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Get out of here Mulberry

Aug 28, 2013#1

reynoldston

Looks like some more junk coming our way with chendshoome and his mulbeery junk

Aug 28, 2013#2

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sgmgarden

I agree, its rather annoying

Aug 28, 2013#3

Ric

Ok I removed all his threads of spam, would you like to see him go away also???:smile:

Aug 28, 2013#4

lawn mower fanatic

Just deleted 5 threads from "chendShoome" and banned him.

Aug 28, 2013#5

exotion

They both deleted them. So who really deleted ric or lmf. We got our self a mystery

Aug 28, 2013#6

lawn mower fanatic

exotion said:
They both deleted them. So who really deleted ric or lmf. We got our self a mystery

I deleted 5 posts from him that were all from around 5:30pm.

Aug 28, 2013#7

Carscw

I am not saying anyone is lying but someone here is telling a story.

Now if you read ric post do you want me to make him gone? And no one said yes

(( cowboy up and get over it ))

Aug 28, 2013#8

Ric

Actually I deleted 7 Threads and one Album around 2:30pm and I asked then if any one would you like to see him go away also and as Carscw said nobody answered so I didn't remove him.

Aug 28, 2013#9

exotion

Ric said:
Actually I deleted 7 Threads and one Album around 2:30pm and I asked then if any one would you like to see him go away also and as Carscw said nobody answered so I didn't remove him.

Lol

either way another annoying spammer gone. Now if they would try to sell something good like snap-on or mac tools that would be fun but purses really? On a lawn mower website? What is our ratio of men to women on here anyway. And how many men on here carry murses?

Aug 28, 2013#10

Ric

lawn mower fanatic said:
I deleted 5 posts from him that were all from around 5:30pm.

Yeah he is banned, to bad chendshoom is still Logged on the forum. :ban:

Aug 28, 2013#11

lawn mower fanatic

Ric said:
Yeah he is banned, to bad chendshoom is still Logged on the forum. :ban:

Yeah I know! :confused2:

Aug 28, 2013#12

Carscw

SMH

(( cowboy up and get over it ))

Aug 28, 2013#13

exotion

Carscw said:
SMH

(( cowboy up and get over it ))

Smh? What does that mean?

Aug 28, 2013#14

Carscw

exotion said:
Smh? What does that mean?

Shaking my head

(( cowboy up and get over it ))

Aug 28, 2013#15

exotion

Lol this forum is full of information. And information seekers

Aug 28, 2013#16

Ric

Carscw said:
Shaking my head

(( cowboy up and get over it ))

Now why would you be shaking your head???:smile:

Aug 28, 2013#17

Carscw

Ric said:
Now why would you be shaking your head???:smile:

My wife and I run a Facebook page and she tells me she banned someone and their still on the page. Just like LMF said he banned them but they are still here. I believe they both think they did

(( cowboy up and get over it ))

Aug 29, 2013#18

Ric

Well so much for banning Mulberry, this time there messages / spam every where. 11 different places and postings so far and I have to go get ready to mow some lawns.

Aug 29, 2013#19

reynoldston

Ric said:
Ok I removed all his threads of spam, would you like to see him go away also???:smile:

If this will make him go away you got a yes vote from me.

Aug 29, 2013#20

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sgmgarden

I vote yes to get rid of him too. I also notice theres another spammer, mussbay or mossbay?

Aug 29, 2013#21

Ric

sgmgarden said:
I vote yes to get rid of him too. I also notice theres another spammer, mussbay or mossbay?

Ok all eleven post are gone and he has been banned but he will most likely be back tomorrow.

Aug 29, 2013#22

Ric

hoa.hoa251 has also had his post removed and is banned. if you look at the currently active users list you'll find that he is still there along with the others listed in red. Some are banned some are not but the ones that are not banned haven't posted as of yet so there's nothing we can do about them. I know people look at us as moderators and think we can take care of about anything that comes up but in reality we are very very limited as to what we can do so plese keep that in mind the next time someone says we are not doing our job here as moderators.

There are currently 1252 users online. 80 members and 1172 guests
Most users ever online was 2,563, 05-13-2013 at 10:04 PM.

Aug 30, 2013#23

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buzzzmeister

Ric said:
hoa.hoa251 has also had his post removed and is banned. if you look at the currently active users list you'll find that he is still there along with the others listed in red. Some are banned some are not but the ones that are not banned haven't posted as of yet so there's nothing we can do about them. I know people look at us as moderators and think we can take care of about anything that comes up but in reality we are very very limited as to what we can do so plese keep that in mind the next time someone says we are not doing our job here as moderators.

