofers or you will probably end up in the horsepital.
From my point of view most people are just listening to people that just want you sick to make a profit off your ills. I have sit back and just laugh themselves silly when get some idiot to do what said to do. They simply don't care your health. That like telling someone it is perfectly safe to jump off a 10 story building without a parachute or safety net. They just stand and laugh at the poor fool that did it.
Even your own doctor will prescribe medicines that a can have serious side effects. Mine prescribe one med for my blood pressure that made me to see things like a rat building a nest on my chest and other non existent animals. Boy I quit that med and burned the left overs. The next set pills he prescribed would required me to take blood tests every two weeks as they were that dangerous to my kidneys. Needless to say I figured out what I needed and now have the pressure under control with the current med I am taking twice daily.
Anyway I have became anti social because of the ones that wish to risk their and my health.
Personally the three layer mask are not that restrictive. You ought try wearing an organic vapor mask. Now they are restrictive but are necessary when working toxic organic vapors such as automobile paints and drylock water proofers or you will probably end up in the horsepital.
From my point of view most people are just listening to people that just want you sick to make a profit off your ills. I have sit back and just laugh themselves silly when get some idiot to do what said to do. They simply don't care your health. That like telling someone it is perfectly safe to jump off a 10 story building without a parachute or safety net. They just stand and laugh at the poor fool that did it.
Even your own doctor will prescribe medicines that a can have serious side effects. Mine prescribe one med for my blood pressure that made me to see things like a rat building a nest on my chest and other non existent animals. Boy I quit that med and burned the left overs. The next set pills he prescribed would required me to take blood tests every two weeks as they were that dangerous to my kidneys. Needless to say I figured out what I needed and now have the pressure under control with the current med I am taking twice daily.
Anyway I have became anti social because of the ones that wish to risk their and my health.
#192
L
longhike
I think I got it now.
L
longhike
Well, it appears that you’ve determined that it does have to do with conspiracies because that’s where all of these conversations end. “They” are always doing “something” and the only ones that know about it live in the bowels of the internet. And the majority of the independent medical and scientific community must be wrong.Did any of you people hear jan the by done Whitehouse spokesperson. Say about covid as a (plandemic)
I think I got it now.
#193
B
bertsmobile1
The vaccine is as safe as it can be made and most of the resistance is simply "Fear of the new" which is quite normal
At one time it was a well known undispituted fact that having electric lights in your home would drive you mad and give your children brain cancer .
Now the original vaccine formula was designed for Covid -19 Mk I
We are now being attacked by Covid-19 Mk V
And just like the flu vaccine that needs to be tweeked annually the Covid vaccines will need to be tweeked to make it more effective against the current variant.
This is one of the reasons why I am a firm believer in erradication because this will be never ending particularly if we allow it to run rampant in third world countries so provide a breeding platform for more nasty variants to thrive .
As for research, you need to understand that anything other than the actual source is hearsay & opinion so what you have to read is the actual clinical reports, not some ones interpretations of the clinical reports.
So the only thing opinions should be based on is what is found as first hand reporting in medical & scientific journals.
Give me any clinical data and I can extrapolate totally different conclusions depending upon my beliefs or who is paying me to alter your beliefs .
Even then you have to be critical
Any graph without error bars and not showing all the data ( including the points that don't fit ) is to be considered suspect .
reading the same misrepresentation repeated by 200,000 different people does not make it correct .
Information comes in many forms but it is only the PRIMARY information that can be trusted and even then you have to look carefully at it.
Most of what we get in the medial is tertiary at best and usually 4th generation and then 5th generation opinion on the 4th generation reporting.
B
bertsmobile1
Not sure what you are trying to say or where you got those numbers from but they look rather like someone made them up then they have been cross posted 10,000 times because some people want them to be correct.Nope nothing to do with freedoms. Has to do totally with the jab is not safe. As I was saying You jab people will start dropping like flies getting hit by fly spray. I seen a report today that more people that got the jab is filling hospital's over the 50% then not. If I do not wear a mask it has to do with My age I'm old. And having COPD & ASTHMA. Did any of you people hear jan the by done Whitehouse spokesperson. Say about covid as a (plandemic)
You people watch to much mainstream media. And not doing enough of your own research. I'm retired and all I have is time to research. To this day I still know no one personally that has died of covid. But lots of Family & Friends have died of cancer.
