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Dec 31, 2013#1

Mike88se

Found a Harmony 215 5.0(?) mower on CL along w/ a Ryobi trimmer and attachments thrown in. I was looking at the pic of the mower and it was one of those "whats wrong with this picture" pics

Let me show you the pic and later I'll tell you what the seller told me when I asked about what I saw.

Dec 31, 2013#2

davbell22602

Different size wheels on front and back?

Jan 1, 2014#3

Carscw

How do you start it or check the oil?

Jan 1, 2014#4

Mike88se

davbell22602 said:
Different size wheels on front and back?

I don't think they are different sized. Anyway... Look at the right hand side of the deck. See something missing? Yep there is part of the deck missing

I asked her if there was a hole or crack in the deck. She said yep there's a hole, thats where the grass comes out lol. Turns out her ex cut the deck for side discharge. Seems like that's got to mess with the function of the deck design. Also the pull cord is broken. I could probably find a way to start it but I'm not sure I want to drive the 50 miles to find out. It might be a good deal yet if I knew I could find a buyer for that Ryobi trimmer and attachments.
I'd buy that Kubota if the seller comes down a little on the price and there's nothing wrong with the internals.

Carscw said:
How do you start it or check the oil?

Yep starting it w/o a pull cord might be a problem

All the Hondas I've had use a dip stick built into the filler cap. I think I see what you're seeing though and I can't make out what it is or why it's there.

Jan 1, 2014#5

Carscw

Did not notice the deck. OMG

Jan 1, 2014#6

exotion

Also the zip ties on the door ?

Jan 1, 2014#7

bwdbrn1

Oil fill tube looks like it isn't in place as it should be. Given the issues with the mower, I'd be suspect of the Ryobi too.

Jan 1, 2014#8

reynoldston

I wouldn't want that mower if it was free.

Jan 1, 2014#9

Mike88se

reynoldston said:
I wouldn't want that mower if it was free.

I wouldn't go that far

I'd take it if it was free and nearby. But yeah... I'm gonna pass on the deal.

Jan 1, 2014#10

reynoldston

Mike88se said:
I wouldn't go that far I'd take it if it was free and nearby. But yeah... I'm gonna pass on the deal.

I think I got into this a little earlier . One mans junk is the next mans treasure. To me its junk.

Jan 2, 2014#11

wjjones

reynoldston said:
I think I got into this a little earlier . One mans junk is the next mans treasure. To me its junk.

But if the engine runs the engine alone is worth ?? Sometimes the gamble deals are the best ones.

Jan 2, 2014#12

exotion

wjjones said:
But if the engine runs the engine alone is worth ?? Sometimes the gamble deals are the best ones.

If the rest of the machine is jimmy rigged chances are the motor might be to ...

Jan 2, 2014#13

reynoldston

wjjones said:
But if the engine runs the engine alone is worth ?? Sometimes the gamble deals are the best ones.

Now that is what salvage yards are for. They need to make money also. I don't own or run a salvage yard, but I do buy parts from them and very thankful for them. I find they charge around haft the cost of new and I have had very good luck buying from them.

Jan 2, 2014#14

Mike88se

wjjones said:
But if the engine runs the engine alone is worth ?? Sometimes the gamble deals are the best ones.

Yes and if it was free and she dropped it off at my door it wouldn't be a gamble

I think the pull cord is all that's wrong with the starter and I could start it with a drill to check the engine and drive system but I'm not driving 50 miles for that. That would be a gamble. Pass

I thought the ex cutting a hole in the deck was the interesting part.

Jan 4, 2014#15

wjjones

exotion said:
If the rest of the machine is jimmy rigged chances are the motor might be to ...

Good point.

Jan 5, 2014#16

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Jan 5, 2014#17

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Jan 12, 2014#18

Mike88se

I did buy the Honda

Saturday night... poker night :biggrin:
So I gambled. Brought it home and jacked around a while and then went out to the garage. Tied the 2 pieces of broken pull cord together and gave it a few yanks. Nothing. Pulled the plug and checked spark. Great spark. Best spark I ever saw. Honda must make great coils :thumbsup:
Pulled the carb and cleaned it best I could with the little bit of cleaner I had. Still nothing. Pulled the carb again and double checked everything. Nothing. The gas looked clear and smelled fine but I drained it and put in some fresh. Fired right up. Runs like a top. All the levers work. Blade brake works. Hydrostatic drive is strong. Faster than any Honda I had before. Blades are dull and probably need to be replaced later. Oh and it's quiet.
Now what to do about that hole. JB Weld for the cracks he caused cutting it? Screen and fiberglass?
I'm hoping the Ryobi trimmer and edger attachment might sell for what I paid for the package and I get a free mower :smile:

Jan 12, 2014#19

lawn mower fanatic

Re: I did buy the Honda

Mike88se said:
Saturday night... poker night :biggrin:
So I gambled. Brought it home and jacked around a while and then went out to the garage. Tied the 2 pieces of broken pull cord together and gave it a few yanks. Nothing. Pulled the plug and checked spark. Great spark. Best spark I ever saw. Honda must make great coils :thumbsup:
Pulled the carb and cleaned it best I could with the little bit of cleaner I had. Still nothing. Pulled the carb again and double checked everything. Nothing. The gas looked clear and smelled fine but I drained it and put in some fresh. Fired right up. Runs like a top. All the levers work. Blade brake works. Hydrostatic drive is strong. Faster than any Honda I had before. Blades are dull and probably need to be replaced later. Oh and it's quiet.
Now what to do about that hole. JB Weld for the cracks he caused cutting it? Screen and fiberglass?
I'm hoping the Ryobi trimmer and edger attachment might sell for what I paid for the package and I get a free mower :smile:

Might be a good deal! :thumbsup:

Jan 12, 2014#20

mowerman1999

Mike88se said:
Saturday night... poker night :biggrin:
So I gambled. Brought it home and jacked around a while and then went out to the garage. Tied the 2 pieces of broken pull cord together and gave it a few yanks. Nothing. Pulled the plug and checked spark. Great spark. Best spark I ever saw. Honda must make great coils :thumbsup:
Pulled the carb and cleaned it best I could with the little bit of cleaner I had. Still nothing. Pulled the carb again and double checked everything. Nothing. The gas looked clear and smelled fine but I drained it and put in some fresh. Fired right up. Runs like a top. All the levers work. Blade brake works. Hydrostatic drive is strong. Faster than any Honda I had before. Blades are dull and probably need to be replaced later. Oh and it's quiet.
Now what to do about that hole. JB Weld for the cracks he caused cutting it? Screen and fiberglass?
I'm hoping the Ryobi trimmer and edger attachment might sell for what I paid for the package and I get a free mower :smile:

I would screen and fibre glass it bit thats just what I would do

Jan 15, 2014#21

wjjones

Re: I did buy the Honda

lawn mower fanatic said:
Might be a good deal! :thumbsup:

Yep as I said if the price is right its worth a gamble sometimes.

Jan 15, 2014#22

Mike88se

Re: I did buy the Honda

wjjones said:
Yep as I said if the price is right its worth a gamble sometimes.

If the fiberglass works and the trimmer/edger sells for $50 I'll be happy enough. Curious... are the Honda variable speed mowers faster than the 2 and 3 speeds?

Jan 15, 2014#23

lawn mower fanatic

Re: I did buy the Honda

Mike88se said:
...Curious... are the Honda variable speed mowers faster than the 2 and 3 speeds?

I know my older 3 speed Honda only goes up to 3 mph (if that anymore), but my newer Honda HRX with hydrostatic cruise control, along with all the HRX models, can go up to 4 mph. All of the HRR's with variable speed can go up to the same speed, around 4 mph....some 3.6.

Comparison:
Honda Power Equipment: Honda Generators, Lawn Mowers, Snow blowers, Tillers

Jan 25, 2014#24

jakewells

you should have bought it and parted it, i need that recoil.

Jan 25, 2014#25

Mike88se

jakewells said:
you should have bought it and parted it, i need that recoil.

I never did update this did I lol. I did buy the mower and trimmer for $50. The recoil is good but I need it for the mower
Now I need to post an update in the deal of the day thread.

Feb 21, 2014#26

Mike88se

Okay I take back everything bad I ever said about Honda ground speed. The hydrostatic variable speed mowers haul *** :thumbsup:

Mike88se said:
I never did update this did I lol. I did buy the mower and trimmer for $50. The recoil is good but I need it for the mower
Now I need to post an update in the deal of the day thread.

