John Deere Or Cub Cadet?

Carscw

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Cub cadet all the way.
Much better mower for the money.

Just because you buy the john Deere at a dealer and not at lowes does not make it a better mower. It's the same mower made by the same people on the same place.

As far as dealer support. You are buying one mower they don't care about you. And just want to over charge you for extras.

When it comes to riding mowers cub cadet is the way to go. They give a very good cut. Especially when the grass is wet.
John Deere riding mower are the bottom feeders.
The pulley set up for the blades really hurts the mower. Does very poorly in thick grass.
 

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If you buy a mower from a dealer and in 3 weeks you do not like it then to bad it's yours.

Buy one at lowes or tractor supply you can return within 30 days if you do not like it.

As far as doing warranty work. I would bring it to a small engine shop before I took it to a dealer.
 

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Extended warranties are just another way to relieve tou of some more cash unless you are talking about 5 years.

As for the engines, Courage engines are the lowest quality Kohler, ie it's budget line.
I have never had any problems with courages that were not the owners fault.
I like working on them as they have a lot of nice touches, like a deeper sump , hang down ( no mess ) oil filter and top closure so you can pull down the motor in the mower.

OTOH the Briggs fitted to JD's is generally the top shelf B & S engine.
If it is branded JD then it is built to horizontal crank specks and a lot better than youe standard B & S engine.

The build quality on Cubs seems to be better than the build quality of the 100 series JD which is their lowest price, entry level line.
The 42" "edge" decks tend to fracture along the weld lines of the hangers brackets and are also very prone to bending in far enough for the deck foul on the blades when you run into some thing solid.

From your property description this probably won't be a problem but it is what I have observed as a repairer.

I recommend buying JD's to a lot of people around here principally because they are better made than most of the offerings and have an excellent parts back up & dealer network who do not skin you alive over parts.
MTD belt $ 147 , Ayp belt $ 75 , JD belt $ 45.
We have no Cub Cadet agent in Sydney ( 5,000,000 people ) only MTD agents who can get them in if you want, If we did I would recommend Cubs over Deeres but I have not seen your models yet and most likley won't see one for a very long time.
 

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As far as doing warranty work. I would bring it to a small engine shop before I took it to a dealer.

What sure sounds good but it wouldn't work. Warranty work is paid by the factory to dealers only. I have worked in dealer shops for over 20 years and know how it works.
 

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What sure sounds good but it wouldn't work. Warranty work is paid by the factory to dealers only. I have worked in dealer shops for over 20 years and know how it works.

Small shop close to me is a authorized cub cadet shop and does warranty work. They don't sell new mowers.

I try and not use big dealers.
I rather go to the small shop that appreciates my business.
 

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OH WHAT A DIFFERENCE A DEALER MAKES!!!

I feel like a woman purchasing a handbag. "I'm going shopping for a new handbag and I know exactly what I want. Oh my, look at the new designs! I like this one, no, I like this one, OK, I'm going to buy this one, no, I've changed my mind and I want this one."

Anyway, long story short:

I spent some time with both the JD and CC dealers today. Both dealers are appx. ten miles from my home and within two miles of each other on the same road. I first went to the CC dealer. Upon informing him of which model I wanted, which was the XT2 LX46, he immediately tried to sell me the more expensive XT3 model and several attachments. I declined. He then informed me that the Kawasaki engines in the XT2 LX46 were being replaced with Kohlers because Kawasaki couldn't keep up with the CC production demand. Quite frankly, I think that's BS. Personally, I think the real reason is that CC wants to increase the profit level on this particular model. I just don't see a situation where Kawasaki can't meet demand. He also seemed to be more concerned with who was coming in the front door and what another salesman was telling a customer than he was with me. He informed me that there would be a $50.00 delivery charge for a curb dropoff, no checking that everything was assembled and adjusted properly and no instructions on the operation of the lawn tractor. The dealer has a full service and parts department. Bottom line? This dealer is more interested in sales than what the customer wants or needs. I made the decision right then and there to scratch him off my list and to proceed to the JD dealer. In all fairness, I think that there are certainly CC dealers out there who would be better than this one and care more about the customer than sales figures but the other CC dealers are substantially farther from my home.

