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bertsmobile1

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Covid is not "devastating anyone," the lockdowns are.
Really ?
Can you afford 10 days in an ICU bed ?
And I think being dead is a bit devistating to both the deceased and their family
Then there is what is being termed "Long Covid" which has symptoms similar to Ross River Fever that like Ross River Fever come & go
Odd how there is a "moratorium" on evictions and paying rent, but no moratorium on landlords paying property taxes and paying the loans they took out to buy the house their renters are not paying to live in.
Bad government policy
Very odd how McDonald's is "essential" but the small restaurant owned by the family down the street was shut down by government.
Down here all are the same, take away only
Odd how Walmart, pharma companies, Amazon, McDonald's, etc. have made the most money they ever have in all of human history while 400,000+ small business in America are now bankrupt and will never reopen.
Again bad policy and a diversion of discressionary spending also selective data on your part, gun & ammo sales have gone through the roof, supermarket spending has gone through the roof
Odd how "masks are so effective there were no flu cases last year!" but not so effective that there were 660K Covid deaths (in USA) last year.
A small bit of truth extrapolated into BS
Proper infection hygine ( masks , washing , isolation ) have reduced the reported occurance of flu.
If we all isolated every time we thought we had been infected with a cold or flu then there would be no cold or flu because the viruses can only be spread by infected people .
If every single person stayed isolated for 21 days then the cold , flue, and even covid would die out completely.
But we make individual selfish decisions to take a hand full of pills to reduce the effect of the symptoms then go off to work for our own personal gain without a milli second of thought about the consequences of our actions to others who we will infect .
Odd how a local man was literally decapitated in a motorcycle crash but his death certificate lists "Covid death." Odd how I know people whose family members died of strokes and their death certificates say the same thing. Odd how my niece, a hospital nurse, said "if my hospital can possibly---any way they can---list a death as 'Covid' they do.
You got first hand proof of that ? or did it come off Face Book ?
Criminal offence for writing a false death certificate .
Odd how the CDC changed the definition of the word "vaccine."
They do that all the time just usually it is not considered to be news worth so the lazy uninformed stay that way
Odd how the PCR test cannot differentiate between Covid and the flu but can differentiate mutations of Covid.
Wrong again
DNA testing is what differentiates between the various strains of Covid and a PCR can differentiate between a cold & Covid it just takes longer to do and costs more.
When you are trying to rush test results better to record a false + than miss one
Odd how the very pharma companies that were sued due to the addiction of drugs like Oxycontin cannot be sued for side effects with these "vaccines."
Not add at all
Time was critical so the bulk of the work was done on computer simulations.
Thus no phase 4 testing because we did not have time to do 12, 18, 24, 36 & 48 month clinical trials before introduction .
However they are being done as we are having this conversation but the final results will not be available till the testing has finished and been evaluated and that will be around 2030
Very odd how governors will reward taking experimental drugs with contests to win trucks, guns, lifetime hunting licenses, college tuition, and million dollar awards but not reward anyone that can prove they quit smoking, reversed their diabetes, or lost 100 pounds.
Smoking and being fat are discressionary .
No one holds you down and shoves 20 big macks down your gob while they stuff a fag in both nostrels .
Down here the government dose subsidize quit smoking programes and things like nicotine patches .
They also pay for eating dissorder research and metal health treatments for obease people .
So perhaps a failing of your government and in particularly a big failure of the population to act in the public good so they need indusements .
Odd how leaked CDC emails show they based "lockdown recommendations" on orders from the teachers unions.
Decisions are made after consultation with ALL concerned parties and no one party can ORDER the CDC to make any findings .
I would hate to be on the advisory panel as every lobbyist in the country would be beating them senseless .
SO before you can draw any conclusions you need to see ALL of the lobying not just the ones that support your point of view .
Just coincidences!

Now go home, watch TV, play on your phones, do not exercise or play outside, wear that mask whose weave is thousands of times bigger than the size of the virus itself, take that booster, and still get Covid, still transmit Covid, and still die from Covid.
Australia, New Zealand, Korea, Tiawan & Singapore all proved that isolation , hygine , masks & testing works.
Unfortunately we also proved that vaccines are necessary because the quarrentine did not work.
We had successfully erradicated Covid from the entire country till lax quarrentine allowed it to get in again.

Right now we are the perfect experiment .
One filthy disease ridden American pilot ( DHL Freighter ) introduced the USA Delta variant into NSW and just about every case can be tracked back to him
You talked about "conspiracies" to protect big pharma well that works 2 ways
Should Australia sue DHL for all of the testing , deaths, hospital costs that their infected pilot caused ?
Should Australia sue the USA for allowing this disease ridden typhoid mary fly to australia ?
Should he go to gaol for 92 cases of neglegence causing bodily harm & death or be put up against a wall & shot ?

Rules are made on the basis of the best information available at the time .
The easiest to determine is always the first to be found
And droplets are easy to find , easy to test & a know mechanism for the spread of respiratory viruses .
Airesols are a lot more difficult to find and even more difficult to test so it was no surprise to people who can think for themselves ( rather than adopting whose ever opinions suit their particular preformed agendas ) that they were confirmed as a transportion mechanism quite some long time latter.

