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Toro Timemaster Problem

#1

J

jobowers

Hi All,

Just bought a Toro Timemaster 30inch mower and used it once. It cut and mulched great, happy with that. My problem is that the personal pace mechanism squeals when i start the machine moving. Also, I noticed that it doesn't move as fast as it did when I first used it. If I push the bar all the way down, it should take off, but it doesn't and is very sluggish. Anyone have the same problem? The sqealing sounds like a belt could be lose, which would explain the slow movement. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Chris


#2

Ric

Ric

jobowers said:
Hi All,

Just bought a Toro Timemaster 30inch mower and used it once. It cut and mulched great, happy with that. My problem is that the personal pace mechanism squeals when i start the machine moving. Also, I noticed that it doesn't move as fast as it did when I first used it. If I push the bar all the way down, it should take off, but it doesn't and is very sluggish. Anyone have the same problem? The sqealing sounds like a belt could be lose, which would explain the slow movement. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Chris
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I have the Turf Master and am not familiar with the TimeMaster, You need to ask or get with Rivets he's works for Toro and could give you the answers you need. My Turf Master has an adjustable drive but I don't know about the Time Master.


#3

Ric

Ric

jobowers said:
Hi All,

Just bought a Toro Timemaster 30inch mower and used it once. It cut and mulched great, happy with that. My problem is that the personal pace mechanism squeals when i start the machine moving. Also, I noticed that it doesn't move as fast as it did when I first used it. If I push the bar all the way down, it should take off, but it doesn't and is very sluggish. Anyone have the same problem? The sqealing sounds like a belt could be lose, which would explain the slow movement. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Chris
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Chris, did some research, go to your manual and on Page 19 use figure 36 and 37 it's the drive belt adjustment. Try adjusting the cable as it says. It's basically like the Turf master and I know I had to adjust mine after the first couple of times I used it because it loosened and I had to tightened mine and adjust it for me. I think that will solve the issue.


#4

J

jobowers

Thanks for the insight Ric! I will check this out later and let you know how it turns out.


#5

Ric

Ric

jobowers said:
Thanks for the insight Ric! I will check this out later and let you know how it turns out.
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If it doesn't get you what you want check with Rivets on here or maybe drop him a PM he can tell you more.


#6

lawn mower fanatic

lawn mower fanatic

I moved your thread to the Toro Forum. :smile:


#7

J

jobowers

Ok, so I tightened the line for the personal pace and it didn't have any effect. Basically, the personal pace mechanism does not work for this mower anymore. I took the belt guard off to take a look inside and found that when I push down the personal pace bar, the chord is pulled, but doesn't move near the transmission/belts. Theres a disconnect somwehre down the line and I don't know where. The cable is definately being pulled by the handlebar but theres no movement near the drive train.

I just bought it a few days ago, so I will most likely return it.


#8

J

jobowers

So decided to return the mower. Got a new timemaster and brought it home and started her up and the motor sputters quite a bit. The first mower definately didnt sound like this. Could this be that the motorr was just started for first time or is it a sign of a more serious problem? Needless to say my patience is wearing thin with this mower...

Any input is appreciated...


#9

R

Rivets

Are you getting these units from a dealer or a big box store. It seems to me that both of these problems are set up problems. If it was from a dealer, they should be setting them up and checking them, if they are any good. If it was from a big box store, were they in a box or off the floor. I'm guessing big box store and off the floor. I have not seen eitherbof these problems and I can only guess after you give a little more info.


#10

J

jobowers

Hi Rivets,

You are correct, big box store, however, both units were in boxes and NOT floor models. The first one, which had the problem with the personal pace, seemed to idle much smoother. Granted the new one was only running for about 5 minutes. But definitely noticed some sputtering. Engine just didn't sound great, which has got me worried since its a new mower.


#11

R

Rivets

You are going to hate me for saying this, but this is a prime example why I preach, buy from a dealer. They would have set the first one up properly and you would not have needed a second one. This is not a Toro problem, and blaming them is wrong. The second one probably just needs a little check over to run right. The only thing a can tell you is to bite the bullet and if you don't feel it is running correctly, take it to a dealer and have him check it over. Depending on the dealer and what he finds, you may have to pay a little to have this problem solved.


#12

J

jobowers

I have no doubt that buying from a toro dealer is better for service and situations like this. I may have to bring it in for a checkup because I'm sure the machine is fine and just needs to be tuned. I turned it on last nigth for a minute and seemed to run smoothly. We'll see how it does next cut.

Thanks for your input.


#13

M

mgplencia

I ran into this situation with a TimeMaster I bought last weekend (23-Aug-14) at a dealer. How hard should the mower "pull" when the personal pace bar is fully engaged?


#14

exotion

exotion

mgplencia said:
I ran into this situation with a TimeMaster I bought last weekend (23-Aug-14) at a dealer. How hard should the mower "pull" when the personal pace bar is fully engaged?
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It should definately pull when engaged that's what it is designed to do. Something is misadjusted, what I have noticed with the toro 21" personal pace mowers is that when someone folds the handle bars down it pulls the drive cable tight and have seen it bend and kink. And the ones I've seen which people leave them in the folded position for extended periods of time(a year or two) is that the cable stretches and doesn't work right.


#15

P

PeaceLoveLawn

Rivets said:
You are going to hate me for saying this, but this is a prime example why I preach, buy from a dealer. They would have set the first one up properly and you would not have needed a second one. This is not a Toro problem, and blaming them is wrong. The second one probably just needs a little check over to run right. The only thing a can tell you is to bite the bullet and if you don't feel it is running correctly, take it to a dealer and have him check it over. Depending on the dealer and what he finds, you may have to pay a little to have this problem solved.
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Rivets,
I too have this same issue with the TimeMaster self-propel, what is the fix for the issue ? The cable pulls when the handle is pushed but the mower does not go anywhere.


#16

jekjr

jekjr

jobowers said:
Hi All,

Just bought a Toro Timemaster 30inch mower and used it once. It cut and mulched great, happy with that. My problem is that the personal pace mechanism squeals when i start the machine moving. Also, I noticed that it doesn't move as fast as it did when I first used it. If I push the bar all the way down, it should take off, but it doesn't and is very sluggish. Anyone have the same problem? The sqealing sounds like a belt could be lose, which would explain the slow movement. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Chris
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I have a Time Master that we bought in 2014. It is a great little mower. There is hardly a day that it does not come off of the trailer. We use it to mulch, discharge, and bag, depending on the yard we are working on......

When I first got mine I had to adjust the cable on the personal pace system. Ever since i did that that part has worked flawless.


#17

R

Rivets

You need to adjust the Personal Pace cable to add more tension to the belt. Loosen the nut or knob and pull the cable housing toward the engine. Properly adjusted there should be a slight slack in the cable, so it does not engage instantaneously.


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