The Daily Yardman Thread

[Ronno6]

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Hey, Boobot,
Yer 'bout to get socked in !
Batten down them hatchez.................

 

[BlazNT]

Re: Compressor repower

That would be 10ga so sayeth the Baldor spec sheet...........................

https://www.baldor.com/catalog/L1430T

Thanks, Hinder.

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Also remember that 10g stranded wire is about 10% larger than 10g solid wire.

 

[Ronno6]

Re: Compressor repower

Also remember that 10g stranded wire is about 10% larger than 10g solid wire.

And....8ga stranded is....HUGE !!!

 

[Roger B]

Re: Compressor repower

Thanks again, Skipper.
I find it interesting that the 3 charts I listed give different information.
We'll see what happens.
I have 8ga wire from the 40A breaker on the main panel to the sub panel.
I don't wanna have to redo that with heavier wire.
I guess if I need a bigger breaker the 8ga will handle a inrush 60A load.....(?)
Mebbe I'll git 'er cone today and see what happens.

Ron,

That you were provided with three different methods from three different charts is mostly due to the fact that you didn't review five or six different charts, then you would have had five or six different opinions to chose from.

Not to worry amigo, I suspect it will work just fine.

Rog

 

[Roger B]

Re: Compressor repower

Problem I'm limping into now is that the starter is rated for 5hp, but it dunna wanna accept 8ga wire............

People are tellin' me to use 10ga..................

You may de-rate the wire by using #10 pigtails and wire nutting the #8 to it. Or use Burndy split bolt connectors, or some other means of connecting the two together.. Maybe just snip a couple strands out of the #8 unless it's solid wire.

 

[Ronno6]

Re: Compressor repower

Ron,

That you were provided with three different methods from three different charts is mostly due to the fact that you didn't review five or six different charts, then you would have had five or six different opinions to chose from.

Not to worry amigo, I suspect it will work just fine.

Rog

Actually, I did, Skipper.
These seemed to be the most relevant:
One from the motor manufacturer,
One from the compressor manufacturer,
One from a generic compressor chart...

I checked several links provided bu Boobot, but they only had pics of naked women.....:laughing::licking::confused2:

 

[Roger B]

Re: Compressor repower

The motor only draws 22A or so when running, and start up when it pulls the most, is quick.
The "lugs" or, should I say...screw terminals just would NOT handle 8ga.
Period.
I contacted the seller of the starter and he said"we sell 50 gazillion if these every minute to compressor companies and they ALL use 10ga."
He also added "we have 3 compressor engineers on staff and they ALL say '10ga' "
Bla bla bla bla..."If you want to use 8ga install lugs."
So, I used 40A breaker and 10ga wire (6' from breaker to starter, and 2 feet from starter to motor) and...................
Wait for it...........

Wait for it...........

Wait for it...........

Wait for it...........


IT WORKS !! Wires do not get hot; compressor pumped up to 150 without a problem.
I'll bump up the pressure to test tomorrow.

There is a situation of 2 wires of dissimilar gage having to fit the same terminal..........pain in the buttocks.....
cuz the small wire dunna wanna get tight....so I have to insert a stub of another wire to make the little one "bigger."

Ron,

HOORAY!!! I knew it would work. Hey, just for fun, if you have a spare 30-Amp two pole breaker laying around, try swapping it for the 40-amp and see if it will stand the start-up current. At least that way the circuit won't be over protected. 30 amps is safe for up to 24 amps (running) and #10 wire is rated for 30-A. Then if the garage burns down, the insurance inspector won't be able to deny your claim because it wasn't wired correctly.. (Believe me it happens!!)

You done good!!

Rog

 

[Roger B]

Re: Compressor repower

Look on the MOTOR DATA PLATE .. what is the FLA numbers & if shown LRA numbers You may want to change the breaker to a 30AMP if you're using #10 THHN jacketed wire (just precautionary)

Geez Boo,

You're right up on that schitt ain't ya? And here I thought you was jus' another pretty face.. Not bad for a 'spanner twister"..

I'm impressed..

Rog

 

[Roger B]

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Dickhead??? I believe that is Mister Dickhead to you my friend. Life is getting in the way and a possible health issue. Will know more after I see a specialist on tbe 12th

Tom

Tom, (a.k.a - MISTER Frickin' Dickhead!!)

What's cookin' brother? Yer too damn young to be having any health issues.. Now "life" on the other hand is more often the problem for younger fella's, - but they are usually the cause of those problems in the first place, even if they won't admit it.

All joking aside.. I hope everything is alright...

Roger

 

[Ronno6]

Re: Compressor repower

Look on the MOTOR DATA PLATE .. what is the FLA numbers & if shown LRA numbers You may want to change the breaker to a 30AMP if you're using #10 THHN jacketed wire (just precautionary)

I plan on doing that. Thanky,sir.

You may de-rate the wire by using #10 pigtails and wire nutting the #8 to it. Or use Burndy split bolt connectors, or some other means of connecting the two together.. Maybe just snip a couple strands out of the #8 unless it's solid wire.

Thought about both of those approaches...Tnx, Skipper
Also looking set screw lugs from McMaster. Wish they were right angle 'stead of in-line.
The trick is gonna be to see if the lug is narrow enough to fit into the terminal wells on the starter.......

Ron,

HOORAY!!! I knew it would work. Hey, just for fun, if you have a spare 30-Amp two pole breaker laying around, try swapping it for the 40-amp and see if it will stand the start-up current. At least that way the circuit won't be over protected. 30 amps is safe for up to 24 amps (running) and #10 wire is rated for 30-A. Then if the garage burns down, the insurance inspector won't be able to deny your claim because it wasn't wired correctly.. (Believe me it happens!!)

You done good!!

Rog

Yup. Gonna do that. Rather painless....

I adjusted the pressure switch and ram 'er up to 160# this morn. Not a huccup!
I do need to rewire the pressure sw,tho. Wire too short and can't put cover on.
Probably use #12 or 14 romex fer that.
Gotta be neat!