Price of mowers vs Benefits

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For 600sq ft. a good quality push type reel mower is perfect. I like the great cut quality of a reel mower on a manicured lawn. All it takes is initiative and a good regimen of frequent mowing to get a great appearance. It has been a long time since I used one but I would prefer it over a small gas rotary mower for 600sq ft.
 

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That's when you would get a BATTERY powered rider... they are out there today...
John Deere had them back in the 70's ... The JD Electric 90. Great machines and you could run them quite a long while before you needed to plug in for an over night charge... Today there are electric ZTR's... Batteries they work great... :smile:KennyV

Question if this battery stuff is so great why don't you see it in use, or people using the stuff. It really amazes me all the talk about battery operated hedgers, weed trimmers, edgers and mowers but I never see anyone using the stuff.View attachment 820

You say Today there are electric ZTR's and the Batteries and they work great, personally I don't think Up To 80 Minutes run time on a charge is so great and probably if you run into heavier grass you'll most likely cut that time down considerable. I don't see any benefit in Battery operated lawn equipment. :thumbdown:
 

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Question if this battery stuff is so great why don't you see it in use, or people using the stuff. It really amazes me all the talk about battery operated hedgers, weed trimmers, edgers and mowers but I never see anyone using the stuff.View attachment 820

You say Today there are electric ZTR's and the Batteries and they work great, personally I don't think Up To 80 Minutes run time on a charge is so great and probably if you run into heavier grass you'll most likely cut that time down considerable. I don't see any benefit in Battery operated lawn equipment. :thumbdown:

I agree,
I have sooooo many battery powered hand tools with worthless battery packs that I wan't to revolt against buying more of these things. In the last couple of years I have reverted back to good quality hand tools either manual or corded depending on the tool.

Anyone who works with tools all day to make a living knows cheap tools are more costly to use than good tools. The vast majority of my tools are good, if they weren't I couldn't make enough of a profit to buy more of them.:wink:

Some people think everything has to be self powered, I don't feel this way. Sometimes a little exercise is good for the body and is the simplest way to work the job. With only 600sft of lawn any of us can mow that before you get the gas mower fueled up and ready to work.
 

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Question if this battery stuff is so great why don't you see it in use, or people using the stuff.
It really amazes me all the talk about battery operated hedgers, weed trimmers, edgers and mowers but I never see anyone using the stuff.


You say Today there are electric ZTR's and the Batteries and they work great, personally I don't think Up To 80 Minutes run time on a charge is so great and probably if you run into heavier grass you'll most likely cut that time down considerable. I don't see any benefit in Battery operated lawn equipment.

Using a Zeon you can mow over an acre in that 80 minuets... That will just about take care of the average large lawn...

It will completely charge over night and be ready to get another acre + if you have an even LARGER yard...

As to benefits...
# Green friendly - zero emissions
# Nearly zero maintenance - just unplug and mow!
# Clean and neat - no belts, filters, fluids, etc.
# No engine noise - much quieter than gasoline-powered equipment!
# Compact design - mow in tighter spaces to increase productivity
# Very inexpensive to operate - electricity is cheaper and prices fluctuate less

I'm not saying that an electric ZTR is for every yard... But there are those just right sized yards that it is PERFECT for... A very high quality, easy to operate, quiet, and having looked at them, LONG lasting mower that is MANY notches above the average high end residential mower... :smile:KennyV
 

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Anyone who works with tools all day to make a living knows cheap tools are more costly to use than good tools.

Thats right ... and anyone that works all day with cordless power tools, knows that you are not going to get by with a cheep battery operated tool, they will cost many times what a corded, quality tool will cost.

Cordless is needed in some situations, it's handy in some and possibly just convenient in others... but you are never going to be happy using a low end power tool corded or cordless.... :smile:KennyV
 

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Using a Zeon you can mow over an acre in that 80 minuets... That will just about take care of the average large lawn...

It will completely charge over night and be ready to get another acre + if you have an even LARGER yard...

As to benefits...
# Green friendly - zero emissions
# Nearly zero maintenance - just unplug and mow!
# Clean and neat - no belts, filters, fluids, etc.
# No engine noise - much quieter than gasoline-powered equipment!
# Compact design - mow in tighter spaces to increase productivity
# Very inexpensive to operate - electricity is cheaper and prices fluctuate less

I'm not saying that an electric ZTR is for every yard... But there are those just right sized yards that it is PERFECT for... A very high quality, easy to operate, quiet, and having looked at them, LONG lasting mower that is MANY notches above the average high end residential mower... :smile:KennyV

If you read the claims that Hustler is making they say UP TO 80 Minutes which tells me that run time will or is going to depend on the factors involved in usage like the type of grass you're cutting, height of the lawn, are there hills or slopes involved and so on. Combining all those factors can cut your run time and battery consumption drastically, and even with all the benefits described, I don't know if it will out weigh the price tag it's going to carry.

The other big drawback to battery operated equipment of most any kind is the cost of replacing the battery's and the battery's for that Hustler Zeon will not be cheap.


A very high quality, easy to operate, quiet, and having looked at them, LONG lasting mower that is MANY notches above the average high end residential mower... :smile:

KennyV
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If you have a dealer near ... try one out ... you are going to find that you will get MORE than they list.
Hustler has always used very conservative ratings.

These mowers are designed to LAST a long time... priced reasonable for the life expectancy.
If I was in the market for a mower, this is what I would be getting. (and I mow considerably MORE than 3 acres).
I enjoy my diesel with a cab ZTR mower & it is going to easily last another 12 years +... So it's going to be a long while before I am buying a replacement.

Electric mowers WILL surprise you:thumbsup:, try one ... :smile:KennyV
 

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If you have a dealer near ... try one out ... you are going to find that you will get MORE than they list.
Hustler has always used very conservative ratings.

These mowers are designed to LAST a long time... priced reasonable for the life expectancy.
If I was in the market for a mower, this is what I would be getting. (and I mow considerably MORE than 3 acres).
I enjoy my diesel with a cab ZTR mower & it is going to easily last another 12 years +... So it's going to be a long while before I am buying a replacement.

Electric mowers WILL surprise you:thumbsup:, try one ... :smile:KennyV



As I asked before if this battery stuff is so great why don't you see it in use, or people using the stuff. I'm not a fan of anything battery operated, hedgers, weed trimmers, edgers or mowers when it comes to lawn-care.
John Deere, Cub Cadet and several others all tried there hand at Battery operated mowers and all were dropped and Hustler Zeon will be no different along with Cub Cadets residential propane S- series. These type mowers are all over rated and way over priced.
 

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Thats right ... and anyone that works all day with cordless power tools, knows that you are not going to get by with a cheep battery operated tool, they will cost many times what a corded, quality tool will cost.

Cordless is needed in some situations, it's handy in some and possibly just convenient in others... but you are never going to be happy using a low end power tool corded or cordless.... :smile:KennyV




Kenny,
I have always purchased good brands of corded and battery tools such as Porter Cable, Miwaukee and Black and Decker Professiional. Again, I have had much better service from corded tools. I should add that in Porter Cable and Milwaukee cordless tools I have over 50 of these tools.

I should say that my best cordless tools are the 4520 cab, 110tlb cab and X749, none of which I consider cheep (cheap) tools.
 

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Hi KennyV, I have question about this . . .
# Nearly zero maintenance - just unplug and mow!

Does this mean it's plugged the whole time before and after using? I am curious about the battery. Maybe there are better batteries these days. But the quality of batteries I know go down very fast, especially when plugged for a long time.
 
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