The vaccine is as safe as it can be made and most of the resistance is simply "Fear of the new" which is quite normal
At one time it was a well known undispituted fact that having electric lights in your home would drive you mad and give your children brain cancer .
Now the original vaccine formula was designed for Covid -19 Mk I
We are now being attacked by Covid-19 Mk V
And just like the flu vaccine that needs to be tweeked annually the Covid vaccines will need to be tweeked to make it more effective against the current variant.
This is one of the reasons why I am a firm believer in erradication because this will be never ending particularly if we allow it to run rampant in third world countries so provide a breeding platform for more nasty variants to thrive .
As for research, you need to understand that anything other than the actual source is hearsay & opinion so what you have to read is the actual clinical reports, not some ones interpretations of the clinical reports.
So the only thing opinions should be based on is what is found as first hand reporting in medical & scientific journals.
Give me any clinical data and I can extrapolate totally different conclusions depending upon my beliefs or who is paying me to alter your beliefs .
Even then you have to be critical
Any graph without error bars and not showing all the data ( including the points that don't fit ) is to be considered suspect .
reading the same misrepresentation repeated by 200,000 different people does not make it correct .
Information comes in many forms but it is only the PRIMARY information that can be trusted and even then you have to look carefully at it.
Most of what we get in the medial is tertiary at best and usually 4th generation and then 5th generation opinion on the 4th generation reporting.
#194
F
fixit1ddh
F
fixit1ddh
Not sure what you are trying to say or where you got those numbers from but they look rather like someone made them up then they have been cross posted 10,000 times because some people want them to be correct.
The vaccine is as safe as it can be made and most of the resistance is simply "Fear of the new" which is quite normal
At one time it was a well known undispituted fact that having electric lights in your home would drive you mad and give your children brain cancer .
Now the original vaccine formula was designed for Covid -19 Mk I
We are now being attacked by Covid-19 Mk V
And just like the flu vaccine that needs to be tweeked annually the Covid vaccines will need to be tweeked to make it more effective against the current variant.
This is one of the reasons why I am a firm believer in erradication because this will be never ending particularly if we allow it to run rampant in third world countries so provide a breeding platform for more nasty variants to thrive .
As for research, you need to understand that anything other than the actual source is hearsay & opinion so what you have to read is the actual clinical reports, not some ones interpretations of the clinical reports.
So the only thing opinions should be based on is what is found as first hand reporting in medical & scientific journals.
Give me any clinical data and I can extrapolate totally different conclusions depending upon my beliefs or who is paying me to alter your beliefs .
Even then you have to be critical
Any graph without error bars and not showing all the data ( including the points that don't fit ) is to be considered suspect .
reading the same misrepresentation repeated by 200,000 different people does not make it correct .
Information comes in many forms but it is only the PRIMARY information that can be trusted and even then you have to look carefully at it.
Most of what we get in the medial is tertiary at best and usually 4th generation and then 5th generation opinion on the 4th generation reporting.
#195
F
fixit1ddh
F
fixit1ddh
Not sure what you are trying to say or where you got those numbers from but they look rather like someone made them up then they have been cross posted 10,000 times because some people want them to be correct.
The vaccine is as safe as it can be made and most of the resistance is simply "Fear of the new" which is quite normal
At one time it was a well known undispituted fact that having electric lights in your home would drive you mad and give your children brain cancer .
Now the original vaccine formula was designed for Covid -19 Mk I
We are now being attacked by Covid-19 Mk V
And just like the flu vaccine that needs to be tweeked annually the Covid vaccines will need to be tweeked to make it more effective against the current variant.
This is one of the reasons why I am a firm believer in erradication because this will be never ending particularly if we allow it to run rampant in third world countries so provide a breeding platform for more nasty variants to thrive .
As for research, you need to understand that anything other than the actual source is hearsay & opinion so what you have to read is the actual clinical reports, not some ones interpretations of the clinical reports.
So the only thing opinions should be based on is what is found as first hand reporting in medical & scientific journals.
Give me any clinical data and I can extrapolate totally different conclusions depending upon my beliefs or who is paying me to alter your beliefs .
Even then you have to be critical
Any graph without error bars and not showing all the data ( including the points that don't fit ) is to be considered suspect .
reading the same misrepresentation repeated by 200,000 different people does not make it correct .
Information comes in many forms but it is only the PRIMARY information that can be trusted and even then you have to look carefully at it.
Most of what we get in the medial is tertiary at best and usually 4th generation and then 5th generation opinion on the 4th generation reporting.
