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B&S not starting (EBSXS.7242VA)

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PersonalJester

Hi there

Am trying to start my Alko mower without any luck.

The place where I bought it are closed due to pandemic, so cannot contact them for advice.

It uses a B&S EBSXS.7242VA. It turns over but no sign at all of firing.

I have tested/tried:
Fuel tank has fuel!
Plugs are clean
Plugs spark when turned over
Good supply of fuel to pipe into carb
Air filter new

I suspect no fuel through carb. Is there a way I can squirt some fuel directly into carb\engine to prove it?
Is there a float chamber on this engine? Maybe the float needle valve stuck?

Any help appreciated.

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#2

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Rivets

Look on the valve cover for model, type and code numbers for this engine. The decal you posted is just an EPA sticker and doesn’t help much.


#3

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PersonalJester

You beat me to it!
Model: 40R777
Type: 0001B1
Code: 140715YG

Plate photo is attached.

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#4

dougand3

dougand3

Remove air filter and try a squirt of fuel directly into carb throat. ~ tbl spoon amount. If it pops and runs for 2-3 secs = fuel delivery/carb problem.


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PersonalJester

You have confirmed what I thought I might be able to try, good to get confirmation that can be done.

I'll give it a go.


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crabjoe

I've got a problem with the same exact motor.

Mine seems to be a fuel delivery issue but might be compression. I originally tried sucking on the vacuum side of the fuel pump and nothing, so I just replaced it. I was able to suck some fuel into the filter. There were few cracks in the vacuum line so I used some electrical tape to try and seal the vacuum line.

When I crank the motor, the filter fills up slowly with fuel, but there the pump doesn't seem to be able to pull enough to get the fuel to flow out of the pump.

Anyone know what the part number is for the vacuum line? Can I jerry rig something to see if it's the vac line? I really need to get my lawn mowed.

I may have other issues too. I tried putting some starter fluid down the air intake and it wouldn't light. I also tried squirting a bit in each cylinder and still not.. Just cranks and won't light. I know it's getting spark, because that I checked.

BTW, anyone know what the compression of this engine should be? Can't test it yet, but I've got a tester on the way.

Thanks!


#7

StarTech

StarTech

596163 HOSE, Vacuum -Used Before Code Date 19091800
593641 HOSE, Vacuum -Used After Code Date 19091700


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PersonalJester

Thought I would give an update on this problem.

I put a spoonful of petrol in the air intake. It fired, spluttered, but kept going. I expected it to stop after it had used up this small amount of fuel but it kept going.

It has worked fine ever since. I guess the petrol in the carb over the Winter evaporated, left some nasties behind. By injecting a little fuel and starting it blow the nasties out.


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crabjoe

596163 HOSE, Vacuum -Used Before Code Date 19091800
593641 HOSE, Vacuum -Used After Code Date 19091700

Where is this date date code? There's something called CODE:140801YG
I seems the actual model number on my engine is 44R877

The pic of part 596163 looks like the correct hose. My problem is I can't find a pic of 593641 to see if it's something similar but slight a different length.

Thank you


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crabjoe

Thought I would give an update on this problem.

I put a spoonful of petrol in the air intake. It fired, spluttered, but kept going. I expected it to stop after it had used up this small amount of fuel but it kept going.

It has worked fine ever since. I guess the petrol in the carb over the Winter evaporated, left some nasties behind. By injecting a little fuel and starting it blow the nasties out.

Similar thing happened to me at the beginning of last year. When I went to start it, it just cranked. I squirted some starter fluid into the air intake then it fired and kept running.

I thought I had the same issue this year, but apparently, it's something different.


#11

dougand3

dougand3

Where is this date date code? There's something called CODE:140801YG
that's it - 2014 Aug 1st


#12

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bertsmobile1

Yes


#13

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crabjoe

Ok.. Went and picked up a new vacuum hose. They didn't have the right one, so I took what they had, and it worked! Cranked the motor an gas flowed. Hooked the line back to the carb, cranked and it fired up.. Let it run for about 5 mins then went to mow...

engaged the bladed and mowed about 25 feet and it stalled. Restated and went to engage the blade, Engaging the blades makes it stall out. Not right away and it didn't make any difference if I was cutting grass or it was just sitting still.. Weirdest thing it would spin up the blades then the rpms would drop and if I didn't disengage the blades, would stall. I had to get the grass cut...

My plan was to engage then disengage to try and mow the law.. After about 20 mins of this I got to a spot where the grass was thick and tall. It stalled out. I cleared the grass out of the blade and restarted. This time the engine didn't stall. It kept the blades spinning.. The engine chocking on the thick grass somehow fixed the stalling when blades engaged problem. I don't know how, but it sure made my life easier.

Can anyone tell me what might have caused the engine to stall, at time when the blades were engage? The engine sounded like it was at full power and it was weird as can be.. At times it would cause the engine to rev up and down a few times before it would stall. A couple time when it did this, I heard a clank sound.


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bertsmobile1

sounds very much like your governor has slipped so when a load is put on the engine it does not allow the throttle to open further to give the engine more power.


#15

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crabjoe

sounds very much like your governor has slipped so when a load is put on the engine it does not allow the throttle to open further to give the engine more power.

That might be it, but what I find was weird was the engine didn't bog down and stall like I was in thick grass.

You know how a motor's sound changes when you engage/disengage the blades. When it would die, even with the bladed engaged, the sound changed like the blades got disengaged, then the rpms dropped slowly, till it died.

It was just weird.. then it was weird when it fixed itself. I think I've got gremlins in this mower.


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