Repairs Way to avoid a mess changing oil?

[reynoldston]

Umm dosn't every workshop have a pump or two ? :confused2:
Been around for decades.
Originally designed for marine inboards where it is sort of difficult to get under the boat to drain the oil, :laughing:


No never worked in a marina or have I ever seen one in in any shop I ever worked in. Yes it dose look handy but as I see it is a big unnecessary expense. Also it seems to me that you can also drain more of the old oil out then pump it out. Its a shop floor and oil will get spilled from time to time, so clean it up. I have found that saw dust will even take the oil stains out of the cement floor. I guess if you are worried about a little spilled oil or dirty hands you are in the wrong business. It looks like a tool for the home owner that has all the tools for every job and never get any dirt on them and you could eat out of their tool box. All show and no work. Yes I do believe in picking up and cleaning between jobs or when I am done for the day.

 

[bertsmobile1]

You got me very wrong there.
I am the original, Left brain, disorganised slob.
Flat surfaces are for putting things on that you never seem to get around to putting away.
And no you don't get every last drop . I checked a few times, probably around 1 to 2 oz left in a ride on Briggs engine. Kohler & Honda drain almost clean.
Then again you never get the last drop with a drain pan. it will drip for hours, which is one reason why flushing oil was invented.
It is a time thing. It is quick and convienant, just so easy to pull the plug and pour the spent oil into the old 44 I keep the dead oil in.
No more fishing around in an oil pan looking for the dropped drain plug. no more accidentally tipping the fresh oil in before you put the drain plug back.
No more hurt backs from picking up push mowers and holding them upside down over a drain pan. or overalls covered in fuel because you forgot to drain the fuel tank before tipping the mower over to drain the oil.
Cleaning up oil spills is no drama except it takes time and that is non-billiable time, costs money for shop rag, is messy and disruptive and then there is the OH&S problems of ending up with a boot full of hot oil.
I work alone so work in a very disruptive manner as I am always opening the gate or taking phone calls so anything that eliminates one "forgot what I was doing" mistakes is a good thing for me.
The tradeing name is Berts Mobile Mower Repairs so yes I also do on site servicing & repairs so it looks a lot better in a customers yard to be pumping the oil out cleanly.

Neary all of the pumps I have sold go to my commercial customers, those who change oil in something every week.
Home owners don't want to spend the money but I have sold a few syringe type oil pumps to householders.
OTOH I have sold better than 30 of the small 2 litre ones to BSA club members.
If you think oil changes on a mower is messy, try doing it on an A65.

 

[reynoldston]

I guess I will put it a different way. Mityvac Fluid Evacuator 100+dollars and I never will recoup that money or my old 30+ year old oil drain pan paid for years ago??? Got to say I am more into Harley Davidson country then BSA country. Lets see now to drain the oil on a Harley you remove a plug from a drain hose that go's to the oil tank very basic. The oil mess is the filter that sits in front of the engine and the oil runs all over the front frame. Never worked on or rode a BSA, not that I wouldn't like to. Love riding any motorcycle and brand means nothing to me.

 

[bertsmobile1]

prior to the 1970 oil beaering frame ( the ones with rubber gaiters on the fork legs ) used a settleing / sludging tank to hold the oil.
Like B & S at some point in time they deleted the drain bolt so you can not remover the bottom 3/4" to 2" without removing the tank from the frame.
One pre-unit models you can not easily access the oil lines to drain the tank.
On unit models they put a drain bolt in the tank. 1.5" from the bottom on a curved surface on a tank nestled closely within a V in the frame.
Impossible to drain clean but real easy to suck out , including all the sludge in the bottom.

 

[reynoldston]

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Impossible to drain clean but real easy to suck out , including all the sludge in the bottom.

To each his own and I say go buy a oil drain pump. As for me its not going to happen, my trusted old oil drain pan would feel abandon and sad if I gave it up:frown:

 

[bertsmobile1]

Well I would not want to be responsible for an abandoned oil drain pan, i just could not live with that on my conscious :laughing:
Many moons ago tere was a mob who installed coin operated oil pumps at service stations, next to those hot water engine washers, remember them ?
A clever idea for servos that did not have a workshop, drive in give the engine a tib for $ 2, suck the oil out for another $ 2 then go in and find the servo did not have any oil left :laughing:
very quickly back yard mechanics ( like me ) realised for $ 2 I could pump out 20 gallons of contaminated oil liquid waste as against paying $ 50 tipping fee at the local waste transfer station so they started to dissappear.

And cement dust or builders lime dust will suck up oil much better than sawdust.
My floor is carpeted with old rugs I get from roadside clean up.
Much more comfortable to work on, stuff that gets dropped does not go too far away, dust gets caught in it so does not cover every thing in the shop and when they get grotty , roll em back up and put them out for the next roadside clean up.

 

[reynoldston]

Well I would not want to be responsible for an abandoned oil drain pan, i just could not live with that on my conscious :laughing:
Many moons ago tere was a mob who installed coin operated oil pumps at service stations, next to those hot water engine washers, remember them ?
A clever idea for servos that did not have a workshop, drive in give the engine a tib for $ 2, suck the oil out for another $ 2 then go in and find the servo did not have any oil left :laughing:
very quickly back yard mechanics ( like me ) realised for $ 2 I could pump out 20 gallons of contaminated oil liquid waste as against paying $ 50 tipping fee at the local waste transfer station so they started to dissappear.

And cement dust or builders lime dust will suck up oil much better than sawdust.
My floor is carpeted with old rugs I get from roadside clean up.
Much more comfortable to work on, stuff that gets dropped does not go too far away, dust gets caught in it so does not cover every thing in the shop and when they get grotty , roll em back up and put them out for the next roadside clean up.

I am cheap. Off the side of my mechanical shop I have a wood shop with a so much saw free saw dust I have to burn it. Also free fuel for my wood stove.