5 acres, I could not imagine mowing it without an engine and I don't have a cord long enough to mow all that land!
Guys, mowers are expensive where I am. But if the benefits outweigh the cost, I see no reason for shrinking from the investment.
Our lawn may be not as big as yours. Mine is about 600 square feet. But even if I have twice of thrice that, I still find it hard to justify a motorized mower in the face of a much cheaper manual reel mower. Should I be compelled to get a rotating blade, I would most likely opt for wired electric mowers.
Maybe I'm*just missing something. Why do you choose motorized mowers?
That's when you would get a BATTERY powered rider... they are out there today...
John Deere had them back in the 70's ... The JD Electric 90. Great machines and you could run them quite a long while before you needed to plug in for an over night charge... Today there are electric ZTR's... Batteries they work great... :smile:KennyV
Question if this battery stuff is so great why don't you see it in use, or people using the stuff. It really amazes me all the talk about battery operated hedgers, weed trimmers, edgers and mowers but I never see anyone using the stuff.View attachment 820
You say Today there are electric ZTR's and the Batteries and they work great, personally I don't think Up To 80 Minutes run time on a charge is so great and probably if you run into heavier grass you'll most likely cut that time down considerable. I don't see any benefit in Battery operated lawn equipment. :thumbdown:
Question if this battery stuff is so great why don't you see it in use, or people using the stuff.
It really amazes me all the talk about battery operated hedgers, weed trimmers, edgers and mowers but I never see anyone using the stuff.
You say Today there are electric ZTR's and the Batteries and they work great, personally I don't think Up To 80 Minutes run time on a charge is so great and probably if you run into heavier grass you'll most likely cut that time down considerable. I don't see any benefit in Battery operated lawn equipment.
Anyone who works with tools all day to make a living knows cheap tools are more costly to use than good tools.
Using a Zeon you can mow over an acre in that 80 minuets... That will just about take care of the average large lawn...
It will completely charge over night and be ready to get another acre + if you have an even LARGER yard...
As to benefits...
# Green friendly - zero emissions
# Nearly zero maintenance - just unplug and mow!
# Clean and neat - no belts, filters, fluids, etc.
# No engine noise - much quieter than gasoline-powered equipment!
# Compact design - mow in tighter spaces to increase productivity
# Very inexpensive to operate - electricity is cheaper and prices fluctuate less
I'm not saying that an electric ZTR is for every yard... But there are those just right sized yards that it is PERFECT for... A very high quality, easy to operate, quiet, and having looked at them, LONG lasting mower that is MANY notches above the average high end residential mower... :smile:KennyV
A very high quality, easy to operate, quiet, and having looked at them, LONG lasting mower that is MANY notches above the average high end residential mower... :smile:
KennyV
If you have a dealer near ... try one out ... you are going to find that you will get MORE than they list.
Hustler has always used very conservative ratings.
These mowers are designed to LAST a long time... priced reasonable for the life expectancy.
If I was in the market for a mower, this is what I would be getting. (and I mow considerably MORE than 3 acres).
I enjoy my diesel with a cab ZTR mower & it is going to easily last another 12 years +... So it's going to be a long while before I am buying a replacement.
Electric mowers WILL surprise you:thumbsup:, try one ... :smile:KennyV
Thats right ... and anyone that works all day with cordless power tools, knows that you are not going to get by with a cheep battery operated tool, they will cost many times what a corded, quality tool will cost.
Cordless is needed in some situations, it's handy in some and possibly just convenient in others... but you are never going to be happy using a low end power tool corded or cordless.... :smile:KennyV
# Nearly zero maintenance - just unplug and mow!
Hi KennyV, I have question about this . . .
But the quality of batteries I know go down very fast, especially when plugged for a long time.
Hi KennyV, I have question about this . . .
Does this mean it's plugged the whole time before and after using? I am curious about the battery. Maybe there are better batteries these days. But the quality of batteries I know go down very fast, especially when plugged for a long time.
It Means you plug in the batteries to bring them to full capacities or charge to mow and after use you have to recharge again. The problem with batteries is that they will only take so many charges before they lose the ability to hold a charge for any length of time. The Hustler Zeon I believe uses a 46 volt system and the batteries are a deep cycle battery like boat batteries and just like any battery they won't last forever and replacement isn't cheap.
Don't get me wrong, battery operated stuff has a place in some hand tools and such and it's meant for occasional use, but to have an 7 to 9 thousand dollar investment in a battery operated mower for around the house for the occasional use to me is senseless.
"It Means you plug in the batteries to bring them to full capacities or charge to mow and after use you have to recharge again." ...Really? :laughing:
"The problem with batteries is that they will only take so many charges before they lose the ability to hold a charge for any length of time." Another REALLY?
"Just like any battery they won't last forever and replacement isn't cheap." 'they wont last forever'... REALLY? :laughing:
"The Hustler Zeon I believe uses a 46 volt system" Oh... REALLY??
"battery operated stuff has a place in some hand tools and such and it's meant for occasional use" One more, REALLY? (what percent of Scissor are battery operated? And all the other industrial applications that are predominantly battery operated? ...?
"an 7 to 9 thousand dollar investment in a battery operated mower for around the house for the occasional use to me is senseless." ARE you possibly wrong on the price... also:laughing:?
Like I suggested earlier... you MAY want to GO LOOK AT one of these, try it out... Oh and get operational costs over any period of time.. :laughing::laughing:
Well Ric...
You could check some of the things you stated as fact.
4 x 12 volts is not 46 volts :biggrin:
You must be using Ric math on the price also... "7 to 9 thousand dollar investment"
I have never shopped price at "pop mechanics"
I do know if you check a dealer... The "list price" is less than 7k ... I do not know very many folks that pay list... but I see you are ok with making it sound like 7 to 9 thousand...? :biggrin:
And operational costs ... actual operational costs, you might want to plug in some real #'s there also... :biggrin:
I realize you want to make this mower look bad:confused2:... I am simply suggesting that you actually LOOK at one.
and the actual stats... :smile:KennyV
LOOK at one. I don't want to look at one,
I wouldn't waste my time.
( if you keep guessing at the price, you will eventually get closer.)
YOU should not waste YOUR time...
These grapes are much too sour for you!
:smile:KennyV
Ric...
I believe if you would have just read what I said about 5 posts back... "The "list price" is less than 7k ... I do not know very many folks that pay list... but I see you are ok with making it sound like 7 to 9 thousand...?"
"YOU should not waste YOUR time...
These grapes are much too sour for you!"
I do know the manufacturers advertised LIST price... I am going to guess here that you may be a clever enough fellow not to pay list price on equipment, I could be wrong there. I don't know many more polite ways to put that.
:biggrin:KennyV
PS.
I would once again suggest that you actually look at one, perhaps try it out. You may discover something that you overlooked when you formed all your 'opinions' with your "I don't want to look at one" statement.
Having said this... I see it is all getting very repetitious and it is the end of the year... so I will leave this in the uncut lawns of 2010... I will move into 2011 with nothing but :smile::smile::smile: for this new year.
I hold the view that if you value quality then go for something that is expensive, and reasonably so for that matter. I believe in investing in something that will benefit me in the long run.
.... It'll cost less in the long run.