There's a few things you (LMF) can do. Where are most of the spam and potential spam accounts joining from, China? Vietnam? If you block anything and everything .cn or .vn you'll probably eliminate 90% of the problem. Whole country host & IP bans are easy enough to do.

As for the accounts that join and they haven't posted and if you know or have a very strong suspicion they're spam accounts, put them on a 2 week administrative hold with an email address to contact. If they log in within those 14 days and make no attempt to make contact, permaban the account. Period. I can guarantee you they'll be back on the 15th day or in 15 weeks or in 15 months to do their thing. They always come back.

You guys report (ip/email/username) to SFS? If not, do so. Even if there's no reportable evidence for SFS (post spam, signature spam, link spam, hidden spam, etc.), in the evidence box, report that the account was caught in the LMF honeypot. 'Tis all you need to report for evidence but make damn sure (Google and SFS searches are your friends) said spammer has been previously reported. This is also a good thing to do before the administrative hold accounts are permabanned. Check on SFS, if they've been reported, re-report. You have 14 days to report to SFS.

Spam can be beat down to where its an amusing thing to toy with on a rainy day. You just have to work at it 24/7. EVERY new account needs to have the IP and at least the email addy run through the SFS database. If you had a spam account get through its because it wasn't previously reported. Spam accounts don't report themselves. The only way SFS works is if everything is reported and asap. Report, report, report. I have roughly 1000 new members sign up every month on my forum. Every new account gets a background check within 24 hours. I went from perhaps 15% spam accounts a couple of years ago to 3-5 spam accounts/month. It can be beat. Once you get blacklisted on Xrumer then spammers pretty much leave you alone. :laughing:

Aug 30, 2013#24

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JSB33

You should be able to do a IP ban very easily. You can also ban by email. And as suggested above, simply blocking and registration from .cn can do wonders to keep the spam away. If a legitimate member from China wants to join, they can always sens an email. I have used this method on my forum for years.

Aug 30, 2013#25

Ric

buzzzmeister said:
There's a few things you (LMF) can do. Where are most of the spam and potential spam accounts joining from, China? Vietnam? If you block anything and everything .cn or .vn you'll probably eliminate 90% of the problem. Whole country host & IP bans are easy enough to do.

As for the accounts that join and they haven't posted and if you know or have a very strong suspicion they're spam accounts, put them on a 2 week administrative hold with an email address to contact. If they log in within those 14 days and make no attempt to make contact, permaban the account. Period. I can guarantee you they'll be back on the 15th day or in 15 weeks or in 15 months to do their thing. They always come back.

You guys report (ip/email/username) to SFS? If not, do so. Even if there's no reportable evidence for SFS (post spam, signature spam, link spam, hidden spam, etc.), in the evidence box, report that the account was caught in the LMF honeypot. 'Tis all you need to report for evidence but make damn sure (Google and SFS searches are your friends) said spammer has been previously reported. This is also a good thing to do before the administrative hold accounts are permabanned. Check on SFS, if they've been reported, re-report. You have 14 days to report to SFS.

Spam can be beat down to where its an amusing thing to toy with on a rainy day. You just have to work at it 24/7. EVERY new account needs to have the IP and at least the email addy run through the SFS database. If you had a spam account get through its because it wasn't previously reported. Spam accounts don't report themselves. The only way SFS works is if everything is reported and asap. Report, report, report. I have roughly 1000 new members sign up every month on my forum. Every new account gets a background check within 24 hours. I went from perhaps 15% spam accounts a couple of years ago to 3-5 spam accounts/month. It can be beat. Once you get blacklisted on Xrumer then spammers pretty much leave you alone. :laughing:

JSB33 said:
You should be able to do a IP ban very easily. You can also ban by email. And as suggested above, simply blocking and registration from .cn can do wonders to keep the spam away. If a legitimate member from China wants to join, they can always sens an email. I have used this method on my forum for years.

Your not telling me anything I don't know, I'm the Administrator of several other forums. The problem is I can't use the IP address/ email here to ban a member. As moderators and using the moderator control panel we don't have access to use those. Moderators can permanently ban members using there usernames only, to be done using anything else has to apparently has to come from the administrative level. LMF and myself are doing the best we can do with what we have.

