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where do i find the modle number on my briggs

#1

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

I have a briggs 20 hp On the side on a sticker says family and other numbers but i cant find the modle this is not my engine but it is exactly the same where do i find the number??


Briggs and Stratton Craftsman 20 HP Twin Model Ybsxs 7242VF 27844 | eBay


#2

L

Lawnranger

Hi Micah,

You may remember back in another thread I might have mentioned or made a slight reference to or suggested that you read the manual ? You may have missed it so if you did here is a gentle reminder to read the manual. And, when you do read the manual you will find all sorts of other valuable information such as how to decipher what all those numbers mean and refer to. You will gain all kinds of insights when you sit down and read the manual because the manufacturer knows you will need this information and that is why they print it in every service manual. Good idea, huh?


Or you could cheat yourself of all that experience and leave yourself in the dark by looking on one of the valve covers for the numbers that are stamped in the metal cover.


Do let us know which path you take and remember life is all about choices. The choices you make today determine where you end up tomorrow, next week, next month, next year and the rest of your life.

All the best to you!


#3

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

Lawnranger said:
Hi Micah,

You may remember back in another thread I might have mentioned or made a slight reference to or suggested that you read the manual ? You may have missed it so if you did here is a gentle reminder to read the manual. And, when you do read the manual you will find all sorts of other valuable information such as how to decipher what all those numbers mean and refer to. You will gain all kinds of insights when you sit down and read the manual because the manufacturer knows you will need this information and that is why they print it in every service manual. Good idea, huh?


Or you could cheat yourself of all that experience and leave yourself in the dark by looking on one of the valve covers for the numbers that are stamped in the metal cover.


Do let us know which path you take and remember life is all about choices. The choices you make today determine where you end up tomorrow, next week, next month, next year and the rest of your life.

All the best to you!
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I remember I just don't have the Manuel to this pertickuler engine the reason i wanted the model number was to try and find the Manuel:) Thanks you are very helpfull on this forum It is a good idea to read the manuel On the other thead i did read ir.............helped me a ton


#4

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

thank you


#5

L

Lawnranger

Micah Haarhoff said:
thank you
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Micah,

I'm glad to help. I also want you to learn how to learn when it comes to small engines and outdoor power equipment in general and that is by reading the manual first. Many times your question is answered in the manual and when you educate yourself by reading the manual you won't have to wait for someone on a forum to answer and this will be a big time saver for you. Another fact is that when you have to put in effort to learn something you have a much better chance of retaining what you learn - this will help you for the rest of your life.

I'm glad to hear you were looking for the manual as the reason you needed the model number. You are on the right track.


#6

reynoldston

reynoldston

Micah Haarhoff said:
I have a briggs 20 hp On the side on a sticker says family and other numbers but i cant find the modle this is not my engine but it is exactly the same where do i find the number??


Briggs and Stratton Craftsman 20 HP Twin Model Ybsxs 7242VF 27844 | eBay
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You can use the numbers on that sticker. The family number is just another way of saying model number. If the owners manual has you in a tizzy you might find it on line. Myself when I get a owners manual it gets thrown into a cabinet and read only if needed for adjustments. But I do use service manuals all the time for repairs in my shop for customer work.


#7

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

Guess what@Lawnranger? I found the model number now where do I get the Manuel? thx so much --micah:smile:


#8

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

Lawnranger said:
Micah,

I'm glad to help. I also want you to learn how to learn when it comes to small engines and outdoor power equipment in general and that is by reading the manual first. Many times your question is answered in the manual and when you educate yourself by reading the manual you won't have to wait for someone on a forum to answer and this will be a big time saver for you. Another fact is that when you have to put in effort to learn something you have a much better chance of retaining what you learn - this will help you for the rest of your life.

I'm glad to hear you were looking for the manual as the reason you needed the model number. You are on the right track.
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thanks i really like working on small engines and have my own lawn business in the neighbor hood after school I saved up and bought a zero turn............I was tired of push mowing 4 acre yards:laughing:


#9

L

Lawnranger

Micah Haarhoff said:
Guess what@Lawnranger? I found the model number now where do I get the Manuel? thx so much --micah:smile:
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When it comes to B&S you usually have to purchase the service manual however there are several kind folks on the forum who once in a while will offer up a pdf of the service manual you need. All you have to do is ask in a kind manner and provide the model number of the engine. Or you can search around online and find the best deal on a paper copy. Your choice. Remember what I said about choices?


