Hydro-Gear ZT 3100, 150 hours, service done at 75 hours. Right side is much slower. Tried to adjust, no luck.

[clubairth]

ILengine Thanks for the help!

We received the parts but it looks like Hydro-Gear changed the brake mechanism and the center section is different and won't work for our Hydro?
Old one in back with the loop. New one in front with just a block?




Here is the back side of the center section giving a different view of the brake setup.



We noticed that the original was marked with an R1 and the new one marked with R8? Perhaps revision numbers? Hard to see the R1 on the original. Also notice the R8 version has a machined round hole with a channel just above the R8. On the original the round hole is just a rough casting with no channel?



Even the piston pump is different because of the brake pawl change. The new one has channels machined in the body (Inside the plastic bag) for the brake pawl to engage. The original one is smooth with no cut outs?



Casting numbers might help? Here is the new part.




Here is the original part. It's in a different spot too?



The rubber/plastic covers on the center section seem to be different?
Here is a comparison. New ones are flush with the surface but the old ones stick up somewhat?



No problem sending the parts back but we are unsure what to order next?
Any help?
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[ILENGINE]

Startech I am helping a friend and we are looking for a replacement ZT-3200 #ZL-GCEE-1K5A-1EXX.
Right wheel motor for a old Hustler Mini-Z Model #06050615.

Thanks for your quick and expert reply. That is expensive but probably the best way to go for a home guy. Looking at the number I see ZL-GCEE-3K5A-1NXX? Maybe a typo SK5A?

Sorry one more question? Do you have a preferred supplier? One you have dealt with before?
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OK here is the qlitch. The number that you listed in the first quoted post falls under the brake center section improvement and in those cases the entire unit has to be replaced. The parts numbers I listed are for the second quoted post

 

[clubairth]

Wow complete replacement only for that style of braking system then?
OK so many details!
Thanks again for your detailed answers. Not what we wanted to hear but that's the breaks. So to speak!!
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[clubairth]

ILengine or Startech where do you recommend to buy a complete unit?
From what's been posted we need part ZL-GCEE-3K5A-1NXX?

Looking at that number I find a superseded one? Is that correct? It's the part number Startech posted up thread as the superseded number.
ZL-GCEE-SK5A-1NXX

ZT-3100 Hydro​

Just double checking so I don't order the wrong thing. We do have a local lawn mower shop who is a Hydro-Gear dealer but talking to him does give me any confidence? Not sure he even knows what he is doing? They just want to sell new machines and have little interest in support or service? So very hesitant to have them do the work warranty or no warranty?

Another big problem using the dealer is transportation as the mower has the hydro removed and it was locked anyway so very difficult to move the mower on to the trailer. Need a fork lift to load it!

I think if we DIY it the results will be better.
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[ILENGINE]

Looks like then ZL-GCEE-1K5A-1EXX and the ZL-GCEE-3K5A-1NXX are both superceding to the ZL-GCEE-SK5A-1NXX

 

[bertsmobile1]

Mulligans have always been my go to for transmission problems .
Make sure you have all of the machine & transmission numbers at hand when you ring them
They take a long time to answer the phone but have always been honest and one can not ask for more than that .

 

[clubairth]

Thanks much as I was unaware of Mulligans!
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[clubairth]

Much time has passed and many problems getting the correct hydro! After sending the wrong ones back finally got what looks like the correct one. It was a battle!

Installed it but now have the brake lever locked solid and will not move? The other side is easily moved by hand?



Now they have changed that arm and bracket as well? The new one has only one small hole and the old arm is a two piece affair with 2 small screws holding it together. Now has a circle clip and not the old sheet metal style clip to retain the arm. The arm is keyed and can be installed in one of four positions spaced 90 degree's apart. This is another problem as you can't install the arm to match how it's orientated on the other side?

Does something need to be done so this lever will move by hand? Don't want to force anything as it's brand new and about $1000 in cost and it's under warranty.

Does it need to be sent back to Hydro gear because this brake lever is locked?
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