I told the JD dealer that I was interested in four models, the D130, D140, D155 and S240 Sport. The D155 and S240 sport are new models for 2015. I informed him that I would be mowing between one half and three fourths of an acre with no pulling logs or rocks in a trailer and no snow plowing or blowing. He immediately informed me that the D130, which comes with a B&S 22HP V-Twin engine is all I need for the size of my lawn. We discussed attachments and mulching blades/kits only after I inquired about them. The D130 has a two blade deck, manual PTO and a 42 inch cut. I believe it also has the standard seat. A front bumper is included. It retails for $1899. The D140 has the same B&S engine but comes with a three blade deck, an electronically engaged PTO, a 48 inch cut and a better, high-back seat. It retails for $1999. A front bumper is not included with the D140 and sells for $79. The D155 has a 24HP B&S ELS V-Twin, a three blade deck, electronic PTO and a 48 inch cut. It retails for $2199. The S240 sport is a very nice lawn tractor. The dealer tells me that the S240 Sport is an upgrade from the 100 Series and comes with a three years or 250 hours warranty, a Kawasaki 18 HP V-Twin engine, electronic PTO, two blade deck, a 42 inch cut and an open bottom, high-back seat. It retails for $2499.

The dealer informed me that the lawn tractor would be delivered free of charge, all specs would be checked, any needed adjustments made, instructions in the use of it would be given and all questions answered. Any pickup and delivery during and after the warranty period would be $50 per pickup and delivery back to the house. He made no effort to steer me to a more expensive model, did not attempt to sell me any attachments and informed me that the standard blade was an enhanced blade that would do a good job of mulching the grass if I decided to add the mulching cover, which can be purchased as a stand alone product or with better mulching blades. The mulching cover is $27.98 or $33.50, depending on the width of the cut. He also has dedicated mulching blades for around $17/18 each. Bottom line? The dealer was more interested in my needs and desires than pushing the sale and attempting upgrades. The dealer has a full service and parts department.

So, I've decided that I'll buy either the D140 or the S240 Sport. I just got off the phone with someone in the dealer's service department and he tells me that both decks have ball bearings and grease fittings. However, he stated that if money isn't a problem I should seriously consider the S240 Sport. He tells me that the Kawasaki engine is much better, has more torque, runs quieter and will last longer than the B&S and generally speaking, the S240 is a much better lawn tractor than any of the D Series models. Although he didn't mention it, I would also gain one year and 130 hours with the better warranty (2 years/120 hours versus 3 years/250 hours), have a better seat and get a heavy duty front bumper with it, so that will actually reduce the comparison price by about $200, in effect making a final cost difference between the two models of about $250. The question I have is whether or not a three blade deck is more balanced than a two blade deck, reducing any vibration. I realize that maintaining a three blade deck will be more expensive than a two blade deck but if there's no noticeable vibration reduction the S240 would save me money on maintenance and replacement blades in the long run. It doesn't matter to me if I end up with a 42 inch or 48 inch cut. I know that the D140 uses a T40 transmission and the S240 Sport uses the K46. I'm leaning in the direction of the S240. The S240 Sport is probably as close as I can get to the higher quality X300, which has a stronger frame and a nicer seat, without actually buying the X300.

Thanks again for all your time and assistance and your knowledge based on your prior and current experiences. I appreciate it very much. Sorry about the "long story short". I lied.
 

