Are there any reviews on this specific model? I know that it's fairly new, but I'm having a hard time finding anything on it. I'm currently in the market for a ZT and this is one of the contenders, along with Gravely and Toro.
Any information that anyone could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Yes it is new, but it is almost identical to the model it replaced, the Hustler Sport.
http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/equipment-news/20898-hustler-raptor-super-duty.html
Just to let you all know I purchased the RSD 54". This is my first hustler and I am not a professional. I have owned an exmark and a husky walk behind both were commercial and worked great, but I have a new much bigger yard and I convinced the wife I needed a zturn. I ordered the 48" and as luck would have it the dealer also ordered the 54" as well. I was at the dealer when they took them out of the crates and we were both surprised to see the differences between the two. I am sorry I don稚 have the exact specs but this is what I remember. The 48 still has a lot of the same residential elements that did not impress me much. The 54 has the same front casters as their commercial mowers, and much bigger rear tires which I wanted for my mowing conditions. They both have the same wielded decks, but what made my decision was the price difference. The 54 was $100 more. Even the owner of the dealership told me not to buy the 48? Like I said I知 sorry for not having the exact differences, but if can go and see them sitting side by side, you would not buy the 48 model. Hope this sheds some light on the new mower.
Just to let you all know I purchased the RSD 54". This is my first hustler and I am not a professional. I have owned an exmark and a husky walk behind both were commercial and worked great, but I have a new much bigger yard and I convinced the wife I needed a zturn. I ordered the 48" and as luck would have it the dealer also ordered the 54" as well. I was at the dealer when they took them out of the crates and we were both surprised to see the differences between the two. I am sorry I don稚 have the exact specs but this is what I remember. The 48 still has a lot of the same residential elements that did not impress me much. The 54 has the same front casters as their commercial mowers, and much bigger rear tires which I wanted for my mowing conditions. They both have the same wielded decks, but what made my decision was the price difference. The 54 was $100 more. Even the owner of the dealership told me not to buy the 48? Like I said I知 sorry for not having the exact differences, but if can go and see them sitting side by side, you would not buy the 48 model. Hope this sheds some light on the new mower.
So how are you liking the mower? I am in the market for my first Z-turn with around 1.4 acres of clear land to mow. I am down to the Raptor SD 54inch at $3,999.00 or the Kubota ZG124E... The Kubota is only a 48inch deck and is $500.00 more with I believe a Briggs and Straton engine and $1000.00 more with a Kohler engine and front lights.... I'd be at a whipping $1500.00 more to get a 54inch deck.... This is why I'm really leaning towards the Raptor SD.... Appearance I believe Kubota wins but I'm obviously not going to buy based only on appearance factors. Someone please chime in.
I just pulled the trigger on a Raptor SD 60". Delivering it in the morning. I cant wait!!!
What spindles are on the RSD?
Aluminum w/ 1.0" shafts and sealed ball bearings with triple protection seals.
I recently bought the Raptor SD and I'm very satisfied with the look of my 3 acres. I thought as rough as my property is that there would be more scalping but it really did a nice job. The only complaint I have is the deck spring broke at only 5 hours. Dealership replaced it with no problem but I apparently did not have the deck belt on properly. I'm guessing maybe a twist and the belt broke 2 hours later. I'm going back to dealership this morning to get a new one. I'm not sure the actual size of this belt as I haven't found a cross reference size to the part #604817. I hope this is not a re-occurring problem with this deck.
Another thing I should note is a comment from my neighbor who has been mowing his 3 acres with a Club Cadet ZTR. He could not tell a difference between the sound when the mower was engaged or disengaged. Smooth running.
I picked up the Raptor SD 54' on Saturday. Used it for the first time several evenings ago and loved it. Did have a few small bolts that needed to be retighted after mowing, but overall, performance was great. Wasn't sure between the Raptor and the SD, but decided on the SD due to the height, comfort of the seat, foot lever to raise the deck and the additional horsepower. Also in the deciding factor was the serviceable transmission.