Aug 30, 2013#26

lawn mower fanatic

Ric said:
Your not telling me anything I don't know, I'm the Administrator of several other forums. The problem is I can't use the IP address/ email here to ban a member. As moderators and using the moderator control panel we don't have access to use those. Moderators can permanently ban members using there usernames only, to be done using anything else has to apparently has to come from the administrative level. LMF and myself are doing the best we can do with what we have.

Yep, Ric's right!

Aug 30, 2013#27

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buzzzmeister

Ric said:
Your not telling me anything I don't know, I'm the Administrator of several other forums. The problem is I can't use the IP address/ email here to ban a member. As moderators and using the moderator control panel we don't have access to use those. Moderators can permanently ban members using there usernames only, to be done using anything else has to apparently has to come from the administrative level. LMF and myself are doing the best we can do with what we have.

No 'supermod' option in the forum software? Its a pothole filled road if mods have to ban by username only without having at least the option to see where the member hails from.

I've got things set up with my 2 most Sr. moderators with supermod power and they have the ability to ban using username, email or in the very rare case with a couple (or more) accounts popping up with the same IP, to ban all or selectively prune by IP. Makes life much easier for everyone when there's multiple avenues of attack. vB 4.x.x.

Aug 30, 2013#28

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buzzzmeister

JSB33 said:
legitimate member from China

There is no such thing. :laughing:

Aug 30, 2013#29

lawn mower fanatic

buzzzmeister said:
No 'supermod' option in the forum software? Its a pothole filled road if mods have to ban by username only without having at least the option to see where the member hails from.

I've got things set up with my 2 most Sr. moderators with supermod power and they have the ability to ban using username, email or in the very rare case with a couple (or more) accounts popping up with the same IP, to ban all or selectively prune by IP. Makes life much easier for everyone when there's multiple avenues of attack. vB 4.x.x.

I looked in the Moderator view of my (and Ric's) profile pages. Apparently we are already considered super moderators. :confused2:

Aug 30, 2013#30

txzrider

This is an interesting thread, but I think it misses the opportunity to discuss what is really going on with much of the spam I have seen here. Most of it is nonsense text with hidden urls as part of the text, whose sole purpose in many cases is to deliver drive by malware! google moneypack virus(or fbi virus) to see and example. Many of the users on these forums are not IT people and might not recognise the risk for what it is. Getting rid of the spam is the best thing however once it is on the forum and starting to get read... then the risk rises.

Aug 30, 2013#31

exotion

txzrider said:
This is an interesting thread, but I think it misses the opportunity to discuss what is really going on with much of the spam I have seen here. Most of it is nonsense text with hidden urls as part of the text, whose sole purpose in many cases is to deliver drive by malware! google moneypack virus(or fbi virus) to see and example. Many of the users on these forums are not IT people and might not recognise the risk for what it is. Getting rid of the spam is the best thing however once it is on the forum and starting to get read... then the risk rises.

My laptop has had the money pack virus twice... you can't actually get rid of it anything short of a full wipe of hard disk and reinstall of windows

Aug 30, 2013#32

txzrider

Try malwarebytes, I used it on my sons laptop and it worked. I was never able to find all the registry settings that all the how to fix sites list... but malwarebytes worked.

Aug 30, 2013#33

djdicetn

txzrider said:
Try malwarebytes, I used it on my sons laptop and it worked. I was never able to find all the registry settings that all the how to fix sites list... but malwarebytes worked.

Most times I am on here, it is at work(TN Dept. Of Treasury) and believe me when your network has the responsibility for every penny of State government dollars(incoming/outgoing) our Windows desktops have leading edge malware/firewall technology that even protects my individual workstation from being "compromised". After going through several Windows PC products at home(McAffee, Norton, Trend Micro, Kapersky) as well as additional layers of freeware, like Malwarebytes, Ad-Aware, SpyBot, etc. I finally bit the bullet last May(when my circa 2005 Compaq Presario finally bit the dust..."something" wiped out the bios) and bought a "real computer"(2012 iMac with Mountain Lion and 24GB of memory). Between strong passwords for user accounts, OSX firewall, no Auto Login, FileVault and external drive encryption I feel pretty protected from the knarly stuff hackers have at their disposal. After 42 years specializing in mainframe support/technology(btw Mainframe and UNIX rarely, if ever, have unathorized access) I simply feel sorry for hackers that with their skillset cannot find an occupation that is actually a "contribution" to society rather than a burden on it:0(

