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Wheel weights
#2
Carscw
Not sure if you can.
But you can fill the tires with water.
Carscw
Does any one know if can get wheel weights for the new raptor
Not sure if you can.
But you can fill the tires with water.
#3
RetiredGuns
RetiredGuns
I doubt there is a factory option. Why would you need weights on a ZT? Just curious.
#4
Carscw
I fill mine with water. Same as wheel weights. Helps when mowing hills.
Carscw
I doubt there is a factory option. Why would you need weights on a ZT? Just curious.
I fill mine with water. Same as wheel weights. Helps when mowing hills.
#5
RetiredGuns
Makes sense. I've only seen wheel weights when folks are using certain implements.
RetiredGuns
I fill mine with water. Same as wheel weights. Helps when mowing hills.
Makes sense. I've only seen wheel weights when folks are using certain implements.
#6
gfp55
gfp55
Maybe you should ask a dealer if its an option.Does any one know if can get wheel weights for the new raptor
#7
Nickwilkins
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Nickwilkins
i feel a little dumb for asking this, but how do you fill them with water?I fill mine with water. Same as wheel weights. Helps when mowing hills.
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#8
gfp55
gfp55
They make an adapter to fill the tires, it take some time to fill each tire but it works. Are you going use water or something with an anti-freeze ?View attachment 22268 There other adapters out there. There are videos on Utube that show how it's done. View attachment 22270 View attachment 22269
#9
jekjr
jekjr
I never put water in a Zero turn mower tires but we always put it in tractor tires and I put water on my tires on my Cub Cadet rear tine tiller. It helped the tiller immensely.
#10
Carscw
Carscw
I use a water antifreeze mix. Helps keep rust down.
#11
Big-Al
Big-Al
Hello AL new guy. Never heard of using water but when I was growing up on the farm. We used calcium chloride in tractor tires. Our local farmers co-op put it in for us.
#12
V
verminaters
Thanks so much for the info I will look into ebay for that adapter, lowering the center of gravity makes it safer on hills.
V
verminaters
They make an adapter to fill the tires, it take some time to fill each tire but it works. Are you going use water or something with an anti-freeze ?View attachment 22268 There other adapters out there. There are videos on Utube that show how it's done. View attachment 22270 View attachment 22269
Thanks so much for the info I will look into ebay for that adapter, lowering the center of gravity makes it safer on hills.
#13
Carscw
Carscw
Can get it at tractor supply for $10
Called a air/water adapter kit made by slime
Called a air/water adapter kit made by slime
#14
K
kadowson
K
kadowson
Isn't the extra weight hard on the hydros? Just curious. I've never heard of watering the tires on a ztr.
#15
gfp55
gfp55
Thats correct, It's been awhile since I got it, your right I got from Tractor Supply. I must have the oldtimers thing going, I done forgot. Gee Wally I just pooped my pants,................ again.Can get it at tractor supply for $10
Called a air/water adapter kit made by slime
#16
Carscw
If a 300 pound man ( not me ) can use a ztr then I don't think 20 pounds of water will hurt anything.
Carscw
Isn't the extra weight hard on the hydros? Just curious. I've never heard of watering the tires on a ztr.
If a 300 pound man ( not me ) can use a ztr then I don't think 20 pounds of water will hurt anything.
#17
M
Micko
I think the problem could be that being that its a liquid (water), once the wheel stops the liquid will want to keep moving. Think of it a driving a car. If you crash, the occupants will be sent through the windscreen if not wearing a seatbelt. There is a technical term for it that escapes me.
The Hustler ATZ has wheel weights that are bolted on. Perhaps the OP could bolt some weight to the frame, low, near the drive wheels? Just thinking out loud!
But really, in such small wheels, I cant really see there being a problem. Thing is though, if you need weight in the tires, the machine is probably being driven on slopes that it shouldnt be on!
Ive heard of water rusting rims. Window washer fluid is a better alternative I believe.
M
Micko
If a 300 pound man ( not me ) can use a ztr then I don't think 20 pounds of water will hurt anything.
I think the problem could be that being that its a liquid (water), once the wheel stops the liquid will want to keep moving. Think of it a driving a car. If you crash, the occupants will be sent through the windscreen if not wearing a seatbelt. There is a technical term for it that escapes me.
The Hustler ATZ has wheel weights that are bolted on. Perhaps the OP could bolt some weight to the frame, low, near the drive wheels? Just thinking out loud!
But really, in such small wheels, I cant really see there being a problem. Thing is though, if you need weight in the tires, the machine is probably being driven on slopes that it shouldnt be on!
