Have 12+ volts, but still- starting problem

[rigoletto]

Yellow/blackstrip is part of the safety switch circuit and needs to be hooked up. It runs from the seat switch and one of the two 4 wire safety switches you have found. Also, have you checked that fuse???

Sorry, Riv, but I should have told you way before, but yes, that fuse is tight there- its still good. The "stripped" wire is the safety for the reverse, I believe. It should attach to a kind of "short" metal tab under the cover plate. Simple enough, considering what weve been through.

BUT, yes, I could hook it up but all that does is stop the blades when reversing, right? (BTW, how does it do that if the blades are controled by the pulleys/belts, not wiring, right?)

AND, thanks to Riv (the Prof who's always prodding me to do homework....LOL) , I also found the last safety switch, at the seat. Its just a simple metal tab that short circuits the engine when rider gets off, I believe. Still, I dont get what this has to do with starting problem.

I think the only safety switch problem relevant to starting is the 2: clutch/brake, AND maybe the blades STOP lever/when "parked" (PDO??)

And, they are 4 wire switches. Again, I tested them for Ohms. 0.4 each. Getting there............

 

[rigoletto]

Yellow/blackstrip is part of the safety switch circuit and needs to be hooked up. It runs from the seat switch and one of the two 4 wire safety switches you have found.

Hmmm, thats a head scratcher. Doesnt this hook up to the tab under the square "plate" that one removes to access (accesss plate)? So the F-N-R lever/shifter hits it when reverse lever touches it? Thats not under the seat, as so far, I didnt fiind anything under seat. (willl double look again tomorrow).

 

[Rivets]

If you look at all the posts there are four people trying to help you solve this problem. If you read my post #78 and pugs post #88 look at that wiring diagram you will see what I am talking about. Remember I told you to just concentrate on the yellow wires, they control the starting. Take a test like and follow what I posted in #78, yellow wires only.

 

[Rivets]

Hook up that wire and don't worry about reverse until the engine starts. Reverse has nothing to do with getting engine to start. Talk to you tomorrow.

 

[EngineMan]

Can I ask was the photo's taken before or after you cleaned the solenoid, if after I would take solenoid off and clean the big connections, and also the bolts and make sure it as a good ground, (earth) take a lead off the battery before doing so. it may not be the main problem, but its worth doing anyway.

 

[rigoletto]

Can I ask was the photo's taken before or after you cleaned the solenoid, if after I would take solenoid off and clean the big connections, and also the bolts and make sure it as a good ground, (earth) take a lead off the battery before doing so. it may not be the main problem, but its worth doing anyway.

Officially, all contacts were cleaned/brushed. I know it still looks yucky, though.....They are "clean."

 

[rigoletto]

BUT.......Update: Yipeeeeeee, I finally got voltage going to the small terminal on solenoid!!!!! (giggling, childish like).......

Now, Im not there yet, but man, this is , I believe, good news, as before, I couldnt get voltage to that termional! But, now, still no voltage to starter. Sooo, maybe its the solenoid? I mean, if voltage goes to the small terminal and not "jumping" to the othet "outgoing" terminal to starter, isnt that proof of a bad solenoid?

(apparently, after cleaning all contacts/removing crud etc from safety switches, mounting al back again, that allowed for voltage to go to that path). Just mu edjukatid guess.......)

 

[EngineMan]

If you have given the solenoid a CLEANING and its still not working knowing that you have right volts there, then replace it.

 

[rigoletto]

If you have given the solenoid a CLEANING and its still not working knowing that you have right volts there, then replace it.

Good deal, eng man. So, its consensus after all these posts- its the solenoid? Plain and simple? If so, its a $10 item, can order today......

 

[Rivets]

That what I would do, maybe we will be able to put this one to bed soon.