Saw pictures of people lined up.

[Carscw]

History does repeat itself

 

[Mike88se]

No, that doesn't sound very restrictive at all. By the way, who told you that? It's wrong. From GunCite - Gun Control: Machine Guns
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A fully automatic weapon (a machine gun) is one that fires a succession of bullets so long as the trigger is depressed or until the ammunition supply is exhausted. In addition, any weapon that shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot automatically, more than one shot at a time by a single trigger pull, is legally considered to be a machine gun.

Submachine guns are fully automatic weapons that fire a handgun cartridge and can be operated by one person. Sometimes they are referred to as machine pistols.

A machine gun can normally fire between 400 and 1,000 rounds (bullets) per minute, or between 7 and 17 rounds per second.

Federal Firearms Regulations

It has been unlawful since 1934 (The National Firearms Act) for civilians to own machine guns without special permission from the U.S. Treasury Department. Machine guns are subject to a $200 tax every time their ownership changes from one federally registered owner to another, and each new weapon is subject to a manufacturing tax when it is made, and it must be registered with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in its National Firearms Registry.

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Never gonna happen, you say? It happened after hurricane Katrina, didn't you hear about that? Many of those folks were disarmed.

I think we all know what a machine gun is
Let me see if I got this part straight: the Connecticut .gov website is wrong because a gun nut site says it is. Seriously?
If you read through those sites you must have seen the part that said anyone owning a machine gun or any other weapon prior to the date the law went into effect is welcome to keep them through a grandfather clause. I couldn't swear that anyone in Connecticut owns a machine gun but I don't thing the state lege would put that clause in if there weren't some machine gun owners living there. I don't see why anyone needs a machine gun or a 100 or even a 30 round drum. Must be expecting the zombie apocalypse. And have more money than sense
I could bump fire an AK or AR and most people wouldn't know it wasn't a machine gun. And effectively it wouldn't matter.
If you want a weapon for home protection buy a shotgun. More likely to hit the bad guy and a lot less likely to kill the neighbors.

Katrina... you'll need to talk to the NOPD about that because that's who confiscated the 700 or so guns. They did offer them back with proof of ownership. Not many people could provide that proof. An agreement was reached later I think whereby people could claim their guns by signing an affidavit swearing that they were the true and rightful owner. Personally I wouldn't trust a NOLA cop any farther than I could toss him. The feds had nothing to do with that. So the NOPD is going to set up a commie government and take over the world? Could be true...

Apparently you did not hear about the 6 million or so people that they killed in Germany on the 1940's.

A lot fell on Russia as well same MO. Guns registered and collected in Cuba as well.

If you can't see how close we are to falling into communism you need to wake up and see what is happening around you. We are almost there.

Well yeah I did hear a lot about that. IIRC Germans did that. The ones you said had all their guns confiscated. You totally lost me there
The oil companies are making record profits and Wall Street & bankers are back to screwing people out of their hard earned money again but we're falling into communism??? No.. I'm sorry but that's just crazy talk. We're not in danger of becoming communist state... we're in danger of becoming a corporatocracy or whatever it's called when the richest control government. Hell we're already there really. We get to choose between the candidates the wealthiest in one party put up against the candidates that the wealthiest in the other party puts up.
From where I'm sitting that doesn't look much like a choice. We get to pick what we consider the lesser of two evils.

 

[Crawdad]

I think we all know what a machine gun is
Let me see if I got this part straight: the Connecticut .gov website is wrong because a gun nut site says it is. Seriously?
If you read through those sites you must have seen the part that said anyone owning a machine gun or any other weapon prior to the date the law went into effect is welcome to keep them through a grandfather clause. I couldn't swear that anyone in Connecticut owns a machine gun but I don't thing the state lege would put that clause in if there weren't some machine gun owners living there. I don't see why anyone needs a machine gun or a 100 or even a 30 round drum. Must be expecting the zombie apocalypse. And have more money than sense
I could bump fire an AK or AR and most people wouldn't know it wasn't a machine gun. And effectively it wouldn't matter.
If you want a weapon for home protection buy a shotgun. More likely to hit the bad guy and a lot less likely to kill the neighbors.

