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I can’t believe that this thread is still going.
Why hasn’t it been locked?
 

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I can’t believe that this thread is still going.
Why hasn’t it been locked?
Because people are interested in keeping it going and every one is behaving like civilised human beings .
subjects get barred because people can become nasty & aggressive when they think some on threatens their strongly held beliefs.
However every one so far has been quite polite and recognises each others freedoms to believe what ever they like .
Censorship is the first step towards totalitarianism and tyranny .
All ideas should be free to be expressed provided the person expressing them appreciates the rights of others to either agree or dispute the idea,
Over the years I have probably been to hundreds of public lectures that I did not agree with the subject.
Some times if the arguements were sound & the evidence to support them valid then I came out with a changed mind
I think it was Einstein who said "the only way to prove you have a mind is to change it when presented with evidence to the contry .
One of the very destructive things about the modern media is the idea that ones opinions are set in concrete and if you should ever change an opinion then some how that proves you are defective and untrustworthy .
Even judges are allowed the freedom to change their mind when presented with new evidence just the same as Phil Valentine did after he contracted Covid-19 which unfortunately was too late for him
 

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What was this post originally about? Too many hijackers with not enough to do at home/work. Shoot that's me LOL.
 

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Phil Valentine, a conservative radio talk show host who was a vaccine skeptic and disagreed with mask mandates up until he was diagnosed with COVID-19 last month, has died at age 61.

Pop quiz:

For advice on medical issues, listen to your doctor, or a talk show host?

For advice on lawnmowers, listen to you guys, or my doctor?

(OK, this one is a trick question because my doctor does know about lawnmowers)

/ Bert, you have a lot of patience
 

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So did Phil die from 19 or another diabetes like condition? THAT is never stated in all these covid deaths. Most all people have either high blood or diabetes for starters.
 

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So did Phil die from 19 or another diabetes like condition?
662,736 have died from Covid in a year and a half, how many people die each year from diabetes? Look it up.
 
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if that’s true why do so many people accept cartoon videos and Facebook posts as medical advice?
The mind is a very complex thing and no country has done more research on manipulating the mind than the USA. ( sorry not the evil Russians )
A lot of this was sponsored by the advertising industry and boosted by the political parties,
USA citizens will argue this point but they are the most brainwashed people on the planet.
The success of Coke a Cola is the prefect proof of this.

Your mind is basically lazy & always takes the least energy path to any conclusion
Magic is based on this
A classic trick is the blind taste test Coke vs Pepsi .
Better than 90% will always say the first one they tried was the best , even when they are trying the same drink each time . ( try it at home at your next BBQ with whatever brew you want )

Now reading is the most brain intensive method of taking in information ( that surprised me ) , Watching is the next hardest & listening is the least energy intensive.
So the brain prioritizes stuff it hears over the other two.
Visually, you do not consciously see detail so if shown 2 identical film clips with identical dialogue, one being real actors and the other a simplified cartoon , you will retain the cartoon over the actors .
Also the simplier the image the more brain power available to store the message which is why childrens books that work well use flat colour with very simple backgrounds .

Back in the 50's research by the political parties revealed that messages spread word of mouth were retained & believed to be true better than 90% of the time while the principle mass media of the day, newspapers scored a lowly 30% while the glossy journals ( including Playboy ) got near 50% and from then on, the "social influencer" was born.
Back then it was the neighbour hosting pre election dinner parties.
Now days it is face book

the basic assumption is that person is my friend so they will not lie to me while that scientist is being paid to cover up some thing sinister .( implied in the anti-vax cartoon )
OR your friend cares about you & your health while that doctor is just making money out of you , is in the pockets of the pharmasutical industry and can not be trusted , just like the mower dealers mechanics.

Remember Brutis's speach after Ceaser was murdered FRIENDS , ROMANS , COUNTRYMEN
Three words designed forge a bond between the crowd and the guilty
Now look at the opening words of just about every speech given by every politican and a lot of social influiencers
They don't say " I am your friend and I am just like you so trust me ", but that is what is implied and what your brain hears .

Very early in the cartoon they bring up Russia
In the brainwashed minds of Americans Russia = evil so without using the word evil they have implied that the vaccine campain is evil .
And yes most Americans consider Russia the be an evil despicable enemy and communism to be the work of the devil , no other country's citizens think that way. including the South Koreans .

I really can not be bothered to go through the cartoon line by line but line by line it is mostly garbage , quotes out of context , missrepresentations , inunendo & conspiracies.
I might note while they associate the vaccine with fertilizer, one of their "know cures" ivermectin is a drug designed to remove parrasites from the gut of Ruminants not viruses from the lungs of primates and as primates don't have a rumen it is highly doubtful that it will do much for people with Covid -19 although it is being tested at the moment.
Kryptonie strikes again. So don't put fertalizer in your arm but put horse pill in your intestines ? really ?
 
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