No more income taxes for 4 years

[PTmowerMech]

The problem is we can't go cold turkey on spending.

Wrong !!!!!

 

[StarTech]

Then try it yourself quit your current job with no replacement and see if your debits simply goes away. Normally they wont go away. Oh they might when they take all your possessions and put you out on the street or worst in jail. You will still have debits to pay, but you want have anything for new spending; that is if you have enough in savings.

I have been nearly there myself except I was lucky enough to have nearly all my debits paid when I got laid off and couldn't find a replacement job. The only thing I lost was the apartment that I had leased. I had to move back in with my mother.

 

[Honest Abe]

Wrong !!!!!

that depends largely on who you're married to, my wife is more frugal than me so no problem at all ....

 

[PTmowerMech]

that depends largely on who you're married to, my wife is more frugal than me so no problem at all ....

He's talking about government spending. They could go cold turkey on a LOT of their spending.

 

[PTmowerMech]

Then try it yourself quit your current job with no replacement and see if your debits simply goes away. Normally they wont go away. Oh they might when they take all your possessions and put you out on the street or worst in jail. You will still have debits to pay, but you want have anything for new spending; that is if you have enough in savings.

I have been nearly there myself except I was lucky enough to have nearly all my debits paid when I got laid off and couldn't find a replacement job. The only thing I lost was the apartment that I had leased. I had to move back in with my mother.

That has nothing to do with the government. Whether or not you can find a job quickly has nothing to do with politics. The government doesn't create jobs. Consumers do.

 

[StarTech]

That has nothing to do with the government. Whether or not you can find a job quickly has nothing to do with politics. The government doesn't create jobs. Consumers do.

But they can destroy them.

I had two a fold problem back in the 2000's. I had worked 16 yrs repairing equipment, basic ran the local service offices by myself. It was either I had too much experience or didn't a ton certification papers. These certification papers are a joke as you are basically paying someone to make out like they are training you even although you know more than they do due to experience.

After two years of trying I finally went into business and did exactly what they were afraid of me doing I started taking away their clients as I knew how they were cheating the customers. When the market changed I change over to the current repair field. That was 16 yrs ago and now some the current parts sources are now trying to hire me but I won't do it because the legal documents they want me to sign basically makes me into their slave. I willing to work for the other guy as it removes a lot the headaches of running your own business but I am not going to be a slave to them.

Now this has over the course of the years since '79. The company I ended up quitting over their ridiculous minute to minute work logging as if wasn't the bunk of the work for only $6.25/hr. (8yrs) The straw broke on the I had one my bad migraines and had a touch of the flu bug. It had took me ten minutes to use the bathroom. They pissed me off by asking what took so long and I told them everything graphic details. Three weeks later I walked after I hired into the second for $9.50 as preventative maintenance tech. I did know I was walking into a nightmare of a major merger at the time. The second company just went under after 8 yrs but I was at $16.50/hr went they laid me off. If it wasn't trying to kill old durable equipment after 5 yrs of being sold they would have still been in business.

So I took a pay cut to work back at the first company at $9.50/hr. The management want me to sign a anti compete contract but never produce one for my lawyer to go over. After getting them out their service bind they fired me. At that point I told them off and said at the current you doing things you be out business in a year. Well they made only six months.

Then I did scrap metal for ten years and made darn good money at it until the big corporate downsizing occur in the late 2000's. My competitors start getting into fist fights over the scrapes I left behind. It was time to move on to something else. Then my brother got laid off so he decide to go into business that he no idea of how to do. So I became the office manager doing the purchases of parts, the books, and trained him on the repairs.

After losing over $6000 the first year because he would not stop buying expensive unnecessary tools he went under leaving me holding the bag as their were customers he took under front payments from that he had not completed the work. So I legally on the hook for the repairs so I completed those out of my own pocket. Several of those got pissed when they found out that I done the work instead of my brother. One even said that I had no idea of how to do the repairs. I looked him straight in the face and said who do you think trained him.

My brother went around telling everyone he had quit the business and then when I kept it going started telling everyone I stole his business. I looked at him and said if you want it back pay me for current part inventory and you can have it back but I would stay completely out of it this time around. He realized that there was no way he was going to be able to do what I was doing for him by himself. That was back in 2009 and I been going strong every since until this last year when the IRS screwed up my account and refused to straighten it out. If they were not going to pay the refunds, I wasn't going to make a profit that they could tax. And I didn't according to the books.

This year as usual is starting off in a hole but this time the government is interfering with it too. Along with one major OEM dragging their feet on parts delivery. I seriously considered just dropping the whole Husqvarna line of repairs. Just can't wait on the parts for 2-4 months. As long after market parts are available I keep the customers up and running but that not going to last as some items are OEM only. On top the two main distributors are screwing up too which don't help at all.

If the weather straightens out I got three major repairs to get out then that probably be the end of the work. Two of them are nearly done just got the deck work to get done. Just can't keep fighting the jerks. I just turn one my hobbies into a cash only business where no one can trace things.