Katrina... you'll need to talk to the NOPD about that because that's who confiscated the 700 or so guns. They did offer them back with proof of ownership. Not many people could provide that proof. An agreement was reached later I think whereby people could claim their guns by signing an affidavit swearing that they were the true and rightful owner. Personally I wouldn't trust a NOLA cop any farther than I could toss him. The feds had nothing to do with that. So the NOPD is going to set up a commie government and take over the world? Could be true...

Well yeah I did hear a lot about that. IIRC Germans did that. The ones you said had all their guns confiscated. You totally lost me there
The oil companies are making record profits and Wall Street & bankers are back to screwing people out of their hard earned money again but we're falling into communism??? No.. I'm sorry but that's just crazy talk. We're not in danger of becoming communist state... we're in danger of becoming a corporatocracy or whatever it's called when the richest control government. Hell we're already there really. We get to choose between the candidates the wealthiest in one party put up against the candidates that the wealthiest in the other party puts up.
From where I'm sitting that doesn't look much like a choice. We get to pick what we consider the lesser of two evils.

53-202c, and 53-202e say you're wrong.And, your use of the term "gun nut" means I can't change your mind.
You are correct about one thing, though. Local police departments are becoming more militarized,

 

[Ric]

Saw on the internet where people are lined up to register their guns and magazines in Connecticut. Reckon how long it will be now before they are lining back up to hand them in?

I think this is a case of another government official going off the deep end again. I mean seriously Connecticut already had some of the strictest gun laws in the country, what good is registering a gun going to do? Is it going to stop what happened in Connecticut from happening again, No. There will always be guns available somewhere to buy without registration. There are in fact some states that prohibit any type of gun registration. This whole thing is just blown out of proportion.

 

[RobertBrown]

I think this is a case of another government official going off the deep end again. I mean seriously Connecticut already had some of the strictest gun laws in the country, what good is registering a gun going to do? Is it going to stop what happened in Connecticut from happening again, No. There will always be guns available somewhere to buy without registration. There are in fact some states that prohibit any type of gun registration. This whole thing is just blown out of proportion.

This legislation is right on the cusp of infringement. The teeth of it are right here and this is what bothers me.

Connecticut statutes contain provision that allow law enforcement officials to pre-emptively seize a person's firearms without a warrant or court order, when they have probable cause that the person may either be mentally unstable or intends to use the weapons to commit a crime. The weapons remain in the custody of the law enforcement office that confiscated them until further directed by an appropriate court of law.

meanwhile in Washington DC:

Starting on Jan. 2, every single D.C. resident who has registered a firearm since 1976 must go to police headquarters to pay a $48 fee and be photographed and fingerprinted.

The Metropolitan Police Department estimates there are at least 30,000 registered gun owners.

If the registrant does not go to the police station within three months after a set time frame, the registration is revoked. That citizen is then in possession of an unregistered firearm, which is a felony that carries a maximum penalty of a $1,000 fine and a year in jail.

The gun itself is put into a category of weapons that can never be registered, just as though it were a machine gun or a sawed-off shotgun.

The city has not made clear how it will enforce the law, but the police are in possession of all registrants home addresses so confiscation and arrests would be simple.

The police are notifying registrants by mail that they have to come to the station on the set schedule.

Read more: MILLER: Gun re-registration law in D.C. goes into effect in 2014, may lead to arrest, confiscation - Washington Times
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MILLER: Gun re-registration law in D.C. goes into effect in 2014, may lead to arrest, confiscation - Washington Times

 

[wjjones]

I think this is a case of another government official going off the deep end again. I mean seriously Connecticut already had some of the strictest gun laws in the country, what good is registering a gun going to do? Is it going to stop what happened in Connecticut from happening again, No. There will always be guns available somewhere to buy without registration. There are in fact some states that prohibit any type of gun registration. This whole thing is just blown out of proportion.

The government would never do anything without thinking about it first..:laughing:...:laughing:..

 

[Ric]

The government would never do anything without thinking about it first..:laughing:...:laughing:..

Ya know what is really funny to me is what they are doing in Conn making people register firearms is a Felony here in Florida.