#197
B
bertsmobile1
Unfortunately there was no link to the source material other than a mention of the doctors names and of course without them in print, near impossible to find so they could be checked.
I think I found them but it is in German with no English translation does Dr Ruby speak German or did she rely on a translation ? It appears the Dr Ghitalla is in fact an Md but again , no indication what her practice is and what institution it is from , if it is indeed from one , and that is very important, remember all of the doctors who told you smoking was good for you ?
It appears that Dr Bolland is a naturopath so I have difficulty in taking what he says about main stream medacine as creditable
As a holder of a MSc in Applied Science the next problem was none of the slides shown had the magnifications or methods indicated which is vital and basic good practice even from first year trainees. And even worse they are not simple blood smeers . One is a standard through lit slide and one is a flurograph . All the others are stock photos , not the patients blood and are stock Transmission electron microscope images of rouleaux .
THis is important as the "spiral" could have been a paper shred, a hair , a contaminant picked up in collection or preparation of the slide or even crud inside the microscope ( it happens ) .
Several times Dr Ruby says they are standard slides
Next, there was no mention why the doctor was doing blood smeeres on her patients in the first place and what other medical conditions / or medications the Doctors patients were on , again very important .
What Dr Ruby said about rouleaux is basically wrong, and in particular the rubbish about reversing the polarity, If they all swapped from - to + then they would still repel .Then she takes a single reason why rouleaux is seen as proof of the vaccine ( which ever one they are talking about ) causing cancer . I have seen it blood samples from foundry workers back in the 70's when I was monitoring them for heavy metal posioning and none of them had cancer or covid vaccine for that matter.
I strongly suggest readers research rouleaux either in Wikkipedia or any haematology web page
To be a valid result that could be extrapolated to the entire general population 1,500 people need to be selected at random to give you 99,9% certaincy that the results obtained are indicative of the entire population. Keep that number in your head it is a very important one to enable you to rule out stacked research being applied to an entire population.
Next there was no mention which vaccine her patients had been treated with .
As for the slide of the vaccine , that is total rubbish, if you don't know what is supposed to be in the solution you can not start to analyse it with a simple drip slide
I did a search on Dr Jane Ruby, but could not find what her qualifications actually were which is always a worry with media doctors.
However I did come across a mention of her in Health Feedback debunking two previous attempts to spread untruths
Try as I could I could not find any other reference to the story on Stew Peters because as previously mentioned you HAVE TO CHECK THE SOURCE MATERIAL because what a commentator says about it is often coloured by their opinions & political agenda
Then I found this quote on Dr Ruby's own blog which is more than worrying about her objectivity
B
bertsmobile1
Thank you for posting that link, very interesting and definately worth a deeper look.
Unfortunately there was no link to the source material other than a mention of the doctors names and of course without them in print, near impossible to find so they could be checked.
I think I found them but it is in German with no English translation does Dr Ruby speak German or did she rely on a translation ? It appears the Dr Ghitalla is in fact an Md but again , no indication what her practice is and what institution it is from , if it is indeed from one , and that is very important, remember all of the doctors who told you smoking was good for you ?
It appears that Dr Bolland is a naturopath so I have difficulty in taking what he says about main stream medacine as creditable
As a holder of a MSc in Applied Science the next problem was none of the slides shown had the magnifications or methods indicated which is vital and basic good practice even from first year trainees. And even worse they are not simple blood smeers . One is a standard through lit slide and one is a flurograph . All the others are stock photos , not the patients blood and are stock Transmission electron microscope images of rouleaux .
THis is important as the "spiral" could have been a paper shred, a hair , a contaminant picked up in collection or preparation of the slide or even crud inside the microscope ( it happens ) .
Several times Dr Ruby says they are standard slides
Next, there was no mention why the doctor was doing blood smeeres on her patients in the first place and what other medical conditions / or medications the Doctors patients were on , again very important .
What Dr Ruby said about rouleaux is basically wrong, and in particular the rubbish about reversing the polarity, If they all swapped from - to + then they would still repel .Then she takes a single reason why rouleaux is seen as proof of the vaccine ( which ever one they are talking about ) causing cancer . I have seen it blood samples from foundry workers back in the 70's when I was monitoring them for heavy metal posioning and none of them had cancer or covid vaccine for that matter.
