Engine Interesting work around for Starting failure

[BlazNT]

The solenoid is USUALLY, a part of the mower itself, supplied from the manufacturer, so, now we need the mower model number (usually found under the seat,) most likely, if you've been using a 3 pole solenoid, that's all it needs.

I am not disagreeing with Boo I am just letting you know what I do. I replace all 3 pole solenoid with 4 pole and make a ground wire and hook it up. I find it the more reliable form of a ground.

 

[Boobala]

I am not disagreeing with Boo I am just letting you know what I do. I replace all 3 pole solenoid with 4 pole and make a ground wire and hook it up. I find it the more reliable form of a ground.

I'll agree with you on that ! you can pick up a ol Ford (fender mount type for around $8.00-$10.00 at an auto parts store,) AND .. they'e heavy-duty to boot !

 

[bertsmobile1]

The solenoid is USUALLY, a part of the mower itself, supplied from the manufacturer, so, now we need the mower model number (usually found under the seat,) most likely, if you've been using a 3 pole solenoid, that's all it needs.

I carry 2 solenoids.
A universal fit 3 pole & a universal fit 4 pole.
A solenoid is just a switch, nothing fancy or unique about them.
Stens, Rotary, Oregon & Prime Line all do universal solenoids.
I used to stock the prime line ones as they seemed to be better quality ( made in Brazil or Mexico ) but they exited Aust 4 years ago.
heavy duty ones like starter solenoids usually have diode or shunt in there so they won't work in the battery voltage is too low.

 

[DAMatson]

Good morning Boobala!

Unfortunately, the ID Tag under the seat was missing when I bought the mower, so with ILEngine's help, I've determined the closest model to what I actually have is:

Mower Model: 13A6672G129 (you can see that thread here)


Good morning BlazNT and Bertsmobile1!

Thank you for adding to the conversation! I can appreciate that a "solenoid is just a switch". I'll see about grabbing a Ford replacement so as to ensure it's more heavy-duty compared to a traditional MTD/Tecumseh replacement solenoid. Also, on that topic, I'll get a 4 Pole version, and just run a new lead to a freshly created grounding point. It appears that I'll spend around approximately $10 for the new 4 Pole solenoid.

If the current starter still spins freely when the ignition key is turned, does it sound like I can avoid replacing the entire starter? Personally, I'm hoping that I only need replace the bendix gear assembly. I don't know if I have a traditional starter or an opposed starter, so not sure what replacement kit to get.

Lastly, does anyone have a preferred source they'd like to recommend to buy the replacement gear kit, or even the solenoid?

Thank you all for your time and contributions in helping me resolve my latest adventure in small engine repair!

-David

 

[BlazNT]

https://www.amazon.com/DB-Electrical-STC5313-TECUMSEH-222-22017/dp/B01IFTLLCI

 

[Boobala]

Here's where to get a few manuals :

USE these numbers to fill in the form, I got the SERIAL number from another posting ( really doesn't matter in your case )

Model # 13A6672G129 .... Serial # 1E050B40171
http://manuals.mtdproducts.com/mtd/Public.do

get em ALL !

also here's a good parts place .. https://www.partstree.com/parts/mtd...or-2001-home-depot/electrical-over-head-valve

Other parts places :
(sjmparts,com) ... (ereplacementparts.com) ... (repairclinic.com) ... (equipatron.com) ... ( jasckssmallengines.com)
it pays to shop for prices .... DON'T forget S&H charges, some places have a flat rate charge ($9.95 @ sjmparts) for instance ...

 

[DAMatson]

Ok, finally had some good weather and got out to remove starter.

Big shock, it looks like the bendix gear is in great shape physically. It's metal, and barely worn.

I hooked it back onto the engine block and positive wire such that I could see the gear spin when I turned the key. It spins, but barely lifts upward to engage the large engine block gear during the spin process.

 

[Rivets]

The bendix is made up of two gears. One you see which engages the starter to the ring gear and the other, which you can’t see, drives the bendix up the starter shaft. This one is probably bad and then you replace the entire bendix.

 

[Boobala]

Found a lil info for ya, ... checkin the manual for your ENGINE, starter is item # 395 .. the P/N = 36795 from what I see
found MANY prices for complete starter but you may get by with just parts you will have to check YOUR starter..check through this info and go from there.....

....

https://www.partstree.com/parts/tec...cle-vertical-engine/engine-parts-list-ohv15a/

https://www.partstree.com/parts/tecumseh/carburetors/es12-1-36795/electric-starter/

http://www.barrettsmallengine.com/tecumseh/36795starter.html

https://www.partstree.com/parts/tec...5-tecumseh-electric-starter/electric-starter/

BE SURE to buy your parts from a reputable parts dealer , a previous posting names some..

 

[Boobala]

In case ya need it here's your engine repair Manual, starter info ( very little is on pg. 48 )

http://www.barrettsmallengine.com/manual/tecumsehoverheadvalvemanual.pdf