Lowballers

[Carscw]

what i have learned in 10 years of cutting and growing every year is that there is no protection in this industry.....requiring everybody to have a business license hardly levels the playing field.....a city requiring everybody have liability insurance would help make things more equal but it would have to be enforced......you have to be creative and out think these price cutters.....building relationships with customers goes a long way......i hand out refrigerator magnets to all my customers with company name.....i have dropped price by 5 dollars per cut on some after they have been with me for 5 years......i give discounted price on things such as trimming hedges for long time customers.......anything that will build a little loyalty and connection......i am not against the kid with a pushmower trying to make spending money in the summer.....i despise the cutter that sees me doing a yard and comes back later and tries to under price me.......but these things just have to be dealt with.......you keep most but you lose a few

I agree a kid with a push mower just trying to make some cash is not the same.

The guy the sees you cutting a yard and then tries to take it from you is just a scum bag.

 

[Ric]

what i have learned in 10 years of cutting and growing every year is that there is no protection in this industry.....requiring everybody to have a business license hardly levels the playing field.....a city requiring everybody have liability insurance would help make things more equal but it would have to be enforced......you have to be creative and out think these price cutters.....building relationships with customers goes a long way......i hand out refrigerator magnets to all my customers with company name.....i have dropped price by 5 dollars per cut on some after they have been with me for 5 years......i give discounted price on things such as trimming hedges for long time customers.......anything that will build a little loyalty and connection......i am not against the kid with a pushmower trying to make spending money in the summer.....i despise the cutter that sees me doing a yard and comes back later and tries to under price me.......but these things just have to be dealt with.......you keep most but you lose a few

I agree with others when they say I'm not against a kid with a push mower just trying to make some summertime cash but to do what this guy is doing, coming around and putting his adds on doors where lawns have just been done and offering free cuts for a month to anyone is about as under handed and low as someone can get. I'm not against the new guy as long as they do things the right way and there is a way of doing things to earn the respect of your competition but soliciting your competitions clients isn't one.

 

[TaskForceLawnCare]

I've kept my pricing consistent from the beginning. I've never low balled, I'm not upset and I understand free enterprise. However there's huge difference between free enterprise and industry standards. Most everyone here has built their business from the ground up. When this douche bag offers prices like $10 a yard he's taking money out of your pocket. First he can't pay his fuel bill prices go up for the honest paying customer ( you). Then its mower and truck repo time banks raise interest rates to cover the gap. If you're mowing for $10 you've no pride,no self respect or respect for others. Its basic economics we will pay for people who don't or can't because they are clueless dirt bags. I can't survive on $60 an hour gross I spend more then that in payroll alone. Unless I could get the tax payers to hand me everything because of this who entitled generation thing, that don't realize you get what you work for. So if you think it's free enterprise to low ball by 90% or in this turds case 100% for the first month, then obviously you need to educate yourself. Otherwise I wish them the best of luck but feel that they won't last long enough to become an issue for actual professionals.

 

[Carscw]

I've kept my pricing consistent from the beginning. I've never low balled, I'm not upset and I understand free enterprise. However there's huge difference between free enterprise and industry standards. Most everyone here has built their business from the ground up. When this douche bag offers prices like $10 a yard he's taking money out of your pocket. First he can't pay his fuel bill prices go up for the honest paying customer ( you). Then its mower and truck repo time banks raise interest rates to cover the gap. If you're mowing for $10 you've no pride,no self respect or respect for others. Its basic economics we will pay for people who don't or can't because they are clueless dirt bags. I can't survive on $60 an hour gross I spend more then that in payroll alone. Unless I could get the tax payers to hand me everything because of this who entitled generation thing, that don't realize you get what you work for. So if you think it's free enterprise to low ball by 90% or in this turds case 100% for the first month, then obviously you need to educate yourself. Otherwise I wish them the best of luck but feel that they won't last long enough to become an issue for actual professionals.

I agree with everything you said.

I ask guys all the time why do you think that's all your time is worth?

They buy these landscape packages some dealers offer. Set their price dumb azz low then do a crappy job thinking they are going to get rich in 6 months.

I will not lower mr price just to get one yard. I know what my time and skills are worth and what I need to clear at the end of the day.

I just done get how anyone can charge $20 spend a hour at the yard.
Gas to get there, gas for the equipment,

Walmart pays better then that.

 

[gfp55]

I've kept my pricing consistent from the beginning. I've never low balled, I'm not upset and I understand free enterprise. However there's huge difference between free enterprise and industry standards. Most everyone here has built their business from the ground up. When this douche bag offers prices like $10 a yard he's taking money out of your pocket. First he can't pay his fuel bill prices go up for the honest paying customer ( you). Then its mower and truck repo time banks raise interest rates to cover the gap. If you're mowing for $10 you've no pride,no self respect or respect for others. Its basic economics we will pay for people who don't or can't because they are clueless dirt bags. I can't survive on $60 an hour gross I spend more then that in payroll alone. Unless I could get the tax payers to hand me everything because of this who entitled generation thing, that don't realize you get what you work for. So if you think it's free enterprise to low ball by 90% or in this turds case 100% for the first month, then obviously you need to educate yourself. Otherwise I wish them the best of luck but feel that they won't last long enough to become an issue for actual professionals.

