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Starter solenoid

#1

X-man

X-man

How hard is it to replace the starter solenoid on my Craftsman? It fried the other night.


#2

EngineMan

EngineMan

A Craftsman what...?


#3

M

MowGuy

im going out on a guess and saying riding mower - pretty easy to do depending on year. disconnect the battery first tho!


#4

Fish

Fish

X-man said:
How hard is it to replace the starter solenoid on my Craftsman? It fried the other night.
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Why? Are you sure it "fried"?????


#5

reynoldston

reynoldston

It all depends in its location. It can be anywhere from easy to hard? If you know where it is located just how hard is it to get to for removal?


#6

X-man

X-man

EngineMan said:
A Craftsman what...?
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Sorry for the lack of info. I was in a hurry when I started this thread.

It's a 1997 Craftsman riding tractor (unsure of model) with a Kohler Command 15 HP (M# CV15S) engine in it.
I know for a fact that the solenoid went to hell because when I turn the key it makes a buzzing/ticking noise. I already checked the battery, it is fully charged.


#7

Carscw

Carscw

Take a pic of how the wires go. Should only take a few mins. Don't forget to unhook the battery.

(( cowboy up and get over it ))


#8

EngineMan

EngineMan

Carscw said:
Take a pic of how the wires go. Should only take a few mins. Don't forget to unhook the battery.

(( cowboy up and get over it ))
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Just to add.... thank you for the info, but do the above and make sure all connections are clean, you should be alright.


#9

Carscw

Carscw

Did you try jumper cables on the battery?
I know you said the battery is good.
Most times when it buzzes or clicks multiple times it is a weak battery or a loose connection. Check and make sure everything is tight and clean.

(( cowboy up and get over it ))


#10

Fish

Fish

Rapid clicking usually indicates bad/dirty connections at the battery/frame or solenoid.

Some Kohlers have a starter with a solenoid on top of it, and the solenoid costs as much as the starter and solenoid.

Please post your engine's spec numbers and clean and tighten all of your battery cable connections first.


#11

EngineMan

EngineMan

Fish said:
Please post your engine's spec numbers.
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Did you read post #6


#12

Carscw

Carscw

Always late and a $1.00 short

(( cowboy up and get over it ))


#13

Fish

Fish

EngineMan said:
Did you read post #6
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Why yes, I did!!! Where is the spec number??


#14

R

Rivets

95% of Kohler Command engines have the solenoid mounted on the starter. From the OP original post, my bet is that the plunger contacts are burned. As said earlier, it would be cheaper to purchase a new starter than just the solenoid. Cheapest way would be to have the starter rebuilt, if you have someone in your are who does that. Before you order anew starter through Kohler, check in your area for an auto parts store which handles Denso or Wilson starters. They may be able to get it cheaper for you.


#15

Carscw

Carscw

I must be the lucky one that got all of the 5%

(( cowboy up and get over it ))


#16

reynoldston

reynoldston

If its the type of solenoid that go's on the starter I recall on the older cars you could take them apart and clean the contacts. It just seems they make everything now days so you have to replace everthing


#17

EngineMan

EngineMan

Fish said:
Why yes, I did!!! Where is the spec number??
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If the solenoid is fitted has part of the starter on a "Kohler Command 15HP M#CV15S" what more info does one need to be able to take it apart and hope to fix it, fit a new solenoid or just go for a new starter.


#18

Fish

Fish

EngineMan said:
If the solenoid is fitted has part of the starter on a "Kohler Command 15HP M#CV15S" what more info does one need to be able to take it apart and hope to fix it, fit a new solenoid or just go for a new starter.
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With the spec number, one can give an intelligent response. Some of these commands had Smartspark, different starters, and some had adjustable valves.

With the spec number one can look up their engine and "KNOW" what they have!!!

Trying to help folks fix their engines is hard enough, but to have the techs pissing on each other's tires in some silly testosterone deathmatch, makes it
almost impossible.


#19

Fish

Fish

Carscw said:
Did you try jumper cables on the battery?
I know you said the battery is good.
Most times when it buzzes or clicks multiple times it is a weak battery or a loose connection. Check and make sure everything is tight and clean.

(( cowboy up and get over it ))
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Sorry, I missed this post....

Good advice here..... I drink a lot........


#20

R

Rivets

Then I'll make sure I'll stay away from your posts, because you know more than me. My signature says it all.


#21

EngineMan

EngineMan

Fish said:
With the spec number, one can give an intelligent response. Some of these commands had Smartspark, different starters, and some had adjustable valves.

With the spec number one can look up their engine and "KNOW" what they have!!!

Trying to help folks fix their engines is hard enough, but to have the techs pissing on each other's tires in some silly testosterone deathmatch, makes it
almost impossible.
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I do say "if" it is fitted to the starter, but going from some of my wiring diagrams that I have had a look at it may have a solenoid fitted to the chassis, and therefore a simple job in replacing.


#22

Fish

Fish

Rivets said:
Then I'll make sure I'll stay away from your posts, because you know more than me. My signature says it all.
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Was that referring to me?

I just am requesting the correct spec numbers here so we can give good advice, that is all........


#23

R

Rivets

Yes if this is your's.

Trying to help folks fix their engines is hard enough, but to have the techs pissing on each other's tires in some silly testosterone deathmatch, makes it almost impossible.

Not all the techs have the same background. We ask questions for the same reason you do, to better understand the problem. You might know more than us and we might know more than you, that is no reason for you to assume that we are stepping on your post. The way I see it you don't like any techs offering advice or stepping on your posts or asking more questions. That is why I said I'll stay away from any threads you reply to, as you know more than me, which is probably true. I just hope that the techs who work for you, know as much as you or they won't be there long with you attitude of questioning other ways of doing things. You won't see me in any other threads you reply to, unless I get lucky and can help more than you. Your the expert over us techs who just piss on tires.


#24

Carscw

Carscw

I sure hope he got his mower running.

(( cowboy up and get over it ))


#25

Fish

Fish

Rivets said:
Yes if this is your's.

Trying to help folks fix their engines is hard enough, but to have the techs pissing on each other's tires in some silly testosterone deathmatch, makes it almost impossible.

Not all the techs have the same background. We ask questions for the same reason you do, to better understand the problem. You might know more than us and we might know more than you, that is no reason for you to assume that we are stepping on your post. The way I see it you don't like any techs offering advice or stepping on your posts or asking more questions. That is why I said I'll stay away from any threads you reply to, as you know more than me, which is probably true. I just hope that the techs who work for you, know as much as you or they won't be there long with you attitude of questioning other ways of doing things. You won't see me in any other threads you reply to, unless I get lucky and can help more than you. Your the expert over us techs who just piss on tires.
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Na, no worries. I am done. The guys that attack me for asking for the spec number is my only problem, has none to do with you.

Why anyone would give anyone hell for wanting to know what engine they had to give an intelligent response????

I don't know, you guys are the top dogs here......

I'll hang around enough to piss you guys off, I guess......

I just hate seeing some folks online telling the poster to buy new coils without knowing if his engine may or may not have a different ignition system.
We as "techs" that purport to know what we are talking about, have a responsibility to at least give more than mediocre advice......

If I get attacked by young guys for asking a spec number to know more precisely what Kohler engine system the original poster has to try and give him
a correct response, then "GOOD"!!!!!!!!!!

The guys giving bad advice should at least feel a little bad......

2 cycle is even harder......

No worries..........


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