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pugaltitude

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But thats what you dont understand, what happens in America happens in the rest of the world certainly over here.
You change oil prices it effects us.
You bring out product it effects us.
You go to war it effects us.
Everything America does changes the world because of the super power.
Iv got enough to worry about.
We are going to vote soon if Scotland wants to be independant to the rest of Britain.
No way do i want that to then have our own debt etc
I know i dont live there and have only been once as a child but it will effect everybody worldwide.
 

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How does my possession of numerous firearms affect you? Please expound on that statement. I don't believe it does, at all. You should worry about the police being able to inspect one's home simply because they possess firearms. But you don't. And I don't gripe about you having fewer rights than me. Or anything else about your homeland. So can it.

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Oh, and there's another key difference. Worried about independence? Have to vote for it? We won ours, over 200 years ago. So far, excepting the u.n., we've kept it. Why wouldn't you want independence? THAT is something I can't understand.

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Oh, and there's another key difference. Worried about independence? Have to vote for it? We won ours, over 200 years ago. So far, excepting the u.n., we've kept it. Why wouldn't you want independence? THAT is something I can't understand.

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We are not big enough or powerful enough to look after ourselves.
Debt is shared throughout britain.
Now if we went independant our own debt would probably triple or more.
We dont have an army, schools would change, jobs and even our money may change.
We would not have money.
Money is life and life is money.
 

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How does my possession of numerous firearms affect you? Please expound on that statement. I don't believe it does, at all. You should worry about the police being able to inspect one's home simply because they possess firearms. But you don't. And I don't gripe about you having fewer rights than me. Or anything else about your homeland. So can it.

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Iv never said anything about you having more firearms effect me.
Why should i worry about the police inspecting my house for firearms when i dont have any?
What do you mean having fewer rights than me? I have not mentioned rights.
Basically all i have said is change gun laws and 20 kids might be alive today.
 

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Its also not really a vote for independance but vote for prefered candidate who is then going to try and change the way we live.
Basically just like vote for obama or vote romney on the way you think your country should be run.
A lawnmower forum will not change the world unfortunately.:laughing:
 

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I havent got a problem with anybodys point of view and fully respect any of them as we live in a "free"
World to say what we want (within reason).
Yes chainsaws should have licences aswell.
I still cant believe that in this day and age anybody can go to a supermarket and buy something as dangerous as a saw.
We have the "right" to drive a car once we have past a "test".
Thats what guns should have as well.
Yes anybody may be able to aquire firearms illegally but lets make it harder.
Just had a documentary on with america having 50% of the worlds firearms with only 5% of worlds population. Something wrong.
Why do 10% of women in America own a firearm?
America is one hell of a scary place!!!

I agree with everyone's opinion here but lets not get carried away (chainsaw License's) :confused2: You say We have the "right" to drive a car once we have past a "test".
That's what guns should have as well, and they do to carry a concealed weapon and the nice thing is you can call and take the coarse in your own home.
The thing is that America started as a gun culture in the beginning and it still is today and will never change no matter what new laws are government comes up with.
 

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pugaltitude
You say anybody may be able to acquire firearms illegally but lets make it harder. How would you make it Harder???????????
 

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You say anybody may be able to acquire firearms illegally but lets make it harder. How would you make it Harder???????????

This is going to be the difficult part.
Education, laws, licences, tougher port control to stop illegal import of firearms and supermarkets to stop selling guns and bullets.
Probably whats going on now but maybe tougher.
I know its very difficult and glad im not the decision maker.
 

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As a gun owner, I think we have plenty of restrictions on WHO may or may not possess. I think we need REAL penalties for those who possess illegally, or those who transfer to those who are restricted from possession. As it stands, you only do a few years, and if you're a criminal to begin with, you don't mind. Prison is college for criminals. That's why I don't sell. If I could, for free, run a background check on a personal transfer, I would. As would all other gun owners. But FFL holders charge a fee for this. Why? Its in a freely accessible database, if the FBI would comply. You'd need an SSN, so it's not like there would be rampant fraud. If we had a way of psychiatric treatment, not just medicating and criminalization, we wouldn't see these nuts doing this.

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