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Need a little help with starting issue

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Gt300023kohler

Gt300023kohler

I have a 23hp Kohler on a craftsman gt3000. I have power to the blue trigger wire at solenoid at all times with key on. Has anyone else had this problem?


#2

StarTech

StarTech

Need the model number from the serial number tag to look up the correct wiring schematic.


#3

Gt300023kohler

Gt300023kohler

It is 917.275013


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bertsmobile1

That is wrong
If it has just happened the you probably have a wiring fault or a faulty key switch.
There should only be power to the blue wire when the key is in the S position then only when the PTO is off & the brake is on.


#5

Gt300023kohler

Gt300023kohler

Not sure put a new switch still there even cut blue wire by switch still have same prob.


#6

Gt300023kohler

Gt300023kohler

The tractor has been sitting a few yrs i found out


#7

Gt300023kohler

Gt300023kohler

StarTech said:
Need the model number from the serial number tag to look up the correct wiring schematic.
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917.275013


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geelee

battery hooked up backwards?


#9

Gt300023kohler

Gt300023kohler

geelee said:
battery hooked up backwards?
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No not that


#10

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bertsmobile1

Interesting.
I was waiting to see if Star would post a wiring diagram for your mower.
According to the one I have found it shows a white wire on the remote solenoid.\If yours has a Kohler it would have a piggy back solenoid.
So this is very confusing and wll become even more confusing now that you have double posted your problem.
I tend to ignore people who do this because I can not be bothered going backwards & forwards between 2 different threads.
If the blue wire is always powered when the key is on then it should not be on the solenoid, it should be connected to the alternator or the fuel solenoid
The only wiring diagram shows a WHITE wire connected to the solenoid.
Originally It seemed to be wired correctly because Kohler usually use a blue wire to trigger the starting solenoid.
\The start circuit goes B > S ( key switch ) C > G ( PTO switch ) through the brake switch white wire to white wire then down to the solenoid.

So you are going to have to trace the mystery wire backwards to see where it goes to.
I rather think it will be the A1 or A 2 terminals on the key switch.


#11

Gt300023kohler

Gt300023kohler

bertsmobile1 said:
Interesting.
I was waiting to see if Star would post a wiring diagram for your mower.
According to the one I have found it shows a white wire on the remote solenoid.\If yours has a Kohler it would have a piggy back solenoid.
So this is very confusing and wll become even more confusing now that you have double posted your problem.
I tend to ignore people who do this because I can not be bothered going backwards & forwards between 2 different threads.
If the blue wire is always powered when the key is on then it should not be on the solenoid, it should be connected to the alternator or the fuel solenoid
The only wiring diagram shows a WHITE wire connected to the solenoid.
Originally It seemed to be wired correctly because Kohler usually use a blue wire to trigger the starting solenoid.
\The start circuit goes B > S ( key switch ) C > G ( PTO switch ) through the brake switch white wire to white wire then down to the solenoid.

So you are going to have to trace the mystery wire backwards to see where it goes to.
I rather think it will be the A1 or A 2 terminals on the key switch.
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bertsmobile1 said:
Interesting.
I was waiting to see if Star would post a wiring diagram for your mower.
According to the one I have found it shows a white wire on the remote solenoid.\If yours has a Kohler it would have a piggy back solenoid.
So this is very confusing and wll become even more confusing now that you have double posted your problem.
I tend to ignore people who do this because I can not be bothered going backwards & forwards between 2 different threads.
If the blue wire is always powered when the key is on then it should not be on the solenoid, it should be connected to the alternator or the fuel solenoid
The only wiring diagram shows a WHITE wire connected to the solenoid.
Originally It seemed to be wired correctly because Kohler usually use a blue wire to trigger the starting solenoid.
\The start circuit goes B > S ( key switch ) C > G ( PTO switch ) through the brake switch white wire to white wire then down to the solenoid.

So you are going to have to trace the mystery wire backwards to see where it goes to.
I rather think it will be the A1 or A 2 terminals on the key switch.
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Sorry for the double post im new to this i tried to delete the other one but couldn't figure out how


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geelee

on the older scags kohler added a diode in their wire harness because the key switch didnt send power to the fuel shutoff during the crank cycle. so they taped off of the solenoid wire. if the diode shorted it would cause that problem.


#13

Gt300023kohler

Gt300023kohler

Hear are a couple of pic of the harness and both ends of the plug. So the blue wire goes from the switch to starter cylinoid.


#14

Gt300023kohler

Gt300023kohler

I cant load pic keeps saying file too large with one photo


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bertsmobile1

Gt300023kohler said:
I cant load pic keeps saying file too large with one photo
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Phone cameras store the data in RAW format and that makes for a huge file
Load the photo into your computer then export / save a copy in JPG format.
I usually resize to 12" and set the resolution to 72 dpi .


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