2001 Scotts (JD) will only start by jumping at starter

[Smurfy76]

BTW the switch isn't for the starter but the solenoid. Mine has only one tab so I'm not sure the difference on that.

 

[urdrwho]

Whoa!

At the moment I have a broken finger, on antibiotics for Lyme, I'm 66 years old, I'm sitting with my neighbor some days, the one dying from cancer and all I want to do it get my 2.5 acres mowed. I really don't have the time or the physical capacity to crawl around on the ground. Now if you can tell me exactly which switch is crapped out, I would appreciated it.

Almost everyone around my area has disabled one or another of those safety switches at one time or another. Maybe over the winter I can get it set perfect again.

Yes I do live in an area that we joke about all the government BS that is here for our safety. We all have our feet, our fingers and some of the guys are in their 90's still crawling up onto their tractors to plow the fields.

Oh and yes, since my home isn't three prong receptacles, I also cut off that third ground off my wires.

I was originally trying to help you diagnose & fix your mower
However you are obviously determined to bastardize the wiring with less than no idea what you are doing & the potential consequences of doing it.
Thus you are now on your own

 

[bertsmobile1]

That's a little harsh. You would hate seeing my mower as I bypassed all safety switches with the push button start.

Some might call it harsh, down here we call it plain talking & Aussies are renown for it.
No tip toeing around just in case come one might get upset, call it as you see it.

If people who come here for assistance decide to ignore what they are told or asked to do then there is no point in wasting time trying to help them.
During my time I worked with a few functionally illiterate customers who were actually trying make a go of commercial lawn mowing but going broke because they did not understand their gear & how to maintain it.
And it is with a great deal of pride ( I can be as vein as anyone else ) I can say they are all doing quite well and now earning more from mowing than they were spending on their equipment servicing & repairs.
I show my customers what I do & how to do it and because of that they do not fell like I am ripping them off & recommend me to their friends.
However there are enough headaches in the yard that I can not fix without bashing my head against a brick wall on the forum with people who refuse to be helped to give me more headaches.

 

[bertsmobile1]

Whoa!

At the moment I have a broken finger, on antibiotics for Lyme, I'm 66 years old, I'm sitting with my neighbor some days, the one dying from cancer and all I want to do it get my 2.5 acres mowed. I really don't have the time or the physical capacity to crawl around on the ground. Now if you can tell me exactly which switch is crapped out, I would appreciated it.

Almost everyone around my area has disabled one or another of those safety switches at one time or another. Maybe over the winter I can get it set perfect again.

Yes I do live in an area that we joke about all the government BS that is here for our safety. We all have our feet, our fingers and some of the guys are in their 90's still crawling up onto their tractors to plow the fields.

Oh and yes, since my home isn't three prong receptacles, I also cut off that third ground off my wires.

Buy the time your mowing season ends I will be preparing for my 70th birthday, it is called aging and is 100% better than the alternative , I know because in 78 I went there.
You got a sore finger, I got a smashed ankle , not many get to this age intact , but at this age things get damaged a lot easier & take a lot longer the heal, thus things designed to prevent injury become more important.

Just cause you live amongst a community of 1/2 wit idiots does not mean you have to be one as well.
Removing something that was put there for your protection , regardless of weather it is essential or not ( & I don't believe is most of them myself ) is not a sign of a higher inteligance or a blow for freedom, it is plain dumb.

And no, we can not tell you exactly which switch to replace or what wire is bad because we are on the other side of a screen, not standing there looking at your mower, beer in hand.
You have to do what you get asked to do so the person who is trying to help you can work out exactly what is wrong.

Having signed off on your thread, perhaps other might fell inclined to pander to you.
There is a sort of unwritten agreement that we do not generally post to a thread where we see a person providing good information so now I have signed off your thread has been left clear for others.
And no I do not wish you any harm or mallace but I can make better use of my time helping people who are receptive to help.

 

[Smurfy76]

Look I see both sides of the story. On one hand yeah it should be fixed with it all working 100 percent. But sometimes you have to bypass things to make them work to get the job done. Take my mower. Yeah I bypassed every switch it has. You know why? Because I don't have 25 bucks for a ignition switch plus other things. Do I need the safety switches no not really because I have common sense. Just like a car I don't start it in gear. And let's be honest here. Most safety things are there not to protect people but the companies from being sued. So let's all. So let's relax everyone grab your internet beer and not take this that serious. We're here to help each other out not bitch at each other.

 

[urdrwho]

Yep product liability. For your safety Nytol Sleeping Pills - warning label "May cause drowsiness." I do like the one on my recent purchase, it is a folding ladder and it says, failure Failure to read and follow the instructions on this ladder may result in injury or death. Hm? I would think that failure to read isn't the peril, it is falling from the ladder may result in injury or death.

Oh I also forget this one:

Reading a cabinet manufacturers & installers recent contract sent to them to sign, I asked them are you aware of the life preserver clause. Answer - no. Well if any of your guys are installing a cabinet within 15 feet of a body of water, they must wear a coast guard approved life preserver. Well I won't say the words he used. I also mentioned to him that the "body of water" in the contract has no definition. Is the spirit of the word a swimming pool, a lake, the ocean, a small retention pond a mud puddle. Ah --- we are here to protect you

Look I see both sides of the story. On one hand yeah it should be fixed with it all working 100 percent. But sometimes you have to bypass things to make them work to get the job done. Take my mower. Yeah I bypassed every switch it has. You know why? Because I don't have 25 bucks for a ignition switch plus other things. Do I need the safety switches no not really because I have common sense. Just like a car I don't start it in gear. And let's be honest here. Most safety things are there not to protect people but the companies from being sued. So let's all. So let's relax everyone grab your internet beer and not take this that serious. We're here to help each other out not bitch at each other.