Old vs new size comparision

Kingwood990

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With much lighter weight you can (and they DO) use bushings instead of wheel/axle bearings. This goes even deeper into the drive system... The transmissions can be bushed.
Engines do not have to be built to deal with constant torque loads... Steering is built much lighter. Everything goes down Cost, quality life expectancy, And you end up with a under $2000 rider or a under $3000 ZTR.

In MOST cases this will not be a problem for the average residential user. BUT when someone gets the idea that they can get one of these light weights to do even mild commercial use, or large acreage... They are only kidding themselves.
AND these are the users that give the various mower manufacturers a bad name. They are buying the wrong tool for the job they have in mind.
Manufacturers will make the lighter models 'LOOK' like the commercial lines, from a distance.
You will find the same thing in tool makers... I'm sure you have seen hammers that sell for a dollar, at a glance you will identify it's a hammer... but don't compare it to a $30 framers hammer.

The older riders were down scaled tractors... and they have lug nuts that bolt the drive wheels to hubs on the axles... the front wheels are on wheel bearings, and the steering linkage has ball joint or hymen linkage...
Used within the design limits the light weight equipment will do the job for some folks...
BUT if you want it to last the best part of your lifetime, buy an actual commercial grade machine. Then you will be 'occasionally' repairing rather than replacing... :smile:KennyV

PS.. I'm an old geezer ... I like OLD machines, have several, just because they are fun and easy to look at....

I started out with a worn out light weight riding mower and replaced it with a new heavier built garden tractor. The differences were like night and day. The heavier duty machine has paid for its self in productivity and lack of down time. If I knew it was going to be this good I would of bought a garden tractor years ago.

Went with a commercial grade machine because I knew it would last me a life time.
Got the old stuff to tinker with and also because they look great. And they have stories behind them.
 

JDgreen

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The deck on mine weights about 150-170 pounds. The deck is very think and all steel. The tractor has more plastic body panels than steel. Over all the machine is well built with the exception of the plastic hood. If it had steel hood I would love this tractor even more.

My 318 has a plastic hood, ditto my 4210....I too would prefer steel but perhaps they use plastic because it is more effective at keeping underhood temps down and less prone to cracking from vibration?
 

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My 318 has a plastic hood, ditto my 4210....I too would prefer steel but perhaps they use plastic because it is more effective at keeping underhood temps down and less prone to cracking from vibration?

I know the hood on the orange tractor vibrates when the machine was running. It might be because the engine was the large Briggs single.

The X520 is liquid cooled V-twin powered and runs very smooth. The hood has vents on the top and the sides. The vents on the top send air to the air cleaner on the carburetor kind of like ram-air on a Pontiac GTO. The vents on the side suck in cool air in to the radiator and also vent the hot air out of the engine bay. This set up works very well. I have never had any over heating problems during the summer.
 

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The vents on the top send air to the air cleaner on the carburetor kind of like ram-air on a Pontiac GTO.

Hey just how fast are you driving this thing??:biggrin:

Twin cylinders are 'usually' a bit smother than single, but they all sound great... :smile:KennyV
 

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Hey just how fast are you driving this thing??:biggrin:

Twin cylinders are 'usually' a bit smother than single, but they all sound great... :smile:KennyV

The speed is any where from 0-7 mph.:biggrin: If you put your hand over one of the vents at WOT you can feel the the air being drawn into the engine.
 

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Mine must be full of hot air, if it's running fast you can put your hand over the exhaust and feel it.:laughing:
 
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