Propane Zero Turn

[Mid TN Lawn]

Around here if you do not have a 500 gallon storage tank to refill your own tanks gas works out cheaper bulk propane is 2.00 gallon delivered right now but if you take 20 or 30 # tanks to be filled cost 18.00 for 20 and 27.00 for 30 thats much higher than gas

 

[Terry CleanFuel]

Also I would like to add that Tru Green, U.S. Lawns, and Terra Care being some of the largest companies in the country received huge tax breaks switching their mowers to propane.

Rebates are available to anyone converting. If your vehicle is propane that's a $.50 rebate right there.

And on a side note I'm sure they switched to propane to give the image of going "green" to make themselves look more environmentally friendly.

They certainly ARE more environmentally friendly! Propane emits almost 80% fewer emissions than gasoline

Propane and the environment - All Propane Mowers

Tru Green, TerraCare, US Lawns, they ALL are being environmentally conscious and using an American fuel in the process - all the time saving a bunch of money and reducing their maintenance costs. How can that be a bad thing?

 

[briggs]

Rebates are available to anyone converting. If your vehicle is propane that's a $.50 rebate right there.



They certainly ARE more environmentally friendly! Propane emits almost 80% fewer emissions than gasoline

Propane and the environment - All Propane Mowers

Tru Green, TerraCare, US Lawns, they ALL are being environmentally conscious and using an American fuel in the process - all the time saving a bunch of money and reducing their maintenance costs. How can that be a bad thing?

u sound like a salesman are they paying u well lol......I understand what u are saying ..But lets be real here PROPANE is not that easy to come by for most people unless u own a place that sells it or have a place close by to get it ..I am always up for new ideas and never knock one till I try it ..But I worked on propane vehicles back in 80s and 90s cabs/cop cars/forklifts etc ..Is it cleaner yes more horsepower yes ...But it is not cheaper to use why do u think they stopped using in fleet vehicles it cost to much to fix and maintain plus here u have to have it recertified every couple of years not just anyone can work on it ..Its not practical ...I had propane heat in my house and it cost me way more to heat it then it did when I had oil I went back to oil ...From a consumer point of view they want something they can work on themselves who wants to pay the high cost of a dealer to fix there stuff ...One mistake with propane and say good bye u don't get a second chance with it not sure if I want to strap a bomb to my butt..Gas and diesel are the way to go in my opinion

 

[Terry CleanFuel]

u sound like a salesman are they paying u well lol......I understand what u are saying ..But lets be real here PROPANE is not that easy to come by for most people unless u own a place that sells it or have a place close by to get it ..I am always up for new ideas and never knock one till I try it ..But I worked on propane vehicles back in 80s and 90s cabs/cop cars/forklifts etc ..Is it cleaner yes more horsepower yes ...But it is not cheaper to use why do u think they stopped using in fleet vehicles it cost to much to fix and maintain plus here u have to have it recertified every couple of years not just anyone can work on it ..Its not practical ...I had propane heat in my house and it cost me way more to heat it then it did when I had oil I went back to oil ...From a consumer point of view they want something they can work on themselves who wants to pay the high cost of a dealer to fix there stuff ...One mistake with propane and say good bye u don't get a second chance with it not sure if I want to strap a bomb to my butt..Gas and diesel are the way to go in my opinion

They stopped using propane because the technology wasn't in place yet for fuel injection. I've been in the propane business nonstop for almost 40 years. I've been a carb specialist for almost 30. Rebuilding a propane system including the converter/regulator is about half what it cost to rebuild a Holley or Rochester. I don't know where you're getting your information.

You are right in that not everybody can work on it. If I were having problems I would take them to my dealer. My MOWER dealer. It's still the same mower.

As for maintenance, there is less than a comparable gasoline vehicle and as for certification every two years, this is the first I've ever heard of that so I must owe close to forty years of fees. I honestly have never heard of it, but then again, I only travel the United States and their territories.

You keep making statements about the safety of propane. Can you share some of those incidents of folks who "never got a second chance?"

You are certainly allowed to have an opinion but in my experience they simply have no basis in fact. Not one bit.

Feel free to google anything I've mentioned here. I've tried googling your statements and came up empty. Nothing personal...

 

[LoCo86]

Rebates are available to anyone converting. If your vehicle is propane that's a $.50 rebate right there. They certainly ARE more environmentally friendly! Propane emits almost 80% fewer emissions than gasoline Propane and the environment - All Propane Mowers Tru Green, TerraCare, US Lawns, they ALL are being environmentally conscious and using an American fuel in the process - all the time saving a bunch of money and reducing their maintenance costs. How can that be a bad thing?

Not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying that they don't care about the environment, they just changed for the money involved. I'm sure you know businesses of that size have to spend an incredible amount of money to help with their taxes. I just wonder after the next presidential election how many of those companies stick with propane.

