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Jan 1, 2014#1

jekjr

In Colorado you can buy pot legal today. Outta be interesting to see where that goes nation wide.

Jan 1, 2014#2

reynoldston

jekjr said:
In Colorado you can buy pot legal today. Outta be interesting to see where that goes nation wide.

And everyone thinks it is just wonderful. I sure hope they keep it in Colorado. You have to be nuts in the head to smoke pot or use any drugs.

Jan 1, 2014#3

exotion

Washington just legalized it the problem is that it isn't legal federally so people can't pay taxes on it yet so it still has to be a cash only business leaving lots of room for roberys and other not so good stuff. We offically have a few stores open here they can pay city and state taxes but are having issues with the federal level

Jan 1, 2014#4

Mike88se

About 30 years too late for me to care much one way or the other

I'm glad to see it happening though. There was never any good reason to make it illegal.

Jan 1, 2014#5

reynoldston

Mike88se said:
About 30 years too late for me to care much one way or the other I'm glad to see it happening though. There was never any good reason to make it illegal.

No one should misuse drugs including alcohol. Its got to be best I don't get into this because I can see a big argument coming here as to what I think you are saying here.
Its a weak person that has needs for this type of thing.

Jan 1, 2014#6

Mike88se

reynoldston said:
No one should misuse drugs including alcohol. Its got to be best I don't get into this because I can see a big argument coming here as to what I think you are saying here.
Its a weak person that has needs for this type of thing.

No, it would be pointless to argue. All we have is opinions and viewpoints... we don't make the laws. It's been 30 years since I smoked any pot. Doesn't bother me if others want to though.

Jan 1, 2014#7

exotion

Mike88se said:
No, it would be pointless to argue. All we have is opinions and viewpoints... we don't make the laws. It's been 30 years since I smoked any pot. Doesn't bother me if others want to though.

Ya I don't really care anyway... I don't smoke it and our city really needs some income so I say let's do it I've just been reading on the legalities of it its interesting

Jan 1, 2014#8

F

fatboy

Good luck arent there enough distracted drivers all we need now is high ones

Jan 1, 2014#9

exotion

fatboy said:
Good luck arent there enough distracted drivers all we need now is high ones

And they can get pulled over and pay a ticket which will bring income they have weed breathalizers its no different than someone drinking and driving its still a dui

Jan 1, 2014#10

Ric

exotion said:
Washington just legalized it the problem is that it isn't legal federally so people can't pay taxes on it yet so it still has to be a cash only business leaving lots of room for robbery and other not so good stuff. We officially have a few stores open here they can pay city and state taxes but are having issues with the federal level

Yeah that's the problem, the state says it's legal to sell but federal law trumps state law so if your caught with the stuff you could end up facing charges in Federal court.

Jan 1, 2014#11

exotion

Ric said:
Yeah that's the problem, the state says it's legal to sell but federal law trumps state law so if your caught with the stuff you could end up facing charges in Federal court.

Ya its interesting for sure there is a guy bought a 30000 sqft building he is going to lease out to growers and sellers for a super weed mall here that way he just making legit cash from leasing space and the small guys are responsible for them selves its going to open next month

Jan 1, 2014#12

Mike88se

fatboy said:
Good luck arent there enough distracted drivers all we need now is high ones

You think there weren't people driving high before? I'd worry a lot more about people texting drivers or drunk drivers than about someone who has smoked a joint

Jan 2, 2014#13

Carscw

I don't drink or puff on the Magic stick but I know others that do and I would rather deal with someone high on pot than a drunk person.

I feel if your drunk or high and driving you should go to jail for a few years.

Jan 2, 2014#14

D

de dee

Ric said:
Yeah that's the problem, the state says it's legal to sell but federal law trumps state law so if your caught with the stuff you could end up facing charges in Federal court.

Ya drugs must be good for you ,. we have two young kids in there twentys using it for a few years and they hardly know there names,. total nut jobs,.

Jan 2, 2014#15

Mike88se

Carscw said:
I don't drink or puff on the Magic stick but I know others that do and I would rather deal with someone high on pot than a drunk person.

I feel if your drunk or high and driving you should go to jail for a few years.

Couldn't agree more. Here in TX people get 5 or 6 DWI/DUI convictions before they finally have to do time. That's crazy.

de dee said:
Ya drugs must be good for you ,. we have two young kids in there twentys using it for a few years and they hardly know there names,. total nut jobs,.

