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I have a brand new Briggs and Stratton 121S07-0020-F1 engine with a 12 volt starter and alternator charger. I want to put it on my Snapper and hook up a battery/harness/key start. The original Snapper kit did not charge the battery through the engine, but used an AC plug in to charge. What mower system can I “steal” the harness/battery/key start set up from to modify my Snapper to work and utilize the alternator charger on the engine?

Like where you are going with this. Just asking a question. Is the rope too hard to tug on? I would like all my Hi-Vacs to be electric start.

slomo

slomo said:

Like where you are going with this. Just asking a question. Is the rope too hard to tug on? I would like all my Hi-Vacs to be electric start.

slomo

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The engine I picked up online was a great deal and will fit the Snapper. It does not even have a recoil pull start- 12v starter only. I decided that I would make it work no matter what. I would prefer to have it self charge the battery since it has the alternator, but I will use an AC adapter if I have to. I can take the wiring harness and setup off an old Toro Recycler if I have too, but I figure this new motor was made for some application that had a harness/battery/key start system. I just need help figuring out what that is. Google has not been much help.

The motor I’m replacing is the second motor I put on, but it is starting to burn oil and foul up the plug.

I'd wire it to make the engine alternator charge the battery. Never have to plug in anything. Should be some simple wiring. You could throw some cool LED lights on her and mow at night.

slomo

FrankenSnapperKing said:

I have a brand new Briggs and Stratton 121S07-0020-F1 engine with a 12 volt starter and alternator charger. I want to put it on my Snapper and hook up a battery/harness/key start. The original Snapper kit did not charge the battery through the engine, but used an AC plug in to charge. What mower system can I “steal” the harness/battery/key start set up from to modify my Snapper to work and utilize the alternator charger on the engine?

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I got mine off a used Sears mower. That's where i got the keystart, charging, etc cables and the electric start Quantum motor itself from. Ask around, maybe you can find a shop that will part mowers that owners don't want fixed.

So if he has an engine with an alternator, that will charge his battery. Then you need a key to send 12 volts to the starter solenoid. Then a ground to the key switch to kill the ignition right? Anything else here? Sounds pretty simple. What did I miss?

slomo

That sounds like a fun project and you can make it happen go for it.

Easy peasy if you & only you use the mower
You will need a starting solenoid and a starter button which can be any spring loaded switch, like a horn button for example
Battery + to switch to solenoid trigger terminal .
This is of course UNSAFE but if only you use the mower and you always sit in the seat before you start it then you won't accidentially cause the blades to rotate nwhile your bare toes are under the deck ( not pretty )
Rectifier + wire to the battery terminal on the solenoid & you are done
Existing switch should work fine to stop the engine

NorthBama said:

That sounds like a fun project and you can make it happen go for it.

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Yep. I will make it happen!

bertsmobile1 said:

Easy peasy if you & only you use the mower
You will need a starting solenoid and a starter button which can be any spring loaded switch, like a horn button for example
Battery + to switch to solenoid trigger terminal .
This is of course UNSAFE but if only you use the mower and you always sit in the seat before you start it then you won't accidentially cause the blades to rotate nwhile your bare toes are under the deck ( not pretty )
Rectifier + wire to the battery terminal on the solenoid & you are done
Existing switch should work fine to stop the engine

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A couple things:
- It is a 15 year old walk behind self propelled Hi-Vac
- I prefer to just graft on a harness/battery box/key switch from some other application rather than fabricate my own set up (I have the skills, I just don’t want to sink that much time & effort into it)

I think I have a lead or two on a setup Lawnboy uses that will work for me and will utilize the self charging aspect of the alternator. I’ll update within a few days, and keep checking back here for any more comments or advice.

You will spend more time looking for an appropriate loom, removing it from the donor engine, repairing the damage then fitting it to your mower than simply adding the momentary switch & solenoid .
Then any loom with provision for battery starting will have several safety interlock switches which will either have to be bypassed on the new loom or fitted to the mower where there was originally nothing .
IT will be a lot more work.
But it is your mower & your time so good luck & good bye

I was a Snapper dealer for many years. The simplest way would be to order the correct on/off/ start key switch, starter solenoid, and wiring harness for your model Hi Vac. Unless prices have gone up a lot. $35 should do it.