"douche bag" "clueless dirt bags" "this turds" These words sound like your upset to me. So when you started your company, all your customers were cold call new, you did not take over the jobs from another companies. You knew how to be a pro right from the start or did you work for a landscaper before you started your business? When you say "I've kept my pricing consistent from the beginning" When was the beginning, how long ago, what year? When you saw things like "If you're mowing for $10 you've no pride, no self respect or respect for others" you must know them personally to give that description of them, or are you assuming that. If you are assuming that then that is just your opinion and everyone has one. That does not make it a fact. Talking smack about the competition is not very professional. You can call it lowballing all you want, but that does not change the facts, someone will do the job cheaper then you. If the customer is happy with the work for the price then what is your beef. Like someone said here, you have to build a loyal customer base that will not go to the cheaper company. If you shop at Walmart you get cheaper prices, thats what the customer is doing when they go with the cheaper lawn care outfit, getting cheaper prices. Rethink your business plan and keep your customers.

 

[Carscw]

"douche bag" "clueless dirt bags" "this turds" These words sound like your upset to me. So when you started your company, all your customers were cold call new, you did not take over the jobs from another companies. You knew how to be a pro right from the start or did you work for a landscaper before you started your business? When you say "I've kept my pricing consistent from the beginning" When was the beginning, how long ago, what year? When you saw things like "If you're mowing for $10 you've no pride, no self respect or respect for others" you must know them personally to give that description of them, or are you assuming that. If you are assuming that then that is just your opinion and everyone has one. That does not make it a fact. Talking smack about the competition is not very professional. You can call it lowballing all you want, but that does not change the facts, someone will do the job cheaper then you. If the customer is happy with the work for the price then what is your beef. Like someone said here, you have to build a loyal customer base that will not go to the cheaper company. If you shop at Walmart you get cheaper prices, thats what the customer is doing when they go with the cheaper lawn care outfit, getting cheaper prices. Rethink your business plan and keep your customers.

Why would there be a need to try and take yards from someone else?

I have only took one yard from someone else and that was last year. He did such a crappy job I went and told the homeowner i will fix the mess for free ( was a older man in his 80s) he told me he pays the guy $15 a week to cut his grass and any paper that is in the yard. Did not edge or blow. I gave the man a $20 discount and took the yard for $35

Still do it every week.

Why do you do yards so cheap?
Do you not think your work is good enough to charge what you should ?

I might volunteer to be the lawn care cop in my county for free.

I pay my taxes. Have a license and insurance. If you cut grass for profit you also need these things.

It pisses me off to see these fuktards low balling yards and getting food stamps and a Obama phone because they say they don't work. What they need is a good ole country azz kicking.

 

[TaskForceLawnCare]

I'm not upset and yes I will absolutely throw my opinions at an extreme low baller like the one we're referencing. Why would anyone defend someone trying to steal your customers with free or $10 mows. For those prices they may as well be a charity.

I haven't lost a customer in at least 5 years. I run a successful business with a comprehensive plan. do you have a business plan, or do you even own one? Wal Mart is a pathetic comparison to a professional service by the way.

As far as self respect goes you now yards for free or $10 a yard then go home ask yourself do respect myself for losing money all day.

The low baller isn't competing with me I provide high end lawn services. Something they can't do. Fact they are idiots trying to make a quick buck and are mostly an annoyense. Not to mention a tax burden.

 

[gfp55]

Assumptions, baseless assumptions. Where do you guys come up with such petty small minded ideas. I have always payed my taxes, I have never got any government help, no free phones. I started cutting grass and snow plowing in the 60s and have watched guys like you come along and talk big, dream big and go down crying that its someone else's fault. I had a lawn care business for 40 years and was a shop rat until I sold it and retired altogether so don't say I don't pay my far share of taxes. Oh and by the way, people were getting free phones from the government years before Obama was elected. Just another fact you have wrong.

 

[Carscw]

Assumptions, baseless assumptions. Where do you guys come up with such petty small minded ideas. I have always payed my taxes, I have never got any government help, no free phones. I started cutting grass and snow plowing in the 60s and have watched guys like you come along and talk big, dream big and go down crying that its someone else's fault. I had a lawn care business for 40 years and was a shop rat until I sold it and retired altogether so don't say I don't pay my far share of taxes. Oh and by the way, people were getting free phones from the government years before Obama was elected. Just another fact you have wrong.

Dumb azz the first free gov cell phone was handed out in 2008 after he took office.
Maybe you need to get the facts.

 

[gfp55]

Dumb azz the first free gov cell phone was handed out in 2008 after he took office.
Maybe you need to get the facts.

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?