Twenty years ago we could pay a bunch of university students to stand in a long hallway while a know infected person was on a treadmill at the other end then see who got infected & who did not get infected . This generates absolute results , but ethics prevents doing this now days and ambulance chasers happily sue for damages should any of the paid volunteers get seriously affected by the experiment .
Thus controlled experiments are near impossible to do and even harder to confirm by repeating which is the scientific norm.
So the best we can do is CSI type evaluation of known controlled situations like on board a navy ship , inside a hospital / nursing home etc etc .
 

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Personally I prefer to avoid direct contact the human race as much as I can. Most are disease carriers. The more I avoid them the healthier I stay. If I could I would live on a deserted island.

Now there I said it.
 

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Term Limits in the Congress would fix alot of issues i think....
We have term limits if the voters would be smart enough to use them. U don't think for a minute Pelosi and the rest of the swamp are going to give up their gravy train, Then she couldn't buy he expensive ice cream and fly back and forth to California on our dime. As Ernest T Worrell ( Jim Varney) said WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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The recorded cause of death comes off the death certificate after that has been signed then it does not matter what is said done or written , it won't change the statistics .
The funeral parlour is obviously gaming the system for some sort of government benefit and if you REALLY BELIEVE you are paying too much tax then report them for benefit fraud .


This shows you have been reading the wrong information and are not thinking just reacting hysterically
The death rate is not a problem apart from finding body space
It is the hospitalization rate that has governments in a panic because it can & has overwhelmed just about every medical system on the planet.
But sensationalist media just talk about DEATH because DEATH scares people , and in particular scares people with a lot to loose.


TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE B S .
The PCR test is over 90% accurate
where the false positives come in is people who have been exposed to viral packets but not been infected.
We are all just that little bit different .
1 packet could have me in an ICU bed on a respirator and 1000 packets could pass strait through you, that is the way of viral infections .
Secondly with any type of quality control and virus testing is a type of quality control, you need to use the most sensitive test you can to make sure you are not approving defective.
SO better to have a few uninfected people isolating than a single sick person out there spreading the infection.
So not proof of a conspiracy, sound medical practice which you are either unaware of or incapable of objective thinking about .


Wrong again
If you get the alpha mutation and recover then you have a level of resisance to the ALPHA variant, you can still catch the Beta, Gmma, Kappa, Delta etc etc etc mutations.
Very early on the US navy had several cases of sailors getting a second infection, just the same as you can get the flu several times in a single season.


WRONG
We know exactly what it is , and there is no conflicting INFORMATION , just INFORMATION that gets updated & expanded upon
What is CONFLICTING is the OPINIONS which get manipulated by the presenter for their own gain or according to their idology .
I subscribe to several scientific journals and that information has been rock solid.
Reporters who know everything about creating mass panic & anxiety pull selected bits out of the information and report just that .
Then POLITICAL advisers put spin on it so it suddenly becomes a case of left vs right rather than fact vs fiction.
I cracked up reading this reply! I have laughed so much I'm not sure where to begin on the reply.

It reminds me of a guy I spoke with yesterday. Older guy, goes to the gym daily.

I saw him there yesterday, asked him what he did for exercise since I haven't seen him do any cardio in a while.

"I just do the machines." Me: "oh? No more cardio?"

Him: "Well I'm afraid if I breathe too hard I'll catch the virus."

Me: "Didn't you have both shots?"

Him: "Yes."

MENTAL ILLNESS BUT ON A MASSIVE SCALE.

I'll try to unpack your reply later.
 

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Personally I prefer to avoid direct contact the human race as much as I can. Most are disease carriers. The more I avoid them the healthier I stay. If I could I would live on a deserted island.

Now there I said it.
 

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Personally I prefer to avoid direct contact the human race as much as I can. Most are disease carriers. The more I avoid them the healthier I stay. If I could I would live on a deserted island.

Now there I said it.

I'm sort of the same way. But not so much for disease purposes. Just a personal space thing. Shaking hands, I'll do it, if someone sticks out their hands. But If I do it first, it's a fist bump. Asians and their head bow thing is a good thing, I think. It shows respect.
But that's just me.
I'm weird.
 

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Should have at least gotten the U.S. citizens out before you pull out U.S. Troops.
I read the Afghan military *had* 186,000 active "troops".... while "experts" figure close to 80,000 taliban troops in afghanistan, total.
With the help of an online calculator, that comes to 93 Afghan troops for every 4 taliban fighters...
Be careful with those online calculators!
 

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Should have at least gotten the U.S. citizens out before you pull out U.S. Troops.
I read the Afghan military *had* 186,000 active "troops".... while "experts" figure close to 80,000 taliban troops in afghanistan, total.
With the help of an online calculator, that comes to 93 Afghan troops for every 4 taliban fighters...

The end result. We need to get Americans out of Afghanistan. Then let them work out that crap on their own. Every American that has died, and every dollar spent since Bin Laden was killed, was wasted.

So we can pull a Trump, claim victory and just leave.
 

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How is it that gas prices went up from 2008 to 2016 with a D, down from 2016 to 2020 with an R, and now with a D, they're going up.....?

The same way it got up over $4 gallon with W. I'm not sure what happened when Trump was office. It's a fact, we seen some decent gas prices during his term. If he has something do about it, I doubt Biden will do it.
But honestly, I doubt the CEO's and big shots in the oil business, who get million $$$ bonuses are going to take orders from a president who makes what, $400K a year?
Like most politics, there's a lot of important information that we'll never know. So we can only guess at why anything is what it is, when it comes to those clowns.
 
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