Aug 30, 2013#34

exotion

djdicetn said:
Most times I am on here, it is at work(TN Dept. Of Treasury) and believe me when your network has the responsibility for every penny of State government dollars(incoming/outgoing) our Windows desktops have leading edge malware/firewall technology that even protects my individual workstation from being "compromised". After going through several Windows PC products at home(McAffee, Norton, Trend Micro, Kapersky) as well as additional layers of freeware, like Malwarebytes, Ad-Aware, SpyBot, etc. I finally bit the bullet last May(when my circa 2005 Compaq Presario finally bit the dust..."something" wiped out the bios) and bought a "real computer"(2012 iMac with Mountain Lion and 24GB of memory). Between strong passwords for user accounts, OSX firewall, no Auto Login, FileVault and external drive encryption I feel pretty protected from the knarly stuff hackers have at their disposal. After 42 years specializing in mainframe support/technology(btw Mainframe and UNIX rarely, if ever, have unathorized access) I simply feel sorry for hackers that with their skillset cannot find an occupation that is actually a "contribution" to society rather than a burden on it:0(

Ha.. back when I was good with computer code mostly c++ and c# and html this was when win 98 was still newish

for my middle school tech final I rewrote win95 I found out windows has a line of code in it where it purposefully loses memory something like 500k a day. And was doomed to fail after 5 years. So I rewrote it burned it to a disk and put it on my (now rly old) compaq laptop and amazingly with no virus protection and annual formatting reinstalling my win95 we have no problems and still use it for basic web stuff.

My point is there is no "real" computer just like lawn mowers your computer needs maintenance. Delete cookies and temp files weekly. Defrag monthly. Keep your recycle bin empty. Keep your start up folder as empty as possible. Kill useless background programs.

Most importantly never I repeat never have any virus program that runs full time on your computer. They drain your memory slow your computer and by definition are themselves viruses.

Aug 30, 2013#35

Carscw

djdicetn said:
Most times I am on here, it is at work(TN Dept. Of Treasury) and believe me when your network has the responsibility for every penny of State government dollars(incoming/outgoing) our Windows desktops have leading edge malware/firewall technology that even protects my individual workstation from being "compromised". After going through several Windows PC products at home(McAffee, Norton, Trend Micro, Kapersky) as well as additional layers of freeware, like Malwarebytes, Ad-Aware, SpyBot, etc. I finally bit the bullet last May(when my circa 2005 Compaq Presario finally bit the dust..."something" wiped out the bios) and bought a "real computer"(2012 iMac with Mountain Lion and 24GB of memory). Between strong passwords for user accounts, OSX firewall, no Auto Login, FileVault and external drive encryption I feel pretty protected from the knarly stuff hackers have at their disposal. After 42 years specializing in mainframe support/technology(btw Mainframe and UNIX rarely, if ever, have unathorized access) I simply feel sorry for hackers that with their skillset cannot find an occupation that is actually a "contribution" to society rather than a burden on it:0(

What?

Not that I need to know but I have no clue what your talking about.

Have not touched a pc in over 5 years

(( cowboy up and get over it ))

Aug 30, 2013#36

txzrider

I dont think I have ever described apples mac line of computers as real computers, implying the rest are not. Apply certainly does many things right with it, enforcing sudo and setting the defaults to be much more secure... windoz could be that way and Microsux likes to think it is.. but until they stop letting the default user be admin with full admin rights... that ain't gonna happen. I have been a unix admin now for 25 plus year haveing started in mf and then mini's... so I understand what you mean completely. The 1st thing I tell anyone who asks me to fix their kids computer that is virus ridden... is create a new user for him w/o admin rights, and then change the user with admin rights to a pw that only you the parent knows... and never tell your kid! When my sons lt was hit with the money pak virus, while his user kept displaying the ransomeware... if I rebooted as admin... no problems at all. This allowed me to fix his login.

Aug 30, 2013#37

djdicetn

Carscw said:
What?

Not that I need to know but I have no clue what your talking about.

Have not touched a pc in over 5 years

(( cowboy up and get over it ))

Sooooo, R U hacking into the forums on your smart phone:0)

Aug 30, 2013#38

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buzzzmeister

txzrider said:
This is an interesting thread, but I think it misses the opportunity to discuss what is really going on with much of the spam I have seen here. Most of it is nonsense text with hidden urls as part of the text, whose sole purpose in many cases is to deliver drive by malware! google moneypack virus(or fbi virus) to see and example. Many of the users on these forums are not IT people and might not recognise the risk for what it is. Getting rid of the spam is the best thing however once it is on the forum and starting to get read... then the risk rises.