 

[Honest Abe]

He's talking about government spending. They could go cold turkey on a LOT of their spending.

could have fooled me, there have been times when she's just helped herself to my pocket money, just like our government does . . . . .

 

[StarTech]

could have fooled me, there have been times when she's just helped herself to my pocket money, just like our government does . . . . .

Sorta like Jane on the Jetson's when George is handing her some money instead she takes his wallet.

Even those so called hand outs to poor does support a lot more most even consider to think about, thus brings in more taxes; both the Federal and Local tax guys.

Take someone get food assistance. $180 a month does not go a long way; unless, you are tight and cut out a lot things in the current food market. Say give up on the sugar, condiments, and most meats and then they can survive as long you buy a lot of the reduce priced foods. But that $180 supports the local stores and their employees which in turn supports their vendor and their vendors work forces. All of which pay income taxes and they also support the local businesses in their areas. It is the old tickle down economics.

Right now what happening is all support is getting cutoff so anybody including the government is taking a hit on income. It becomes a vicious cycle of cuts and lack of income.

Some people can con their supporters into giving them all of money. I got couple families that were big Republican supports that gave so much that they can't even afford to fix their roofs. Just a bunch of tires holding the tin roofs down; they can't even afford the nails. And even their food assistance has been cut off now so they are now knocking the local doors begging for food. I wonder if they think they now getting rich.

Charity starts at home first in my opinion; I have very little to spare myself and I need for my own home repairs. Even those I have be very tight on spending for materials. I am lucky enough to know how to do my own repairs. $300 per month only went so far but I stretched old George until you could see thru him.

There is going to be a lot more layoffs than just the main Federal workforce and it just might be your neighbors in the next year or two. Just can't keep doing this and expect us small businesses to keep going. Being the procurement officer here I can stretch old Washing pretty thin and still keep the business going for a while but we start losing too much money then the lights get turned off and everybody goes home without a paycheck.

A lot of the small businesses which really not that small in my opinion depends the SBA loans to get by for new hires and materials. We then pay these loans back with our profits. But the SBA is shutting down just like all the other places like FAA laying off all the recent hires that they spent a lot of money training or the Nuclear security work force. They did this so haphazardly that they can't even contact them to recall them. Tons of training and experience down the sewer. Lots of money wasted with no returns.

But I reckon that is okay if we make the government none functional with the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians taking over. In moments of weakness the enemy will attack.

Not trying to be political just stating facts.

 

[Honest Abe]

Sorta like Jane on the Jetson's when George is handing her some money instead she takes his wallet.

Even those so called hand outs to poor does support a lot more most even consider to think about, thus brings in more taxes; both the Federal and Local tax guys.

Take someone get food assistance. $180 a month does not go a long way; unless, you are tight and cut out a lot things in the current food market. Say give up on the sugar, condiments, and most meats and then they can survive as long you buy a lot of the reduce priced foods. But that $180 supports the local stores and their employees which in turn supports their vendor and their vendors work forces. All of which pay income taxes and they also support the local businesses in their areas. It is the old tickle down economics.

Right now what happening is all support is getting cutoff so anybody including the government is taking a hit on income. It becomes a vicious cycle of cuts and lack of income.

Some people can con their supporters into giving them all of money. I got couple families that were big Republican supports that gave so much that they can't even afford to fix their roofs. Just a bunch of tires holding the tin roofs down; they can't even afford the nails. And even their food assistance has been cut off now so they are now knocking the local doors begging for food. I wonder if they think they now getting rich.

Charity starts at home first in my opinion; I have very little to spare myself and I need for my own home repairs. Even those I have be very tight on spending for materials. I am lucky enough to know how to do my own repairs. $300 per month only went so far but I stretched old George until you could see thru him.

There is going to be a lot more layoffs than just the main Federal workforce and it just might be your neighbors in the next year or two. Just can't keep doing this and expect us small businesses to keep going. Being the procurement officer here I can stretch old Washing pretty thin and still keep the business going for a while but we start losing too much money then the lights get turned off and everybody goes home without a paycheck.

A lot of the small businesses which really not that small in my opinion depends the SBA loans to get by for new hires and materials. We then pay these loans back with our profits. But the SBA is shutting down just like all the other places like FAA laying off all the recent hires that they spent a lot of money training or the Nuclear security work force. They did this so haphazardly that they can't even contact them to recall them. Tons of training and experience down the sewer. Lots of money wasted with no returns.

But I reckon that is okay if we make the government none functional with the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians taking over. In moments of weakness the enemy will attack.

Not trying to be political just stating facts.

all my life I've heard said time and time after time, "Someone" should do something!". Well, that time and someone are here. We the People, are the only ones truly too blame. The power of the vote and protest are ours to do with as we please .... jmo

 

[StarTech]

Oh well I just gave 10 employees a two week notice of their termination. I had it the problems introduced this year. They all can find new jobs. Too bad they didn't enough time invested to draw their unemployment. Not planning on re-hiring them later. The boss, I, and one other can handle to work load from now on. We did it before and we can do it again, we just didn't like working 60 hrs a piece each week.