Ive heard of water rusting rims. Window washer fluid is a better alternative I believe.
#18
Carscw
Carscw
I just filled my toro ztr tires with water. Full with no air in them.
Have filled every tire on every mower I have ever had and never had a problem.
People have been doing it for years
Have filled every tire on every mower I have ever had and never had a problem.
People have been doing it for years
#19
M
Micko
Did I say dont do it? NO! Im only explaining that if there is an issue, that momentum thing could be the cause, or part of the problem. The only time anyone would need or want water in the tires is if they mow slopes. Mowing slopes is hard on hydros as it is, putting more pressure on them could be a reason for a dealer to void warranty so, I would be asking the dealer about it and if it could cause any warranty issues.
Or are you going to disagree with that?
At the end of the day, the OP has to cover himself if there is a problem. Some dealers, like insurance companies will look for any reason to get out of a warranty repair!
Sure, people have been putting water in LT's, GT's and tractors, forever. I rarely hear about it in ztrs. Not saying people dont do it, just rarely hear it.
M
Micko
I just filled my toro ztr tires with water. Full with no air in them.
Have filled every tire on every mower I have ever had and never had a problem.
People have been doing it for years
Did I say dont do it? NO! Im only explaining that if there is an issue, that momentum thing could be the cause, or part of the problem. The only time anyone would need or want water in the tires is if they mow slopes. Mowing slopes is hard on hydros as it is, putting more pressure on them could be a reason for a dealer to void warranty so, I would be asking the dealer about it and if it could cause any warranty issues.
Or are you going to disagree with that?
At the end of the day, the OP has to cover himself if there is a problem. Some dealers, like insurance companies will look for any reason to get out of a warranty repair!
Sure, people have been putting water in LT's, GT's and tractors, forever. I rarely hear about it in ztrs. Not saying people dont do it, just rarely hear it.
#20
Fish
Fish
yeah, they do it!!!!
#21
Lawnboy18
Not sure about that... There is this lawn crew that I see sometimes. The biggest man is never on the Z. I think his belly blocks the levers.
Lawnboy18
If a 300 pound man ( not me ) can use a ztr then I don't think 20 pounds of water will hurt anything.
Not sure about that... There is this lawn crew that I see sometimes. The biggest man is never on the Z. I think his belly blocks the levers.
#22
Carscw
I am not kidding. Him and his brother are both over 300 pounds.
Carscw
Not sure about that... There is this lawn crew that I see sometimes. The biggest man is never on the Z. I think his belly blocks the levers.
I am not kidding. Him and his brother are both over 300 pounds.
#23
Lawnboy18
Well, that is a lot.
If I can one day I will get a pic of this guy. It is one mighty beer belly.
Lawnboy18
I am not kidding. Him and his brother are both over 300 pounds.
Well, that is a lot.
If I can one day I will get a pic of this guy. It is one mighty beer belly.
#24
gfp55
gfp55
You are comparing a car with lawn mower? Yes if you are not belted in, you can go though the windscreen at higher speeds that a stock lawnmower can go. Lets say you are going as fast as you can go on a lawn mower, you may hit a whole 14 mph on flat ground, I'll give you 16 mph going down hill, those are not road speeds. I think the term you were looking for is called INERTIA, maybe not. As far as bolting weight to the frame, you are putting more stress on the axle then if the weight is in the tires. When the weight is in the tires it is unsprung weight, if the weight is on the frame the axles now have more weight on them that is undo stress on bearings, bushings and tires just to name a few parts. As far as rust on the inside of the rims, your rims are painted, if you don't have any chips or scratches on the inside of your rim you should be OK. Now if you put calcium chloride in your tires, that stuff will eat the paint off the rims and you will get rust. But if you put tubes in your tires then put in calcium chloride in the tube you should be OK. You can put 50/50 water/anti-freeze in your tires and have no trouble with rust, anti-freeze has an anti-rust additive to stop rust just like it works in water cooled engines. The term WATER is used to described the fluid in general instead of saying anti-freeze and water 50/50 mix. When a engine manufacturer gives an in general description of the cooling of an engine, they use the word WATER to describe how the engine is cooled, like (air cooled)(water cooled) engines. Putting weight in tires is good for traction and ballast when you are on hills. Putting weight in your tires is the best way to add ballast and you can't get weight any closer to the ground then in your tires which are on the ground.....I think the problem could be that being that its a liquid (water), once the wheel stops the liquid will want to keep moving. Think of it a driving a car. If you crash, the occupants will be sent through the windscreen if not wearing a seatbelt. There is a technical term for it that escapes me.
