Lawn Mower Problems related?

[EngineMan]

You should not be able to see the spring under the pulley, and you say that its very tight when you try and put it back on, it shouldn't be tight, so you have two options replace the cover, or take the starter assembly apart.
If you have never taken one apart, take you're time and remember what you do (very important).
1 pull the rope out of handle to be able to undo or cut the knot.
2 bend back one of the two tangs (parts that are over the white pulley) (only one) GRASPING THE PULLER WHICH IS WOUND TIGHT and lift out and remove from the cover, disconnecting spring, remembering where the ends of the spring go's.
3 look for any damage or anything that looks out of place and then clean the spring.

INSTALL SPRING
place a dab of grease on pulley (the side that the spring go's) set pulley into housing and bend bumper tang down. Place a 3/4" square piece of stock into center of pulley hub, GRASPING STOCK WITH A WRENCH WIND PULLEY UNTIL SPRING IS WOUND TIGHT. Then back off pulley one turn until hole in pulley for rope knot and eyelet in blower housing are in alignment.
Spring should be securely locked in smaller portion of tapered hole.
Install rope.

I have done this many times over the years, but if you have never done so I would tell you to take it to someone who has, he will know what to look for and also what to do.

 

[gbsk]

Engine Man,

Thanks for the reply. I looked at a couple of youtube videos and also wha you said and it looks doable. I have a couple of questions. You said the spring should not be showing. When I push the cord housing in the opposite area of your arrow towards the hole where the rope comes out, the spring will not show. Are you saying that the spring is not wound tight enough? When I pull the cord with the cover off, the rope pulls very easy. When I put the cover back on, thee is not much clearance between the gas tank and other parts and the cover goes on tightly. When I put the cover back on, the cord will not pull at all. It did work before. Do you still recommend that I rewind the spring?

Thanks
GB

 

[EngineMan]

Service the starter ratchet there are many video's on youtube to do this, I would still say that there maybe something wrong with the recoil because its only when you put that part back on you have the problem, only one way to find out and that would be to that apart and see.

 

[gbsk]

I finally was abke to tackle this for the past couple of days. It is hard to rewind the spring. You almost need 3 or 4 hands. It would seem to me that you should see part of the spring under the pulley since the spring would expand whe it is not pulled tight. Maybe I am wrong. The cover and not the spring was tight putting the cover back on. I go the spring wound again with the rope back on. When I pull the rope now, the pulley makes a lot of clicking sounds and when it is all out, it is just slack and will not rewind so I am confused now. What do I do now?

Thanks,
GB

You should not be able to see the spring under the pulley, and you say that its very tight when you try and put it back on, it shouldn't be tight, so you have two options replace the cover, or take the starter assembly apart.
If you have never taken one apart, take you're time and remember what you do (very important).
1 pull the rope out of handle to be able to undo or cut the knot.
2 bend back one of the two tangs (parts that are over the white pulley) (only one) GRASPING THE PULLER WHICH IS WOUND TIGHT and lift out and remove from the cover, disconnecting spring, remembering where the ends of the spring go's.
3 look for any damage or anything that looks out of place and then clean the spring.

INSTALL SPRING
place a dab of grease on pulley (the side that the spring go's) set pulley into housing and bend bumper tang down. Place a 3/4" square piece of stock into center of pulley hub,


GRASPING STOCK WITH A WRENCH WIND PULLEY UNTIL SPRING IS WOUND TIGHT. Then back off pulley one turn until hole in pulley for rope knot and eyelet in blower housing are in alignment.
Spring should be securely locked in smaller portion of tapered hole.
Install rope.

I have done this many times over the years, but if you have never done so I would tell you to take it to someone who has, he will know what to look for and also what to do.

 

[EngineMan]

Do it again because you hav'nt done it right, have a look on youtube or like I said take it to someone who has done it before. the notes are from the manual.

 

[gbsk]

Engine Man,

I went to a small engine repair shop and aske d the fellow there about putting the spring back on. He said it was very hard even for him. He suggested starting to put the spring on the end of the pulley and not on the cover first. I tried it and it did not work. The I found this video and worked like a charm.
Video: How to Install a Lawn Mower Starter Spring | eHow.com
The problem is that I found no other alternative than leaving the rope on the pulley. When I wind the spring, the rope unwinds the other way and gets jammed up. If I try to put the rope in when I have the spring on, the rope will hardly get through the hole and then almost impossible to make the turn to get on the pulley. I know it would be easy to get through the hole in the cover once I got it on the pulley. Right now I have the rope on the pulley but most of the rope is wound the wrong way since I put the spring on. I do have one of the tabs pushed down to hold the pulley on and a vice grip on the other side to hold it on. Right now AI do not have a job so I cannot afford to take it to the repair shop. Thanks for helping. Someone gave me another mower but that needs repair also. I will work on that now and ask a question about it.

