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Which type of mower for very steep slope?

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ericthegreen

Hi all. I've just purchased a home with a one acre yard, 1/2 of which is comprised of a slope with a gradient of about 45 degrees. Is it feasible to mow a slope of this degree safely with an LT/GT? Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.


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BKBrown

BKBrown

Check out Ventrac - expensive, but worth it Ventrac Compact Tractors & Attachments

Hi all. I've just purchased a home with a one acre yard, 1/2 of which is comprised of a slope with a gradient of about 45 degrees. Is it feasible to mow a slope of this degree safely with an LT/GT? Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.


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Harriet

That's quite the challenge. What kind of a setting is it? Is it possible to replace with some other sort of ground cover that would not need to be mowed?


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jenkinsph

That is a very steep slope for most mowers and can be dangerous to deal with. Might have problems with erosion too. Can you post some pics of this?


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Ventrac

Ventrac

Hi all. I've just purchased a home with a one acre yard, 1/2 of which is comprised of a slope with a gradient of about 45 degrees. Is it feasible to mow a slope of this degree safely with an LT/GT? Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

Are you certain that it is 45 degrees? It is hard to even walk up a 45 degree slope. 45 degrees is 78.54% grade and as jenkins said before, you are going to have a lot of trouble with erosion making a healthy turf hard to keep up if you are mowing on it too. Our Ventrac Tractors are rated for 30 (58% grade) degree slopes with Duals Ventrac - Advantages: Slope Mowing. Maybe you could get a slope meter and verify that it is indeed 45 degrees. If so, Harriet probably has the best idea :thumbsup:


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KennyV

...gradient of about 45 degrees. Is it feasible to mow a slope of this degree safely with an LT/GT? Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

I don't think anything you could do to any LT or GT will allow you to safely do anything to that... Just too steep... Even the Ventrac that BKBrown, has would not be happy on that... and it is among the most stable tractors you will find....
I'm with everyone else.. change ground cover... plant sedum or something like it... Don't risk a bad accident. :smile:KennyV


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Muhammad

I'll join the choir: Not practical or safe to finish mow a 45 degree slope.


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steved

A well balanced string trimmer would be the safest...


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KennyV

Alright I found a guy mowing a steep hill...
YouTube - Norm Tupplin, 73 In Wheelchair mowing grass.
AND he is 73 doing it from a Wheelchair ... this could work, if your careful... :smile:KennyV


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Slater

Alright I found a guy mowing a steep hill...
YouTube - Norm Tupplin, 73 In Wheelchair mowing grass.
AND he is 73 doing it from a Wheelchair ... this could work, if your careful... :smile:KennyV

I think I would go the goat route if I had to do that! Gotta give the guy props for trying :thumbsup: I actually remember Ventrac making a wheelchair operated tractor like their 4000 Series. It had quick mount attachments, 4wd, center articulating, just a wider back for wheelchairs. Pretty sweet looking unit and very nice for those that want to get out and do their own work, but I am not sure where I saw it :mad:

Found this one, but this isn't what I am talking about. YouTube - Ventrac Freedom Model 300 Great little scooter to get around, but not the full fledged tractor I was trying to find.


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BKBrown

BKBrown

http://ventrac.com/pdf/VR300.pdf :thumbsup:

http://ventrac.com/products/other/vr300/

I think I would go the goat route if I had to do that! Gotta give the guy props for trying :thumbsup: I actually remember Ventrac making a wheelchair operated tractor like their 4000 Series. It had quick mount attachments, 4wd, center articulating, just a wider back for wheelchairs. Pretty sweet looking unit and very nice for those that want to get out and do their own work, but I am not sure where I saw it :mad:

Found this one, but this isn't what I am talking about. YouTube - Ventrac Freedom Model 300 Great little scooter to get around, but not the full fledged tractor I was trying to find.


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Slater


Ah yes there is the smaller unit on their site, too bad they no longer have the larger unit.


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KT88EE

Evatech Remote controlled tank track mowers. Check the engine oil spec for the angle. Hybrid Goat Robot 22T $12, 000 . I have a model RCLM S class which has been going for 7 years. He designs his own controller and software and it's tough and many software safety features not on other controllers. Constant software updates. Good guy to go to for any problems. Also he is an Electrical Engineer vs Joe blow the back yard welder. EVATECH OFFICIAL WEBSITE . Has been featured in Discovery etc etc. Check it out. Check for out of season sales. I have gotten software updates years after the sale.


