You come to a forum that most people come to for help of some sort help with a problem. You on the other hand show up and state how inferior champion plugs are and how they always fail. And then, of course, the ones in your new mower fail. You stated the engine ran rough and the plugs were black. That would indicate a misfire from carbon tracking. Why were the plugs carbon fouled? It is generally caused by either an improper fuel air mixture which you say is not the case or the plugs are not operated in the self cleaning range of approx 1000*F. Which means either the factory installed the wrong heat range plugs or you were not running the engine hard enough to get the plugs to the proper temp. I would love to hear your scientific analysis on why all champion plugs are junk.
You state that people on this forum that service equipment for profit are doing a disservice to their customers if we don't do it the way you think it should be done. That is called arrogance. Oh yeah, i have about 30 things with small engines and i would bet some are as old as you and the all run fine. And most of my customers i have had for years. If the crap plugs and oil i use don't work why do they keep bringing them back every year for annual maint? Like i said, i consider you entertainment. I am bored this morning drinking my coffee an i need some entertainment before i go out and put some more inferior spark plugs and crap dino oil in some poor unsuspecting customer's engine because i just don't care.
Have a nice day?
Hmm, where should I start.
You come to a forum that most people come to for help of some sort help with a problem. You on the other hand show up and state how inferior champion plugs are and how they always fail.
I showed up here looking for information on how to globally disable safety switches on a Cub Cadet so I can verify that's the problem before wasting my time tracking down the specific issue. THAT was my first post. My post with respect to Champion plugs was a solution to a problem. Champion plugs just happened to be the problem that was solved. NGK's still running strong by the way, of course. The reason why one would post things like that is to save folks the time of creating a thread, and enduring some of the various "personalities" on this board, while they wait for a useful response that could show up anywhere from 3 minutes to 3 weeks later. But last I checked, I'm not really obligated to explain myself to you, nor is anyone else. It would seem to me that you need to understand that.
You stated the engine ran rough and the plugs were black. That would indicate a misfire from carbon tracking. Why were the plugs carbon fouled? It is generally caused by either an improper fuel air mixture which you say is not the case or the plugs are not operated in the self cleaning range of approx 1000*F. Which means either the factory installed the wrong heat range plugs or you were not running the engine hard enough to get the plugs to the proper temp. I would love to hear your scientific analysis on why all champion plugs are junk.
Hmm, you obviously don't have much experience with this particular engine, or ignition systems in general.
The very LAST thing I want to fool with on this engine is air/fuel mixture. With respect to carbon it comes from numerous things. One of them being weak firing. Now this could be caused by the ignition coils, or it could be caused by the plugs. The ignition system is under warranty. The plugs aren't. The ignition system is far more difficult to change. The plugs take 5 minutes including gapping. Keep in mind I noticed this problem with around 2 hours on the machine. Maybe it's not even a problem. Maybe it's the standard. Well, it's not up to my standards. So with all that in mind the plugs were the first thing to be addressed. Problem solved. Why? Because when Champion plugs are involved 9.9 out of 10 it's the plugs. Your experience while it may differ and is certainly entertaining doesn't negate mine. But I understand where it comes from. You're used to wrenching on lawn mowers that don't put much wear on things. I installed my first engine while still in high school, and raced quite for many years after. So I learned which brands are up to the task, and which ones aren't. Can you run Champions in a lawn mower? Certainly. You just have to lower the air/fuel mixture to a level they can handle, thereby robbing horsepower from the engine. Where I come from that's just not done.
You state that people on this forum that service equipment for profit are doing a disservice to their customers if we don't do it the way you think it should be done. That is called arrogance. Oh yeah, i have about 30 things with small engines and i would bet some are as old as you and the all run fine. And most of my customers i have had for years. If the crap plugs and oil i use don't work why do they keep bringing them back every year for annual maint?
No, I stated that people like you that operate on misinformation disguised by tenure shouldn't be taken seriously. That's called the power of observation. Combustion engines for some odd reason are a complete mystery to many people. The fact that you have regular customers is great, but doesn't impress me. It just means you know a lot of people that probably aren't good with a wrench. The fact that I don't have regular customers just means I'd rather do something else professionally for more money. As for your 30 things with small engines that I highly doubt are older than I am, I'm sure they'll run forever. Because you seem to make it a practice to run small engines at less than their full potential by robbing them of horsepower as a standard practice. Thanks for making my point.
Like i said, i consider you entertainment.
I'm sure you feel the same about education. Thanks for sharing.
I am bored this morning drinking my coffee an i need some entertainment before i go out and put some more inferior spark plugs and crap dino oil in some poor unsuspecting customer's engine because i just don't care.
Great, and then you can sit around the camp fire with your customers that wouldn't know a spark plug from a banana and woo them with your stories of engine displacement reduction. Have fun! Cheers!?