#10

R

Rivets

Micah, as a retired small engines instructor I have to tell you that you are forgetting more than your are remembering. Listen to what members are telling you, so that you can retain the info, don't assume that you understand what they are saying before you research it. How did you find this forum? I'll bet you did a google search. Have you thought about doing a google search "BRIGGS AND STRATTON SERVICE MANUALS PDF" I know that you souls find almost every manual you would need by doing it. I know you may think it is much faster to ask one of us to do it for you, but the only thing you will learn that way is how to ask more questions. Doing your own research will allow you to retain more of what you need to know. If you would have really read the manual, you would have found the section on where engine numbers are located. The techs on this forum don't look at manuals, they read them in sections depending on what they are working on. In today's world the search engine on your computer is your first step to solving problems, but far from the last. Most of us who work in the repair business use the computer and repair manuals on a daily basis. Being able to find answers on my own is more rewarding and makes me a better tech, than having to find someone to answer my questions. I have been doing this for over forty years, and yes I still ask questions, but when I do the individuals I ask know that I have tried to find the answer on my own and need help. Finally, you will look much more intelligent if you would check your use of grammar and spell check. You are not on tweeter, where thx is a word.


#11

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

ok I understand@rivits I found the manuel but The reason i needed it was to get a part number for the Intake manifold where do i buy one of these im sure there are some under 45.00 right??


#12

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

Sorry Rivits I'm not so good at grammer.:frown: I will try harder


#13

R

Rivets

Have you tried a google search to answer your question? Did you find a service manual (how to repair, but no part numbers) or a parts manual with part numbers? When you get a part number, google it. If you don't know, PDF FILES, are free.


#14

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

I did that, But this engine is OLD 10+ years and only 8 hours on it. Aparently these older engines are hard to find parts for. I didn't know PDF Files were free. thanks for telling me:)


#15

B

bertsmobile1

Micah Haarhoff said:
I did that, But this engine is OLD 10+ years and only 8 hours on it. Aparently these older engines are hard to find parts for. I didn't know PDF Files were free. thanks for telling me:)
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Please do not try to cover lazyness with this sort of tripe.
It will not wash with the forum members, many of them have been service agents for twice the time you have been on the earth if not longer.
We are always ready to help people who are genuine but we quickly drop people who are simply using us.
So Bull Dust will not work.
I regularly chase down parts for engines that are 60 years old.
The average age of a mower that comes into my shop is 8 years old.
As for you personnaly it is obvious that you are attempint to either repair old mowers for resale or trying to do back yard repairs.
You do not need to lie about it. We are just as happy helping a person entering into commerce as we are to help a home owner.
Just so long as they are up front & honest with us.

So if you want to contine to get advice then you have to do some of the work for yourself.
This starts with going to the Briggs & Stratton web site and downloading the PARTS BOOK for your engine and the OPERATORS MANUAL for your engine.
Now if you do not understand what you are reading, we will be happy to explain. BUT YOU MUST HAVE READ IT FIRST.
I have several customers who are functionally illiterate and take pride in the fact that in the 3 years I have been servicing their machines We have worked through all of their peoblems and they now happily work , understand what is happening and are actually making a profit.
We will be happy to guide you through but you have to do some of the foot work yourself.

In the LINKS menu , right under the forum name there is a drop down menu that says "Parts Suppliers".
That is there because these people sponsor this forum that your are getting good value from and secondly because they supply the parts that we all need.
SO you start by downloading the parts book
Then identify the part number of the bits your need
Then you go to one of the "Parts Suppliers" web sites and type in the number you just found.
I have bought parts from just about all of them no problems.

OR

Go to one of the web site that has a "parts Lookup" option.
Typer your engine details in and do a search.
This is good for some one new to small engines because in most cases you get a nice exploded view which if you "Right Click" on you can usually open the image in a new page / tab thus save or print out the entire image, not just the little bit that shows on the web page.
Some of the web sites actually have a "print image" option use it , that the image down to your engine and familarise yourself with the parts and their names.
It makes helping you a lot easier.
We are not being paid so if you make life hard of us, we will make life hard for you or just ignore you completely.
Ball is in your court.


#16

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

ok, I looked on there website and they don't have an electrical schematic which is what i needed after the intake manifold is there another section that it would be on?


