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Where do you draw the line between a garden tractor and a compact utility tractor?

Mar 22, 2011#1

JDgreen

Looking at the picture of new member bakerg's Massey GC 2400 made me realize that on LMF, garden tractors are mentioned frequently, but not CUT's (compact utility tractors) His GC 2400 is basically the same model as a GC 2410, which can handle a MMM, FEL, and backhoe. My Deere 4210 can also handle all three attachments, where my older Deere 318 can only take the MMM and optional FEL. The 318 was considered a garden tractor.

So, can we say the difference between a garden tractor and a CUT is the CUT's capability to run a backhoe in addition to the MMM and FEL? That's my opinion on the issue. Any comments?

Mar 22, 2011#2

twall

What about Kubotas? I've seen a backhoe & bucket on one that was no bigger than my AGWAY.

I know that the ability to draw at least a single-bottom plow was the litmus as to whether it was a lawn tractor, or a garden tractor.

You raise a good question.

I would think it depends on who you talk to.

Mar 22, 2011#3

JDgreen

twall said:
What about Kubotas? I've seen a backhoe & bucket on one that was no bigger than my AGWAY.

I know that the ability to draw at least a single-bottom plow was the litmus as to whether it was a lawn tractor, or a garden tractor.

You raise a good question.

A lot of mid-sized lawn tractors can pull a single bottom plow...indeed, someplace here someone was saying his 5.5 hp Briggs could pull a plow and disc....:confused2:

Mar 22, 2011#4

twall

JDgreen said:
A lot of mid-sized lawn tractors can pull a single bottom plow...indeed, someplace here someone was saying his 5.5 hp Briggs could pull a plow and disc....:confused2:

I'm just going by what I read. That itself was the Author's opinion, but at tractor shows, it seems to be the way someof them divvy up the genre.

Again, probably depends 100% on who you talk to, as to there is no real, in-stone definition.

Mar 22, 2011#5

JDgreen

twall said:
I'm just going by what I read. That itself was the Author's opinion, but at tractor shows, it seems to be the way someof them divvy up the genre.

Again, probably depends 100% on who you talk to, as to there is no real, in-stone definition.

Just posted the issue on TBN...wonder what we will learn there.

Mar 22, 2011#6

twall

JDgreen said:
Just posted the issue on TBN...wonder what we will learn there.

Is it in 'the front porch'? If so, I needn't even bother loggin in.......:laughing:

Besides, lotsa new people today here!

Mar 22, 2011#7

M

Muhammad

Quite simply, the presence of a ROPS is where the line is drawn. No ROPS? Garden tractor. ROPS? Compact tractor.

Mar 22, 2011#8

twall

Muhammad said:
Quite simply, the presence of a ROPS is where the line is drawn. No ROPS? Garden tractor. ROPS? Compact tractor.

Really? How about stuff from a few years ago......when virtually the same model had no ROPS one year, then it was added the next, while next to nothing else changed. Did the designation change?

Don't some Zero-turns have a ROPS? Wouldn't consider THEM a Compact tractor in the same way a Kubota is.......hmmmm

Mar 22, 2011#9

M

Muhammad

twall said:
Really? How about stuff from a few years ago......when virtually the same model had no ROPS one year, then it was added the next, while next to nothing else changed. Did the designation change?

Don't some Zero-turns have a ROPS? Wouldn't consider THEM a Compact tractor in the same way a Kubota is.......hmmmm

Oh boy, you've opened a can of worms now...

Bigger wheels in the back
Smaller wheels in the front

Oh wait... ZTRs have that too!

I guess it's a CUT when the MFG says it is. :biggrin:

Mar 22, 2011#10

twall

Muhammad said:
Oh boy, you've opened a can of worms now...

Bigger wheels in the back
Smaller wheels in the front

Oh wait... ZTRs have that too!

I guess it's a CUT when the MFG says it is. :biggrin:

That was my thought, too.

Mar 22, 2011#11

JDgreen

Muhammad said:
Quite simply, the presence of a ROPS is where the line is drawn. No ROPS? Garden tractor. ROPS? Compact tractor.

Well stated, but who determines whether the ROPS is installed? Tractor maker or governmental agency? Didn't mean to open a can of worms but as everybody here knows I enjoy controversy.

Mar 22, 2011#12

JDgreen

twall said:
That was my thought, too.