I strongly suggest readers research rouleaux either in Wikkipedia or any haematology web page
To be a valid result that could be extrapolated to the entire general population 1,500 people need to be selected at random to give you 99,9% certaincy that the results obtained are indicative of the entire population. Keep that number in your head it is a very important one to enable you to rule out stacked research being applied to an entire population.
Next there was no mention which vaccine her patients had been treated with .
As for the slide of the vaccine , that is total rubbish, if you don't know what is supposed to be in the solution you can not start to analyse it with a simple drip slide
I did a search on Dr Jane Ruby, but could not find what her qualifications actually were which is always a worry with media doctors.
However I did come across a mention of her in Health Feedback debunking two previous attempts to spread untruths
Try as I could I could not find any other reference to the story on Stew Peters because as previously mentioned you HAVE TO CHECK THE SOURCE MATERIAL because what a commentator says about it is often coloured by their opinions & political agenda
Then I found this quote on Dr Ruby's own blog which is more than worrying about her objectivity
Yes, the Governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia – the grossly, far Left, blackface, babykiller, communist Democrat, Ralph Northam. I felt an icy chill run down my spine.
#198
L
longhike
L
longhike
Those that have been convinced to not get a vaccine are the victims. They are susceptible to manipulation and preyed upon because they are consumed by fear, prejudice, and conspiracies. And they are dying as a result.
Covid is just the most recent topic of the fear mongering conspiracies. And the answer is no, Dr Ruby is not an MD.
How many of these did or do you believe in?
Bill Gates created
Bill Gates GPS
5G
Pandemic created by deep state
Created by big pharma
Death rates inflated
It doesn’t actually exist
It’s a bio weapon
Plandemic
or treatments?
Vitamin supplements
Sunlight
Bleach
Colloidal Silver
Ivermectin
hydroxychloroquine
At some point you have ask yourself the question… nah, probably not.
Get a shot. Protect your neighbor. And go fix your lawnmower.
Covid is just the most recent topic of the fear mongering conspiracies. And the answer is no, Dr Ruby is not an MD.
How many of these did or do you believe in?
Bill Gates created
Bill Gates GPS
5G
Pandemic created by deep state
Created by big pharma
Death rates inflated
It doesn’t actually exist
It’s a bio weapon
Plandemic
or treatments?
Vitamin supplements
Sunlight
Bleach
Colloidal Silver
Ivermectin
hydroxychloroquine
At some point you have ask yourself the question… nah, probably not.
Get a shot. Protect your neighbor. And go fix your lawnmower.
#199
F
fixit1ddh
F
fixit1ddh
I'm done with this. Going back to lawnmower repairs. Some people are just two mainstream media brainwashed.Thank you for posting that link, very interesting and definately worth a deeper look.
Unfortunately there was no link to the source material other than a mention of the doctors names and of course without them in print, near impossible to find so they could be checked.
I think I found them but it is in German with no English translation does Dr Ruby speak German or did she rely on a translation ? It appears the Dr Ghitalla is in fact an Md but again , no indication what her practice is and what institution it is from , if it is indeed from one , and that is very important, remember all of the doctors who told you smoking was good for you ?
It appears that Dr Bolland is a naturopath so I have difficulty in taking what he says about main stream medacine as creditable
As a holder of a MSc in Applied Science the next problem was none of the slides shown had the magnifications or methods indicated which is vital and basic good practice even from first year trainees. And even worse they are not simple blood smeers . One is a standard through lit slide and one is a flurograph . All the others are stock photos , not the patients blood and are stock Transmission electron microscope images of rouleaux .
THis is important as the "spiral" could have been a paper shred, a hair , a contaminant picked up in collection or preparation of the slide or even crud inside the microscope ( it happens ) .
Several times Dr Ruby says they are standard slides
Next, there was no mention why the doctor was doing blood smeeres on her patients in the first place and what other medical conditions / or medications the Doctors patients were on , again very important .
What Dr Ruby said about rouleaux is basically wrong, and in particular the rubbish about reversing the polarity, If they all swapped from - to + then they would still repel .Then she takes a single reason why rouleaux is seen as proof of the vaccine ( which ever one they are talking about ) causing cancer . I have seen it blood samples from foundry workers back in the 70's when I was monitoring them for heavy metal posioning and none of them had cancer or covid vaccine for that matter.