The Hustler ATZ has wheel weights that are bolted on. Perhaps the OP could bolt some weight to the frame, low, near the drive wheels? Just thinking out loud!
But really, in such small wheels, I cant really see there being a problem. Thing is though, if you need weight in the tires, the machine is probably being driven on slopes that it shouldnt be on!
Ive heard of water rusting rims. Window washer fluid is a better alternative I believe.
#25
M
Micko
Inertia is the word I was looking for, thanks for that!
Maybe the car was a bad way to explain it. Half fill a glass of water. Slide it across a table and stop it suddenly, what happens? The water will want to keep traveling in the same direction, but it cant. It will stop and then flow back in the opposite direction! It will flow back and forth until it settles.
But none of that matters. I doubt that much water will cause any kind of problem. I think I said that already!
When I read "fill the tires with water" I read it as, putting water in the tires. Water and steel react causeing rust, you know that but you are right, rims are painted and any rust would take many years to cause dramas. Because I read it as water, all I meant was there are better alternatives like as you say, antifreeze etc. I only mentioned window washer fluid as that came to mind!
Yeah, weight on the frame probably isnt a great idea, was just a thought. You know, getting more weight down low, lowering centre of gravity!
Anyway, I wasnt saying to not do it, just pointing out a few things that Ive read over the years. Mainly with LT's, GT's and tractors. Hell, I had water in my little JDLT155 back in the day so, what ever!
M
Micko
You are comparing a car with lawn mower? Yes if you are not belted in, you can go though the windscreen at higher speeds that a stock lawnmower can go. Lets say you are going as fast as you can go on a lawn mower, you may hit a whole 14 mph on flat ground, I'll give you 16 mph going down hill, those are not road speeds. I think the term you were looking for is called INERTIA, maybe not. As far as bolting weight to the frame, you are putting more stress on the axle then if the weight is in the tires. When the weight is in the tires it is unsprung weight, if the weight is on the frame the axles now have more weight on them that is undo stress on bearings, bushings and tires just to name a few parts. As far as rust on the inside of the rims, your rims are painted, if you don't have any chips or scratches on the inside of your rim you should be OK. Now if you put calcium chloride in your tires, that stuff will eat the paint off the rims and you will get rust. But if you put tubes in your tires then put in calcium chloride in the tube you should be OK. You can put 50/50 water/anti-freeze in your tires and have no trouble with rust, anti-freeze has an anti-rust additive to stop rust just like it works in water cooled engines. The term WATER is used to described the fluid in general instead of saying anti-freeze and water 50/50 mix. When a engine manufacturer gives an in general description of the cooling of an engine, they use the word WATER to describe how the engine is cooled, like (air cooled)(water cooled) engines. Putting weight in tires is good for traction and ballast when you are on hills. Putting weight in your tires is the best way to add ballast and you can't get weight any closer to the ground then in your tires which are on the ground.....
Inertia is the word I was looking for, thanks for that!
Maybe the car was a bad way to explain it. Half fill a glass of water. Slide it across a table and stop it suddenly, what happens? The water will want to keep traveling in the same direction, but it cant. It will stop and then flow back in the opposite direction! It will flow back and forth until it settles.
But none of that matters. I doubt that much water will cause any kind of problem. I think I said that already!
When I read "fill the tires with water" I read it as, putting water in the tires. Water and steel react causeing rust, you know that but you are right, rims are painted and any rust would take many years to cause dramas. Because I read it as water, all I meant was there are better alternatives like as you say, antifreeze etc. I only mentioned window washer fluid as that came to mind!
Yeah, weight on the frame probably isnt a great idea, was just a thought. You know, getting more weight down low, lowering centre of gravity!
Anyway, I wasnt saying to not do it, just pointing out a few things that Ive read over the years. Mainly with LT's, GT's and tractors. Hell, I had water in my little JDLT155 back in the day so, what ever!
#26
reynoldston
reynoldston
Back to the original question. You really shouldn't have a problem installing wheel weights. The wheel weights that I have installed just bolt on with long cap screws. The most you might have to do is drill the mounting holes in your wheels or wheel weights. The wheel weights I have seen weight 50 lbs. each which would give you more weight then water would.