I remember seeing print ads that stated "SUPER garden tractor" (emphasis added) More worms to add to the can, huh?

Mar 22, 2011#13

twall

JDgreen said:
I remember seeing print ads that stated "SUPER garden tractor" (emphasis added) More worms to add to the can, huh?

And, wasn't the original 8n and the Mitsubishi D 2050 (mentioned in the new members forum) a compact tractor (minus the utility)? If a dealer puts an ROPS on one, is it now a CUT?

Didn't John Deere make the ROPS optional on some models? Were the ones with ROPS CUT's, and the ones without the option a garden tractor? :laughing:

Thanks, JD.......

Mar 22, 2011#14

JDgreen

First response on TBN says ability to carry 500 pounds in the loader and having 4wd meets the standards for CUT...

Mar 22, 2011#15

JDgreen

twall said:
And, wasn't the original 8n and the Mitsubishi D 2050 (mentioned in the new members forum) a compact tractor (minus the utility)? If a dealer puts an ROPS on one, is it now a CUT?

Didn't some JD's make the ROPS optional on some models? Were the ones with ROPS CUT's, and the ones without the option a garden tractor? :laughing:

Thanks, JD.......

I have an NAA (Jubilee) which was derived from the 8N-9N Fords and despite all my literature and magazines I never knew those were considered compact. The manual for my NAA gives the shipping weight as 2550 lbs, without gas...compares closely with the weight of my 4210 with MFWD--2750 lbs.

Mar 22, 2011#16

twall

JDgreen said:
I have an NAA (Jubilee) which was derived from the 8N-9N Fords and despite all my literature and magazines I never knew those were considered compact. The manual for my NAA gives the shipping weight as 2550 lbs, without gas...compares closely with the weight of my 4210 with MFWD--2750 lbs.

NOW you've done it! :laughing:

I always thought the large trikes (like McCormick-deering, and allis-chalmers) were 'tractors', and the 8n, the massey furgeson's of the era and the like were compact tractors. OY! :confused2:

Mar 22, 2011#17

JDgreen

twall said:
NOW you've done it! :laughing:

I always thought the large trikes (like McCormick-deering, and allis-chalmers) were 'tractors', and the 8n, the massey furgeson's of the era and the like were compact tractors. OY! :confused2:

Here's another one to confuse the issue, owners manual for my NAA states hydraulic pressure developed is 4 to 4.8 gpm....I don't that would be enough to run a backhoe so that eliminates my tractor from being a CUT....RIGHT? :biggrin:

Mar 22, 2011#18

bakerg

Well here's a John Deere H I had that was only 12hp. No ROP is it a garden tractor?:laughing::laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#19

bakerg

Maybe my Massey is a lawnmower but thinks it's a tractor, don't tell it any different because it might get an inferiority complex!:laughing::laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#20

JDgreen

bakerg said:
Well here's a John Deere H I had that was only 12hp. No ROP is it a garden tractor?:laughing::laughing:

Hmm, it's gonna be harder and harder to get those worms back in the can than I thought at first.....:laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#21

173abn

as I said on tbn,if it can't carry at least 500#in the fel and not be able to use a phd then I'd consider it a garden tractor.My 1610d Yanmar doesn't have rops but I consider it a cut.It could proably handle a bh but I would'nt want to put it to that test. russ

Mar 22, 2011#22

M

Muhammad

There are garden tractors that are diesel, yes, but not many compact tractors (if any among popular models) are gas. Maybe we need to look at the combination of diesel engine, 4wd, Cat 1 3PH and 540 RPM PTO. I don't think you'll find any garden tractor with that combination (though if one exists I'm pretty sure the NEXT post is going to tell me about it)... :biggrin:

Mar 22, 2011#23

twall

Well, like I said early on in this thread, I think it all depends on who you talk to, and when. I'm sure there are dealers that wouldn't agree with your def, Muhammad, because it would mean what they are marketing as a CUT is really a GT......and most owners of GT's that don't make the cut to be a CUT.........

It's one of those questions that I believe really has no rock solid answer at all. John heard this at dealer x, jack read y in a book, dan found z online...........

Thanks AGAIN, JD...:laughing:.......