Overall, after one time mowing, I am happy. I'll update with any new developments going foward.
Mind telling us what bolts to check? I checked over most I think, didn't find anything. Thanks
You can get a toro Titan. Has better warranties better hydro drive systems zt3100. I think 22 inch tires. Completely welded deck. I think the Titan zx 48 you can get under 5000. I'm going to be buying the titan MX 54 inch because I will get it for 5500 and cause they stopped making this model in a 48 inch cut.
My RaptorSD deck spring distended today at 8hrs, belt shredded also. The grass was pretty tall but I finished up the job fine on my Craftsman LT2000 :ashamed:
Now maybe the blades are dull but I'm pretty disappointed it couldn't handle this I was not 20mins into it. Maybe it's not made for this, then again I know the Craftsman is not.
I've uncrated and sold a few Raptor SDs in the last couple days. It's the mower I'd take home or my yard, in 54". The 54" has the 12" wide rear tires that look awesome, 48" has 8". That's fine...but the 20x12" are just mean looking! An earlier post suggested that the 48" has lesser castor forks, but they are the same as the 54"- the 3/8 solid steel ones found on the Fastrak. The difference is the tires, 5 vs 6.5" width. The RSD is a very nice mower, the $1200 uptick from a Raptor is immediately visible...you get a lot more mower. For those mowing near lots of bushes, etc. I recommend the engine guard option. It's $70, not a lot. But the carb, linkages and fuel solenoid wires are on the rear of the mower...pricey to fix. Just an idea.
Home Depot sells the Hustler Raptor line on there web site. I guess this will be good or bad thing for Hustler? Link below.:thumbdown:
Hustler - Zero Turn Riding Mowers - Riding Lawn Mowers - Lawn Mowers - Outdoor Power Equipment - Outdoors*at The Home Depot
Thanks, so is there a benefit to the cast iron spindles on some mowers?
WOW...deck spring at 5 hours. There appear to be a LOT of "early" repairs going on with the new Raptor series(just in this thread alone...and they haven't been out very long). I'm becoming more & more disenchanted and reluctant to recommend them:0(I recently bought the Raptor SD and I'm very satisfied with the look of my 3 acres. I thought as rough as my property is that there would be more scalping but it really did a nice job. The only complaint I have is the deck spring broke at only 5 hours. Dealership replaced it with no problem but I apparently did not have the deck belt on properly. I'm guessing maybe a twist and the belt broke 2 hours later. I'm going back to dealership this morning to get a new one. I'm not sure the actual size of this belt as I haven't found a cross reference size to the part #604817. I hope this is not a re-occurring problem with this deck.
Another thing I should note is a comment from my neighbor who has been mowing his 3 acres with a Club Cadet ZTR. He could not tell a difference between the sound when the mower was engaged or disengaged. Smooth running.
I looked at the RSD and didn't care for it at all. Looks like lite commercial but cheaper built. I bought a ferris is600z. Low grade one but with 3100 or 3400 drive system. Better deck. Suspension. Wide tires. Great mower so far with 10 hours on it. I would spend a little extra to get a better mower
I'm not a big Ferris fan(manufactured by Briggs is a turn-off) but I would buy one before getting a RSD based upon what I've seen thus far posted by new owners having problems with the RSD(and I have always read good user comments about the Ferris).
I'm not a fan of Briggs motors. Love the Kawasaki engines. I'll buy ferris until they only put Briggs engines in them. So far I love my mower. Glad i went with it.
So 3 people on here have issues with their mowers that are being addressed under warranty and recall fix is being implemented, but yet some people would have you believe it's mower Armageddon... Please. In my distributors territory alone there have been 850 RSDs sold this spring. Mountains from molehills.