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OH WHAT A DIFFERENCE A DEALER MAKES!!! I feel like a woman purchasing a handbag. "I'm going shopping for a new handbag and I know exactly what I want. Oh my, look at the new designs! I like this one, no, I like this one, OK, I'm going to buy this one, no, I've changed my mind and I want this one." Anyway, long story short: I spent some time with both the JD and CC dealers today. Both dealers are appx. ten miles from my home and within two miles of each other on the same road. I first went to the CC dealer. Upon informing him of which model I wanted, which was the XT2 LX46, he immediately tried to sell me the more expensive XT3 model and several attachments. I declined. He then informed me that the Kawasaki engines in the XT2 LX46 were being replaced with Kohlers because Kawasaki couldn't keep up with the CC production demand. Quite frankly, I think that's BS. Personally, I think the real reason is that CC wants to increase the profit level on this particular model. I just don't see a situation where Kawasaki can't meet demand. He also seemed to be more concerned with who was coming in the front door and what another salesman was telling a customer than he was with me. He informed me that there would be a $50.00 delivery charge for a curb dropoff, no checking that everything was assembled and adjusted properly and no instructions on the operation of the lawn tractor. The dealer has a full service and parts department. Bottom line? This dealer is more interested in sales than what the customer wants or needs. I made the decision right then and there to scratch him off my list and to proceed to the JD dealer. In all fairness, I think that there are certainly CC dealers out there who would be better than this one and care more about the customer than sales figures but the other CC dealers are substantially farther from my home. I told the JD dealer that I was interested in four models, the D130, D140, D155 and S240 Sport. The D155 and S240 sport are new models for 2015. I informed him that I would be mowing between one half and three fourths of an acre with no pulling logs or rocks in a trailer and no snow plowing or blowing. He immediately informed me that the D130, which comes with a B&S 22HP V-Twin engine is all I need for the size of my lawn. We discussed attachments and mulching blades/kits only after I inquired about them. The D130 has a two blade deck, manual PTO and a 42 inch cut. I believe it also has the standard seat. A front bumper is included. It retails for $1899. The D140 has the same B&S engine but comes with a three blade deck, an electronically engaged PTO, a 48 inch cut and a better, high-back seat. It retails for $1999. A front bumper is not included with the D140 and sells for $79. The D155 has a 24HP B&S ELS V-Twin, a three blade deck, electronic PTO and a 48 inch cut. It retails for $2199. The S240 sport is a very nice lawn tractor. The dealer tells me that the S240 Sport is an upgrade from the 100 Series and comes with a three years or 250 hours warranty, a Kawasaki 18 HP V-Twin engine, electronic PTO, two blade deck, a 42 inch cut and an open bottom, high-back seat. It retails for $2499. The dealer informed me that the lawn tractor would be delivered free of charge, all specs would be checked, any needed adjustments made, instructions in the use of it would be given and all questions answered. Any pickup and delivery during and after the warranty period would be $50 per pickup and delivery back to the house. He made no effort to steer me to a more expensive model, did not attempt to sell me any attachments and informed me that the standard blade was an enhanced blade that would do a good job of mulching the grass if I decided to add the mulching cover, which can be purchased as a stand alone product or with better mulching blades. The mulching cover is $27.98 or $33.50, depending on the width of the cut. He also has dedicated mulching blades for around $17/18 each. Bottom line? The dealer was more interested in my needs and desires than pushing the sale and attempting upgrades. The dealer has a full service and parts department. So, I've decided that I'll buy either the D140 or the S240 Sport. I just got off the phone with someone in the dealer's service department and he tells me that both decks have ball bearings and grease fittings. However, he stated that if money isn't a problem I should seriously consider the S240 Sport. He tells me that the Kawasaki engine is much better, has more torque, runs quieter and will last longer than the B&S and generally speaking, the S240 is a much better lawn tractor than any of the D Series models. Although he didn't mention it, I would also gain one year and 130 hours with the better warranty (2 years/120 hours versus 3 years/250 hours), have a better seat and get a heavy duty front bumper with it, so that will actually reduce the comparison price by about $200, making a final cost difference between the two models of about $250. The question I have is whether or not a three blade deck is more balanced than a two blade deck, reducing any vibration. I realize that maintaining a three blade deck will be more expensive than a two blade deck but if there's no noticeable vibration reduction the S240 would save me money on maintenance and replacement blades in the long run. It doesn't matter to me if I end up with a 42 inch or 48 inch cut. I know that the D140 uses a T40 transmission and the S240 Sport uses the K46. I'm leaning in the direction of the S240. The S240 is probably as close as I can get to the X300, which has a stronger frame and a nicer sear, without actually buying the X300. Thanks again for all your time and assistance and your knowledge based on your prior and current experiences. I appreciate it very much. Sorry about the "long story short". I lied.


Sorry you had to deal with a pos salesman at the cub dealer. I would go back and tell them why I did not buy a mower from them.

I am not a fan of JD but the S240 is a good mower. If you don't mind the 42 inch cut then go that route.

3 blades will vibrate more then 3.
 

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Sorry you had to deal with a pos salesman at the cub dealer. I would go back and tell them why I did not buy a mower from them.

I am not a fan of JD but the S240 is a good mower. If you don't mind the 42 inch cut then go that route.

3 blades will vibrate more then 3.

Thanks for the reply, Carscw, and thanks for the heads up on the vibration question. Two blades and a 42 inch cut are fine with me. I'm fairly certain that I'll go with the S240 as I believe it's a higher quality lawn tractor than the JD 100 Series and the CC X1/X2 models. It's just a personal opinion based on all my research and the assistance provided to me in several discussions. I know that many people will disagree with me.
 

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Thanks for the reply, Carscw, and thanks for the heads up on the vibration question. Two blades and a 42 inch cut are fine with me. I'm fairly certain that I'll go with the S240 as I believe it's a higher quality lawn tractor than the JD 100 Series and the CC X1/X2 models. It's just a personal opinion based on all my research and the assistance provided to me in several discussions. I know that many people will disagree with me.


Here is some nor info.

These guys are hard core Deere guys.

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