Mar 22, 2011#24

CompactTractorFan

How come nobody has talked about SCUT's??? They are between a garden tractor and a CUT...:biggrin:

Mar 22, 2011#25

twall

CompactTractorFan said:
How come nobody has talked about SCUT's??? They are between a garden tractor and a CUT...:biggrin:

OY! More worms! :laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#26

CompactTractorFan

twall said:
OY! More worms! :laughing:

Yep, I opened another can...:laughing::biggrin:

Mar 22, 2011#27

JDgreen

CompactTractorFan said:
Yep, I opened another can...:laughing::biggrin:

HEY...COMPACT TRACTOR FAN...WHY ARE YOU HORNING IN ON MY CAN OF WORMS HERE??? :laughing::laughing:

I'm trying to become a Member of the Month here on LMF, the first one ever, and here you are trying to hijack my thread....:laughing::laughing:

Why don't you go back to TBN and wait for a second person to reply to your post on "Michelle Obamas Gardening Book"....:laughing::laughing:

I did you a favor by being the first....:laughing::laughing:

Just woofing you, glad to see you here on LMF, you will be a REAL asset here too...:thumbsup:

Mar 22, 2011#28

JDgreen

Muhammad said:
There are garden tractors that are diesel, yes, but not many compact tractors (if any among popular models) are gas. Maybe we need to look at the combination of diesel engine, 4wd, Cat 1 3PH and 540 RPM PTO. I don't think you'll find any garden tractor with that combination (though if one exists I'm pretty sure the NEXT post is going to tell me about it)... :biggrin:

I STILL say the hydraulic capacity to run a backhoe MUST be part of the specs to qualify for a CUT...

(that grinding sound you hear is either me gnashing my teeth, or the sound of me opening yet another can)

Mar 22, 2011#29

M

Muhammad

Let the roasting begin!!! :laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#30

twall

JDgreen said:
I STILL say the hydraulic capacity to run a backhoe MUST be part of the specs to qualify for a CUT...

(that grinding sound you hear is either me gnashing my teeth, or the sound of me opening yet another can)

I'm sure a dealer with not enough capacity in his offerings will be happy to disagree.......:biggrin:

Mar 22, 2011#31

JDgreen

twall said:
I'm sure a dealer with not enough capacity in his offerings will be happy to disagree.......:biggrin:

Dealer-shmealer-squealer, anything to make a sale....

Mar 22, 2011#32

twall

JDgreen said:
Dealer-shmealer-squealer, anything to make a sale....

...and muddy up the 'line' you started this thread with :tongue:

Mar 22, 2011#33

JDgreen

twall said:
...and muddy up the 'line' you started this thread with :tongue:

So, how many threads have you seen here that have generated the amount of responses in such a short time...Oh boy, I can just feel that "Member of the Month" award getting closer every minute....:laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#34

twall

JDgreen said:
So, how many threads have you seen here that have generated the amount of responses in such a short time...Oh boy, I can just feel that "Member of the Month" award getting closer every minute....:laughing:

What is this MOTM you keep referring to? You just messin around? Didn't know they did that here.

Mar 22, 2011#35

M

Muhammad

twall said:
What is this MOTM you keep referring to? You just messin around? Didn't know they did that here.

We haven't... YET. But we will... soon. :thumbsup:

Mar 22, 2011#36

JDgreen

Muhammad said:
We haven't... YET. But we will... soon. :thumbsup:

I SUGGESTED IT SO I GOT DIBS......:laughing:

No, Kenny deserves it more than me.

Twall, TBN has a "Member of the Month" and Compact Tractor Fan here has earned that for March of 2011...are you impressed now?

Mar 22, 2011#37

twall

JDgreen said:
I SUGGESTED IT SO I GOT DIBS......:laughing:

No, Kenny deserves it more than me.

Twall, TBN has a "Member of the Month" and Compact Tractor Fan here has earned that for March of 2011...are you impressed now?

Dunno - depends on what it takes to win it :laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#38

JDgreen

twall said:
Dunno - depends on what it takes to win it :laughing:

Certainly not posts like the one "Michelle Obamas Gardening Book" like I am ragging Compact Tractor Fan for starting....:laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#39

twall

JDgreen said:
Certainly not posts like the one "Michelle Obamas Gardening Book" like I am ragging Compact Tractor Fan for starting....:laughing:

I think I read some of that one......was a long thread, if I remember right........

Mar 22, 2011#40

JDgreen

twall said:
I think I read some of that one......was a long thread, if I remember right........

No, it was under "Friendly Politics" in the "Front Porch" section...he had asked if anyybody was going to buy her book...very short thread.