#27
gfp55
gfp55
I'm thinking that if the wheels have holes in them already like other garden tractors then the manufacturer must of put them in the wheel just for that reason, to install wheel weights or to install dual wheels. It costs money to drill holes in the rims and be cheaper to leave them blank. I use RV anti-freeze in my tires 23x10.50-12 takes about 7 gallons per tire at 9 lbs per gallon = about 63 lbs per tire. 9x7=63x2=126 I rounded the weights out. I don't know what size the rear tires are on your mower.Back to the original question. You really shouldn't have a problem installing wheel weights. The wheel weights that I have installed just bolt on with long cap screws. The most you might have to do is drill the mounting holes in your wheels or wheel weights. The wheel weights I have seen weight 50 lbs. each which would give you more weight then water would.
#28
reynoldston
reynoldston
I can understand what is being said about filling the tires with antifreeze. If you need a tire repair who repairs them? And will except the mess of the old antifreeze, and will refill them? If someone brought a tire into my shop filled with antifreeze for a tire repair I would turn down the job. What in the world would you do with 9 gallons of antifreeze. Maybe RV antifreeze you could pour in you lawn?? and it wouldn't kill the grass? I don't even like the tire sealant mess but will do them. If you do your own tire repairs it would be fine. Some of the larger shops fill tires if you don't do your own tire work. As I recalled the original question was about wheel weights.
#29
Carscw
Carscw
I use RV antifreeze because it does not hurt the grass. And I buy it by the case to winterize homes.
You can pour it down a drain if you don't want to empty it on the lawn.
Did not know people buy others to fix a flat mower tire.
You can pour it down a drain if you don't want to empty it on the lawn.
Did not know people buy others to fix a flat mower tire.
#30
gfp55
gfp55
I'm thinking that if the wheels have holes in them already like other garden tractors then the manufacturer must of put them in the wheel just for that reason, to install wheel weights or to install dual wheels. It costs money to drill holes in the rims and be cheaper to leave them blank. I use RV anti-freeze in my tires 23x10.50-12 takes about 7 gallons per tire at 9 lbs per gallon = about 63 lbs per tire. 9x7=63x2=126 I rounded the weights out. I don't know what size the rear tires are on your mower.
If you read my post I addressed the wheel weights that you recall was the original question or maybe you didn't understand what I was saying. As far as RV antifreeze not engine antifreeze, being safe, read the label; "All ingredient are listed in the U.S. Federal Register. This product is considered GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) by the Food and Drug Administration." I run 6 ply tires so I have never had a flat tire on any of my machines, but I guess if I did and I had to take the tire to a tire shop I would save the fluid and put it back in when the tire was repaired. Just to be sure I called the EPA and they said it is safe also and it can go in the ground and not poison your well. I do not understand why you are so against something you obviously know nothing about. If you don't like it don't use it, but others can post other ways of putting weight on wheels if one can't mount wheel weights or does not want to use wheel weights for aesthetic reasons.....I can understand what is being said about filling the tires with antifreeze. If you need a tire repair who repairs them? And will except the mess of the old antifreeze, and will refill them? If someone brought a tire into my shop filled with antifreeze for a tire repair I would turn down the job. What in the world would you do with 9 gallons of antifreeze. Maybe RV antifreeze you could pour in you lawn?? and it wouldn't kill the grass? I don't even like the tire sealant mess but will do them. If you do your own tire repairs it would be fine. Some of the larger shops fill tires if you don't do your own tire work. As I recalled the original question was about wheel weights.
#31
reynoldston
I can see we don't agree on things as to other post also. I could care less what you do with your antifreeze. Drink it for all I care. The original post asked about wheel weights. I am sure they can do as they please and all I was suggestion how to install wheel weights and all you what to do is pick a fight. Just because you are having a bad day don't take it out on me.
reynoldston
If you read my post I addressed the wheel weights that you recall was the original question or maybe you didn't understand what I was saying. As far as RV antifreeze not engine antifreeze, being safe, read the label; "All ingredient are listed in the U.S. Federal Register. This product is considered GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) by the Food and Drug Administration." I run 6 ply tires so I have never had a flat tire on any of my machines, but I guess if I did and I had to take the tire to a tire shop I would save the fluid and put it back in when the tire was repaired. Just to be sure I called the EPA and they said it is safe also and it can go in the ground and not poison your well. I do not understand why you are so against something you obviously know nothing about. If you don't like it don't use it, but others can post other ways of putting weight on wheels if one can't mount wheel weights or does not want to use wheel weights for aesthetic reasons.....
I can see we don't agree on things as to other post also. I could care less what you do with your antifreeze. Drink it for all I care. The original post asked about wheel weights. I am sure they can do as they please and all I was suggestion how to install wheel weights and all you what to do is pick a fight. Just because you are having a bad day don't take it out on me.
