Hi. My blades will not disengage. The blade brake pads are pretty worn. From MTD, can only purchase the whole brake pad assemblies. Only the pads are worn. These are only rivited to the assembly. Has anybody found a source for these pads?
#2
StarTech
Also be aware that some these are riveted in the wrong position for some decks at that what I ran into several years ago. So fustrating having to rework a new part.
Thanks for the reply. You indicated that you managed to get some, although the rivit holes were in the wrong place. Can you tell me where you acquired the pads? I can fix the holes, I need the pads. Thanks
#4
Fish
Sounds like you have a different problem. When you disengage the deck, the blades should stop. The blades should slow down and eventually stop even if you had no brake pads.
Thanks for the reply. You indicated that you managed to get some, although the rivit holes were in the wrong place. Can you tell me where you acquired the pads? I can fix the holes, I need the pads. Thanks
FWIW :-
When I bought the service run I inherited a couple of lengths of tractor external brake band material
I have been cutting lumps off of it for 8 years to repair blade brake pads
Works a treat
Other than that any shop that relines clutch & brake shoes should be able to replace the friction material but because of asbestos laws it will not be cheap
You can get a normal disc brake pad & grind the steel backing off
Lots of alternativesNone of the materials will be exactly right but it is only a blade brake
#7
StarTech
Yes brake lining material is available but it is not cheap a 3/4 thick piece that is 7-1/2 x 7-1/2 is 70 usd at McMasters.
Only needs to be 1/4" thick for a spindle brake
Now that I am thinking, you could just grab the cheapest car disc brake pad an cut the whole thing in 1/2 the bolt the entire pad to the mower
You could probably get away with a block of hardwood now I think of it
HArdwood is what used to be used on the dummy rim brakes used on motorcycles till the 30's.
A pair fo pushbike brake blocks would probably work as well and perhaps even a push bike disc brake pad which from memory mount with a single bolt
#9
StarTech
Bert these MTD uses the pulley v groove for braking so you would need thicker material if you going to match the profile.
This is what the OP and I are dealing with. Which according to the image is only 1/2" thick
But I prefer starting with the 3/4" stock.
#10
Fish
Sounds like it would be much easier and better to just buy the part from MTD.
Yes it is. I only did a few before getting in with distributor. The one shown is listed at 28.38 . I don't have a need to waste my time ordering, cutting to length an width, beveling, drilling holes with countersinks, riveting, and then installing the assembly but of course I run a shop where I can be repairing other machine instead spending a lot of time fabricating parts.
Can't say I have come across the ones you are talking about.
The only ones I have dealt with are the 1/4" thick pads that press on a plate on the top of the pulley or the 1/4" thick ones on the tension arm with a slave brake hooked up to it that press on the edge of the pulleys.
Probably too new for my clientelle .
As for messing around fabricating, MTD prices down here are silly plus the dealers only get a free delivery once a month and all others get a $ 75 fee added to them + a special pick fee if it is a single part order .
Too many people trying to make too much money from too small a turn over
#13
StarTech
Yes I have seen those MTDs where you raise the deck to loosen the deck drive belt and to apply the brakes. Also got those side of the pulley brakes on most the Husqvarna/AYP mowers. Those I have considered doing just the brake lining on.
Yes even here some of the distributors can have ridiculous prices too. MTD distributors raised their prices on me but expect me to keep the same prices as I sale items to the customer. Some items the price difference is just pennies. If wasn't for me buying at a volume where I get free shipping I would have raise my prices above the suggested retail prices just to break even. At Husqvarna still has a decent price structure.
Here I got one company that does free shipping at $200 but charge full UPS retail rates below that. Example was one order that $190 where they hit me for $46. It ate up all the profit and then some. The same company is dragging their feet on parts delivery now blaming it on Covid 19. They claim they are so overworked by orders that they can't keep up so I am giving them a six month break on my part; otherwords, I am not ordering from them until they get their act together. I have order 1/10th of what I ordered last year from them as I have reroute a lot of my orders to other vendors that can actually deliver on time. This is actually good as I just save $97 on an after market PTO that they have listed for sale.
I am kind lucky to have two MTD distributors which I have learned to price check both before ordering. Recently I needed a spindle assembly so I just order from the closest one. Big mistake as the other had them for $20 less a piece so when I ordered my stock I ordered them from the other vendor and save $60. I do see how shipping can be a problem as I have sent one item to down under and the shipping was ridiculous but it was one those NLA items that I still had a NOS one on hand. Right now I would not ship via the USPS as they just keep losing my packages. Three of them in the last two months.
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Fish the problem is the Canadian costs. If the op wants to buy the material I would suggest that he wears a good mask while cutting the brake materials. The PN you actually cost me $24.05 each from my distrubutor so its cost to me is reasonable vs my labor rate..
So this is where some one starts to send PMs and organizes to post some over the border
#18
StarTech
Oh I had a shocker trying to send a defective USC back Canada a a few years ago. I went to ship it back to Canada when US Office wanted over $90 one way to send it. As Bert suggests on sending emails works as I contacted the vendor on the Canadian side and they sent me round trip label for $35. I could brought another unit for what the USPS wanted to send it round trip. It is same when I try to ship anything here even within the US borders. The local USPS tries to eat me alive on charges yet I have vendors shipping for little. Because the local charges I simply gave up shipping anything out.
Then of course there is the nightmare of trying to get anything delivered by USPS too. I currently got a package currently stuck in the Boca Raton, FL post office since June 4. Package received, awaiting acceptance status on the tracking. What worst is I already had three packages lost by the USPS this year. Since I depend on my deliveries I refuse to them unless there is no other option.
I also know a couple members that have their own US post box where they ship part to it and just drive across the border to pick them up but the OP may to far out to do this.
#19
StarTech
I ran across a pic of the misalignment of the brake pads I mention earlier that MTD would not correct in my files, dated 05/17/2017. The old brake assy left and the new right. The new brake assy was mounted about a 1/4" lower the previous part. As you see part of the brake assembly was broken off. I had to rework the assembly for it to fit properly.
Is this it?