Thanks,
GB

GB

You should not be able to see the spring under the pulley, and you say that its very tight when you try and put it back on, it shouldn't be tight, so you have two options replace the cover, or take the starter assembly apart.
If you have never taken one apart, take you're time and remember what you do (very important).
1 pull the rope out of handle to be able to undo or cut the knot.
2 bend back one of the two tangs (parts that are over the white pulley) (only one) GRASPING THE PULLER WHICH IS WOUND TIGHT and lift out and remove from the cover, disconnecting spring, remembering where the ends of the spring go's.
3 look for any damage or anything that looks out of place and then clean the spring.

INSTALL SPRING
place a dab of grease on pulley (the side that the spring go's) set pulley into housing and bend bumper tang down. Place a 3/4" square piece of stock into center of pulley hub, GRASPING STOCK WITH A WRENCH WIND PULLEY UNTIL SPRING IS WOUND TIGHT. Then back off pulley one turn until hole in pulley for rope knot and eyelet in blower housing are in alignment.
Spring should be securely locked in smaller portion of tapered hole.
Install rope.

I have done this many times over the years, but if you have never done so I would tell you to take it to someone who has, he will know what to look for and also what to do.

 

[EngineMan]

http://youtu.be/adnDwQGzcZo

 

[gbsk]

Engine Man,

I finally got the pulley and spring back on. I asked at a lawn mower repair place and they said that it is very hard for them to put the pulley and spring back on. I asked about putting the rope back on because I had a very rough time just putting the rope through the hole in the cover, much less getting it through the pulley. The repairman showed me some tools that looked like big sturdy dental picks to baby the rope around angles. J also snapped off the end of the spring accidently so I had to file anothe r notch on the spring.

Here is what I ended up doing. I wound the rope on the pulley and taped it with masking tape so it would not unwind. I the fed the inside of the spring through the outer side of the cover through the hole that hooks the other end of the spring. I then attached the inner end of the spring to the pulley and wound it up a few turns. I then pushed the tabs down and stuck the piece of wood in the cogs of the pulley and wound the pulley until it was wound tight. I unwound the rope and spring one rotation.and fed the rope through the rope hole. I put the cover on and pulled hte rope. It would only pull about a foot of rope out. It was thinking that I need to let a lot more rope out before I put it through the rope hole. Is that right? I hope this makes sense.

Thanks
GB

how to fix and rewind briggs and stratton pull starters Davidsfarmison[bliptv]now - YouTube

 

[EngineMan]

Engine Man,

I finally got the pulley and spring back on. I asked at a lawn mower repair place and they said that it is very hard for them to put the pulley and spring back on. I asked about putting the rope back on because I had a very rough time just putting the rope through the hole in the cover, much less getting it through the pulley. The repairman showed me some tools that looked like big sturdy dental picks to baby the rope around angles. J also snapped off the end of the spring accidently so I had to file anothe r notch on the spring.

Here is what I ended up doing. I wound the rope on the pulley and taped it with masking tape so it would not unwind. I the fed the inside of the spring through the outer side of the cover through the hole that hooks the other end of the spring. I then attached the inner end of the spring to the pulley and wound it up a few turns. I then pushed the tabs down and stuck the piece of wood in the cogs of the pulley and wound the pulley until it was wound tight. I unwound the rope and spring one rotation.and fed the rope through the rope hole. I put the cover on and pulled hte rope. It would only pull about a foot of rope out. It was thinking that I need to let a lot more rope out before I put it through the rope hole. Is that right? I hope this makes sense.

Thanks
GB

Am not sure if I understand you.. you say that the repair shop told you it would be hard for them to do, no its not, anyone who has done it before can do the job in five minute's ten at the top.
from what I can read of this it seems that you have not manage to fix it, if so go back to the last video post and play it again and again until you do it right, if all parts are there and none are damage, its has to be you who is not doing it right. if you can't fix it look out for other one.

 

[chance123]

I didn't read all the posts but with most recoil starters, if you are just replacing the rope, it is a simple matter to simply wind the starter in the direction of engine rotation until the spring is tight and won't turn anymore. Slowly release the pulley and let the spring unwind just to the point where the hole for the rope in the pulley lines up with the rope hole in the shroud or hsing, and take your new rope with a knot at the end and insert into the pulley hole and guide it through the housing hole and pull it all the way out. when the rope is all the way out, hold the end of the rope and release the pulley, and the taught spring will feed the rope back on the pulley. Be careful not to let the rope go as it will slip through the shroud/hsing. It's best to immeadiately put your starter handle on.