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sqdg71

Have a Hustler mower with Honda engine. The Honda brand oil filter is 15 bucks. Have cross referenced Honda filter and have come up with several at much cheaper price. My question is if I use a different filter will I toast the motor? thanks n advance


#2

Carscw

Carscw

Any filter you cross over with the Honda numbers will work just fine.

Just stay away from Fram.


#3

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Mad Mackie

Have a Hustler mower with Honda engine. The Honda brand oil filter is 15 bucks. Have cross referenced Honda filter and have come up with several at much cheaper price. My question is if I use a different filter will I toast the motor? thanks n advance

If your engine is still on warranty, I would use Honda filters. How often do you change the oil filter? $15 verses $5 may be cheap insurance.
I have seen where a so called reliable aftermarket oil filter supplier changed manufacturers of the filters and they were bad. This caused a ripple effect for both dealers and owners alike. The supplier of the bad oil filters only supplied more bad oil filters until they finally did something about it. The dealers and machine owners paid for the engine repairs and/or replacements.
I buy Briggs filters for my Briggs engines and Kawasaki filters for my Hustler, which happens to be still on warranty.
All oil filter manufacturers provide cross reference lists, but also have a disclaimer.
Just some thoughts from
Mad Mackie in CT:laughing::biggrin::smile:


#4

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Rivets

I'm confused, probably due to old age. You paid extra to get a quality engine on your unit, now you want to put a cheaper filter on it, hoping that the manufacturers claim "it will fit your engine" is not just a selling point. Does it have the same size filtering material and a bypass valve? Fits your engine and identical to OEM are not the same.


#5

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sqdg71

thanks for feedback, my machine is way out of warranty. I did buy this mower with the thought of the quality of motor in mind. In my mind buying a quality after market part instead of original is smart money. I went with a Wix filter, the Wix was half the cost of the Honda. again thanks for feedback


#6

Carscw

Carscw

thanks for feedback, my machine is way out of warranty. I did buy this mower with the thought of the quality of motor in mind. In my mind buying a quality after market part instead of original is smart money. I went with a Wix filter, the Wix was half the cost of the Honda. again thanks for feedback

Wiz is what I use.

You are not going to a cheaper made filter just cheaper in price.


#7

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motoman

Professionals have the vast experience and should be heeded. I , however, experiment . On my lowend Intek I buy any filter that fits . Heat has done far more damage to my engine than filter. I will comment on Fram. They have gone downhill in my opinion. During the past year I have tried twice to put a Fram on my Nissan per their callout. The lead thread on the female will not engage. They just keep producing a defective filter in this case. I think they make these filters in Israel.


#8

Carscw

Carscw

Professionals have the vast experience and should be heeded. I , however, experiment . On my lowend Intek I buy any filter that fits . Heat has done far more damage to my engine than filter. I will comment on Fram. They have gone downhill in my opinion. During the past year I have tried twice to put a Fram on my Nissan per their callout. The lead thread on the female will not engage. They just keep producing a defective filter in this case. I think they make these filters in Israel.

The thing. With Fram on a small air cooled engine Is they restrict the flow of oil to much.


#9

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SeniorCitizen

The last oil filters i've bought for the autos , one under warranty, one not, were Champion at Farmer's Co-Op for $3.87 + tax and stories galore until I had to pull my britches legs up because of deep BS. Will be checking on lawn tractor fit / compatibility next.

Now looking for less expensive air filters than JD dealer. I don't mind a profit but 3-4 hundred percent, possibly more. I don't think so.


#10

reynoldston

reynoldston

Any filter you cross over with the Honda numbers will work just fine.

Just stay away from Fram.

Not that it matters to me but I have used Fram filters on and off through the years and never had a problem with them. I use Baldwin filters now only because my son-in law sells them. Now back in my early years when I was just starting in repairs oil filters were a add on accessory on car and trucks, never seen one on a small engine.


#11

Carscw

Carscw

Not that it matters to me but I have used Fram filters on and off through the years and never had a problem with them. I use Baldwin filters now only because my son-in law sells them. Now back in my early years when I was just starting in repairs oil filters were a add on accessory on car and trucks, never seen one on a small engine.

I have never had any engine problems because of a oil filter.
And years ago I used Fram.

The man that builds my engines is the one who told me not to use them in Modified engines or small engines.

I use Napa gold in my vehicles
And wix on my mowers.


#12

exotion

exotion

I have never had any engine problems because of a oil filter.
And years ago I used Fram.

The man that builds my engines is the one who told me not to use them in Modified engines or small engines.

I use Napa gold in my vehicles
And wix on my mowers.

I figure something that so many swear against probably can be avoided.. so many people hate Fram they have a reason. So for a couple dollars more I can get something different


#13

highlift60

highlift60

There is a plethora of evidence on why most Frams are the absolute turd of the oil filter industry. At Bobs the Oil Guy forum people have torn just about every filter apart, photographed and analyzed. Verdict: most standard orange can Frams could not be a worse design. I say most because some of the orange cans are actually made by other OEM companies, like my Kawasaki filter. PH8170 that fits the FR, FS and FX engines is made by the same OEM factory and is a good filter. Also says "made for" on the box as a hint. The Tough Guard and other premium Frams are perfectly fine, but most all the standard ones are horrible. There is nothing wrong with finding an alternate oil filter as long as you do your homework. You need to match not only the thread pitch but the bypass valve pressure, gasket size/thickness and micron rating. Better to just do a search where others have done the work for you.


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