 

[briggs]

They stopped using propane because the technology wasn't in place yet for fuel injection. I've been in the propane business nonstop for almost 40 years. I've been a carb specialist for almost 30. Rebuilding a propane system including the converter/regulator is about half what it cost to rebuild a Holley or Rochester. I don't know where you're getting your information.

You are right in that not everybody can work on it. If I were having problems I would take them to my dealer. My MOWER dealer. It's still the same mower.

As for maintenance, there is less than a comparable gasoline vehicle and as for certification every two years, this is the first I've ever heard of that so I must owe close to forty years of fees. I honestly have never heard of it, but then again, I only travel the United States and their territories.

You keep making statements about the safety of propane. Can you share some of those incidents of folks who "never got a second chance?"

You are certainly allowed to have an opinion but in my experience they simply have no basis in fact. Not one bit.

Feel free to google anything I've mentioned here. I've tried googling your statements and came up empty. Nothing personal...

well I worked on propane vehicles we had cop shop bring there cars we had sears Canada bring there service vans the post office had them too we had cabs we also had trucks and they all went to gas and the trucks went diesel ..It was because the price got to high for them to run a fleet of 200 or more vehicles at one point the crap cost more then gas and was not easy to get it still isn't not all gas stations care we have about 4 here in the city and not much out side of town ....I worked at a shop that a guy got killed at working on a propane cab bang blew him out the door 15 feet deader then a door nail he was cert ...Here if u had a commercial vehicle that carry's people u had to have it CERT every few years to protect the company's *** so they don't get there *** sued if something go's wrong all Commercial Vehicles in Canada get CERT we don't want junk on the road here ...I also saw a car that the tank ruptured some how car was totaled and the driver was dead been not everything that happens hits the news or is not reported I am not going to waste my time with goggle if it was so good they would have kept it

 

[Parkmower]

We run a CNG 3/4 ton Chevy with a plow. When plowing it gets absolutely terrible mileage. The tank only holds equivalent of 15 gal is gas. So refueling is often. One of our facilities has a CNG filling station but it's 15 min away so that's a pain when all our facilities have a fuel island with gas and diesel. We have a very large fleet and were required to have a certain percentage run on alternative fuels.

 

[briggs]

We run a CNG 3/4 ton Chevy with a plow. When plowing it gets absolutely terrible mileage. The tank only holds equivalent of 15 gal is gas. So refueling is often. One of our facilities has a CNG filling station but it's 15 min away so that's a pain when all our facilities have a fuel island with gas and diesel. We have a very large fleet and were required to have a certain percentage run on alternative fuels.

i hear u i had a 1 ton truck with a propane set up not very friendly on propane when loaded or working it ...It was my mobile service truck then i switched to a Diesel truck

 

[TaskForceLawnCare]

Check it out let the propane smoking hippie use his propane vehicles/mowers. Until my old steam powered mowers aren't working for me, then I'm not going to consider switching over. I'm going green already we only use alternative fuel vehicles, it the latest crazy out West it's called diesel, I'm pretty sure you can get it almost anywhere. Here's another great idea E85 do i want to drink it or put it in my car. It's simple moonshine and gasoline mixed, mixed with some hippie scientist and boom it's a great idea. Except now you get 1/2 the fuel milage you did before. One more thing Serve your country go to war for your country it's the "patriotic thing to do"
40 years in propane congrats I'll bet you and Hank Hill from Arlen Texas would have a lot to talk about.

 

[Terry CleanFuel]

Check it out let the propane smoking hippie use his propane vehicles/mowers. Until my old steam powered mowers aren't working for me, then I'm not going to consider switching over. I'm going green already we only use alternative fuel vehicles, it the latest crazy out West it's called diesel, I'm pretty sure you can get it almost anywhere. Here's another great idea E85 do i want to drink it or put it in my car. It's simple moonshine and gasoline mixed, mixed with some hippie scientist and boom it's a great idea. Except now you get 1/2 the fuel milage you did before. One more thing Serve your country go to war for your country it's the "patriotic thing to do"
40 years in propane congrats I'll bet you and Hank Hill from Arlen Texas would have a lot to talk about.

I did serve as did my two sons. The only difference is that they fought against an enemy that is financed with US dollars spent on imported oil.

I'm not sure what you mean about the hippie reference and how it applies to propane. I don't understand the ethanol reference either. Ethanol does not do small engines any favors. Propane is ethanol free.

You know it's funny. Any gasmen can talk for hours on end (dependent upon how much beer is available) and it never fails. It's conversations like the one we're having is what we talk about.

No worries! Like I said, all I can do is present the facts. It's up to the individual to make an informed, intelligent decision.