Mar 22, 2011#41

twall

Then, I'm likely to not see it for a long time. Haven't been on TBN in a while. I don't enjoy it as much as LMF, like I said I wouldn't when you and Kenny were pushing me to sign up........:smile:

Mar 22, 2011#42

CompactTractorFan

JDgreen said:
HEY...COMPACT TRACTOR FAN...WHY ARE YOU HORNING IN ON MY CAN OF WORMS HERE??? :laughing::laughing:

I'm trying to become a Member of the Month here on LMF, the first one ever, and here you are trying to hijack my thread....:laughing::laughing:

Why don't you go back to TBN and wait for a second person to reply to your post on "Michelle Obamas Gardening Book"....:laughing::laughing:

I did you a favor by being the first....:laughing::laughing:

Just woofing you, glad to see you here on LMF, you will be a REAL asset here too...:thumbsup:

Thanks JDgreen! I think you are the one trying to get the LMF member of the month award. :wink::laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#43

CompactTractorFan

JDgreen said:
I SUGGESTED IT SO I GOT DIBS......:laughing:

No, Kenny deserves it more than me.

Twall, TBN has a "Member of the Month" and Compact Tractor Fan here has earned that for March of 2011...are you impressed now?

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Mar 22, 2011#44

JDgreen

CompactTractorFan said:
Thanks JDgreen! I think you are the one trying to get the LMF member of the month award. :wink::laughing:

It ain't even here yet, but I told Muhammad Kenny deserves it more than me....:thumbsup:

Mar 22, 2011#45

CompactTractorFan

twall said:
Dunno - depends on what it takes to win it :laughing:

Yeah, what exactly does it take? I guess I have what ever it is...:wink::biggrin::laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#46

CompactTractorFan

JDgreen said:
Certainly not posts like the one "Michelle Obamas Gardening Book" like I am ragging Compact Tractor Fan for starting....:laughing:

Gosh...I did not think it would be that funny...:confused2:

Mar 22, 2011#47

CompactTractorFan

JDgreen said:
It ain't even here yet, but I told Muhammad Kenny deserves it more than me....:thumbsup:

OK, I saw that post now...Trying to catch up...:confused2:

Mar 22, 2011#48

twall

I'm pretty sure, when we get it, it'll be Kenny, then JD, then Kenny, then JD........We'll be in that cycle till we are ALL at two thousand posts!! LOL :laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#49

JDgreen

twall said:
Then, I'm likely to not see it for a long time. Haven't been on TBN in a while. I don't enjoy it as much as LMF, like I said I wouldn't when you and Kenny were pushing me to sign up........:smile:

But you had HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of responses to your "Home brew" thread didn't you?

Mar 22, 2011#50

CompactTractorFan

JDgreen said:
No, it was under "Friendly Politics" in the "Front Porch" section...he had asked if anyybody was going to buy her book...very short thread.

Yeah, because you were the only one who thought it was funny...

Mar 22, 2011#51

JDgreen

twall said:
I'm pretty sure, when we get it, it'll be Kenny, then JD, then Kenny, then JD........We'll be in that cycle till we are ALL at two thousand posts!! LOL :laughing:

If you keep up posting at the rate you are today you will get to the 2,000 post mark by June!!!!

Mar 22, 2011#52

CompactTractorFan

Getting back to the original topic...I posted this on TBN:

Hmmm...Simplicity has a BH attchment for one of their "Yard & Garden Tractors"...

Mar 22, 2011#53

twall

JDgreen said:
But you had HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of responses to your "Home brew" thread didn't you?

Was that sarcasm? :smile: Wasn't intended for hundreds of responses.....LOL

Mar 22, 2011#54

M

Muhammad

CompactTractorFan said:
Yeah, what exactly does it take? I guess I have what ever it is...:wink::biggrin::laughing:

Ok, I'll spill the secret... you were nominated by other members. :thumbsup:

Sometimes I pick them, sometimes they are nominated... sometimes they beg us for the honor. :laughing: Just kidding...

Mar 22, 2011#55

JDgreen

twall said:
Was that sarcasm? :smile: Wasn't intended for hundreds of responses.....LOL

You should know me by now, sarcasm is my middle name....

Mar 22, 2011#56

CompactTractorFan

Muhammad said:
Sometimes I pick them, sometimes they are nominated... sometimes they beg us for the honor.

