Sorry, 3 maybe 4 safety switches on this one. Two 4 terminal safety switches (part number 725-1657A) and 1 reverse switch (part number 725-1643) and then if you look to the right hand side of the wiring diagram you will see a lead not attached to any part. On the seat breakdown they list a seat switch optional ( part number 783-0611)
Have 12+ volts, but still- starting problem
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back from work- OK, no need to apologise, Riv, as you are working hard. I cant complain about that.
Now, I will study your recent post, BUT, it just hit me- This may be big:
For years now, the transmission has behaved badly- most of the time, when the stick is in neutral, youd expect the mower to roll easily back/forth, but noooooooo. It is STUCK, meaning when in neutral, the mowwer is still in gear- wont roll for beans until started. . Frustrates the heck out of me. Reason I mentuion this is I read somewhere (manual??) that if the mower is NOT in neutral, it wont start. So, can it be that this is a problem with interference with the elec starting circuit?
I can live with the annoyance of the mower being "stuck" not being able to be rolled for/aft, but if this interferes with circuit, maybe we got something here. Note: sometimes, when placed in neutral, it DOES roll easily for/aft, as it is truly in neutral.
Also, just to be prepared- I am prepared to give the mower a vasectomy. These starter safety switches- what good are they? Cant I just hot wire them all (jump the contacts)? Like, what is the big deal anyway? If the mower tips over/rolls over, will a "safety switch stop the blades? If not, what good are these swicthes?
I jumped the Dummy switch on the clutch on my old stick shift car. No biggee. True- no cutting blades on that.
Now, I will study your recent post, BUT, it just hit me- This may be big:
For years now, the transmission has behaved badly- most of the time, when the stick is in neutral, youd expect the mower to roll easily back/forth, but noooooooo. It is STUCK, meaning when in neutral, the mowwer is still in gear- wont roll for beans until started. . Frustrates the heck out of me. Reason I mentuion this is I read somewhere (manual??) that if the mower is NOT in neutral, it wont start. So, can it be that this is a problem with interference with the elec starting circuit?
I can live with the annoyance of the mower being "stuck" not being able to be rolled for/aft, but if this interferes with circuit, maybe we got something here. Note: sometimes, when placed in neutral, it DOES roll easily for/aft, as it is truly in neutral.
Also, just to be prepared- I am prepared to give the mower a vasectomy. These starter safety switches- what good are they? Cant I just hot wire them all (jump the contacts)? Like, what is the big deal anyway? If the mower tips over/rolls over, will a "safety switch stop the blades? If not, what good are these swicthes?
I jumped the Dummy switch on the clutch on my old stick shift car. No biggee. True- no cutting blades on that.
Slow down, no need to look that far ahead. We have given you a long list of homework while you were out. Reread it all three times and then go find the three or four safety switches. Believe me they are there. Once you find them go through the test we posted for you. TEACHER VOICE NOW. Follow the instructions listed, don't skip steps, don't over think it and go slow. Lawnranger , EngineMan, PugAltitude, and I are all in agreement, that if your do as we say, you will find the problem tonight. Trust us, we think we're pros.:laughing::laughing::laughing:
And, Riv, I know we can go in circles on such a problem, so I am prepared to either hot wire the 2 safety switches and/or spend the stupid $10 on ebay for the ign switch AND another $20 for 2 safety switches. Cheap. Then, even if that doesnt solve it, THEN we come back here......LOL!!!
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Am not liking this...! If you take out all safety switches you are putting you're self and others at risk, not only have you now telling us that you have problem's with the gearbox not going in or out of gear, and if in gear will stay in gear, hmm lets just say that you do cut out all safety, you jump off engine running mover now desired to a funny moment and off it go's across next doors lawn with 2 year old playing....just one reason why safety should always come first. I and I hope better members on here will NOT tell you, or would advice you to do such a thing, we are here to help you repair things, and never ever will tell you to put you're or other's life's at risk.
Keep working on the problem, with help, you will get there am sure.
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I totally agree:thumbsup: They were installed for a reason---even though they were forced to-----and I have no problem with any of them. On older machines, I have actually install a switch to prevent starting in gear.:thumbsup:
OK, not a problem at all, people. Thats why I asked your opinions on it- I wasnt bent on it- just asked (and I did) what would happen if I did. So, onto the problem again. But, remember my other point in that post- I can spend a few $ to swap out stuff ONLY if/when yous suggest its time to do it. I am open to that idea.
Mower will not run out of control with blades running to chop the next door's little kid. My "gear " problem exists only when mower is shut off, get it? Once its running, gears shift correctly. Only reason I mentioned it was not to dwell on the mower in neutral "stuck" when off problem, only that if this could interfere with starting electrics.
And if this is irrelevent to circuitry, we can focus again on basics of wiring without the trans issue.
Thanks again, people
Mower will not run out of control with blades running to chop the next door's little kid. My "gear " problem exists only when mower is shut off, get it? Once its running, gears shift correctly. Only reason I mentioned it was not to dwell on the mower in neutral "stuck" when off problem, only that if this could interfere with starting electrics.
And if this is irrelevent to circuitry, we can focus again on basics of wiring without the trans issue.
Thanks again, people
I agree, Riv. Im cool. And, I need you here.