California law bans small off-road gas engines, including lawnmowers and chainsaws

[Scrubcadet10]

 

[bertsmobile1]

This is what happens when the media get fixated on a tiny part of a problem ( pollution ) and ignore the totality.
So for the past 10 years it has been tailpipe CO2, tailpipe CO2 , tailpipe CO2 , tailpipe CO2 day in & day out.
So in the shallow minds of the administrators all they have to do is quit IC engines & the planet is saved.
Add to that no IC engines are made in Calofornia so there is not nett loss of income by banning them.
Add to that the reincarnation of P C Barnham in the form of Elon Musk and even Joe Public believes that the only problem is CO2.
So to them, buy electric everything slap some panels on the roof then bolt a bomb to the side of your house and you can carry on temperature controlling your house with a thermal effiency of -20 to underwear comfortable 24/7 .
And of course Li batteries are clean & green, there is no pollution associated with them what so ever

 

[Hammermechanicman]

Back in the 80's i did some moonlighting with a solar company called Ambient Energy. They specialized in solar home heating and domeatic water heating. I took college classes in the subject and my job was to do energy assesments and calculations. We partnered with the local power company to use their thermal camera to do heat loss calculations of a building and i used that with solar isolation tables to do heat and cooling load calculations and used that data to design solar systems. I also did the simple payback calculations or how may years will it take to make it worthwhile. Photovoltaic was not a big thing back then but i have been helping friends looking into PV do the payback calculations. Long story short. If people added more attic insulation and better windows they would get a much better payback on investment than a PV system. But an uber cool PV system would be so much better than boring old attic insulation even though it will take 20 years to pay for itself and insulation will average 3 to 5 years. Even a simple solar water heating system will payback in less than 10 years if you DIY it. If commiefonia focused a little more on changing building codes to make homes and buildings more energy efficient they would be better off than the grandstanding BS banning SORE.

 

[PTmowerMech]

This is what happens when the media get fixated on a tiny part of a problem ( pollution ) and ignore the totality.
So for the past 10 years it has been tailpipe CO2, tailpipe CO2 , tailpipe CO2 , tailpipe CO2 day in & day out.
So in the shallow minds of the administrators all they have to do is quit IC engines & the planet is saved.
Add to that no IC engines are made in Calofornia so there is not nett loss of income by banning them.
Add to that the reincarnation of P C Barnham in the form of Elton Musk and even Joe Public believes that the only problem is CO2.
So to them, buy electric everything slap some panels on the roof then bolt a bomb to the side of your house and you can carry on temperature controlling your house with a thermal effiency of -20 to underwear comfortable 24/7 .
And of course Li batteries are clean & green, there is no pollution associated with them what so ever

Lithium's carbon footprint

 

[Stokdgs]

The same self righteous ass hats that that continually vote in the idiots are the ones that drive their Hummers to the Sierra club meetings. To a certain extent we are all hypocrites but commiefornia has taken it to a whole new level. Nice place to visit but would never live there. Same for new york state. Maybe we can make California Oregon and Washington the Union of Leftmerica Socialist Republic. That would be an interesting experiment

You get the government you vote for. Obvioussly the voters in california want this. I have no sympathy for California. If their taxes to go to 100% so be it. Everyone is entitled to their politics and to vote for who they want. If your candidate does stupid stuff don't complain to me.

No, the voters did not want this.. Over 1 million voters signed the petition to recall that idiot Nuisance/Newsom..
But the election turned out to be jacked again... People went to cast their vote and were told "they had already voted".. Sound fair to you??

Here's what I think about CA where I have lived for over 50 years - if all the great, great, people who do all the hardest work leave CA, then the whole place will collapse, because it will be left to the left to do all the work...

I met a lot of the biggest growers of all things in CA that we get at the grocery store produce section every day; they were all Armenian.. Why do you think they made that trip all the way to America to work even harder 24/7 growing thousands of acres of all the great stuff you get at the grocery store?
Because the absolute disaster, communist, marxist, socialist, life they had back home home was better?

Say what you want about CA all day long... Just be glad we, the normal people are still here keeping it going to feed half the Nation... And a lot of other countries that pay top dollar for the best CA produces..

Farming is an absolute 24/7/365days/year job... You have to really love it to do it.. It never stops...

The most beautiful weather, the most fertile soils, the most beautiful blue coastline the entire length of it, probably a few reasons why we stay and just put up with the evil state government..

Where I used to live, it was a 2-hr drive to the beautiful coastline and city of San Francisco, or 2 hours to the East. to all the snow you could ever imagine at Lake Tahoe..

My 2nd daughter, born and raised in CA, attended UCSB, (University of California, Santa Barbara), majoring in Political Science. Graduated summa cum laude in 3 years, and got a great job in State government..
Lasted barely 2 years there, she hated all the Corruption.. She was never going to give in to it..

So, it's something we all just deal with but we do not like it, and hope someday, it might change over to the other side for awhile..

