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Does anybody know how honda handles older recall notices (from around 2003)? Maybe honda will send out replacement parts if I call? I just realized have a couple of honda units that I bought used and have no idea whether the recall work was done (replace roto-stop on one and fuel tank on another).

crosstalk said:

Does anybody know how honda handles older recall notices (from around 2003)? Maybe honda will send out replacement parts if I call? I just realized have a couple of honda units that I bought used and have no idea whether the recall work was done (replace roto-stop on one and fuel tank on another).

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I doubt they would send them to you, you would probably have to pick them up, but maybe they would send it.:confused3:

You can contact Honda and they should be able to tell you, if you have the model and serial numbers. For any dealer to be reimbursed for recall work, they must register this info with the company.

crosstalk said:

Does anybody know how honda handles older recall notices (from around 2003)? Maybe honda will send out replacement parts if I call? I just realized have a couple of honda units that I bought used and have no idea whether the recall work was done (replace roto-stop on one and fuel tank on another).

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You should get the serial numbers off the back of the mower decks; they start with "MXXX-1234567" and call Honda Customer Relations at 770-497-6400. They can look up the serial numbers and tell you of the status of any open recalls, as well as help you locate a nearby dealer who can do the repairs. If it's a true safety recall, not just a service bulletin, Honda will pay for the cost of repairs.

Thanks for the info. I called honda customer relations and they told me to take the mower to the dealer for a roto-stop replacement recall. Even though the recall notice is old, Honda will cover the recall work for the life of the unit.

Following up on my earlier post, I wanted to get this fixed before I start using the mower in the spring. I called Honda and give the frame serial number. They told me the recall had not been performed on this unit (MAAA-1017686) and it is part of service bulletin #65.

I called the Honda dealer. They mentioned that I should check the roto-stop return spring to see if it has a rubber/plastic insert inside the spring coil. The return spring problem seems like a different recall to me (maybe on the 217). Does anybody know what part should be replaced as part of bulletin #65. I just want to make sure I get it right.

crosstalk said:

Following up on my earlier post, I wanted to get this fixed before I start using the mower in the spring. I called Honda and give the frame serial number. They told me the recall had not been performed on this unit (MAAA-1017686) and it is part of service bulletin #65.

I called the Honda dealer. They mentioned that I should check the roto-stop return spring to see if it has a rubber/plastic insert inside the spring coil. The return spring problem seems like a different recall to me (maybe on the 217). Does anybody know what part should be replaced as part of bulletin #65. I just want to make sure I get it right.

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Your mower is part of the recall for Service Bulletin #65, "Roto-Stop Brake Plate Failure" Click on the three images below to see details:

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The brake plate can break if the mower's blade strike an object with enough force to bend the crankshaft. Vibrations created by a bent crankshaft can fatigue the brake plate, which may not stop the blades from spinning when the blade control lever is released. DO NOT USE THE MOWER UNTIL THIS HAS BEEN REPAIRED. The ball control plate assembly must be replaced.

Honda will cover the cost of the repairs, you just need to deliver and pick-up the mower to/from the dealer.

Thanks, Robert, for the details. I will take it over to the honda dealer soon. When I called them, they were surprised I was still using this old of a mower!

crosstalk said:

When I called them, they were surprised I was still using this old of a mower!

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I have a Honda HRR216TDA that was bought in 2006, and it is still performing like Day 1! :thumbsup:

crosstalk said:

Thanks, Robert, for the details. I will take it over to the honda dealer soon. When I called them, they were surprised I was still using this old of a mower!

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That old?! My gosh, as well as Hondas are made, he shouldn't be surprised at all! When you go to your dealer, tell them there's a guy still using his HR214 mower made back in the 80s, and loves it.

I got the recall work done a couple of months ago and have been using the mower so far this season. Today a roto-stop problem cropped up. It seemed like the blade was not fully engaging and smelled like something was burning. I adjusted the free play in the cable and noticed the brake plate is not returning to the completely open position when the tension is released on the cable. I haven't taken it apart yet, but can't see any reason why it is binding. The return spring seems to be in place. I also found some metal shavings near the bbc mechanism, so that's not good. Any ideas what happened and where to start fixing this? I think I have the blade clutch free play adjusted but it seems to have more free play than it should because the plate isn't returning.

bwdbrn1 said:

That old?! My gosh, as well as Hondas are made, he shouldn't be surprised at all! When you go to your dealer, tell them there's a guy still using his HR214 mower made back in the 80s, and loves it.

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I have 2 lawn boys 8237 self-propel from 1978 that i am still using.

crosstalk said:

I got the recall work done a couple of months ago and have been using the mower so far this season. Today a roto-stop problem cropped up. It seemed like the blade was not fully engaging and smelled like something was burning. I adjusted the free play in the cable and noticed the brake plate is not returning to the completely open position when the tension is released on the cable. I haven't taken it apart yet, but can't see any reason why it is binding. The return spring seems to be in place. I also found some metal shavings near the bbc mechanism, so that's not good. Any ideas what happened and where to start fixing this? I think I have the blade clutch free play adjusted but it seems to have more free play than it should because the plate isn't returning.

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I removed the rear scroll to find the roto-stop cable had been contacting the transmission pulley. The outer sheath was destroyed. Not sure if the dealer did this when removing the end of the cable to replace the brake plate for the recall. At any rate, the cable isn't expensive so I will replace it. Is the roto-stop cable supposed to be attached somewhere to prevent it from rubbing the transmission? I seem to remember a tie or something to the drive change cable.

I am still not sure if the brake plate return spring is supposed to be returning the brake plate to the full open position without tension on the roto-stop cable.

Also the parts breakdown isn't too clear how the roto-stop cable is supposed to be attached to the handle. To remove it, I just had to hold the handle forward and remove a cotter pin, but this looks backwards according to the parts diagram.

Damaged cable (is something supposed to connect to that clip?):


Roto-stop cable connection point on handle:

im using a Honda HR 215 i didnt buy it new i have no idea how old it is but it runs like new and has shaft drive not a belt i wish i knew how old it is