Yard Machine MTD17HP OHV

DaveTN

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Does the carb have a fuel pump diaphram in it ? I do not see an external fuel pump. Fuel line goes from tank to filter then to carb.

Try going from the empty filter back through the fuel line to the tank and make sure you have good gas flow at every spot. Definitely fuel starvation but you'll have to check everything, blow out the lines, check the tank filter too. Said you checked the gas cap vent. Since you can see the filter is empty, what about the line going on to the carburetor? And the carburetor bowl...is it empty as well? If that's the case, then the restriction is somewhere back of the filter going to the tank. There's a GREMLIN in there hiding someplace! I had an old Ford mower doing a similar stunt. Start up and run great, then in a couple of minutes start stalling out, sputter and nearly die. Barely got back to the garage with it on 2/3 choke or full choke at times. Belonged to a neighbor. I went thru that fuel system back and forth only to find that it was a piece of foreign material in the "L" shaped fuel inlet fitting to the carb! At times it would float off the inlet and fuel would flow, then it would get sucked down on the inlet and starve it. This repeated for many days until I took off the fuel inlet, removed the needle and blew it out. That's the only thing I can imagine would cause such starvation. But may not be the case since you've got no fuel in the filter. Even if the fuel inlet float needle was stuck shut, the engine wouldn't start and you'd have a full line of fuel back thru the filter to the tank. Just for experiment sake, take another gas tank, say off a push mower and run a line to the carburetor and see what it does. You can rig one up, which is what I did on the Ford and that will help narrow things down a bit. As far as the fuel pump being in the carb, no it isn't. The fuel pump would be an external, rectangle-shaped thin unit with metal cover bolted on, most likely mounted on the engine or near it. Diaphragm,spring, vacuum operated. Good Luck!
 
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A few years ago had a customer complaint that the 3 gallon fuel tank on his rider would run until about the last inch of fuel in the tank. Found a dead fly in the fuel tank that had hardened from the exposure to the gas. He would float in the tank until about the last inch of fuel, then would get sucked down on the tank fuel outlet, and shut off the fuel flow.
 

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A few years ago had a customer complaint that the 3 gallon fuel tank on his rider would run until about the last inch of fuel in the tank. Found a dead fly in the fuel tank that had hardened from the exposure to the gas. He would float in the tank until about the last inch of fuel, then would get sucked down on the tank fuel outlet, and shut off the fuel flow.

You were correct. I found 2-dead flys in the fuel filter. It runs fine now. Thanks for all the help.
 

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Good Lord!! Could somebody explain to me HOW a fly, let alone TWO got into a fuel tank or fuel system? You'd think gas fumes would drive anything away! I cleaned out a 5 HP side shaft B&S last year that had at least 1 inch of roofing tar-like substance in the bottom. Pickup screen completely hardened over. Had to use baking soda, and shake rocks around in it, on a hot plate to knock it loose and pour it out. Never did see any preserved flies in it. Amazingly it cleaned up great! Flies in the ointment? Wow!
 

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You were correct. I found 2-dead flys in the fuel filter. It runs fine now. Thanks for all the help.

Had a rider come in about 5 years ago with fuel starvation. couldn't get fuel out of the tank. Pulled the line off at the fuel filter, and back blew the fuel line with an air hose, and found that the fuel line was packed with grass clippings, some of which were 4 inches long. Had to pull the tank and drain and rinse to get all the grass out of the tank.
 
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