 

[Stokdgs]

This is what happens when the media get fixated on a tiny part of a problem ( pollution ) and ignore the totality.
So for the past 10 years it has been tailpipe CO2, tailpipe CO2 , tailpipe CO2 , tailpipe CO2 day in & day out.
So in the shallow minds of the administrators all they have to do is quit IC engines & the planet is saved.
Add to that no IC engines are made in Calofornia so there is not nett loss of income by banning them.
Add to that the reincarnation of P C Barnham in the form of Elon Musk and even Joe Public believes that the only problem is CO2.
So to them, buy electric everything slap some panels on the roof then bolt a bomb to the side of your house and you can carry on temperature controlling your house with a thermal effiency of -20 to underwear comfortable 24/7 .
And of course Li batteries are clean & green, there is no pollution associated with them what so ever

Does anyone think that if all the States in this Republic ever adopted the strictest emission rules of California, and perhaps a few other countries did the same, that this Little, Tiny, blip of kind of cleaner air, is going to make ANY difference, when the Rest of The World is hard at work, Polluting their part of the Atmosphere, Big Time, 24/7 ????????

Guess I just do not understand this "new"(?) math....

 

[bertsmobile1]

I met a lot of the biggest growers of all things in CA that we get at the grocery store produce section every day; they were all Armenian.. Why do you think they made that trip all the way to America to work even harder 24/7 growing thousands of acres of all the great stuff you get at the grocery store?
Because the absolute disaster, communist, marxist, socialist, life they had back home home was better?

It is not the system as such but the people who exploited it for their benefit .
Not all that much different to what you posted "But the election turned out to be jacked again... People went to cast their vote and were told "they had already voted".. Sound fair to you"
Same as 1/3 of the leaders of supposedly democratic free market countries like Indonesia , Burma, Ceylon , Syria , Iran, Iraq , Nigeria etc etc etc .
Most of the political problems in South America can be seated back home to the USA doing their absolute best to undermine every government that was not 100% aligned with USA idologies because the CIA ( and other covert agencies ) have not noticed that the cold war was over decades ago .
Unfortunately once you set these things in motion it takes decades for them to work themselves out .
Add to that the detrimental effect of catholism which preaches to be meek and accept the rule of tyrants so the tyrants will allow the churches to remain there

Oh and in case you had not noticed Australia exports food all over the world as well
Even to the USA despite all of the efforts of various State & Federal governments doing their best to prevent it.

However all of this does not change the fact that the ban was stupid and will lead to a substantial increase in pollution on a global basis .

 

[4getgto]

I live in California and work tirelessly to get rid of these worse-than-useless politicians. I can only assume that the same election corruption that landed Dementia Joe in the Whitehouse is at work, bigtime, in California.

Quite the first post. !!!

 

[PTmowerMech]

Does anyone think that if all the States in this Republic ever adopted the strictest emission rules of California, and perhaps a few other countries did the same, that this Little, Tiny, blip of kind of cleaner air, is going to make ANY difference, when the Rest of The World is hard at work, Polluting their part of the Atmosphere, Big Time, 24/7 ????????

Guess I just do not understand this "new"(?) math....

We haven't been an actual republic since the lobbyist took over. We still call it one. But it's not.

 

[PTmowerMech]

No, the voters did not want this.. Over 1 million voters signed the petition to recall that idiot Nuisance/Newsom..
But the election turned out to be jacked again... People went to cast their vote and were told "they had already voted".. Sound fair to you??

Here's what I think about CA where I have lived for over 50 years - if all the great, great, people who do all the hardest work leave CA, then the whole place will collapse, because it will be left to the left to do all the work...

I met a lot of the biggest growers of all things in CA that we get at the grocery store produce section every day; they were all Armenian.. Why do you think they made that trip all the way to America to work even harder 24/7 growing thousands of acres of all the great stuff you get at the grocery store?
Because the absolute disaster, communist, marxist, socialist, life they had back home home was better?

Say what you want about CA all day long... Just be glad we, the normal people are still here keeping it going to feed half the Nation... And a lot of other countries that pay top dollar for the best CA produces..

Farming is an absolute 24/7/365days/year job... You have to really love it to do it.. It never stops...

The most beautiful weather, the most fertile soils, the most beautiful blue coastline the entire length of it, probably a few reasons why we stay and just put up with the evil state government..

Where I used to live, it was a 2-hr drive to the beautiful coastline and city of San Francisco, or 2 hours to the East. to all the snow you could ever imagine at Lake Tahoe..

My 2nd daughter, born and raised in CA, attended UCSB, (University of California, Santa Barbara), majoring in Political Science. Graduated summa cum laude in 3 years, and got a great job in State government..
Lasted barely 2 years there, she hated all the Corruption.. She was never going to give in to it..

So, it's something we all just deal with but we do not like it, and hope someday, it might change over to the other side for awhile..

I used to love going out to California. I hauled thousands of loads of produce from Watsonville, Gilroy and many other places. From far west coast to the Bronx, Phili and Boston Market. Your high patrol, who worked the weigh stations and bug check stations acted like their tickets were their Christmas bonuses. When I'd bring in flavoring from the east coast or the midwest, too many times, they forced me to break the seal on my trailer, so they could look in and see the hazmat labels on the container. Which caused a FRIGGIN HUGE problem when I'd arrive at the shippers with a broken seal on a load of food grade chemicals. The DOT would reseal the load before I left. But the numbers on the BOL's didn't match the numbers on the original seal. Pain in the butt, revenue generators.
My biggest "you're a moron" ticket came from being 1 hole too far, on a 53' trailer that had less than 3,000lbs on it. I wasn't even close to being over weight. But because of the stupid length law, I ended up paying about $200 in fines. The DOT officer didn't seem to understand that the trailer isn't any longer, regardless of where the trailer axles were. And that the law was to help keep the heavy loads from weighing down both the truck and/or trailer axles.

Oh, and the Mexican ladies of California. OMG. Prettiest in the world.