Oh, I thought it was the latter...:wink::biggrin::laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#57

twall

JDgreen said:
You should know me by now, sarcasm is my middle name....

Then, I should have posted the smiley to be a knowing wink.......thought about that....AFTER the fact...:wink:

Mar 22, 2011#58

CompactTractorFan

twall said:
Then, I should have posted the smiley to be a knowing wink.......thought about that....AFTER the fact...:wink:

You can edit your posts...

Mar 22, 2011#59

JDgreen

Muhammad said:
Ok, I'll spill the secret... you were nominated by other members. :thumbsup:

Sometimes I pick them, sometimes they are nominated... sometimes they beg us for the honor. :laughing: Just kidding...

Please, please, may I have the humble honor of being the very first LMF member nominated to be "Member of the Month" here? PLEASE? PRETTY PLEASE?

Sigh...:frown: This begging thing is pretty hard to do when you don't have a dog to give you clues....

Mar 22, 2011#60

twall

CompactTractorFan said:
You can edit your posts...

I know - I do it all the time. But, when the thread is as rapid-fire as this one, the changes may not be seen by the one intended to see it.....:biggrin:

Mar 22, 2011#61

twall

JDgreen said:
Please, please, may I have the humble honor of being the very first LMF member nominated to be "Member of the Month" here? PLEASE? PRETTY PLEASE?

Sigh...:frown: This begging thing is pretty hard to do when you don't have a dog to give you clues....

Yeah, and if you used a cat for reference...you'd be........you! :biggrin:

Mar 22, 2011#62

CompactTractorFan

twall said:
I know - I do it all the time. But, when the thread is as rapid-fire as this one, the changes may not be seen by the one intended to see it.....:biggrin:

Yeah, you should see "The Chronicles" over on TBN. :confused2:

Mar 22, 2011#63

M

Muhammad

This is starting to remind me to RT-Polo......... (only TBNers will understand).

Mar 22, 2011#64

M

Muhammad

CompactTractorFan said:
Yeah, you should see "The Chronicles" over on TBN. :confused2:

You beat me to it. But in the interest of my post count I'm going to leave my reply. And reply again. :wink: :tongue: :newhere:

Mar 22, 2011#65

CompactTractorFan

Muhammad said:
This is starting to remind me to RT-Polo......... (only TBNers will understand).

Uh, didn't I just say that...

Mar 22, 2011#66

M

Muhammad

It's too fast... I can't keep up! :biggrin:

Mar 22, 2011#67

CompactTractorFan

OK everyone! Here is a new thread:

http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/front-porch/2455-chronicles.html#post16783

Please continue all OT posts in this thread over on "The Front Porch"...:wink:

Mar 22, 2011#68

bakerg

I think the difference between a good lawn mower and a CUT is about $10,000 Canadian as it's worth more then US dollar right now.:laughing:
if you pay 10000 more it must be a CUT but just don't tell my wife that. She still thinks it's a lawnmower.:thumbsup:

Mar 22, 2011#69

M

Muhammad

bakerg said:
I think the difference between a good lawn mower and a CUT is about $10,000 Canadian as it's worth more then US dollar right now.:laughing:
if you pay 10000 more it must be a CUT but just don't tell my wife that. She still thinks it's a lawnmower.:thumbsup:

That's because you don't have an FEL and BH. Add some ground-breaking attachments and then it's a tractor. :smile:

Mar 22, 2011#70

twall

bakerg said:
I think the difference between a good lawn mower and a CUT is about $10,000 Canadian as it's worth more then US dollar right now.:laughing:
if you pay 10000 more it must be a CUT but just don't tell my wife that. She still thinks it's a lawnmower.:thumbsup:

BINGO! There's the line - Ten grand, pick your currency..........

Above, its a CUT, below, its a GT.

Case closed. I agree, sounds fair enough. :laughing:

Mar 22, 2011#71

bakerg

Muhammad said:
That's because you don't have an FEL and BH. Add some ground-breaking attachments and then it's a tractor. :smile:

But I do have a FEL.:wink:

Mar 23, 2011#72

K

KennyV

Don't think there will be a simple enough answer to put it into a single paragraph... I think it IS what ever the manufacture wants to label it... and then let the users end up picking the correct place for it...?

