Hertz car rental is dropping 20,000 EV cars for gas powered.

[PTmowerMech]

Pretty much what he said.

And when anything "green" is subsided we all get the privilege of paying for it whether we like it or not.


"Does the government subsidize EV cars?

Average direct subsidies from federal and state governments amount to almost $9,000 per vehicle over 10 years while direct subsidies from utilities push the amount over $10,000. But manufacturers receive subsidies too, and regulations force them to produce more and more EVs, even if the vehicles aren't profitable.Nov 9, 2023"
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At the same time, oil/gas companies are getting government subsidies in the billions, every year. GM and others have gotten huge bailouts.

This is why I support constitutional and fiscal conservatives (Chip Roy, Thomas Massie, etc etc) and not democrats or the RINO's.

"Republicrats" give free market capitalism a bad name.

 

[PTmowerMech]

At what rate? Tn pays 27.4 cents per gallon
Energy
T.C.A. § 67-6-206(b)(1) also provides that a “tax at the rate of one and one-half percent (1.5%) shall be imposed with respect to gas, electricity, fuel oil, coal, and other energy fuels when sold or used by manufacturers.” T.C.A. § 67-6-704 exempts all energy sales from the local sales tax. This state-only sales tax is in lieu of the combined state and local sales tax levied on other taxable sales (seven percent (7%) state rate plus your local rate).
So on top of the sales tax that we all pay and we with gas powered vehicles we are paying 27.4 cents a gallon as well. That goes for the up keep of the roads they still are not paying their fair share.

And it goes for anything and everything else they want to pay for. But that's kind of the point. States and the federal government tax everything under the sun. And now with solar panels connected to the grid, they're sort of taxing the sun too. None the less, they're taxing way too much for what little we're getting.
I say the state & federal government should simply stop wasting our money on things that don't pertain to most of us. Then see what the tax rates for everything should be. Taxing EV's more is only going to give them more money to blow. It might make those who are opposed to EV's feel better that EV owners have to pay more. But it's not going to reduce our gas tax one penny.

 

[bertsmobile1]

As an engineerI love the concept of EV's
But as a human I hate the misuse of valuable resources and a LI battery big enough t power a vehicle of store off grid energy is just that, misuse of finite world resources.
When a reliable battery that is safe & reasonably priced is found then EV's will make sense but right now they do not.
MY other problem is selling some thing to the ignorant with total BS like Musk has done with Tesla forcing all the others to follow him down the road of electric euphoria , which unfortunately leads directly to hell .
So if you live in the city, drive less than 20 miles a day, have open air parking or a detatched car port then an EV makes sense
However the 3,000 people who had their cars destroyed in the Luton airport car park might just think a bit different to that .

 

[PTmowerMech]

As an engineerI love the concept of EV's
But as a human I hate the misuse of valuable resources and a LI battery big enough t power a vehicle of store off grid energy is just that, misuse of finite world resources.
When a reliable battery that is safe & reasonably priced is found then EV's will make sense but right now they do not.
MY other problem is selling some thing to the ignorant with total BS like Musk has done with Tesla forcing all the others to follow him down the road of electric euphoria , which unfortunately leads directly to hell .
So if you live in the city, drive less than 20 miles a day, have open air parking or a detatched car port then an EV makes sense
However the 3,000 people who had their cars destroyed in the Luton airport car park might just think a bit different to that .

You may have seen me post a couple of video's about the sodium ion batteries that are on the rise. Do you have any comment about those?
I think they're promising. According to what I've heard, they last longer, do better in cold weather and not apt to catch on fire like Lithium. The expensive metals found in LI batteries is not needed in the SI batteries. Just common metals.

 

[7394]

I read that Elon Musk has bought Ford Mo Co. True ? IDK..

The SI batteries make too much sense. Old man in house that is white will never go for that, no money in it for them.

 

[PTmowerMech]

I read that Elon Musk has bought Ford Mo Co. True ? IDK..

The SI batteries make too much sense. Old man in house that is white will never go for that, no money in it for them.

SI do make a lot of sense. And they kill two birds with one stone.

One of the reasons why there's so few desalinization plants along our coast is the brine that released back into the oceans. Where it's piped back into the oceans, makes it too salty for marine life. This brine can be used in SI batteries. In fact it would reduce the cost of getting the salt out of the water if much of the water is already extracted.

I don't see Biden going against SI batteries. Unless it's only to take up for the oil companies. Despite popular belief, Biden has been very good to the oil companies. Record high profits so far under him. And now, record high oil/gas production.

I think the Musk/Ford thing is fake news.

 

[7394]

I think the Musk/Ford thing is fake news.

No comment on biden. But agree Musk / Ford is more fake news.

 

[PTmowerMech]

No comment on biden. But agree Musk / Ford is more fake news.

What about him? He's a lying politician, like 99% of the others. "I'm going to end fossil fuels in the USA." One of the biggest lies I've ever heard. But for some reason, so many people on both sides believed him.

 

[bertsmobile1]

What about him? He's a lying politician, like 99% of the others. "I'm going to end fossil fuels in the USA." One of the biggest lies I've ever heard. But for some reason, so many people on both sides believed him.

Removing all fossel fuels will take decades because we have become so reliant upon them .
To date not a single large agricultural equipment maker has any plans to change from diesel engines
On a open mike radio show a while back one cocky mentioned that to use a battery powered combine he would have to be dragging 25 ton of battery behind and that would take 2 days to charge and only last 12 hours, so he would need 3 of them as a tow behind power source .
Harvest takes 220 hours non stop on his property in a good year
As I have said before CO2 is a tiny part but for some strange reason it is the only thing people are talking about
Roof top solar to a local or community battery is a game changer but highly unlikely to happen because of legal & financial problems about the land it sits on and every one buying back up batteries will be too expensive for individual households .
A flow cell battery ( the only one that stacks up environmentally & economically ) big enough for 10 Aust houses overnight is around the size of a 20' shipping container
Currently the best solution has been to put it in 2 peoples back yard evenly agains the fence line of the next 2 connected households then run a driveway to it through the other * peoples back yards ( sort of reinventing the old dunny cart lanes ) but that requires redrawing the registering the property boundaries which costs a mint to do .

 

[hlw49]

To me the best sources of energy are hydro electric and necular.