Have 12+ volts, but still- starting problem

Rivets

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Try that again. Are there two or four terminals on each safety switch?
 

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Getting confused again. Are you telling me that each safety switch has four wires connected to it?

Right. I just asumed you knew the setup- but if not, no biggee- I guessed all MTD's were all the same(?)

Yes- each switch has 4 blade ends inside. Call them connectors. They clip onto the harness holding 4 wire ends, BUT, I think (memory) 2 of those connectors have 2 wires stuffed into one blade end. One has 2 yellows. Another might have a or/ and or/blk. Either way, the ohms reading is for the blade end, even if it had 2 wires onto it....

Hope that helps, Riv.
 

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Try that again. Are there two or four terminals on each safety switch?

four. (and, again, 2 had no resistivity when tested either with pin pushed in or not pushed in. ). But both tested exactly the same.
 

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Yaaaawwwwnnnn, gees, Riv, maybe I'll have to see ya again tomorow night. Too tired. Gonna watch maybe Ancient Aliens, or Little House on the Prarie. in bed. Have a good night, and big thanks.........
 

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Please send the model number of the tractor. I have to look this one up.
 

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Ok, tomorrow
 

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Please send the model number of the tractor. I have to look this one up.

I posted it in my Post # 53.........mod and ser # too......

My manual's diagrams are soooo tiny, almost useless.
 

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According to the diagram, there are four safety switches. Seat, reverse, clutch, and PTO. According to the wiring diagram, the yellow wires are for the starting circuit and the red wires are part of the reverse over ride circuit. We will concentrate on the yellow wires. To start the engine current leaves the key switch and goes to the clutch safety switch. Brake pedal pushed down safety switch closes sending current to the seat safety switch. Sitting on the seat closes the safety switch sending current to both the PTO switch and the reverse switch. If the reverse safety switch is working properly, with the unit in reverse the circuit will be grounded and the unit will not start. If the unit is in neutral the switch is open and current will go to the PTO switch. If the PTO switch is working properly with the PTO off the current will go to the solenoid, allowing the engine to start.
After I went through the diagram you listed ( I know this is not your unit ) i think you must also have weight on the seat to start the engine. I hope this makes sense to you. It is much more difficult to troubleshoot this when I cannot see everything you see. I will continue to work with you to solve this problem, as long as you want me to. Sorry, I know that I repeat my questions, but I am working through your eyes, and with other posters, and I forget which units I am talking about. Please bear with my short comings, as some on this forum don't feel that I know what I am talking about. Would you also check that unit brand name and model number. I cannot find it in any of my MTD material.
 

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EngineMan is half right, sorry, but if a safety switch is the problem, that reading will be infinite due to the fact that a switch is open.

I have no diagrams to go by, so just working off one's head, Didn't mean to get in the way, I to couldn't find any good info on this just yet, so will sit back on this one.:rolleyes:
 

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Please don't, this ones got me going in circles and I could use any help I can get. I would appreciate it if you went through the entire thread and give me your thoughts and ideas. The diagram listed is not for his unit, but I think it is close. Remember I'm told by some I don't know what I am talking about.
 
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