Oil issue ..

[puckbag]

Lets not go to the worst case just yet...
You didn't say...
1. How low was it before you added?
2. After realizing that you put in 2cycle oil, (but before you drained it), how full was it?
3. When you took the spark plug out, did it look to have oil on it?
4. When you pulled the starter rope, with the spark plug out, & the correct amount of engine oil, Did it blow any excess oil out of the empty spark plug hole?

What were the results of the above 4 ? .... This is not a disaster... yet.

We can systematically determine why it stopped, but first lets see where we are now... :smile:KennyV

My plan of attack should be as follows? :

1. Drain oil
2. Refill with proper oil and amount
3. Pull out spark plug
4. Give it a few pulls and determine if any oil is coming out of the hole

 

[jmurray01]

Yep, including checking the spark plug.

 

[KennyV]

My plan of attack should be as follows? :

1. Drain oil
2. Refill with proper oil and amount
3. Pull out spark plug
4. Give it a few pulls and determine if any oil is coming out of the hole

Yes but... I am still curious as to exactly how low the oil level was to begin with...
a. was it closer to empty? or closer to full?
b. How much 2cycle oil did you put in? Did you just bring it to full? OR was it over full?
:smile:KennyV

 

[puckbag]

Yes but... I am still curious as to exactly how low the oil level was to begin with...
a. was it closer to empty? or closer to full?
b. How much 2cycle oil did you put in? Did you just bring it to full? OR was it over full?
:smile:KennyV

The oil was empty..a tinybit on the bottom of the dipstick, so I filled it with 16 oz like the manual says.

 

[jmurray01]

The oil was empty..a tinybit on the bottom of the dipstick, so I filled it with 16 oz like the manual says.

Oh... It is beginning to look like the piston rings may have worn down...

 

[KennyV]

I know this must seem unimportant... but I'll ask anyway..
After adding 16oz of oil... was it then full OR overfull? :smile:KennyV

If it was over full, was it over full by a lot?

 

[puckbag]

It was full, not over full. I have fresh oil and a new spark plug but I'm still at work for a few more hours. I will let you guys know the results later tonight. Once again thanks for all your help. Judging by your reactions its not looking too good for my mower lol.

 

[KennyV]

Your right... It is not looking good at this point.
The reason I say that is, If the engine holds only 16oz of oil & you put in 16oz of oil... That addition did NOT overfill the crankcase, So there must have been no oil in it at the time it quit running... The dipstick may have had a build up drop at the bottom, but that was not from the oil level.

If the above is correct then, I think you need to put a compression gauge into the spark plug hole, I suspect, like jmurray01 stated, your rings may well be compromised & you may have little or no compression. KennyV

 

[puckbag]

So....I first went out and drained the oil..well there was way more than 16 oz of oil in there..more like 25 oz :frown: I filled it with fresh oil and then pulled out the spark plug. I will attach the picture of the spark plug..don't think its good. The problem is that the gentlemen at the store gave me the wrong spark plug as you will also see in the pics. Next move?

Original plug

Wrong one I was given

Side by side

 

[KennyV]

Thanks for the p[pictures... Don't see what # the plug is but according to the manual.
ON page 12...
The standard spark plug for models XT-7 and XTR-7 is a Champion RC12YC (Kohler part number 12 132 02-S). Equivalent, alternative brand plugs can also be used.

On page 13 it gives your oil (refill) capacity as 20 to 22 oz.

This is the Manual for your engine: http://www.kohlerengines.com/onlinecatalog/pdf/14_590_02_0109_eng.pdf

:smile:KennyV