Big difference between "drugs" and pot. Everyone I know that smokes pot are healthy, normal, productive members of society. I have a longtime buddy that is a hunt guideand one of the best dog trainers in the world. People have brought him dogs from as far away as Denmark and Scotland because of his skills. He smokes pot when he isn't working

Yep, lets throw him in prison

I think I'll follow reynoldston's lead and drop out of this thread :confused2:

Jan 10, 2014#16

wjjones

de dee said:
Ya drugs must be good for you ,. we have two young kids in there twentys using it for a few years and they hardly know there names,. total nut jobs,.

:laughing:..:thumbsup:...Baked. The problem with them making it legal is the persons I know in my area that get other drugs, pain kilers, etc turn around, and sell them for profit. I know a guy that gets pain killers from the VA for free, and sells them on the street to whoever?? I dont see any reason why pot would be different.

Jan 10, 2014#17

exotion

wjjones said:
:laughing:..:thumbsup:...Baked. The problem with them making it legal is the persons I know in my area that get other drugs, pain kilers, etc turn around, and sell them for profit. I know a guy that gets pain killers from the VA for free, and sells them on the street to whoever?? I dont see any reason why pot would be different.

Because it won't be effecient to do that any more why buy and sell for more expensive when the clientell can buy it cheaper and legal and like I said it will bring in loads of money from taxes, fines, licences, etc to the city it will bring money to the community and local business and stimulate our local economy I don't believe everyone is going to run out and get stoned everyday all day its a recreational drug to gave some fun off the clock and people who abuse it will loose their jobs get duis go to jail just like alchohol it will be no different people are afraid of change get over it...

Besides people are going to do it anyway and already are so why not make a buck off it. Nothing will change except there might be more happy and hungry people lol

Jan 10, 2014#18

L

LoCo86

I don't understand how one drug can be legal and other ones can't. Why not just make crack legal as long as you don't drive while you are high on it. That's the message I getting. It doesn't make any sense. It's rediculous.

Jan 10, 2014#19

Carscw

LoCo86 said:
I don't understand how one drug can be legal and other ones can't. Why not just make crack legal as long as you don't drive while you are high on it. That's the message I getting. It doesn't make any sense. It's rediculous.

Pot is a herb and meth is a chemically made drug.
Crack has nothing good in it for you. I
People over dose on crack every day.
Have you ever heard of anyone that has died because the smoked a joint?
Read some study's on pot.

No I do not smoke pot

Jan 10, 2014#20

exotion

Carscw said:
Pot is a herb and meth is a chemically made drug.
Crack has nothing good in it for you. I
People over dose on crack every day.
Have you ever heard of anyone that has died because the smoked a joint?
Read some study's on pot.

No I do not smoke pot

Excatly man made vs natural is what that is about salvia weed shrooms are all natural
Crack meth heroin excstacy are man made in someones basement or garage

Jan 10, 2014#21

L

LoCo86

Carscw said:
Pot is a herb and meth is a chemically made drug. Crack has nothing good in it for you. I People over dose on crack every day. Have you ever heard of anyone that has died because the smoked a joint? Read some study's on pot. No I do not smoke pot

I understand the chemical and botanical structure difference between the two. Anyone one who has watched a few episodes of Breaking Bad can tell you that. All I am saying is how can one mind altering drug be any different from another and then have someone adjudicate that one can be legal and the other one can not.

Jan 10, 2014#22

Carscw

Well you can now get high but need a doctors note to buy sex toys.

Jan 11, 2014#23

jekjr

LoCo86 said:
I understand the chemical and botanical structure difference between the two. Anyone one who has watched a few episodes of Breaking Bad can tell you that. All I am saying is how can one mind altering drug be any different from another and then have someone adjudicate that one can be legal and the other one can not.

If the government would get out of the regulation of drugs and alcohol, meaning none were illegal and none were taxed, the drug problem would drop drastically.

Drugs like crack and meth would probably not even exist if it were not for the government regulations on them. If they were legalized and not taxed the value of them would drop drastically. Once the value dropped those in the business would no longer be able to make mega dollars. Like in any other business if there is not a profit margin there is no way to stay in business.

If heroine were legalized today in all 50 states, there would be no more new heroine addicts 6 months from now than there will be with all of the rules and regulations.

Also most crime would drop dramatically as well. An extremely large percentage of crime world wide is because of the drug trade. Much of it is to get money to buy drugs. A lot more of it is because of drug gangs who have become so powerful because of the money that they do as they please.

Jan 11, 2014#24

exotion

jekjr said:
If the government would get out of the regulation of drugs and alcohol, meaning none were illegal and none were taxed, the drug problem would drop drastically.

Drugs like crack and meth would probably not even exist if it were not for the government regulations on them. If they were legalized and not taxed the value of them would drop drastically. Once the value dropped those in the business would no longer be able to make mega dollars. Like in any other business if there is not a profit margin there is no way to stay in business.