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bjc

I have done 50 degrees on a Zero Turn, you just need a counter balance, but I am a redneck from heart, so if you are paranoid go to Land and Coates or home depot and buy yourself a nice walk behind:laughing::laughing::thumbsup::thumbsup:


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txzrider

txzrider

I think the numbers quoted for gradient are incorrect, I found this chart... File:Grades degrees.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
since the formula is 100xrise/run , 45 degrees would have to be a 100% gradient.


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rico7684

Hi all. I've just purchased a home with a one acre yard, 1/2 of which is comprised of a slope with a gradient of about 45 degrees. Is it feasible to mow a slope of this degree safely with an LT/GT? Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

My yard is 1.5 acres in Western NY and the slope varies from about 10 degrees to about 40 degrees. I mow with a John Deere X500 with HDAP tires on the rear and have no problems whatsoever. It has a foot operated traction assist, which provides power to both rear wheels if needed.

I usually don't mow when its wet, but have in the past & only had rear tire slippage going uphill, so if that happens I just mow side to side (horizontally).

I used to have a JD X111 with turf tires & never had a problem with that mower either and I've been mowing my yard for 11yrs. I will say the X500 is a much heavier duty machine than the X111 & feels very stable no matter if I mow up & down (vertically), or side to side.

Its something to consider & good luck on your quest!


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whmtd

I have slopes which are also around 40 degrees which I mow with an mtd ha4145 with a max gradient of 20% sure if go along the hill you will roll it but if you have a flatter area at the bottom of the slope going up and down works well when it is dry I have towed 150kg loads up it and the mower has coped fine if you are unsure about the traction or mow in the damp then a for wheel drive mower such as a john dere would probably be better but expensive compared to a mtd


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GentlemanFahmah

GentlemanFahmah

Any garden or lawn tractor can be modified to dual rear tires. Just run duals on it and then hold on tight!
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I used to mow steep banks for a summer job 40 years ago and we had Simplicity tractors with duals and we went sideways on 45 degree slopes daily. The hardest part of doing that is staying in the seat.

In my current location, I mow 45 degree slopes with my lawn tractor, but I have to go downhill straight on dry grass (as mentioned in previous response). Going uphill is out of the question due to flip backwards potential with seat directly over rear axle. With duals you can go sideways on steep slopes with nearly zero flip risk.

In my own experience, one of the things you do not see coming on steep slopes is loss of steering effectiveness as the uphill front tire is barely touching and the down hill tire is in contact, but not great. Always turn downhill because of the potential to flip backwards.


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grassmoney123

the Wright stander series is exactly what this job calls for. I recently got a buddy in the hill country of texas mowing tons of slopes. He said the thing is a pretty "fun" ride as well Wright Commercial Products


#20

Ric

Ric

I think the numbers quoted for gradient are incorrect, I found this chart... File:Grades degrees.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
since the formula is 100xrise/run , 45 degrees would have to be a 100% gradient.

I'm with you txzrider, sounds like someone is having dreams or maybe nightmares.


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friedfolk

I too have a 45 degree slope that I keep mowed as a fire break. We live in a forest. I modified a rear wheel drive walk behind mower by adding a steel circle around the drive tires. I put 3/4 inch screws through the steel hoop that act like large studs. Doing this puts much more stress on the drivetrain of the mower since there is virtually no more slippage of the wheels. If the mower has nylon gears cut into the drive wheels, it will fail within 4 hours of use. Trust me, I know from experience! :) You need a mower that has a chain drive gear reduction transmission. This type mower lasted 1 year before the chain/gear transmission failed. I replaced the transmission assembly and added a grease fitting to the housing around the chain drive. Each spring I pump it full of grease and it has worked for 4 years now with no failures. You will need replacement clutch gears and springs as these fail once or twice a year. These are located behind the drive wheels.
I mow on a diagonal so the mower is less likely to flip over. It takes some strength. I have built a robotic mower for this hill that is R/C controlled. My problem with it is traction. When there is no person attached to steer and support the mower, steering is difficult. On more level ground, my robot works very well. It is a hybrid design. There is a gas engine for the mower and a 24 volt alternator. There are two 12 volt batteries powering 2 electric motors. There is an electronic speed controller which is controlled by the radio system. It also has steel wheels with large studs for traction. I am looking into a tracked drive train but so far, they are very pricey!
I just thought I would add my experience to this topic.


#22

reynoldston

reynoldston

They make specal mowers just for that, steep slopes, only thing is you need very deep pockets to buy one.


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