Proper dual blade installation on this Honda mower, and a few other questions.

[exotion]

Thank you. Do you have a picture or diagram of that HRR screw area ?

Not sure if my has a micro cut or quadrant cut. How does one distinguish and are both these blade types acceptable on my mower model ?

The micro cut are the offset blades and quadracut are the stacked blades swing by home depot pick up a box 30$ says they are for the hrx but I've used them for a long time no issues. There is only one piece of sheet metal like mentioned before tip the mower down carb up. Get leather gloves manually spin the blades see if it touches anything. Wiggle the sheet metal see if it moves at a if so there will be a empty screw hole

 

[robert@honda]

Thank you. Do you have a picture or diagram of that HRR screw area ?

Not sure if my has a micro cut or quadrant cut. How does one distinguish and are both these blade types acceptable on my mower model ?

Your mower (HRR2167VKA) uses QuadraCut blades; MicroCut blades are similar, but not approved by Honda for use on your mower. Honda recommends using only the correct blades for your mower, period.

Be sure to use a torque wrench when tightening blade bolts; they are structurally part of the mower, and too tight will strain parts, too loose, and, well, we don't want too loose either.

The part numbers are:
Upper Blade 72531-VE2-020
Lower Blade 72511-VE1-020

Bolts are 90105-960-710 (need 2)
Special Washers are 90502-VG3-000 (need 2)

By using the correct blades, you don't have to worry about impact, rubbing or fit. This assumes you do not have any damage to the deck that would cause interference.

Google any part number to find a Honda Dealer selling it online, or use this link to find a Honda Dealer in your area: Find A Honda Dealer

 

[lawn mower fanatic]

Check out post #9 in the following thread to see a difference w/ pictures between the 2 blades.

http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/general-mower-discussion/16982-snapper-ninja-vs-honda-twin-blade.html

 

[MowerMark]

Thank you, Robert.

Your mower (HRR2167VKA) uses QuadraCut blades; MicroCut blades are similar, but not approved by Honda for use on your mower. Honda recommends using only the correct blades for your mower, period.

Be sure to use a torque wrench when tightening blade bolts; they are structurally part of the mower, and too tight will strain parts, too loose, and, well, we don't want too loose either.

The part numbers are:
Upper Blade 72531-VE2-020
Lower Blade 72511-VE1-020

Bolts are 90105-960-710 (need 2)
Special Washers are 90502-VG3-000 (need 2)

By using the correct blades, you don't have to worry about impact, rubbing or fit. This assumes you do not have any damage to the deck that would cause interference.

Google any part number to find a Honda Dealer selling it online, or use this link to find a Honda Dealer in your area: Find A Honda Dealer

Thank you, Robert.


1. Why doesn't Honda approve of the MicroCut blades ?

2. Unanswered from a prior post:

a) The Honda replacement blades from Home Depot seemed quite dull so I had them "professionally" sharpened before use. Was this not advisable ?

b) My model number is HRR2167VKA and serial MZCG-822xxxx. Honda's website was confusing because that "7" was missing from the model number: Honda Lawn Mowers: HRR216VKA, HRR216K8VKA

Why is the "7" there ?

Is this the wrong link for my mower ?

3. Please suggest to Honda that Honda put the blade pictorials in the owner's manuals.

 

[exotion]

Thank you, Robert.

1. Why doesn't Honda approve of the MicroCut blades ?

2. Unanswered from a prior post:

a) The Honda replacement blades from Home Depot seemed quite dull so I had them "professionally" sharpened before use. Was this not advisable ?

b) My model number is HRR2167VKA and serial MZCG-822xxxx. Honda's website was confusing because that "7" was missing from the model number: Honda Lawn Mowers: HRR216VKA, HRR216K8VKA

Why is the "7" there ?

Is this the wrong link for my mower ?

3. Please suggest to Honda that Honda put the blade pictorials in the owner's manuals.

They don't approve because they want the hrr to be more innefficent than the hrx ... Rly they work fine the 7 is the version of the mower when you get new blades you can use them out of the box I grind the coating off personally just keep the stock angle

The micro cut blades on my hrr made such a huge difference in both mulching (the quadracut blades would leave clippings) and bagging and just quality of cut.

 

[lawn mower fanatic]

Re: Thank you, Robert.

Thank you, Robert.


1. Why doesn't Honda approve of the MicroCut blades ?

2. Unanswered from a prior post:

a) The Honda replacement blades from Home Depot seemed quite dull so I had them "professionally" sharpened before use. Was this not advisable ?

b) My model number is HRR2167VKA and serial MZCG-822xxxx. Honda's website was confusing because that "7" was missing from the model number: Honda Lawn Mowers: HRR216VKA, HRR216K8VKA

Why is the "7" there ?

Is this the wrong link for my mower ?

3. Please suggest to Honda that Honda put the blade pictorials in the owner's manuals.

2a) The blades might wear down quicker...the way you buy them is just fine.

2b) The number after the '216' is the version, it is common for that number to be missing on websites.

I don't know if that's the mobile version of the Honda website, but when I look at it, it looks like this: Honda Lawn Mowers: HRR216VKA, HRR216K8VKA

 

[MowerMark]

Thank you. What could go wrong by using the MicroCut blades ? If they cut better and cleaner than the QuadraCut, why not use them ? May I get the MicroCuts from Home Depot or Orchard Supply Hardware ?

 

[MowerMark]

Re: Thank you, Robert.

Thank you, Mod. Nice name = LawnKing.

 

[exotion]

Not sure what could go wrong there is probably some reason. Bottom line is I've used them for a long time and will continue to use them. And I get mine from home depot because there is not a Honda dealer close to me

 

[robert@honda]

Re: Thank you, Robert.

1. Why doesn't Honda approve of the MicroCut blades ?

Your specific mower was never tested with MicroCut blades, so the engineers did not approve them for use with your exact mower. FYI, later versions of the HRR models (with a "9" in the model name) were updated to use the MicroCut blades. Unofficially, they would probably work just fine with your older HRR model, but again, not technically approved by Honda.

The Honda replacement blades from Home Depot seemed quite dull so I had them "professionally" sharpened before use. Was this not advisable ?

Direct from Honda, the blades meet all the production specs and quality control checks. While a pro could easily make them "more sharp" that won't necessarily improve cut or finish performance. Remember, too sharp and the blades will get dull very fast. Too dull and cut quality will suffer. The factory edge is the best compromise between quality and sharpening interval.

b) My model number is HRR2167VKA and serial MZCG-822xxxx. Honda's website was confusing because that "7" was missing from the model number: Honda Lawn Mowers: HRR216VKA, HRR216K8VKA
Why is the "7" there ?

Honda mowers do not have model years, but use a code called a K-number to designate running changes. Your mower is a "K7" and is currently at the "K9" version. Honda does not always include the K-number in all ad, print, and web names. The K-number is more for Honda internal use, and you should use the frame serial number to locate any parts, service, documents, etc. for your exact model.

Is this the wrong link for my mower ?

Should be correct, if I'm reading your serial number right. Double-check and you'll see a link that has a manual for your serial number.

3. Please suggest to Honda that Honda put the blade pictorials in the owner's manuals.

There is a full blade remove / install procedure with illustrations in every Honda mower manual. Shop manuals have more details, but the basic procedure is always there.