#17

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

I found the intake manifold on there so i dont need that any more


#18

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

bertsmobile1 said:
Please do not try to cover lazyness with this sort of tripe.
It will not wash with the forum members, many of them have been service agents for twice the time you have been on the earth if not longer.
We are always ready to help people who are genuine but we quickly drop people who are simply using us.
So Bull Dust will not work.
I regularly chase down parts for engines that are 60 years old.
The average age of a mower that comes into my shop is 8 years old.
As for you personnaly it is obvious that you are attempint to either repair old mowers for resale or trying to do back yard repairs.
You do not need to lie about it. We are just as happy helping a person entering into commerce as we are to help a home owner.
Just so long as they are up front & honest with us.

So if you want to contine to get advice then you have to do some of the work for yourself.
This starts with going to the Briggs & Stratton web site and downloading the PARTS BOOK for your engine and the OPERATORS MANUAL for your engine.
Now if you do not understand what you are reading, we will be happy to explain. BUT YOU MUST HAVE READ IT FIRST.
I have several customers who are functionally illiterate and take pride in the fact that in the 3 years I have been servicing their machines We have worked through all of their peoblems and they now happily work , understand what is happening and are actually making a profit.
We will be happy to guide you through but you have to do some of the foot work yourself.

In the LINKS menu , right under the forum name there is a drop down menu that says "Parts Suppliers".
That is there because these people sponsor this forum that your are getting good value from and secondly because they supply the parts that we all need.
SO you start by downloading the parts book
Then identify the part number of the bits your need
Then you go to one of the "Parts Suppliers" web sites and type in the number you just found.
I have bought parts from just about all of them no problems.

OR

Go to one of the web site that has a "parts Lookup" option.
Typer your engine details in and do a search.
This is good for some one new to small engines because in most cases you get a nice exploded view which if you "Right Click" on you can usually open the image in a new page / tab thus save or print out the entire image, not just the little bit that shows on the web page.
Some of the web sites actually have a "print image" option use it , that the image down to your engine and familarise yourself with the parts and their names.
It makes helping you a lot easier.
We are not being paid so if you make life hard of us, we will make life hard for you or just ignore you completely.
Ball is in your court.
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I'm just repairing them for the fun and education of it Im 15 so I don't know a whole lot but I want to learn about them.


#19

L

Lawnranger

Micah Haarhoff said:
I'm just repairing them for the fun and education of it Im 15 so I don't know a whole lot but I want to learn about them.
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Can you guess the best way of learning all about small engines?

Hint: It's not asking questions here.


#20

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

???


#21

L

Lawnranger

Micah Haarhoff said:
???
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Go back and read all the posts I wrote in this thread and see if you can find a common theme. Some of the other posters have also said the same thing.


#22

R

Rivets

Electrical schematic is not a part, you will find it in the manual under either the section covering ignition, charging or starters.


#23

Micah Haarhoff

Micah Haarhoff

ok thanks for the help guys:smile:


#24

ILENGINE

ILENGINE

Micah Haarhoff said:
I'm just repairing them for the fun and education of it Im 15 so I don't know a whole lot but I want to learn about them.
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Micah, the best way to learn about small engine repair is to just find old engines and take them apart and put them back together and figure what makes them tick. Work on how they come apart and go back together. You will figure out the diagnostics about what is wrong in the process. From there you start thinking what could be wrong when an engine won't start or what cause an engine to run poorly. Or if you have an engine with a broken rod, figure out what caused the rod to break. Did it break because the engine didn't have oil, or maybe dirt wore out the rings, and caused oil consumption leading to low oil failure, or maybe the governor has failed causing the rod to break due to overspeed. The pro technicians, like Rivets says, use the manuals in sections as more of a reference than how to work on something. Most of the service manuals are written for the basic tech that has some formal training, so they will not tell you have to remove a part or reinstall a part.

A little background about myself. My parents would go around the old junk yard, and bring the lawnmowers home for me to take apart when I was 3. I didn't ask for toys for christmas, I wanted tools. Started reassembling engines when I was 4, did my first overhaul on my parents 5 hp briggs tiller engine when I was 5. Was working on larger engines by 10, and was doing all the mower repairs for my family by that age. As I got older just kept at it to get to where I am now. One of only two briggs MST's in IL to have past the old 4.5 hour paper test on my first attempt without attending the Briggs factory school first. Keep in mind that this test had a first time failure rate of 80%. some techs in the business that had worked on engines for 40 years couldn't pass the test in 5 attempts.

To get good you have to remember what you have learned, and keep track of the odd failures, because they may come in handy in the future. Even failures on automobiles can be relevant in some cases, especially when it comes to EFI on lawnmowers. Just finding mechanical knowledge no matter what the source can be handy sometimes. Be it cars, tractors, ATV's, boat motors, can all be applied to small engine repair.


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