Obsolete SCAG Idler arm assembly #46145

[Honest Abe]

have you checked "PartsTree.com", it shows up for $108.99, but you'd have to call to be certain ..../

 

[StarTech]

The Abe it is that vendors and their suppliers are not updating the price files like they should. This causes me problems on other OEM prices files as I use them to quote my customers. Lately both distributors showed a part available via the price file downloads just a day before. One item I was trying get apparently been since 2019 but was showing as an active part. Another part had increase in cost above the suggested retail price in the price file. This cause me to lose money on the sale as I quote the price per the price file and that was double checked on their website. I honored my quoted price but had rework that SKU on my system to reflect the new cost.

So basically it not always the sellers fault an item is shown available when the OEM doesn't provide us with the latest info.

 

[Rich9]

In the middle pix it appears that you have worn completely thru the bushing so it need removing and the bore may need slightly resized to recenter things as you want the new bushing(s) to be making full contact. It also may just be the way pix looks here.

Now there might enough the steel busing to get the PN number off it for the manufacture of the bushing. The problem there is if anyone sells a small quantity of them. This is the problem doing a lot repairs as locals just don't provide us the parts like they did years ago as today's techs are a lot lazier than but in my early years of working on things.

Now is two bronze bushings will work, they should or you could go with a full length one and just drill out the material where the zerk goes. Just be aware that bronze bushing will not last long as the steel one so you need to check on it more often and make you keep it greased.

As for the bushing sizing is one you would need do on your end as I have never had one these arms in my shop so I don't have the specs from one I have done. But you should be able get the bronze bushings from Grainger.

Hello Startech,
Sorry. The hub photos I sent are showing you the hub without the bronze bearings. I removed them. The new attached photos show you the two bronze bearings next to the hub. You can tell these bronze pieces are worn out to the point there is no material left on some locations. Now I think there is still a steel sleeve inside that hub. The photo ending with 42054 or 13507 seem to indicate it is there. I will talk to a machinist and see if he can help but I don't know what he do to reproduce the steel insert. He might need to machine a brand new hub. Maybe full solid hub that can accept the bronze bearings. There are no issues in ordering the bronze bearings. I am waiting on them to arrive from Scagpartonline. Once I receive the new bronze bearings I will be able to know the steel insert ID (bronze bearing OD).
Thanks so much.

Richard

 

[StarTech]

Yuck...There might not strength left if the hub is trued up. It should be replaced and then new bushing installed But that is just my opinion..

 

[Honest Abe]

Hello Startech,
Sorry. The hub photos I sent are showing you the hub without the bronze bearings. I removed them. The new attached photos show you the two bronze bearings next to the hub. You can tell these bronze pieces are worn out to the point there is no material left on some locations. Now I think there is still a steel sleeve inside that hub. The photo ending with 42054 or 13507 seem to indicate it is there. I will talk to a machinist and see if he can help but I don't know what he do to reproduce the steel insert. He might need to machine a brand new hub. Maybe full solid hub that can accept the bronze bearings. There are no issues in ordering the bronze bearings. I am waiting on them to arrive from Scagpartonline. Once I receive the new bronze bearings I will be able to know the steel insert ID (bronze bearing OD).
Thanks so much.

Richard

according to the parts diagram, there shouldn't be any steel insert, just an upper "and" a lower bronze bearing...

 

[StarTech]

It depends on what Scag spec'd. Here I am reworking some Husqvarna pivots points that uses Teflon coated steel inserts. As I said before I haven't seen this pivot point in person so I just don't what was used and am depending on the OP to tell me what is or was present. He is in a lot better position currently to determine what was used.

 

[Rich9]

have you checked "PartsTree.com", it shows up for $108.99, but you'd have to call to be certain ..../

IHi Hionest Abe,
I will certainly try Partstree. Likely less expensive then asking for a new hub to be made.
Thanks for the information.

 

[Rich9]

according to the parts diagram, there shouldn't be any steel insert, just an upper "and" a lower bronze bearing...

Yes. That's what I saw in the parts list as well. It's just weird that one end of the hub appears to have a steel insert which receives the bronze bearing. Maybe it is just a chamfered inner edge. I am wrong...Okay, now I see how it is assembled. The hub mates with the arm plate. The hub's machined end male OD fits into the plate's receiving hole and that's how the two aligned together. No steel insert in that hub. Just two bronze bearings.
By the way...PartsTree had same issue with this part: Not available at manufacturer (Scag).
But the good news is: I found it on Ebay, finally. Got it on order for $100.00. Probably a surplus the seller had in his inventory. $100.00 beats any machining job plus welding time to reconstruct the arm with new hub.
I should be good for awhile with this part replaced. Lesson learned. I will remember to change those bronze bearings before they are worn out!
Thank you all.

Regards

Richard

 

[beatleswmc01]

If you’re having issues finding parts let me know. My work has a system where we can look up part numbers and see if anyone else using the same system has one in stock (well it’s hit or miss if it’s accurate). If you want me to I can check and give you a list.

 

[Brucewayne]

Due to price I would probably check Mcmaster Carr for the bushings.