Toro Wheel Horse model 244-5

Rivets

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According to the schematic you should have four wires going to the switch, even though it has five terminals.
A red wire for power for B terminal
A black wire ground for the G terminal
An orange wire for accessories for the L terminal
A tan wire for starting for the S terminal

Go to the Toro website I posted, download the service manual with 12 pages. On the bottom of page 9 you will find a picture of how the back of the key switch should look and compare it to yours. Post back what you find.
 

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According to the schematic you should have four wires going to the switch, even though it has five terminals.
A red wire for power for B terminal
A black wire ground for the G terminal
An orange wire for accessories for the L terminal
A tan wire for starting for the S terminal

Go to the Toro website I posted, download the service manual with 12 pages. On the bottom of page 9 you will find a picture of how the back of the key switch should look and compare it to yours. Post back what you find.

That's how it is! Only 4 wires.... it has a wire going to the M terminal, not the B terminal. The wires are connected like this: S terminal - red wire, L terminal - black wire, M terminal - tan wire, G terminal - orange wire, B terminal - no wire. All of them appear to go from the ignition to the fuse/relay box.

What I'm not understanding is that when I got the mower, everything electrical was working correctly. I removed the deck and seat, then after that is when I started having the problem with it. Plus, I noticed recently while trying to troubleshoot this thing, that when the voltage regulator is plugged, the spark plug will not fire.....Some people told me that was another safety......
 
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Did you look at page 9 of the service manual I talked about in my last post? Were the wire color and wire location on the switch the same as on page 9?
 

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Did you look at page 9 of the service manual I talked about in my last post? Were the wire color and wire location on the switch the same as on page 9?

They're the same color, just in different locations....I don't know why....seems odd to me.
 

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If the unit worked before you started this project and you did not change the key switch, we are missing something in our communications. You say that the key switch has the terminals in the same location as the diagram shown on page 9? If that is true, then the only thing that be done is rewire the switch. Being a retired instructor I am very hesitant in giving you instructions on how to do this, given you limited ability to understand wiring diagrams. Safety is always number 1 for me and if you hook up a wire wrong we could cost big $$$$ in repairs or worse. I'm going ask you to take a close look at the wiring diagram one more time and see if you can trace each of the wires to the proper component to make sure that the only component which does not have the correct wires attached to it is the ignition switch. If you can not convince me that you are comfortable working with the diagram, for safety reasons I will have to back out of this thread. Sorry, but that's just the way I am.
 

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Perhaps it is best if I wait until I can get someone more experienced to look at it, then? Thanks for all your patience and advice, it is much appreciated! Once I get it figured out, I'll let you know what the problem was.
 

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I think that is a wise decision. If you need help in the future please post back.
 

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I think that is a wise decision. If you need help in the future please post back.

Rivets, I got it going with a lot of help from an old family friend. We rewired the ignition according to the diagram. The hardest part was getting the wires to unlock from the plastic plug. Once we did that, the relays would engage, but nothing else would happen. If I remember correctly, we had to add another piece of wire in order to splice the red and tan wires together in order for the switch to start the engine. To make the ignition kill, we had to add a wire to the magneto post on the ignition, and splice it to the light blue wire that energizes the solenoid.

I think I'm telling you correctly as to what we did, but I'm not looking at it as I'm typing this. Anyways, it it finally working as it should, and very well to boot! All I have to do is turn the key to start for just half of a second and the engine starts right up!
 

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How was that beer when you got it started, I'll bet it really tasted good.
 
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