zero turn for sloping land

KrashnKraka

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I've been told that a zero turn with steering wheel is the best mower for sloping land.......

And take that statement for what it is... garbage.
It is about center of gravity, for any machine... mower/tractor/ship

For mowers on slopes it is also about traction and horsepower, remembering ZTR
is virtually a "skid steer" system and so waaaay more versatile and controllable.
There isn't a rider made that will match a ZTR around slopes and acute grades.
Take that to the Bank.
The ZTR's with s/wheels I am familiar with are virtually a rider with hydro drives,,
for the purpose of considering CoG.
Get a demo..or get shown one working on similar country to yours.
 

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And take that statement for what it is... garbage. It is about center of gravity, for any machine... mower/tractor/ship For mowers on slopes it is also about traction and horsepower, remembering ZTR is virtually a "skid steer" system and so waaaay more versatile and controllable. There isn't a rider made that will match a ZTR around slopes and acute grades. Take that to the Bank. The ZTR's with s/wheels I am familiar with are virtually a rider with hydro drives,, for the purpose of considering CoG. Get a demo..or get shown one working on similar country to yours.

I disagree a riding mower is a lot better on slopes then a ztr
 

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I agree with Carscw, ZTRs have a strong tendency to slide sideways on hills as there is no control over the front wheels and ridged suspension on most. Where I mowed for years with GTs with no problem, I now have to turn the ZTR around on the level area, back it down the hill and mow up the hill. 20 plus degree hills however.
 

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I agree with Carscw, ZTRs have a strong tendency to slide sideways on hills as there is no control over the front wheels and ridged suspension on most. Where I mowed for years with GTs with no problem, I now have to turn the ZTR around on the level area, back it down the hill and mow up the hill. 20 plus degree hills however.

I still carry a GT with me for hill 20 plus degrees.
And for cutting brush.

The ZTRs with the steering wheel really do good on hills. Because you have control of the front wheels.

Best mower I have ever used for hills. Is a snapper RER.
 

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OP said 10 degree slope, just about any z-turn will handle that, with 6 acres you will need more than a residential mower if you want it to last more than a few years.
If you have a Husqvarna dealer you might look at MZ52, it's low to medium commercial.
It starts at $4199.95 to $4999.95 depending on engine and stamped or fabricated deck, they have Hydro-Gear zt3100 commercial drives.
Go to URL Found to see them.

After you run a z-turn for a while yo will get pretty good on slopes, I have a small slope the width of the house top to bottom around 30' it measures out at 16 degrees, I mow it across with no problem now.

At first if not sure mow up and down slope till you get comfortable.
 

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OP said 10 degree slope, just about any z-turn will handle that, with 6 acres you will need more than a residential mower if you want it to last more than a few years.
If you have a Husqvarna dealer you might look at MZ52, it's low to medium commercial.
It starts at $4199.95 to $4999.95 depending on engine and stamped or fabricated deck, they have Hydro-Gear zt3100 commercial drives.
Go to URL Found to see them.

After you run a z-turn for a while yo will get pretty good on slopes, I have a small slope the width of the house top to bottom around 30' it measures out at 16 degrees, I mow it across with no problem now.

At first if not sure mow up and down slope till you get comfortable.

Husqvarna, like snapper pro, are more affordable than most other brands with similar specs. A consumer can get more bang for their buck so to speak. The mz would be considered low end commercial/high end residential. The mzt is a mid level commercial mower. It is offered with the fs series Kawi engine, zt3400 hydros and a fabricated deck.

I do agree that the op should be at least looking into a low end commercial mower for the amount of acrage he is mowing, but it sounds as though his options are either cub cadet, or toro. I haven't priced many low end commercial cub cadet ztr mowers, but I know toro gets pretty pricey once you get into their commercial line.
 

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Husqvarna, like snapper pro, are more affordable than most other brands with similar specs. A consumer can get more bang for their buck so to speak. The mz would be considered low end commercial/high end residential. The mzt is a mid level commercial mower. It is offered with the fs series Kawi engine, zt3400 hydros and a fabricated deck.

I do agree that the op should be at least looking into a low end commercial mower for the amount of acrage he is mowing, but it sounds as though his options are either cub cadet, or toro. I haven't priced many low end commercial cub cadet ztr mowers, but I know toro gets pretty pricey once you get into their commercial line.





My budget is under 7 grand and the low commercial cubs are in that range with a 60" deck. But the problem remains: Toro does not make a commercial ZT with a steering wheel and most people are saying a commercial is what I should be looking at. I tend to agree......I couldn't find a steering wheel on most brands of ZT's. I've loved my cub garden tractor, I think I'm just going to have to go with the CC. Just sure would like to do some comparisons...but in commercial with S wheel....where?
 

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My budget is under 7 grand and the low commercial cubs are in that range with a 60" deck. But the problem remains: Toro does not make a commercial ZT with a steering wheel and most people are saying a commercial is what I should be looking at. I tend to agree......I couldn't find a steering wheel on most brands of ZT's. I've loved my cub garden tractor, I think I'm just going to have to go with the CC. Just sure would like to do some comparisons...but in commercial with S wheel....where?

Have you ever used a ztr with lap bars? The lap bars are less work and a lot easier to use in my opinion. I guess it may be all in what your use to.
 

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Have you ever used a ztr with lap bars? The lap bars are less work and a lot easier to use in my opinion. I guess it may be all in what your use to.

I agree. A ztr with a steering wheel isn't a must have for property with a 10% slope or less. A low end commercial mower with lap bars should suit you well. Personally, I enjoy mowing with my current ztr mower much more than I ever did with a mower that utilized a steering wheel. If you don't like lap bars there is another option. Country clipper, for instance, offers their mowers with a single joystick control. They are comfortable to operate, because there is an arm rest located behind the joystick for your right arm. Your left arm is free. That is considering there is a country clipper dealer near your area.
 

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After you run a z-turn for a while yo will get pretty good on slopes, I have a small slope the width of the house top to bottom around 30' it measures out at 16 degrees, I mow it across with no problem now.

At first if not sure mow up and down slope till you get comfortable.
I have already commented (at length) on the operational ability of some 'professionals'
who by their own tap tapping away have clearly communicated their owned barriers.

There is any number of demo videos illustrating ZTR CoG over riders,, so trolling the OP
with information he/she can easily disprove is beyond stooopid.
Then there is the learning.
I have yet to make use of the tip-over wheels on my ride. I am a "big guy", which
helps the CoG, and regularly do 45deg. I have one small section I weedwhack...it's
around 60deg.
One day....
 
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