 

[Mike88se]

Wrong about what? Not that I've never been wrong lol.
I was a self described car nut at one time. Just means you're seriously into it. I see our point thought. There are some gun nuts that I'd consider nuts and wouldn't want to hang out with.
I think I'm right about more than one thing but the cops thing is scary. NOLA cops make me uncomfortable. The only LEA that comes close as far as corruption and loose cannons would be Los Angeles.
And yes the Homeland security agency has fitted out a lot of LEAs with high tech equipment they probably don't need and shouldn't have. They will have drones soon if they don't already.
The biggest disagreement I see here is that some of you believe the Federal government is getting ready to confiscate guns, declare martial law, and become communist.
You're right about one thing You won't change my mind on that. That is not going to happen. The people who really call the shots are capitalists. They would never cut their own throats by turning the US communist. You're not thinking this through.

53-202c, and 53-202e say you're wrong.And, your use of the term "gun nut" means I can't change your mind.
You are correct about one thing, though. Local police departments are becoming more militarized,

 

[RobertBrown]

Wrong about what? Not that I've never been wrong lol.
I was a self described car nut at one time. Just means you're seriously into it. I see our point thought. There are some gun nuts that I'd consider nuts and wouldn't want to hang out with.
I think I'm right about more than one thing but the cops thing is scary. NOLA cops make me uncomfortable. The only LEA that comes close as far as corruption and loose cannons would be Los Angeles.
And yes the Homeland security agency has fitted out a lot of LEAs with high tech equipment they probably don't need and shouldn't have. They will have drones soon if they don't already.
The biggest disagreement I see here is that some of you believe the Federal government is getting ready to confiscate guns, declare martial law, and become communist.
You're right about one thing You won't change my mind on that. That is not going to happen. The people who really call the shots are capitalists. They would never cut their own throats by turning the US communist. You're not thinking this through.

I don't recall anybody mentioning communism, nazi's yes.
If you think communism is the concern, your not thinking this through. Freedom is what the issue is here. Nobody cares how many cars you have, the more the better. Cars help the economy, they require insurance, registration, tags...you get the picture. You have already been inoculated, part of the collective....with your car.
I'm guessing you don't give a **** about guns because you don't have one. Multiply 48 x 30,000 real quick. Soon it will be 48$ a year. Why not a 148$ a year?
bend over! now how do you like it?

 

[Mike88se]

If you don't recall anybody mentioning communism then you need to go back and reread the thread. Several people think communists are one step away from taking over.
You're right... I don't give a **** about guns. I don't care if you own one though. Or a hundred. You gotta pay to play.
Freedom is not an issue here. You're free to own as many guns as you can afford. You're just helping reinforce my point.
Cars are the economy. Vehicles and the fuel that is needed to run them. So yeah they are very important. Why then should I pay tax, registration (which is tax), inspections yearly, and insurance... and have gun owners pay nothing and no need for registration? Like they say... freedom ain't free. The reason gun registration makes sense is keeping track. There's a paper trail. The theory is that eventually all guns used in crimes could be tracked back. Make it harder for criminals to acquire guns. It won't stop crime but it will help. It wouldn't help much now because there are too many guns out there that aren't registered and don't have a paper trail. It probably seems like I want to take more freedom away but I'd make it harder to not only buy a gun... I'd make it harder to drive and buy a car. There are too many people out there who aren't sensible enough or responsible enough to own a gun or drive a car.
And we're all part of a collective. If we want good roads, streets, bridges, police, firemen, EMTs, military, parks, fancy sports stadiums, schools, libraries etc. Collectively we pay for those things. Is that socialism? I don't feel overtaxed onincome or what I buy. The US has one of the lowest tax rates in the world. Hell, there are some large corporations that have a negative effective tax rate.

I don't recall anybody mentioning communism, nazi's yes.
If you think communism is the concern, your not thinking this through. Freedom is what the issue is here. Nobody cares how many cars you have, the more the better. Cars help the economy, they require insurance, registration, tags...you get the picture. You have already been inoculated, part of the collective....with your car.
I'm guessing you don't give a **** about guns because you don't have one. Multiply 48 x 30,000 real quick. Soon it will be 48$ a year. Why not a 148$ a year?
bend over! now how do you like it?