Feb 22, 2014#27

Mike88se

the other Honda needs wheelie bars

I put a new transmission cable and pinion gears and wheels on it. It's a speed demon

The wheels won't roll backwards tho. I'll have to double check to see what I did wrong.

Feb 22, 2014#28

exotion

Mike88se said:
I put a new transmission cable and pinion gears and wheels on it. It's a speed demon The wheels won't roll backwards tho. I'll have to double check to see what I did wrong.

Cable needs adjusted

Feb 22, 2014#29

Mike88se

exotion said:
Cable needs adjusted

Thanks buddy. I'm pretty sure you aren't talking about the top part. I've tried adjustments at the cable tension lock point near the lever.
Is there something on the transmission end? A return spring or something that could be stuck?

Feb 22, 2014#30

Lawnboy18

Mike88se said:
Thanks buddy. I'm pretty sure you aren't talking about the top part. I've tried adjustments at the cable tension lock point near the lever.
Is there something on the transmission end? A return spring or something that could be stuck?

Not sure how it is made on your mower, but on mine, in order to back up, if I let go of the bail it backs up. A spring desengages the tranny. If that spring is broken, the wheels jam up. Also, I have a spring tensioner on top to adjust the speeds and if it will back up.

Feb 22, 2014#31

Mike88se

Lawnboy18 said:
Not sure how it is made on your mower, but on mine, in order to back up, if I let go of the bail it backs up. A spring desengages the tranny. If that spring is broken, the wheels jam up. Also, I have a spring tensioner on top to adjust the speeds and if it will back up.

Thanks, I should check that spring. The tension adjustments on the control...the part with 2 10mm nuts? Thats been adjusted and even totally loosened with no effect. Its an HRB217 hxa hydrostatic. It should freewheel if the drive isn't engaged.

Feb 22, 2014#32

Lawnboy18

Mike88se said:
Thanks, I should check that spring. The tension adjustments on the control...the part with 2 10mm nuts? Thats been adjusted and even totally loosened with no effect. Its an HRB217 hxa hydrostatic. It should freewheel if the drive isn't engaged.

I have a big spring at the bottom. Kinda like a loop. Mine was jammed with grass. I own a YBravo tho, so it might be really different than a Honda mower. I have no Hydro trans.

Feb 22, 2014#33

exotion

No I meen the actual cable adjustment that's usually the cause of that problem for me usually takes a while to get just right

Feb 22, 2014#34

Mike88se

Lawnboy18 said:
I have a big spring at the bottom. Kinda like a loop. Mine was jammed with grass. I own a YBravo tho, so it might be really different than a Honda mower. I have no Hydro trans.

This one has a wound spring with the top going through a hole in the lever on the transmission. It looks fine. It snaps back when the bail is released. It's all clean. I looked at my 216 in comparison and it was filthy and grass cake... and working fine lol

exotion said:
No I meen the actual cable adjustment that's usually the cause of that problem for me usually takes a while to get just right

The tension? Where the two 10mm nuts are?

Feb 23, 2014#35

exotion

Mike88se said:
This one has a wound spring with the top going through a hole in the lever on the transmission. It looks fine. It snaps back when the bail is released. It's all clean. I looked at my 216 in comparison and it was filthy and grass cake... and working fine lol

The tension? Where the two 10mm nuts are?

Ya on the cable I think its two 10mm that's the cable adjustment usually when you replace the cable it takes a little tweaking and over time you need to adjust it once and a while as it ages

Feb 23, 2014#36

Mike88se

exotion said:
Ya on the cable I think its two 10mm that's the cable adjustment usually when you replace the cable it takes a little tweaking and over time you need to adjust it once and a while as it ages

Thanks but I've adjusted that every way from all the way in to all the way out and it made no difference. I even loosened it and let it hang slack and nothing. I need to retrace my steps and figure out what I did wrong. I installed a blade brake cable, the drive cable, pinion gears, and two new rear wheels. Thing is I've already checked and rechecked all of that.
I have to swap the engine... well everything over to a new deck because this one is cracked and I want to sell the mower.
I plastic welded the crack and I think it's good to go but buyers aren't going to like that.
The engine and handlebars will be easy. How hard is it to get the transmission out?
Maybe the wheel lockup will fix itself during the swap

Feb 23, 2014#37

exotion

Maybe it'll work it self out when you use it. My Honda did that when I replaced the belt took a few uses for it to work right seemed to fix itself. I would check the gears are installed right

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