Keeps running but won't start when pulling the cord.

upupandaway

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 3, 2015
Threads
36
Messages
614
It will start if I spray carb cleaner in the carb and pull the cord. And, it will continue to run fine until I turn it off.
I
JC, If u take out the air filter do u see a brass "flap"(the choke) closed or is it open? I ask because pictures of the model that come up(http://newhavenpower.com/Toro20333.html) have the briggs engine which might have the auto choke that is instead stuck open making it not choke to start normally thus your problem.
 

BlufftonJim

Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2020
Threads
1
Messages
17
Sometimes it looks like the bolt gasket is leaking, but it is really the bowl gasket. Put a light coat of grease on the gasket before installing to make sure it slides on smoothly.

Hello Rivet! I will give that a try.
I
JC, If u take out the air filter do u see a brass "flap"(the choke) closed or is it open? I ask because pictures of the model that come up(http://newhavenpower.com/Toro20333.html) have the briggs engine which might have the auto choke that is instead stuck open making it not choke to start normally thus your problem.

I will check that. I also need to opinions on the air vane spring. I never found one. Is it missing, or does this engine have one?
 

BlufftonJim

Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2020
Threads
1
Messages
17
I removed the carb, added a little grease to the bowl, added the bowl bolt, reinstalled the carb, and...it still leaked. But, I cranked the bolt a little more tight, and it stopped! The air vane spring did not come. Delivery was delayed until tomorrow.
 

BlufftonJim

Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2020
Threads
1
Messages
17
The air vane spring arrived today. I put in on and that did not fix the issue. When this began, I could start the mower with carb cleaner sprayed in the carb, and it would keep running, but would not start pulling the rope, even after the engine was warm.

Now, the carb is completely rebuilt, new spark plug, and will still only start with help from carb cleaner, but now will NOT keep running.

Time to dump this thing?
 

dougand3

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2012
Threads
12
Messages
448
Is this what you installed? On the far right is the silver tstat lever inside the U of the air vane. The front of the lever should be inside the front set of 2 lines and side set of 2 lines. (This one is off - too far back.) On the left is the air vane spring.

IMG_20200404_153027966.jpg
 

BlufftonJim

Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2020
Threads
1
Messages
17
This picture shows what I installed an what it looks like now.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_1213 - smaller.jpg
    IMG_1213 - smaller.jpg
    376.8 KB · Views: 5

TylerFrankel1

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 7, 2020
Threads
16
Messages
124
Gas leaks are kinda tricky sometimes because of the way it flows, in my experience, gas leaking from anything from the fuel line to the needle and seat to the upper or lower o-ring/seal all look similar. If the bowl nut washer is leaking and you got a new one from the kit, try putting the old one back lol.
 

BlufftonJim

Member
Joined
Apr 4, 2020
Threads
1
Messages
17
Gas leaks are kinda tricky sometimes because of the way it flows, in my experience, gas leaking from anything from the fuel line to the needle and seat to the upper or lower o-ring/seal all look similar. If the bowl nut washer is leaking and you got a new one from the kit, try putting the old one back lol.

Oh, I stopped the gas leak. Then I received the air vane spring, put it on, and same problem, except it won't even keep running now.
 

dougand3

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 10, 2012
Threads
12
Messages
448
You need to pull the blower housing and inspect the silver Tstat wand. The location inside the air vane U is important. Youtube video -
 

TylerFrankel1

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 7, 2020
Threads
16
Messages
124
Follow along with this video you might find it quite helpful. Taryl uses made up words sometimes but this video is very thorough and the mower he is repairing had a similar issue to yours.
 
Top