I do know if you park a LT next to a LT next to a CUT all from the same or similar maker you will see some differences in design strengths & weight as you go up in the lines... :smile:KennyV

Mar 23, 2011#73

JDgreen

KennyV said:
Don't think there will be a simple enough answer to put it into a single paragraph... I think it IS what ever the manufacture wants to label it... and then let the users end up picking the correct place for it...?

I do know if you park a LT next to a LT next to a CUT all from the same or similar maker you will see some differences in design strengths & weight as you go up in the lines... :smile:KennyV

Kenny hope you have the time to follow this thread from the start sorry you missed it yesterday a bunch of us had a pretty spirited and fast paced discussion...:laughing:

Mar 24, 2011#74

bakerg

So we never got a definite division between lawn mower and CUT. Sounds like what ever a person wants to interpetet as.:confused2: Yes I know that my Massey is a CUT but i bought it to mow lawn mainly and got the FEL to move snow in the winter. Everyone around here just thinks its a big lawn mower. I live in a farming community and not to many people have CUTs. The Massey just looks like a lawn mower compared to all the big tractors around.:biggrin:
If the wife asks, thats my story and I'm sticking to it.:laughing:

Mar 24, 2011#75

JDgreen

bakerg said:
So we never got a definite division between lawn mower and CUT. Sounds like what ever a person wants to interpetet as.:confused2: Yes I know that my Massey is a CUT but i bought it to mow lawn mainly and got the FEL to move snow in the winter. Everyone around here just thinks its a big lawn mower. I live in a farming community and not to many people have CUTs. The Massey just looks like a lawn mower compared to all the big tractors around.:biggrin:
If the wife asks, thats my story and I'm sticking to it.:laughing:

When I originally started the thread I expected to get many differing viewpoints but nowhere near as many as were offered...which is why I enjoyed it so much...one guy on TBN said if you asked 30 people to define what a CUT was you would get 28 different answers...:laughing:

Mar 24, 2011#76

bakerg

JDgreen said:
When I originally started the thread I expected to get many differing viewpoints but nowhere near as many as were offered...which is why I enjoyed it so much...one guy on TBN said if you asked 30 people to define what a CUT was you would get 28 different answers...:laughing:

So can we be friends even though my Massey is bigger then your JD.:laughing:
To tell you the truth, I am a JD man myself,:thumbsup: grew up with them all my life, just could not see paying $5000 more for the green paint. Maybe I will post some of my implements and you will see that they are green. I hope the green and red will go together.:laughing:

Mar 24, 2011#77

JDgreen

bakerg said:
So can we be friends even though my Massey is bigger then your JD.:laughing:
To tell you the truth, I am a JD man myself,:thumbsup: grew up with them all my life, just could not see paying $5000 more for the green paint. Maybe I will post some of my implements and you will see that they are green. I hope the green and red will go together.:laughing:

Your Massey is bigger, huh? What is the PTO hp of your tractor? The weight with no attachments but with MFWD? Wheelbase? Overall length? Hey guys lets start a new thread here, how do you define "BIGGER"....:laughing::laughing::laughing:

Mar 24, 2011#78

JDgreen

From the factory brochure:

4210 with E-Hydro:

28 gross hp
22 pto hp
Overall length 117 inches
Wheelbase 65 inches

Weight with MFWD, full oil and coolant, no fuel 2675 lbs.

Mar 24, 2011#79

bakerg

JDgreen said:
From the factory brochure:

4210 with E-Hydro:

28 gross hp
22 pto hp
Overall length 117 inches
Wheelbase 65 inches

Weight with MFWD, full oil and coolant, no fuel 2675 lbs.

I am corrected, yours is bigger, but is it a CUT then?:laughing:

Mar 24, 2011#80

JDgreen

If my JD is NOT a CUT, that salesman is in big trouble. Yes we can be friends even though my JD is bigger than your Massey. Sent from mobile.

Mar 25, 2011#81

bakerg

JDgreen said:
If my JD is NOT a CUT, that salesman is in big trouble. Yes we can be friends even though my JD is bigger than your Massey. Sent from mobile.

What part of Michigan are you from? I live just across the border from Detroit, just outside of Windsor.

Mar 26, 2011#82

JDgreen

bakerg said:
What part of Michigan are you from? I live just across the border from Detroit, just outside of Windsor.

12 miles northeast of downtown Lansing....

