Toro Timecutter 4250 - love it! Hate it! A modest proposal

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  • / Toro Timecutter 4250 - love it! Hate it! A modest proposal
FWIW, I've been mowing the same acre of ground for fifty years, so I know it pretty well.

The all-around best mower for the money was a Simplicity 30" 8hp tractor style. The little B&S ran for thirty years and was still running when I sold it.

Two Cub Cadet tractors, a 12hp and a 16hp Kohler, were beasts and I probably should have kept one of them. Problem was, tractors are slow, don't climb steep hills for shite. What I do miss is their ability to steer the front wheels and to cut right up to the fenceline on hillsides.

Anyway, for several years now, I've been using a Toro Timecutter 4250 ZT. It's faster, more maneuverable on flat ground; however on hillsides, it's a dangerous pig-on-ice. Way too many times, including just today, the Toro has gotten me stuck and tangled into fences where the tractors were never, ever a problem.

The Toro Owner's Manual goes into great detail about safety and emphasizes that the mower is only safe to use on flat ground.

However, while escaping the zombie apocalypse, I have mow my way up a way-too-steep hill. I discovered the Toro is a regular mountain goat, as long as it's going straight up or straight down. Try to traverse a side hill and the zombies will get you for certain.

Anyway, if the grass catchers are full of green grass, and/or the operator is 6' 2" 240, that's a lot of weight on the rear and the front end can get a little light at the top of the hill. I added a 2' section of 3" oil field pipe; about 50#, to the weight box above the front axle and that ties the front down solidly.

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  • / Toro Timecutter 4250 - love it! Hate it! A modest proposal
It is like a zero turn. Not recommended for hills. But , if you do negotiate a hill you have to go straight up and down as you mentioned. You seem to be doing the best you can with it which seems acceptable enough.

I have a friend with a Snapper 28" riding mower with a 8HP Briggs. The thing is about 25 years old and he loves it. His lawn is pretty flat. If the engine dies he will re-power it. Some came with a bit larger HP engines.
 
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Weight is better distributed on a tractor style riding mower. With a ZTR all of the weight is on the rear.
 

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Weight is better distributed on a tractor style riding mower. With a ZTR all of the weight is on the rear.
Here we go again with zero turns and hills. Riding mowers are terrible on hills (very tippy). Zero turns, as a general rule, are great on hills.
 

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Neither are very good running parallel to the slope. That's why manufacturers put recommendations in their owners manual.
 

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To run parallel on a hill you need a 50 lb. wheel counterweight on one side (uphill side) as a minimum to maintain traction. Loop around and always keep the weight towards the rise of the hill.

I still use a 1980's Snapper RER with a 30-inch deck, and it is a monster on any terrain.
 

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I have a Toro TimeCutter SWX5050 and an Exmark Quest 42 inch steering wheel ZTR and they both handle slopes and sidehills better than any other residential ZTR.
The steerable front wheels hold it on slopes like a lawn tractor, and the rear hydros are mechanically connected to the steering so they both provide traction on slopes.

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