Laws Governing Professional Lawn Maintenance Businesses

[Old Goat]

I took that gay *** rops off. Liberals can shove it up there crybaby ***!!
And no I won't die from it. I'm not a stupid *** lib that can't ride a ztr!!

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(( racing is the only sport that you need two balls ))

So, your post was not in reference to the one above it?

 

[Carscw]

So, your post was not in reference to the one above it?

Yes it was. But still don't understand your comment towards me.

(( racing is the only sport that you need two balls ))

 

[Ric]

I see that this whole thread is about basically one accident that someone died in. It would be interesting how many people actually have been killed or severely injured in roll over accidents per year.

I might be a fatality tomorrow but I honestly have never heard of one in our area. I see people on here talk about how stupid some people are. I personally have cut some hills on a zero turn that we're very steep. I have seen numerous others that have as we'll. I also do not know of a commercial operator in our area that runs with a ROP in the up position. I would not consider myself 10' tall nor bullet proof. I am 56 years old however and have operated numerous different pieces of equipment for basically my entire life with no serious injuries. Most equipment has a fine line as to stability when the envelope is pushed. Learning the feel of the machine and learning it's capabilities are what keeps an operator safe. One of the key things one needs to learn when working terrain that is rough is to slow down. I know from experience that a zero turn is pretty stable on some pretty steep inclines if the operator slows down and takes note of what is happening.

I said it before and I say it again I personally had rather have the seat safety switch working and not be tied to a mower on the event of a roll over. The safety switch will shut it down almost instantly. There is always rough terrain to cut.

As for ROPs many times they will get you hung up in trees and bushes and hurt you as well and if you are tied to the mower with a seat belt you have no where to move.

Yeah this whole thread is about an accident in which someone died, a roll over accident. A rollover accident that was 9 times out of 10 caused by the operator himself by operating the mower in conditions that it the mower and operator shouldn't have been in and probably could have been avoided if the individual would have

( Read The Freaking Manual) just for clarification. The thing is and I can't believe I'm agreeing with Carscw but there are just some people who shouldn't be allowed to run a mower of any kind. If you want to avoid these type of things, accidents and Lawsuits it will not be done by the Lawn police, if your interested in making new laws start at the dealers and make a law that requires a sit down with an instructional video on the correct way to operate the mower of choice when purchased, The do's and Do nots of a ZTR, a Stander, Lawn and garden Tractor and so on as well as driving the mower of choice in the lot before being sold. Covering ones butt starts at the manufacturer and the manual they provide and should continue with the dealer and then the operator and using common sense, if all that is neglected.......... STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.

 

[Old Goat]

Yes it was. But still don't understand your comment towards me.

(( racing is the only sport that you need two balls ))

I am NOT surprized!

Undoubtedly you never wore a uniform of these United States military.
I will go ahead and put you on my ignore list. I recommend you do the same for me!

 

[Carscw]

I am NOT surprized!

Undoubtedly you never wore a uniform of these United States military.
I will go ahead and put you on my ignore list. I recommend you do the same for me!

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First off are you American turfs dad?

He talks crazy about our government and I post a pic saying the more he talks the more it makes me want to push him down the stairs. And then you start talking crazy.
How is the pic I posted say anything bad about this country?

(( racing is the only sport that you need two balls ))

 

[djdicetn]

So, your post was not in reference to the one above it?

Old Goat/Casrcw,

Soooooo...did that ojectionable post mean that user American turf doesn't like me for even bringing this controversial subject up???????:0(

 

[djdicetn]

Yeah this whole thread is about an accident in which someone died, a roll over accident. A rollover accident that was 9 times out of 10 caused by the operator himself by operating the mower in conditions that it the mower and operator shouldn't have been in and probably been avoided if the individual would have

( Read The Freaking Manual) just for clarification. The thing is and I can't believe I'm agreeing with Carscw but there are just some people who shouldn't be allowed to run a mower of any kind. If you want to avoid these type of things, accidents and Lawsuits it will not be done by the Lawn police, if your interested in making new laws start at the dealers and make a law that requires a sit down with an instructional video on the correct way to operate the mower of choice when purchased, The do's and Don't of a ZTR, a Stander, Lawn and garden Tractor and so on as well as driving the mower of choice in the lot before being sold. Covering ones butt starts at the manufacturer and the manual they provide and should continue with the dealer and then the operator and using common sense, if all that is neglected.......... STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.

Now THAT IS the kind of opinion and reasons why/why not I was looking for!!!!!! Thanks ric(and I tend to agree that "liability" really rests more at the manufacturer and dealer level than at the operator level). What a consumer(Commercially or not) does with any machine(cars, zero turn mowers, etc., etc.) is at their discretion after being diligently advised and notified of appropriate operation of that machine).

 

[Ric]

Yeah this whole thread is about an accident in which someone died, a roll over accident. A rollover accident that was 9 times out of 10 caused the operator himself by operating the mower in conditions that it the mower and operator shouldn't have been in and probably could have been avoided if the individual would have

( Read The Freaking Manual) just for clarification. The thing is and I can't believe I'm agreeing with Carscw but there are just some people who shouldn't be allowed to run a mower of any kind. If you want to avoid these type of things, accidents and Lawsuits it will not be done by the Lawn police, if your interested in making new laws start at the dealers and make a law that requires a sit down with an instructional video on the correct way to operate the mower of choice when purchased, The do's and Do nots of a ZTR, a Stander, Lawn and garden Tractor and so on as well as driving the mower of choice in the lot before being sold. Covering ones butt starts at the manufacturer and the manual they provide and should continue with the dealer and then the operator and using common sense, if all that is neglected.......... STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.

Now THAT IS the kind of opinion and reasons why/why not I was looking for!!!!!! Thanks ric(and I tend to agree that "liability" really rests more at the manufacturer and dealer level than at the operator level). What a consumer(Commercially or not) does with any machine(cars, zero turn mowers, etc., etc.) is at their discretion after being diligently advised and notified of appropriate operation of that machine).

I agree the "liability" really rests more at the manufacturer and these manuals are how they cover there behinds and I think steps should be taken by dealers to further the education of the consumer to cover there behinds as well. Instructional videos have been around for years, there's no secret there and if they don't do any better I'd like to see a DVD/CD of operational practices of any piece equipment go with the manual as part of the purchase.

 

[Carscw]

Old Goat/Casrcw,

Soooooo...did that ojectionable post mean that user American turf doesn't like me for even bringing this controversial subject up???????:0(

Yes he don't like that you brought this up. And old goat don't like me because I said to push turf down the stairs

(( racing is the only sport that you need two balls ))

 

[Ric]

Yes he don't like that you brought this up. And old goat don't like me because I said to push turf down the stairs

(( racing is the only sport that you need two balls ))

You guys need to learn to fight nice. I mean Really it's a hypothetical question.