Mar 26, 2011#83

K

KennyV

I just noticed that the answer you posted above ... could also answer the original question in this thread...
"Where do you draw the line between a garden tractor and a compact utility tractor"
The line may just be drawn...
"12 miles northeast of downtown Lansing.... "
:smile:KennyV

Mar 26, 2011#84

JDgreen

KennyV said:
I just noticed that the answer you posted above ... could also answer the original question in this thread...
"Where do you draw the line between a garden tractor and a compact utility tractor"
The line may just be drawn...
"12 miles northeast of downtown Lansing.... "
:smile:KennyV

And the rest of you guys here call ME a smart a--......:laughing:

Mar 26, 2011#85

jd335

JDgreen said:
And the rest of you guys here call ME a smart a--......:laughing:

if the threads i have just read here won't make you laugh you need some serious help keep going guys i haven't found the winner or the wenner yet:laughing:

Mar 26, 2011#86

JDgreen

jd335 said:
if the threads i have just read here won't make you laugh you need some serious help keep going guys i haven't found the winner or the wenner yet:laughing:

Maybe if the guys here with only 77 posts would chip in and contribute we could have more laughs....:laughing::laughing:

Mar 26, 2011#87

bakerg

JDgreen said:
Maybe if the guys here with only 77 posts would chip in and contribute we could have more laughs....:laughing::laughing:

Hey, I,m trying to post more but I think the wife is catching on about the Massey.

Going to have to take the FEL off and put on the MMM to fool her again.:laughing::laughing:

Mar 26, 2011#88

JDgreen

bakerg said:
Hey, I,m trying to post more but I think the wife is catching on about the Massey. Going to have to take the FEL off and put on the MMM to fool her again.:laughing::laughing:

I was ragging JD 335 about his measly 77 posts.....:biggrin:

Mar 26, 2011#89

jd335

and i thought i was in the running for the award jd your right when you say if i would post you would have more laughs im afraid you would have to many. i'll do better :ashamed:

Mar 26, 2011#90

jd335

jd im up to 80 do i get an award for that

Mar 26, 2011#91

JDgreen

jd335 said:
jd im up to 80 do i get an award for that

"ATTABOY" is what you get from jdgreen he is so PROUD of you. Wow twall had 97 posts in one day thanks to me and the thread I started here....:laughing:

Mar 26, 2011#92

jd335

sorry can't match twall but i'll keep trying he has an advantage he has home brew. and he's not sharing.

Mar 26, 2011#93

JDgreen

jd335 said:
sorry can't match twall but i'll keep trying he has an advantage he has home brew. and he's not sharing.

I will share corned beef if that will help....:laughing:

Mar 29, 2011#94

jd335

i tried the cornbeef once and i liked it so well i never tried it again but thanks for the offer:thumbdown:

Apr 6, 2011#95

bakerg

You eye problem probably started when you started this thread:laughing::laughing:

Apr 6, 2011#96

JDgreen

bakerg said:
You eye problem probably started when you started this thread:laughing::laughing:

Be that as it may...but I don't even remember starting it...THAT'S what scares me.....:laughing::laughing:

Apr 6, 2011#97

mystreba

Where do you draw the line between forum and chat room?

Apr 6, 2011#98

twall

JDgreen said:
Be that as it may...but I don't even remember starting it...THAT'S what scares me.....:laughing::laughing:

WOW......:shocked: You've lost it....:laughing:

Apr 6, 2011#99

twall

mystreba said:
Where do you draw the line between forum and chat room?

Around here, that line is awful blurry........(pun intended, JD)......:laughing:

Apr 6, 2011#100

JDgreen

twall said:
Around here, that line is awful blurry........(pun intended, JD)......:laughing:

GOOD ONE !!!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup: Never been on a chat room at least since I was using Windows 98...

Apr 6, 2011#101

twall

JDgreen said:
GOOD ONE !!!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup: Never been on a chat room at least since I was using Windows 98...

I used to love them, when Yahoo was big.

Apr 6, 2011#102

JDgreen

:laughing:

twall said:
I used to love them, when Yahoo was big.

There are so many YAHOOS here, you must feel like you are in a chat room.....

Apr 6, 2011#103

BKBrown

JD - I notice you aren't using the big font sizes yourself ![/COLOR] :laughing: :biggrin:

JDgreen said:
:laughing:

There are so many YAHOOS here, you must feel like you are in a chat room.....

Apr 11, 2011#104

rer

I draw the line with a plow.

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