If heroine were legalized today in all 50 states, there would be no more new heroine addicts 6 months from now than there will be with all of the rules and regulations.

Also most crime would drop dramatically as well. An extremely large percentage of crime world wide is because of the drug trade. Much of it is to get money to buy drugs. A lot more of it is because of drug gangs who have become so powerful because of the money that they do as they please.

This sounds pretty but it wouldn't work people will always look for a way out and drugs are the easy way, make it legal and more people will have access ..... Besides those drugs kill people... Pot does not

Jan 11, 2014#25

midnite rider

exotion said:
This sounds pretty but it wouldn't work people will always look for a way out and drugs are the easy way, make it legal and more people will have access ..... Besides those drugs kill people... Pot does not

Some life altering drug facts about legal alcohol, one of "those drugs":

Alcohol is the oldest of all recreational drugs.
Statistics show that more teens are killed by alcohol than by all illegal drugs combined.
Approximately 17 percent of men and 8 percent of women will be dependent on alcohol in their lifetime.
There are roughly 80,000 deaths that are related to alcohol abuse every year, making it the third highest cause of death in the U.S.
Alcoholism is a disease that affects over 14 million people in the U.S.

Jan 11, 2014#26

Mike88se

Carscw said:
Well you can now get high but need a doctors note to buy sex toys.

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Lol... it's true you can't legislate morality. And hell, most legislators don't have any room to talk about morality to the rest of us.

exotion said:
This sounds pretty but it wouldn't work people will always look for a way out and drugs are the easy way, make it legal and more people will have access ..... Besides those drugs kill people... Pot does not

Agreed... no comparisons between heroin/meth/crack and pot.
But... the only thing this war on drugs has accomplished is to make millionaires and billionaires out of thugs and criminals. In the 60's and 70's there weren't any powerful cartels south of the border. There was organized crime groups who controlled the supply of hard drugs in small areas of the US and their equivalents overseas. Nothing like the powerful Mexican and South American cartels we have today or the highly organized biker gangs whose leaders wear suits and ties now instead of colors and greasy jeans.

midnite rider said:
Some life altering drug facts about legal alcohol, one of "those drugs":

Alcohol is the oldest of all recreational drugs.
Statistics show that more teens are killed by alcohol than by all illegal drugs combined.
Approximately 17 percent of men and 8 percent of women will be dependent on alcohol in their lifetime.
There are roughly 80,000 deaths that are related to alcohol abuse every year, making it the third highest cause of death in the U.S.
Alcoholism is a disease that affects over 14 million people in the U.S.

:thumbsup:

Jan 12, 2014#27

C

Crawdad

Carscw said:
Well you can now get high but need a doctors note to buy sex toys.

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Smoking that stuff will get you locked up, but if you are a sodomist, and come out of the closet, you might get a call from the president, telling you he's proud of you!

What's up with that?

Jan 12, 2014#28

wjjones

Carscw said:
Well you can now get high but need a doctors note to buy sex toys.

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:laughing:...:laughing:...:thumbsup:... Each to his, or her own.

Jun 19, 2014#29

DSepe

LoCo86 said:
I don't understand how one drug can be legal and other ones can't. Why not just make crack legal as long as you don't drive while you are high on it. That's the message I getting. It doesn't make any sense. It's rediculous.

I think all the propaganda got to you at some point. Alcohol and cigarettes are much much more deadly. Any statistic will prove that. Legalizing pot just takes the power out of drug dealers. Just like ending prohibition crippled the mob's power. Pot is nothing compared to actual hardcore drugs.

Jun 20, 2014#30

grumpygrizzly

DSepe said:
I think all the propaganda got to you at some point. Alcohol and cigarettes are much much more deadly. Any statistic will prove that. Legalizing pot just takes the power out of drug dealers. Just like ending prohibition crippled the mob's power. Pot is nothing compared to actual hardcore drugs.

I think legalizing pot has mainly opened up a whole new market that can be more competitive for growers here in the US. It's still illegal for marijuana to come from Mexico. It will still keep coming but, if I were selling it, I'd rather just go get it from a local grower and buy it from there.

At least that way you can see what's growing, how it's handled, and no one is getting killed trying to carry it on their backs across the desert.

The sad thing is, it probably won't create a lot of new jobs for legal citizens. The growers will soon realize they can hire illegals to grow and harvest the crops.. and a lot of them will already be experienced.

So, what have we gained from it all? Taxes.. More taxes to be collected and lost in governments programs that don't do any good.

Jun 21, 2014#31

Bison

Just living is the deadliest of all.
Everybody dies,..no exception, some young, some old,....but dead you go.:laughing:

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