On a lighter note...I need some basic info. on mower trailers,I will be useing the RSD 54".My questions for you experienced folks..What should I be looking for and where to buy/cost.I do not have a trailer hitch currently.I would not need to use this for any other reason other than hauling mowers or beer!:biggrin:
After 42 years in Information Systems, I am well aware of the statistical implications. Now if all 850 owners in your territory were ALL on this forum and posted their likes/dislikes and/or problems encountered with their new RSD's we could get a much better overall picture of the percentage of incidents and overall quality at delivery of the RSD's. The problem, as I see it, is that Hustler is aware of a proven defect and the dealers are allowing buyers to take delivery of ZTR's that have not had the recall repair performed. There have been many "new model introductions" in recent years, like the Kubota Kommander, the Husqvarna M-ZT 52, etc. and none of those had issues with belts or tension springs breaking upon the first few mowings. Or at least none were reported on this forum(again, we understand that not everyone that buys a new ZTR is on this forum). Users who come here when shopping for a new ZTR are ready to spend several thousand dollars on a machine and by all accounts they should expect it to perform without problems on day one. To me, nothing would be more frustrating than shelling out $4k-$5k for a ZTR and the first time I mow with it something like a belt or tension spring breaking requiring it to be returned to the dealer for a repair. As "minor" as you seem to think that inconvenience is, neither you nor I are the 3 owners that experienced that. To err on the side of caution, I can only ensure that any threads that I respond to where a user is considering buying a RSD that I point out to them price point comparisons of the RSD components to other similarly priced ZTR's as well as reported problems by new owners. It's up to them to weigh out the significance of the reported problems and discuss the recall with the Hustler dealer they are dealing with.
All that being said......I have recommended Hustler ZTR's in the past(I came close to buying a FasTrak SD myself) and have stated many times that "Hustler don't make no junk". One would think that by now all Hustler dealers would have contacted "ALL" of their customers who purchased RSD's and have implemented the recall fix. We are aware of at least 3 dealers who did not:0(
And, like I advised a user who was awaiting delivery, I see absolutely no reason why a dealer would not correct any recall repairs on a RSD and ensure the new owner it had been done. Pre-delivery setup is one of the most important reasons to buy from a dealer versus a big box store. When I picked up my new Gravely, I found "white chalk mark X's" at every point where a bolt was where they had re-torqued every nut on the machine. The sales manager told me that they spend no less than 4 hours going over every machine and checking everything prior to delivery. And it would be VERY disappointing if Hustler has not made the necessary changes to QC on the assembly line to rectify the clutch assembly problem for any new RSD's coming off the assembly line. One would expect no less from a leader in the industry like Hustler. I guess reported problems with new RSD's will reveal that over the next few weeks and months.
So 3 people on here have issues with their mowers that are being addressed under warranty and recall fix is being implemented, but yet some people would have you believe it's mower Armageddon... Please. In my distributors territory alone there have been 850 RSDs sold this spring. Mountains from molehills.
Well, I will defer to those of you with more experience with ZTR's than I have and I may be having a knee jerk reaction to the problem reports. If indeed Hustler has this under their thumb, reports of similar problems should dwindle to nothing over the next several weeks/months. Sooooo, should these problems even be mentioned to other users that are considering a purchase of a RSD or just simply ignored?????I think what MrCo is saying is is true it's mountains from molehills. The things that are happening with the RSD are thing that can happen with any mower manufacturer with a new mower or even an older mower that"s been on the market for a while. The thing with belts or tension springs breaking upon the first few mowing is nothing new and it's not necessarily Hustler with the problem.
My Toro Grandstand has been the greatest mower I've ever run but it broke a belt and a tension spring the third time out, less than 8 hrs and I just took it back to the shop that morning and I was mowing that afternoon and Toro fixed the thing under warranty just like Hustler will fix there's and with the fact there is a recall apparently seems like Hustler is taking care of the problem and probably informed there dealers of the fix. I really think like MRCo said your making mountains out of molehills.