I strongly suggest readers research rouleaux either in Wikkipedia or any haematology web page
To be a valid result that could be extrapolated to the entire general population 1,500 people need to be selected at random to give you 99,9% certaincy that the results obtained are indicative of the entire population. Keep that number in your head it is a very important one to enable you to rule out stacked research being applied to an entire population.
Next there was no mention which vaccine her patients had been treated with .
As for the slide of the vaccine , that is total rubbish, if you don't know what is supposed to be in the solution you can not start to analyse it with a simple drip slide
I did a search on Dr Jane Ruby, but could not find what her qualifications actually were which is always a worry with media doctors.
However I did come across a mention of her in Health Feedback debunking two previous attempts to spread untruths
Try as I could I could not find any other reference to the story on Stew Peters because as previously mentioned you HAVE TO CHECK THE SOURCE MATERIAL because what a commentator says about it is often coloured by their opinions & political agenda
Then I found this quote on Dr Ruby's own blog which is more than worrying about her objectivity
#201
B
bertsmobile1
Don't do social media. don't buy or read newspapers on line but I subscribe to SCIENTIFIC Journals ( machinery Journals and a few other creditablle publicatins from organizations that do not have a political bias.
Now I do not care if you have or have not been vaccinated .and to be frank I would be overjoyed if all of the anti-vaxers got covid & died in fact we need at least 1/2 the population on the planet to get wiped out if humanity is goning to make it to the next millenium
But I do care about trash opinions being presented as facts when they are not
And that goes for everything from mower repairs to vaccines , you may have noticed that when I make a mistake here & get corrected, I thank the person who pointed it out then go & correct my posts .
Objective minds need to be feed and they need to be fed DATA, not opinion
I have no doubt the Governor played politics and made a mess of things, that is what politicians in a representative democracy do.
Ours made a real balls up and ever since the cluster #%!+ have been using really cheap interstate rivalries , federal / state rivalries and anti non christian religion / immigrant bigitory to divert attention from their failings, that is what politicians of all colours do .
They call it "spin" I call it deception which is why I have only voted for a major party 5 times in 50 years .
B
bertsmobile1
Main stream media brainwashed , really ?I'm done with this. Going back to lawnmower repairs. Some people are just two mainstream media brainwashed.
Don't do social media. don't buy or read newspapers on line but I subscribe to SCIENTIFIC Journals ( machinery Journals and a few other creditablle publicatins from organizations that do not have a political bias.
Now I do not care if you have or have not been vaccinated .and to be frank I would be overjoyed if all of the anti-vaxers got covid & died in fact we need at least 1/2 the population on the planet to get wiped out if humanity is goning to make it to the next millenium
But I do care about trash opinions being presented as facts when they are not
And that goes for everything from mower repairs to vaccines , you may have noticed that when I make a mistake here & get corrected, I thank the person who pointed it out then go & correct my posts .
Objective minds need to be feed and they need to be fed DATA, not opinion
I have no doubt the Governor played politics and made a mess of things, that is what politicians in a representative democracy do.
Ours made a real balls up and ever since the cluster #%!+ have been using really cheap interstate rivalries , federal / state rivalries and anti non christian religion / immigrant bigitory to divert attention from their failings, that is what politicians of all colours do .
They call it "spin" I call it deception which is why I have only voted for a major party 5 times in 50 years .
#202
StarTech
StarTech
I reckon I won't be catching anything the rest of the day as I just drank a pint of white lightning so other things will have to catch me as I going just to pass out and just lay there...
#203
M
MParr
M
MParr
I’m done with it too. This will be my last post on this thread.
I could care less if you take the jab or not. I’ve had my series. I support individual freedom to choose one way or the other.
I don’t really think shaming people does any good.
I don’t wish death on people who have had adverse reactions to the jab.
I don’t wish death on people who choose not to get the jab.
In fact, I don’t wish death on anyone.
I do not support mandates.
I do not support lockdowns.
If you are sick, stay your ass at home.
Don’t drag your sick snotty-nosed kids around with you.
I DO SUPPORT LOCKING THIS THREAD.
I could care less if you take the jab or not. I’ve had my series. I support individual freedom to choose one way or the other.
I don’t really think shaming people does any good.
I don’t wish death on people who have had adverse reactions to the jab.
I don’t wish death on people who choose not to get the jab.
In fact, I don’t wish death on anyone.
I do not support mandates.
I do not support lockdowns.
If you are sick, stay your ass at home.
Don’t drag your sick snotty-nosed kids around with you.
I DO SUPPORT LOCKING THIS THREAD.