#32
gfp55
gfp55
Does any one know if can get wheel weights for the new raptor
Maybe you should ask a dealer if its an option.
Thanks so much for the info I will look into ebay for that adapter, lowering the center of gravity makes it safer on hills.
You are getting all worked up about something that the OP already has the answer for. Read the whole thread and you will understand. Where are my facts wrong?I can see we don't agree on things as to other post also. I could care less what you do with your antifreeze. Drink it for all I care. The original post asked about wheel weights. I am sure they can do as they please and all I was suggestion how to install wheel weights and all you what to do is pick a fight. Just because you are having a bad day don't take it out on me.
#33
gfp55
gfp55
Your questions on this post must have been rhetorical, sorry I did not realise.I can understand what is being said about filling the tires with antifreeze. If you need a tire repair who repairs them? And will except the mess of the old antifreeze, and will refill them? If someone brought a tire into my shop filled with antifreeze for a tire repair I would turn down the job. What in the world would you do with 9 gallons of antifreeze. Maybe RV antifreeze you could pour in you lawn?? and it wouldn't kill the grass? I don't even like the tire sealant mess but will do them. If you do your own tire repairs it would be fine. Some of the larger shops fill tires if you don't do your own tire work. As I recalled the original question was about wheel weights.
#34
Nwatson99
Nwatson99
Sorry late to the party, but I am taking my rear tires to have them fluid filled at the dealer and the reason I am doing this is warranty.
If JD does it, my rims and tires are still covered under factory warranty from defect, rust, dry-rot, etc.
If JD does it, my rims and tires are still covered under factory warranty from defect, rust, dry-rot, etc.
#35
gfp55
gfp55
Thats good thinkingSorry late to the party, but I am taking my rear tires to have them fluid filled at the dealer and the reason I am doing this is warranty.
If JD does it, my rims and tires are still covered under factory warranty from defect, rust, dry-rot, etc.
#36
Carscw
Good thinking.
I got to my first yard yesterday and had a flat. The water in the tire made it easy to find the hole. Started putting air in the tire and water came out like a hose. Put a plug in it and good to go.
Carscw
Sorry late to the party, but I am taking my rear tires to have them fluid filled at the dealer and the reason I am doing this is warranty. If JD does it, my rims and tires are still covered under factory warranty from defect, rust, dry-rot, etc.
Good thinking.
I got to my first yard yesterday and had a flat. The water in the tire made it easy to find the hole. Started putting air in the tire and water came out like a hose. Put a plug in it and good to go.
#37
gfp55
gfp55
I'm glad it was an easy fix.Good thinking.
I got to my first yard yesterday and had a flat. The water in the tire made it easy to find the hole. Started putting air in the tire and water came out like a hose. Put a plug in it and good to go.
#38
Nwatson99
When I had my metal roof put on in 2012, I wore those guys out with the magnet walking around my house finding nails and screws, I bet they were glad to leave. LOL
The stuff they are putting in my tires is called Rim Guard, you guys have any experience with it?
Nwatson99
Thats good thinking
Good thinking.
I got to my first yard yesterday and had a flat. The water in the tire made it easy to find the hole. Started putting air in the tire and water came out like a hose. Put a plug in it and good to go.
When I had my metal roof put on in 2012, I wore those guys out with the magnet walking around my house finding nails and screws, I bet they were glad to leave. LOL
The stuff they are putting in my tires is called Rim Guard, you guys have any experience with it?
#39
gfp55
gfp55
I have not used Rim Guard, but I've read that its the stuff to use, made out of I think sugar beet juice, non toxic natural stuff, weighs more then water, will not rust your wheels. I think more people would use it if they could get it, not every dealer has it and the ones that do over charge of say that you have to bring your tractor or tires to them. I would like to find a dealer that would sell me a 55 gallon drum of it, but nobody in my area sells it. I don't want to take off my big tractor tires to have them filled. I think in time more dealers will start handling it and the price will go down.When I had my metal roof put on in 2012, I wore those guys out with the magnet walking around my house finding nails and screws, I bet they were glad to leave. LOL
The stuff they are putting in my tires is called Rim Guard, you guys have any experience with it?
#40
Carscw
Have never used it but have heard not to use a tube with it. Why? I do not know
Carscw
When I had my metal roof put on in 2012, I wore those guys out with the magnet walking around my house finding nails and screws, I bet they were glad to leave. LOL The stuff they are putting in my tires is called Rim Guard, you guys have any experience with it?
Have never used it but have heard not to use a tube with it. Why? I do not know