Oh yeah, rule number one of a spam post - Never, never, ever click the link. And if checking out the member's account, never click the website link. Or the signature.

And beware of the.hidden stuff (like this last sentence).

And just because, here's the obvious stuff from yesterday:

http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/members/tienlixitienquocte2014.html
http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/members/tonydoan03.html
http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/members/willngo0301.html
http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/members/ppmsgn0310.html
http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/members/minhl311.html
http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/members/tienquocte_sacom123.html

Probably all Vietnamese. The Viet MO is to usually always put in a birth date & an age and a 'fairly local' time zone (if you could see the back side of the account info).

Aug 30, 2013#39

djdicetn

buzzzmeister said:
Oh yeah, rule number one of a spam post - Never, never, ever click the link. And if checking out the member's account, never click the website link. Or the signature.

And beware of the.hidden stuff (like this last sentence).

Good advice!!! I won't even click on a link I receive in an email from "someone I know" until I contact them first. It's too easy to have your email address hacked nowadays(especially if you use a hotmail, gmail, etc. account).

Aug 30, 2013#40

Carscw

djdicetn said:
Sooooo, R U hacking into the forums on your smart phone:0)

The iPhone app for this group is very good.
Very easy to use and no ads.

Was telling LMF yesterday I would look at the forum in my browser but I forgot my password over a year ago

(( cowboy up and get over it ))

Aug 30, 2013#41

exotion

djdicetn said:
Sooooo, R U hacking into the forums on your smart phone:0)

There is a lawn mower forum app.... this is what I use. It barely loads images but it works good for me.

Aug 30, 2013#42

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buzzzmeister

djdicetn said:
Good advice!!! I won't even click on a link I receive in an email from "someone I know" until I contact them first. It's too easy to have your email address hacked nowadays(especially if you use a hotmail, gmail, etc. account).

Chances are that if you have a hotmail, gmail, etc. account your email addy already is hacked. I see & deal with it nearly every day. Many forums no longer allow registration email addies from the 'Big 3.' (gmail, hotmail,yahoo)

Aug 30, 2013#43

lawn mower fanatic

buzzzmeister said:
Oh yeah, rule number one of a spam post - Never, never, ever click the link. And if checking out the member's account, never click the website link. Or the signature.

And beware of the.hidden stuff (like this last sentence).

And just because, here's the obvious stuff from yesterday:

View Profile: tienlixitienquocte2014 - Lawn Mower Forum
View Profile: tonydoan03 - Lawn Mower Forum
View Profile: willngo0301 - Lawn Mower Forum
View Profile: ppmsgn0310 - Lawn Mower Forum
View Profile: minhl311 - Lawn Mower Forum
View Profile: tienquocte_sacom123 - Lawn Mower Forum

Probably all Vietnamese. The Viet MO is to usually always put in a birth date & an age and a 'fairly local' time zone (if you could see the back side of the account info).

All banned. :banned: You are right about the birthday and time zone!! :confused2:

Aug 30, 2013#44

djdicetn

exotion said:
There is a lawn mower forum app.... this is what I use. It barely loads images but it works good for me.

Gotcha.....home computers are going more and more towards detachable "tablet design" rather than desktop(although I went with the "all in one" design iMac). I do have an iPad though(I use it for when we go RV'ing since it's so small & portable) so I may have to check out the LMF app in iTunes:0)

Aug 30, 2013#45

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buzzzmeister

lawn mower fanatic said:
You are right about the birthday and time zone!! :confused2:

I know I am. :tongue:

Every country/region has its own way and that's what I've mostly found with Vietspam. Its probably just one local botnet with whatever version of Xrumer forum spamming software.

Aug 30, 2013#46

Carscw

exotion said:
There is a lawn mower forum app.... this is what I use. It barely loads images but it works good for me.

You must have a droid? I couple guys I know on here have droids and say the same thing about the pics not loading fast.

(( cowboy up and get over it ))

Aug 30, 2013#47

exotion

Carscw said:
You must have a droid? I couple guys I know on here have droids and say the same thing about the pics not loading fast.

(( cowboy up and get over it ))

Ya its a droid. About 75percent of pics don't ever load

if there are pics I want to see I have to clear image cache and hope for the best

Aug 30, 2013#48

Ric

THIS

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