Well, I will defer to those of you with more experience with ZTR's than I have and I may be having a knee jerk reaction to the problem reports. If indeed Hustler has this under their thumb, reports of similar problems should dwindle to nothing over the next several weeks/months. Sooooo, should these problems even be mentioned to other users that are considering a purchase of a RSD or just simply ignored?????
I'm disappointed! Received word from delivery service today(was hopeful they would deliver!),they will not deliver to my area until the 23rd.I'm really bummed as my grass is getting really tall with the rain we've had.I have resorted to running over the highest parts with my car so to make a path.I know we are talking at least two mowings to make it look presentable to my leering neighbors.If my neighbor with the Dixie Chopper offers to cut I will accept at this point.He loves to show off....but I'll swallow my pride at this point.:mur::mur::mur:
Anyone know if theres an iron/tapered bearing spindle that fits the raptor?
May I ask why you would be considering replacing the spindles on a new ZTR????
Hi All
narrowing my search and getting close to pulling the trigger on the Raptor SD.
need the forums opinion & knowledge on three things
1. engine guard price?
2. 48" vs 54". (I'm thinking 48" as I can get it in my 7 x 4 trailer for shifting between home and rental)
and finally the question that will get the most responses
3. why buy the Raptor SD (or not)?
thanks
1. I paid $69 for the guard ($159 for mulching kit) the 54 looks a lot nicer with the rear guard. Just make sure you keep the throttle and choke cable from rubbing.Hi All
narrowing my search and getting close to pulling the trigger on the Raptor SD.
need the forums opinion & knowledge on three things
1. engine guard price?
2. 48" vs 54". (I'm thinking 48" as I can get it in my 7 x 4 trailer for shifting between home and rental)
and finally the question that will get the most responses
3. why buy the Raptor SD (or not)?
thanks
1. I paid $69 for the guard ($159 for mulching kit) the 54 looks a lot nicer with the rear guard. Just make sure you keep the throttle and choke cable from rubbing.
2. The front tires on the 54/60 are impressive and the 12" tires in the rear look nice too. But if all you can fit is the 48 then that seals your decision.
3. Kawasaki engine, serviceable hydrostatic. Nice construction. The sd is generally beefier that the regular raptor so I say that if you could swing the sd, then do. See if you can get them next to each other and you'll see the deck differences (construction and attachment) and the front frame constructions.
I also looked at Kubota but I didn't like the Kohler motor. I did like the 3100 hydros but those are overkill for my application. I didn't want green and I didn't look at the others. Big dog might be an option if you need a longer warranty.
Get the 54". I had a 52" Raptor that I sold before I bought the 54" sd. I hated the small tires on the 52" Raptor along with how the deck was hung.
The 54" for extra $100 comes with bigger tires. I love how it handles on slopes.
48 to 54 SD is quite an upgrade for $100, the tires also are why I did it (bought the SD 54).
The only downside is that the 54 sits so wide front and back that you only have about 2" of deck hanging out the left side for trim work. The 60" brings that trim reach back to a good value. when trimming I am paying as much attention to the rear tire as I am the front tire and deck lip. With better trim reach you can about ignore the rear tire.
Anyone out there have a cross referance number for the drive belts on a 60'' sd ?
Wasn't that problem with the models that were being delivered a couple years ago? I know mine was one that was included, but it was taken care of before delivery. No problems with belts/pulleys etc.
Thanks alot brother!!All good points. I was never able to find any more SD's with Kawasaki engines (they all have Kohler engines on them now and I was not looking for a Kohler model), so I am now shopping again - looking at the Ferris mowers. Yes, if you do regular maintenance on the FR (that is what I had on my previous Hustler) it will run fine, for many years - I never modified my deck to stop the clumping of grass under it, but that sounds like a good idea. You could buy that Hustler rear shield to put over your muffler, but I didn't because I'd rather the heat escape as soon as it can - trapping heat is never a good idea, in my opinion. Hope you enjoy your Raptor SD.